Deans Jambo Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 They should be able to marry up the time of cctv footage with sound from tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Funnily enough, at the Celtic game I thought the pre-match music was louder than usual and wondered if Scott Wilson had turned up the volume to drown out the 'singing' by the away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The club aren't happy with the Herald then... Statement time [emoji4] http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/5372 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 What a completely pointless statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The club aren't happy with the Herald then... Statement time [emoji4] http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/5372 Especially ironic article when Hearts are the only club who actually appear to be taking a strong stance on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 What a completely pointless statement. How is it pointless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 What a completely pointless statement. I don't think it is. It's giving The Herald the finger because of their incorrect report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 How is it pointless? A statement to tell us that our cameras are industry standard and we're not happy with the Herald? No need imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 A statement to tell us that our cameras are industry standard and we're not happy with the Herald? No need imo. It's perfectly common and reasonable (and pretty much standard procedure) for statements to be used to correct misrepresentation, and especially misrepresentation affecting perception of professionalism and security at the club. From a fans' perspective it's surely of interest too, especially when we spend as much time as we do discussing what the club are/aren't able/prepared to do in terms of pulling up visiting weedgies etc. When I read the Herald article this morning my first thought was to wonder if or why we didn't have sound, when the suggestion seemed to be that absence of sound recording was unusual. I shall now wonder no more [emoji846] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 It reads to me that Police Scotland have instigated this investigation themselves.... If so this could be a first ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 It's perfectly common and reasonable (and pretty much standard procedure) for statements to be used to correct misrepresentation, and especially misrepresentation affecting perception of professionalism and security at the club. From a fans' perspective it's surely of interest too, especially when we spend as much time as we do discussing what the club are/aren't able/prepared to do in terms of pulling up visiting weedgies etc. When I read the Herald article this morning my first thought was to wonder if or why we didn't have sound, when the suggestion seemed to be that absence of sound recording was unusual. I shall now wonder no more [emoji846] Second paragraph especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 It reads to me that Police Scotland have instigated this investigation themselves.... If so this could be a first ! Definitely. It 100% feels like there is a lot more going on in the background at the moment with regards this sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambosdad Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 We better watch out when we go through there. Our away support songbook has been commented on/criticised before. One word out of place and all hell will break loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I really hope Ann has an end game when it comes to all this non sense. I hope she is building up to something. I totally understand the thought process of getting in house tidied up first. We live in a society of what aboutary and we all know if we challenged the old firm behaviour etc we'd be hit with the previous bad behaviour of our own support. I get that she wants to be seen to be challenging our own fans to behave. However when are we gonna start to see some statements action taken against the old firm clubs? We've had the club captain of another club call one of our players a cheat. Had no apology or retraction etc. We've had countless incidents of bad behaviour from the old firm away fans. I really hope the club have a master plan and this is all part of the overall end game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 It reads to me that Police Scotland have instigated this investigation themselves.... If so this could be a first ! Very much so. Sure some will still blame Ann though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Very much so. Sure some will still blame Ann though. Naturally. The fact that anyone can possibly believe that she wants to go after Hearts fans and leave the OF fans to it boggles my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Hearts are correct to issue the statement. The tone of the article strongly suggests that not having audio is unusual, an oversight, or even negligence by the club. Having audio on CCTV is extremely unusual and is only permitted in very unique circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Hearts are correct to issue the statement. The tone of the article strongly suggests that not having audio is unusual, an oversight, or even negligence by the club. Having audio on CCTV is extremely unusual and is only permitted in very unique circumstances. Correct. There is no audio with any of the CCTV cameras at train stations or onboard trains. This still hasn't stopped convictions being obtained in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Audio recording is a very tricky subject in terms of CCTV. Britain despite the very high level of CCTV also has very strict public privacy and data collection laws. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/29/cctv_convo_recording/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The club should just make it easier on its self and for the police and reduce Celtics allocation even further. It would be far easier for the police to pick out offenders and there would be absolutely no excuse for their inactivity on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The club should just make it easier on its self and for the police and reduce Celtics allocation even further. It would be far easier for the police to pick out offenders and there would be absolutely no excuse for their inactivity on this. This x1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc-jambo Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 good, direct statement from the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo72 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Plenty of examples all over Europe of club fans being banned from grounds for behaviour. The OF have for decades poisoned every ground in Scotland with their bile and behaviour. I don't mean a few casuals. But swathes of low life village idiots, peeing everywhere and intimidating women and kids. If the non-OF chairmen / women all over Scotland truly put ethics before money they'd all get together and ban both sets of fans indefinitely from their grounds. Making every game for home ST holders only to avoid infiltration. That's the nuclear option this needs. Yes they'd no doubt reciprocate. But then their fans would be attending home games all season with no away fans in attendance, and no away games to go to. Anything short of this is feeling like lip service we've all heard before. What would it harm Hearts? A few thousand on 4 home games? Feels worth it. Give the empty seats to local school children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblick1874 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I really hope Ann has an end game when it comes to all this non sense. I hope she is building up to something. I totally understand the thought process of getting in house tidied up first. We live in a society of what aboutary and we all know if we challenged the old firm behaviour etc we'd be hit with the previous bad behaviour of our own support. I get that she wants to be seen to be challenging our own fans to behave. However when are we gonna start to see some statements action taken against the old firm clubs? We've had the club captain of another club call one of our players a cheat. Had no apology or retraction etc. We've had countless incidents of bad behaviour from the old firm away fans. I really hope the club have a master plan and this is all part of the overall end game. Her end game is to rid Scottish football of sectarianism, starting at home. What in the statement gives you the idea that it is anything else other than to keep the record strait while she does that. Non sense? Your at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Her end game is to rid Scottish football of sectarianism, starting at home. What in the statement gives you the idea that it is anything else other than to keep the record strait while she does that. Non sense? Your at it. The non sense I was talking about was the bigotry mate. Maybe I didn't make it very clear. I hope she has an end game to rid the Scottish game of all the bigotry non sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The club should just make it easier on its self and for the police and reduce Celtics allocation even further. It would be far easier for the police to pick out offenders and there would be absolutely no excuse for their inactivity on this. Absolutely this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st1874 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 FoCUS camera's also record audio, all they do is turn & face the subject & record them. No need for TV audio. [emoji6] FoCUS are a disgrace though, and the day I support their actions is when I pack it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His name is Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I wouldnt be surprised if a celtic fan/fans have made a complaint to the police about hearts fans. I saw a link on Facebook after the celtic game which included an email from a celtic fan to our head of security asking what action the club were taking re the 'assault' on sinclair by a hearts fan after his goal. The email was replied to stating that the police were investigating and that the club would take further action if required. Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Let's fine the herald. How much can we get for misrepresentation and dragging the club and fans through the mud in the public . Pay for Watt's transfer fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 FoCUS are a disgrace though, and the day I support their actions is when I pack it in. Who are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 FoCUS are a disgrace though, and the day I support their actions is when I pack it in. Why are they a disgrace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st1874 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Why are they a disgrace? Well, simply, if FoCUS targeted any group in society like they did football supporters then it would, rightfully, end in uproar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I wouldnt be surprised if a celtic fan/fans have made a complaint to the police about hearts fans. I saw a link on Facebook after the celtic game which included an email from a celtic fan to our head of security asking what action the club were taking re the 'assault' on sinclair by a hearts fan after his goal. The email was replied to stating that the police were investigating and that the club would take further action if required. Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk Yep. They're collectively very good at gathering info, sharing it, complaining to relevant personnel or police and pestering the media. They're way more organised than pretty much any other club's supporters from what I've seen. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 We better watch out when we go through there. Our away support songbook has been commented on/criticised before. One word out of place and all hell will break loose. have you been to any away games this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 have you been to any away games this season? I've been at Aberdeen, St Johnstone and Partick and apart from the cringey Jock Stein song sung once at Partick the songs have been fine. Even though it took me the whole game to work out the lyrics to the Things can only get better song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 It's perfectly common and reasonable (and pretty much standard procedure) for statements to be used to correct misrepresentation, and especially misrepresentation affecting perception of professionalism and security at the club. From a fans' perspective it's surely of interest too, especially when we spend as much time as we do discussing what the club are/aren't able/prepared to do in terms of pulling up visiting weedgies etc. When I read the Herald article this morning my first thought was to wonder if or why we didn't have sound, when the suggestion seemed to be that absence of sound recording was unusual. I shall now wonder no more [emoji846] Well put, Redm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Love how its us that are criticised for it Like Celtic only start their pish at tynecastle. Why not ask why Celtic parks equipment doesn't have audio ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo-in-furness Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 The club should just make it easier on its self and for the police and reduce Celtics allocation even further. It would be far easier for the police to pick out offenders and there would be absolutely no excuse for their inactivity on this. I've been proposing for ages that the away support section should be the same size for every visiting fans, Hamilton or Hibs, the erse cheeks, and all, fence it off to one section and if necessary keep them back for 20 minutes at full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 A statement to tell us that our cameras are industry standard and we're not happy with the Herald? No need imo. And you would probably have been slating the club for not putting up a statement had they not done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 "See no evil, Hear no evil" (with all due respect to the late Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder) next weekend BBC Scotland News ?@BBCScotlandNews 3m3 minutes ago CCTV staff in Glasgow to strike on weekend of Celtic v Rangers game http://bbc.in/2bPVkXT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 "See no evil, Hear no evil" (with all due respect to the late Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder) next weekend BBC Scotland News ?@BBCScotlandNews 3m3 minutes ago CCTV staff in Glasgow to strike on weekend of Celtic v Rangers game http://bbc.in/2bPVkXT Convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 See the next time that shower come to Tynie, we should just film the mutants ourselves and send the evidence to the police and media outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 And you would probably have been slating the club for not putting up a statement had they not done so. Right. Good one. Considering I said I didn't think it was warranted, I doubt I'd really have cared about them not saying anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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