McCrae Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I like Walker, but he has to stop diving. Yesterday his dive in the box after only a few minutes was laughable. He should have been booked! If he had stayed on his feet he may have been able create a chance. I dont like players cheating and Walker needs to get this out of his game. He already has a reputation and we could easily end up not getting a penalty because of his previous behaviour... or worse still he could get sent off. You wonder if last weeks wrong booking was due to Walkers diving reputation.... if it had been another player we may have seen a different outcome. I hope Cathro has a word with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Pish. He turned and slipped. No dive no claim for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Posted twice in anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumelzier Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Never a dive, 100% slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 I sit in the main stand almost opposite to where he dived. It was a clear dive, He didn't slip. He took a poor touch and then dived to try and win a penalty. Even if you disagree with my thoughts on yesterday... he has a history of diving and it will influence decisions. It has to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Jumped in the air and he did look to the ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Demolition Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Pretty sure I saw him claim for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Sitting in N1, it was right in front of me. He was definitely looking for a penalty and should have been booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I recall the incident. I don't think he dived. I didn't notice him appealing either. Seemed more like him letting the ref etc. know he slipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtartan74 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Looked a dive to me in G, agree he needs to cut it out. He also gets unfair treatment from refs, goes with a reputation I guess. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 he has a history of diving and it will influence decisions. How many times has he been penalised for diving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everybody Loves Baz! Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 How many times has he been penalised for diving? Once, last week. Retrospectively first game of the season. Yep, that's a history according to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Forgetting the dive I still say he's a lazy fecker on the pitch!!! 3 or 4 decent minutes in 90 aint enough. Pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I hope he slipped. If not should be heavily fined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Jamie doesn't help himself sometimes if he wants to get rid of the diver tag and the referees have already got a perception about him being a diver,so even if he's cleaned out in the box the referees will think twice about giving the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Strictly speaking if it's happened once you have a history for it! I thought it was a slip - he didn't even have control of the ball by then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Only a ****ing idiot would think that was a dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Once, last week. Retrospectively first game of the season. Yep, that's a history according to some. So, once then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 He is a good player, but not half as bloody good as he likes to think. A boot up the arse is definitley required and a reminder that he needs to add hard work to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave McCreery's knee Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Only a ******* idiot would think that was a dive. Nonsense, it was as blantant a dive as seen in a while and very poor from Walker. He had a rotten game yesterday and is either unfit or disinterested. Hasn't gone past a man in ages and his development has stalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I think he could do with being "rested". He cuts inside too often and runs across the park. Muirhead is far more direct and offers more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Looked like he just slipped to me. Didn't seem to make any claim for a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everybody Loves Baz! Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 So, once then. Aye, but like I said, that's enough for some with an agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 So, once then. And it was rescinded. So it is actually nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Aye, but like I said, that's enough for some with an agenda It makes me sad to see so many Hearts fans holding an anti-Hearts agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 he never claimed for a penalty against celtic either.. beaton awarded it he still got a 2 match ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 he never claimed for a penalty against celtic either.. beaton awarded it he still got a 2 match ban He never. It was neither a dive or a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 It makes me sad to see so many Hearts fans holding an anti-Hearts agenda. What is anti Hearts about wanting a player to stop cheating? Its all about standards. We could lose a match as a result of Walker diving. Calling this out before it becomes more of issue is the right thing to do for the team and the club. Ignoring this anti football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 He never. It was neither a dive or a penalty. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 What is anti Hearts about wanting a player to stop cheating? Its all about standards. We could lose a match as a result of Walker diving. Calling this out before it becomes more of issue is the right thing to do for the team and the club. Ignoring this anti football. I sat in Gorgie Road stand so a fair but away but thought he had slipped. I think TV will prove you are wrong but accept it may also prove I am wrong. Why not wait till its been on telly before castigating him. If he dived, he deserved a booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiehmfc Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I thought at the time he was looking for it. The caveat is, I can think of two or three times this season he has stayed on his feet where he was being fouled when I felt he should of gone done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 What is anti Hearts about wanting a player to stop cheating? Its all about standards. We could lose a match as a result of Walker diving. Calling this out before it becomes more of issue is the right thing to do for the team and the club. Ignoring this anti football.He doesn't cheat though. He was booked last week, and it was rescinded. And on the subject of not wanting a player to cheat: Do you not want a defender to deliberately foul a player to stop a goal? Do you not want a player to steal a yard or two when given a freekick? Do you not want a player to time waste if we are winning with a few minutes to go? Do you not want a player to claim a throw that is not ours? Do you not want a player to deny a penalty decision for the opposition, even if it is a penalty? Do you not want a player to claim and celebrate a goal if he knows it is offside or not over the line? Personally, I want all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Personally, I think any Hearts supporter who wants to have a go at one of our own for something that happens the length and breadth of the league, is a ****ing idiot. The media do a good enough job of vilifying our more talented players without our own fans buying in to their shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Clark Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Only a ******* idiot would think that was a dive. Looked like a dive from where I was sat. Good to hear it could have been a slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Hopefully wasn't a dive... The pitch isn't great right now, and the amount of excessive watering they did prior to kick off and at half time was stupid. Players slipping in the areas where the sprinkler was being aimed at. The pitch being overwatered isn't a new thing either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 What is anti Hearts about wanting a player to stop cheating? Its all about standards. We could lose a match as a result of Walker diving. Calling this out before it becomes more of issue is the right thing to do for the team and the club. Ignoring this anti football. You're trying to brand one of our players as a serial cheat. That's anti-Hearts. But then, you already knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Seriously? I ****ing despise some of our supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I like Walker, but he has to stop diving. Yesterday his dive in the box after only a few minutes was laughable. He should have been booked! If he had stayed on his feet he may have been able create a chance. I dont like players cheating and Walker needs to get this out of his game. He already has a reputation and we could easily end up not getting a penalty because of his previous behaviour... or worse still he could get sent off. You wonder if last weeks wrong booking was due to Walkers diving reputation.... if it had been another player we may have seen a different outcome. I hope Cathro has a word with him. Wow. If only this was all we had to worry about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I like Walker, but he has to stop diving. Yesterday his dive in the box after only a few minutes was laughable. He should have been booked! If he had stayed on his feet he may have been able create a chance. I dont like players cheating and Walker needs to get this out of his game. He already has a reputation and we could easily end up not getting a penalty because of his previous behaviour... or worse still he could get sent off. You wonder if last weeks wrong booking was due to Walkers diving reputation.... if it had been another player we may have seen a different outcome. I hope Cathro has a word with him. He was off balance and fell over. No dive and pretty sad that a Hearts fan would suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogemz Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 If that was a dive then it's the one of the worst attempts I've ever seen. It looked as though it was simply a case of losing his balance from where I was in the main stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 People are aware you can dive without appealing to the ref? Always found it bizzare when this is used as a defence against a dive. Whether or not Walker dived is up for debate, but please stop spouting this shite about not appealing. It's irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 People are aware you can dive without appealing to the ref? Always found it bizzare when this is used as a defence against a dive. Whether or not Walker dived is up for debate, but please stop spouting this shite about not appealing. It's irrelevant. It can also be neither a dive or a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 He was off balance and fell over. No dive and pretty sad that a Hearts fan would suggest otherwise. It's sad that diving is an issue in football. Walker has already been caught doing it. He has to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 You're trying to brand one of our players as a serial cheat. That's anti-Hearts. But then, you already knew that. No it's not.,.. it's called being balanced. If a player does something wrong it should be called out. By your thinking no Hearts player can ever do wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 No it's not.,.. it's called being balanced. If a player does something wrong it should be called out. By your thinking no Hearts player can ever do wrong. There's nothing balanced about branding a Hearts player a cheat for something he's been penalised for once. You should work for BBC Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 How many times has he been penalised for diving? 3 times for Hearts, not including the one that was rescinded last week or the one that was retrospectively awarded after the Celtic game early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 3 times for Hearts, not including the one that was rescinded last week or the one that was retrospectively awarded after the Celtic game early in the season. When were these three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 When were these three? 5th Oct 2013, St Mirren at home 2nd Jan 2014, Hibs away 12th Apr 2016, Inverness away I'm getting this information from http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jamie-walker/leistungsdaten/spieler/72518/plus/0?saison=2016 so may not be 100% accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 5th Oct 2013, St Mirren at home 2nd Jan 2014, Hibs away 12th Apr 2016, Inverness away I'm getting this information from http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jamie-walker/leistungsdaten/spieler/72518/plus/0?saison=2016 so may not be 100% accurate. I remember the Hibs one, was a clear penalty IIRC. Haven't seen the other ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avhudtheteeshirt Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I'm getting fed up of this diving accusations, mostly from the media? More and more we hear the Walker dives or an other Hearts player! When the same thing happens from one of the uglies, the pundits always seem to find a reason for the dive!! In our case Scott Brown has a lot to answer for, as his outburst on Walker for diving yet the following week when Griffiths went down easy nothing said? These reasons are why Celtic will win the League at a canter, and Rangers will end up second, as any other team in this league gets any sort of run going the media and referees will make sure it is ended!!! Status Quo will be back!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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