Diadora Van Basten Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I think Callum Murray was a Hearts fan but has now retired. I just wondered if there were any other SFA refs who support Hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Like the rest of Scotland, I'd imagine 90% of refs 'support' either of the arse cheeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Like the rest of Scotland, I'd imagine 90% of refs 'support' either of the arse cheeks.Surely there must be some refs from the East Coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabber Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 It won't happen but I would find it interesting to know which city their from and their occupations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 One of the linesman for tomorrow is a JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I think Callum Murray was a Hearts fan but has now retired. I just wondered if there were any other SFA refs who support Hearts? Brian Colvin is a Hearts fan but I think he gave up the officiating a couple of years ago. He had a shocker refereeing one of our games a few years back. I think it may have been away to St Johnstone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Not sure who Crawford Allan supports but he lives just round the corner from me in Broomhall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Like the rest of Scotland, I'd imagine 90% of refs 'support' either of the arse cheeks. This. Refs are football fans. Most football fans in Scotland support the old firm. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out that chances are most support the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 This. Refs are football fans. Most football fans in Scotland support the old firm. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out that chances are most support the OF.Dallas and Beaton are supposed to support Rangers. Collum supposed to be Celtic. Madden looks like a Rangers fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zibi Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Willie Collum Celtic diehard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Not sure who Crawford Allan supports but he lives just round the corner from me in Broomhall. He supports Aberdeen but not fanatically. His wife is a Hearts fan. He's a good guy, Crawford and a fair ref; not overly fussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I think Callum Murray was a Hearts fan but has now retired. I just wondered if there were any other SFA refs who support Hearts? CM is a Hearts fan. Worked beside his brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) I hated Callum Murray reffing Hearts games as he really had a tendency to over compensate for that fact. The first time I saw him was at Fir Park and he gave a penalty right in front of us when Scott McDonald nearly tore Andy Webster's shorts off and threw himself to the ground. Shortly after that he got an Edinburgh derby and "missed" Bamba (?) climbing all over Nade in the box at a long throw in a 0-0 draw. It didn't get any better and I can't remember him having a good game involving us. Dougie fi Porty was the worst, though. Probably gave a potentially game changing decision against Hearts EVERY time we had him. Edited December 29, 2016 by Shaggy2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) He supports Aberdeen but not fanatically. His wife is a Hearts fan. He's a good guy, Crawford and a fair ref; not overly fussy. hes been in the game a long time. He was reffing under 21 football when I played circa 1992,93...... From what I remember he was quite a quiet ref, unassuming compared to others. Always felt for him when he used to get pelters . But he must have strong character to have made it Edited December 29, 2016 by Debut 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Demolition Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Always thought Stuart Dougall was a decent ref. Pretty sure he was the ref for a few pumpings in the 05/06 season- mainly over Hibs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The ref for the OF game this weekend is believed to be a Sevco supporter and indeed his brother Brian was on Rangers' and Motherwell's books. Surely that's a game that needs a totally neutral appointment eg Crawford Allan - just shows how the West reffing clique rule the roost and to hell with fairness and integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) The ref for the OF game this weekend is believed to be a Sevco supporter and indeed his brother Brian was on Rangers' and Motherwell's books. Surely that's a game that needs a totally neutral appointment eg Crawford Allan - just shows how the West reffing clique rule the roost and to hell with fairness and integrity. Naw chance of a 'neutral' referee for Glasgow arse-cheek game as they don't respect or trust impartial referees. They would rather have someone from 'the other side' than have someone referee the game properly. This is because those outside the arse-cheek bubble don't understand what it's all about - and it's not football but religious based. Edited December 29, 2016 by Brave Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Refs favour whichever club their SFA/SPFL peers tell me their pay cheques depend on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgaro Gomis Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) hes been in the game a long time. He was reffing under 21 football when I played circa 1992,93...... From what I remember he was quite a quiet ref, unassuming compared to others. Always felt for him when he used to get pelters . But he must have strong character to have made it Not that it's all that relevant, but you'd imagine he loves it too. As his daughter is training to be a referee, so he must have had an input in that decision for her. Edited December 29, 2016 by Morgaro Gomis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumpson Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 An Aberdeen supporting mate of mine commented on a social media thread the other day which was full of sheep saying they might as well just give us the points now because of Gollum reffing. Made me laugh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Even if the SFA made it mandatory (as in England) for referees to reveal the club they support our arsehole cheating gobshites would lie and give it the Chic Dung routine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Always thought Stuart Dougall was a decent ref. Pretty sure he was the ref for a few pumpings in the 05/06 season- mainly over Hibs! He gave up early due to serious illness if I remember correctly. His pal was my mates old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I remember last season, in the English premier league, the appointed ref for one of Leicester's final matches requested to have his match swapped as he was a Leicester fan and didn't want anything he done to be misconstrued. I remember Jim Traynor, mans an arse as we all know, telling me and my father at a family party how the "system" used to work. Celtic/Rangers would take certain refs, compliance officers, heads of the referees etc to European matches as part of the clubs detail. Invite them to analysis the match and use the whole experience as a learning exercise and bring some of the good stuff you see to the Scottish game. All very sensible stuff and above board. Jim said both the old firm sides used to do this with journalists as well. Give them a freebie on the clubs chartered flights etc and give them access to the players and coaching staff as a "you rub my back, I will rub yours" exercise. We have David Murray to thank for bringing that aspect to the game. Traynor then went on to tell us that they'd then cut certain refs and or associates etc as and when they felt they'd been wronged domestically. For example. Wullie Collum gets a jolly over to the San Siro with Celtic for free, few weeks later misses a decision or makes a wrong decision against them, the next trip goes to Bobby Maiden. The old firm don't have to say anything to these refs or condemn them, just make sure they start to favour another ref and try convince the outcast ref to do "better". This is also the same to pundits and journalists. This was years ago and I've substituted current refs into the scenario as none of the refs he spoke about are still in the game. This was at a family party years ago, over 20 years ago. On a side note to Traynor, find it very funny to see him so "Mr Rangers". He wasn't that way inclined when I had to suffer him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Craig Thomson part of the Love St mafia. Quite a few high profile refs in the recent past supported St Midden Edited December 29, 2016 by PTBCAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Dallas and Beaton are supposed to support Rangers. Collum supposed to be Celtic. Madden looks like a Rangers fan. Think Madden is a self confessed, former ST holder at Ibrox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 My Dad worked beside a ref in the 70s. He was a Hearts fan called Jock Bissett. Apparently a good referee, for most part honest but did admit to giving Hearts a pen in a Derby "because they were rubbish at the time".....and they still missed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterintheRain Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 This. Refs are football fans. Most football fans in Scotland support the old firm. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out that chances are most support the OF. Most football fans in Scotland don't support either of the bigot brothers. It's never been true and never will be. Just more of the GFA(gtf) propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 My Dad worked beside a ref in the 70s. He was a Hearts fan called Jock Bissett. Apparently a good referee, for most part honest but did admit to giving Hearts a pen in a Derby "because they were rubbish at the time".....and they still missed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathro's Laptop Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Most football fans in Scotland don't support either of the bigot brothers. It's never been true and never will be. Just more of the GFA(gtf) propaganda. I'm afraid it very much is true. They get 50 & 60 thousand at home when playing well and have thousands of glory hunters from Orkney to Hawick. Stands to reason the vast majority of refs will support, or at least have a soft spot, for one of them. Sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Random bump just to say Willie Conquer is a Jambo. I'll let you get back to your Saturday nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Locky said: Random bump just to say Willie Conquer is a Jambo. I'll let you get back to your Saturday nights. Played in the same team as willie years ago and yes a good jambo but never gave us feck all as a linesman!! think he over compensated for the fact he was a jambo and didn’t want to give us anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: Played in the same team as willie years ago and yes a good jambo but never gave us feck all as a linesman!! think he over compensated for the fact he was a jambo and didn’t want to give us anything. Just googled 'Willie Conquer Hearts' and the first thing that popped up was him getting pelted with coins at Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDK2020 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 29/12/2016 at 10:30, Diadora Van Basten said: On 29/12/2016 at 10:23, loveofthegame said: This. Refs are football fans. Most football fans in Scotland support the old firm. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out that chances are most support the OF. Dallas and Beaton are supposed to support Rangers. Collum supposed to be Celtic. Madden looks like a Rangers fan. No "supposing" about Dallas, Beaton and Collum. Dunno about Madden. Clancy is a red hot tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDK2020 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 29/12/2016 at 17:58, PeterintheRain said: Most football fans in Scotland don't support either of the bigot brothers. It's never been true and never will be. Just more of the GFA(gtf) propaganda. I'm afraid they do, more so now that ever before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDK2020 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 29/12/2016 at 19:20, Cathro's Laptop said: I'm afraid it very much is true. They get 50 & 60 thousand at home when playing well and have thousands of glory hunters from Orkney to Hawick. Stands to reason the vast majority of refs will support, or at least have a soft spot, for one of them. Sad but true. I agree it's very much true. But, TBF, every club, not just the erse cheeks, has bigger crowds the better the team is performing. As for glory hunters, look at the sudden appearance of thousands of presumably new fans at Hampden for cup finals when any non cheek club makes it through. The SPFL and the clubs themselves should be seeking to do something radical to grab the attention of these 'cup final only' fans and getting them to turn up week in, week out. TBH I don't have the first clue as to how on earth to achieve that but then I don't get paid the big bucks that Dungcaster does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemi’s gloves Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 One of the few things to be said for being in the Championship is that we are seeing a few less familiar refs. Doesn’t mean that they are any good, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldie83 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 10 hours ago, JDK2020 said: No "supposing" about Dallas, Beaton and Collum. Dunno about Madden. Clancy is a red hot tim. Clancy is a Hobo is he not? See him out running in Newhaven/Granton a lot.......must live down there. Boys in the pub have convinced me he’s a hobo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, goldie83 said: Clancy is a Hobo is he not? See him out running in Newhaven/Granton a lot.......must live down there. Boys in the pub have convinced me he’s a hobo. Probably made a move East for a better chance of his house windows surviving after an old firm game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Jimmy Duncan and his family all jambos , used to live next to them in gorebridge years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Gollum is a teacher at Cardinal Newman RC High School Bellshill. No prizes for guessing who he supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Jimmy Duncan and his family all jambos , used to live next to them in gorebridge years ago Not sure if it's the same person because i can't mind the name but years ago an ex ref use to stay on Barleyknowe Rd, end house next to the grass field. Spoke to him lots in my younger days, just can't mind his name. Can't be that many refs to live in gorebridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudgeUp Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Charlie Richmond hated this subject being raised as he was an Auchinleck Talbot fan. He hated being associated with supporting either of the Old Firm. He did have a soft spot for Killie. Overall though the guy loves football passionately and doesn't need any invitation to talk about his experiences. Shite ref though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedBoy Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 hours ago, JDK2020 said: No "supposing" about Dallas, Beaton and Collum. Dunno about Madden. Clancy is a red hot tim. Having trained with the refs when they were at peffermill I can confirm that Clancy is Rangers and Willie Collum “hates every team equally” also calumn Doyle I know is H1b5 daft like his dad mark, greig Haynes is also H1b5 as are most of the EDRA, quite frightening really for the future 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, ShedBoy said: Having trained with the refs when they were at peffermill I can confirm that Clancy is Rangers and Willie Collum “hates every team equally” also calumn Doyle I know is H1b5 daft like his dad mark, greig Haynes is also H1b5 as are most of the EDRA, quite frightening really for the future 👍🏻 Good pitches at peffermill played down there for my work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Jimmy Duncan and his family all jambos , used to live next to them in gorebridge years ago Jimmy Duncan was very unfortunate to be the referee of a particularly nasty and eventful Old Firm game, when all hell broke loose. His referee career was pretty much knackered after it. For me the biggest issue about referees isn't so much who they support, but where they live. The current location of most, so called top, referees must expose them and their families to all sorts of threats and intimidation from morons of the ugly sisters. It can't be easy to ignore or put up with that. All fuelled by the evil of religious sectarianism which has strangled Scottish football. The easy way out of any confrontation is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedBoy Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Harry Potter said: Good pitches at peffermill played down there for my work. Refereed my last game there by the wee tunnel. Like you say great pitches and if you get a big crowd at that pitch it’s loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, ShedBoy said: Refereed my last game there by the wee tunnel. Like you say great pitches and if you get a big crowd at that pitch it’s loud! Aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger jambo98 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Back in the late 79s, early 80s, Dougie Downie reffed and he was a PHM like all his family. Bill Crombie was a ref as well from a Hearts background although that backfired on us when he famously didn't give us a blatant penalty early in a certain game in 1986. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, ginger jambo98 said: Back in the late 79s, early 80s, Dougie Downie reffed and he was a PHM like all his family. Bill Crombie was a ref as well from a Hearts background although that backfired on us when he famously didn't give us a blatant penalty early in a certain game in 1986. Aye mind o him, stone waller as well, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VargasDa Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I know a linesman who was/still is? a massive Jambo, it was him and his Dad that got me hooked on Hearts in the early 80's, me coming from a family of Tims, thanks god for that, I owe them a lot. Hes done a few of our games and one massive game which i was very surprised with, asked him about if they have to say who they support and wouldn't give a straight answer. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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