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some managers just have it when it comes to derbies but i dont think Robbie is one of them....what are his stats?

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Kickback honking with Hibby these days.

 

Not even subtle.

 

Ftr, Neilson has done no worse than Stubbs.

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some managers just have it when it comes to derbies but i dont think Robbie is one of them....what are his stats? 

 

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I've never hid my feelings about Robbie and Hibs.

 

Put it this way..... He really needs this win in my eyes. Still unsure about his Big game management but since the turn of the year I genuinely see a difference in him and his approach to games.

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some managers just have it when it comes to derbies but i dont think Robbie is one of them....what are his stats? 

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i am being 100% genuine so no need for the smart arse comments and i agree with PTBCAL  i am unsure about his big game management. One of the draws was down to  Oz's late wonder strike but  to answer my question he has won once out of four games so his record is not the best

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i am being 100% genuine so no need for the smart arse comments and i agree with PTBCAL i am unsure about his big game management. One of the draws was down to Oz's late wonder strike but to answer my question he has won once out of four games so his record is not the best

Hibs welt.

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i am being 100% genuine so no need for the smart arse comments and i agree with PTBCAL  i am unsure about his big game management. One of the draws was down to  Oz's late wonder strike but  to answer my question he has won once out of four games so his record is not the best

 

Just to humour you...just because Oz's strike was late does not devalue the point because a game last 90+ minutes so luck has nothing to do with it. And we need to thank our management team for bringing in a player who is capable of doing those sort of things. You're not going to see Paul Hanlon do that anytime soon, are you.

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Just to humour you...just because Oz's strike was late does not devalue the point because a game last 90+ minutes so luck has nothing to do with it. And we need to thank our management team for bringing in a player who is capable of doing those sort of things. You're not going to see Paul Hanlon do that anytime soon, are you.

yeah i get that but i still dont think his record or the way we play in big games is good but saying that the way we played against Aberdeen in the cup was spot on - hopefully he has learnt from that

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i am being 100% genuine so no need for the smart arse comments and i agree with PTBCAL  i am unsure about his big game management. One of the draws was down to  Oz's late wonder strike but  to answer my question he has won once out of four games so his record is not the best

 

IF, and this is a big IF you were being genuine then how on earth do you not know the record....Robbie has played Hibs four times as a manager, last season...memory lapse?

 

p.s I am guess that his record as a player is pretty impressive.

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If you are wanting to look at stats over games then we have only lost to hibs 4 times at tynie since 1999 and lost very few games at Tynecastle under Robbie over this season and last.

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I've never hid my feelings about Robbie and Hibs.

 

Put it this way..... He really needs this win in my eyes. Still unsure about his Big game management but since the turn of the year I genuinely see a difference in him and his approach to games.

I think the fact that we have drawn twice with Celtic and beaten Aberdeen this season would suggest that he's doing fine this season in the big occasions.

 

Sundays huge but if we don't win the manager shouldn't be questioned, he's done a fantastic job so far.

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his record is exactly the same as Stubbs, 

 

 

however Robbie does have a trophy and winners medal, something stubbs will never have 

 

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deal with it hibs  :coolgleamA:

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So you think 1 out of 4 is a good record? I cant think of any previous managers with a worse derby record 

 

I haven't like his tactics but you seem to be talking pish with some shan spin.

 

You could just as easily say "Robbie is hasn't lost in 3 out of 4 derbies" or "Robbie has only lost 1 out of 4 derbies".

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Just to humour you...just because Oz's strike was late does not devalue the point because a game last 90+ minutes so luck has nothing to do with it. And we need to thank our management team for bringing in a player who is capable of doing those sort of things. You're not going to see Paul Hanlon do that anytime soon, are you.

And to humour him further, in a fairly even game where H1B5 were slightly better, Neilson changed his tactics and the flow of the game by bringing on Walker with half an hour to go. It was then all Hearts and remained that way despite us going down to 10 men, until we got a deserved equaliser.

 

But nah, Robbie shitz da bed against Hibs like.

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I think the fact that we have drawn twice with Celtic and beaten Aberdeen this season would suggest that he's doing fine this season in the big occasions.

 

Sundays huge but if we don't win the manager shouldn't be questioned, he's done a fantastic job so far.

i am in no doubt that he is doing (and has done) a fantastic job and i see from first hand from the time i spend at Riccarton how dedicated the whole mamagmnet team are i just think when it comes to derbies some managers have it (Paulo for example) it may be down to luck more than anything but you dont want that monkey on your back. Hopefully on Sunday he will prove me wrong and we will all be happy especially some of the dicks on here that dont seem to think you are allowed to post a genuine question!!

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his record is exactly the same as Stubbs, 

 

 

however Robbie does have a trophy and winners medal, something stubbs will never have 

 

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deal with it hibs  :coolgleamA:

i am not comparing him with HIbs managers - i am comparing him with other hearts managers

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TBF, if anyone had come on and asked what his stats are in Derbies as a manager they would get the same treatment as you have in this thread, so you spend a lot of time at Riccarton...that would make me think you are a big fan of the club...yet didnt know the results from the four games last season?

 

Surely you can see why folk have reacted in this manner?

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I haven't like his tactics but you seem to be talking pish with some shan spin.

 

You could just as easily say "Robbie is hasn't lost in 3 out of 4 derbies" or "Robbie has only lost 1 out of 4 derbies".

i was (and still am) trying to compare his derby record with other hearts managers....end of!!!

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i was (and still am) trying to compare his derby record with other hearts managers....end of!!!

 

So who are we comparing him too ?

 

As i said Rix has 100 % but managed 1 derby.. (i know who i'd rather have)

 

Im sure someone a London hearts based poster can tell us how Robbie looks after only 4 derbies... 

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whats robbies scottish cup record against hibs? how many former scottish cup winners do the hibees have in their team. manager included

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TBF, if anyone had come on and asked what his stats are in Derbies as a manager they would get the same treatment as you have in this thread, so you spend a lot of time at Riccarton...that would make me think you are a big fan of the club...yet didnt know the results from the four games last season?

 

Surely you can see why folk have reacted in this manner?

im a season ticket holder and my son plays at hearts. Due to the very nature of my son playing at hearts means i can hardly get to games as he plays on a saturday. Saying that next time i will just look up the facts my self  rather than ask the experst on here to try to get an opinion on what fans think of the managers derby record thus far

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So who are we comparing him too ?

 

As i said Rix has 100 % but managed 1 derby.. (i know who i'd rather have)

 

Im sure someone a London hearts based poster can tell us how Robbie looks after only 4 derbies... 

i wished i had just asked London Hearts direct instead of posting on here. lesson learnt wont bother posting on here again

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i wished i had just asked London Hearts direct instead of posting on here. lesson learnt wont bother posting on here again

 

Its not what you asked more of how you asked it. 

 

Im sure you will be made to feel more welcome in the next few days weeks. Dont take it personally :)

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Robbie did get things wrong last season. He also got enough right to see us storm the league.

 

 

He learned though and much like many of our current team he is still learning.

 

 

Mistakes will still be made but he looks settled in his system now and for me the inconsistencies in our play have been more player related than management related. Rossi against Hamilton being a recent example.

 

We are still building and a long way from our finished product.

 

 

We aren't struggling to beat Morton by a single goal.

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The only time Stubbs has beat Hearts was the time we eased off having already won the title at a canter. Can't see that dismal record changing come Sunday.

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IF, and this is a big IF you were being genuine then how on earth do you not know the record....Robbie has played Hibs four times as a manager, last season...memory lapse?

 

p.s I am guess that his record as a player is pretty impressive.

Anyone who's played for Hearts in the last 30 years is going to have a pretty impressive record against the filth

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whats robbies scottish cup record against hibs? how many former scottish cup winners do the hibees have in their team. manager included

 

Played 1 Won 1 as a player.. (he didnt play in the Scottish cup game at Easter Road)

 

Scottish Cup Winner in the Sqauds : Buaben, Alexander, Gomis and Neilson v Stokes and Thomson 

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some managers just have it when it comes to derbies but i dont think Robbie is one of them....what are his stats?

What was Pat Fenlons derby record?
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Paulo Sergio played 4 games... Won 4 L 0. Scored 12 Conceded 2( McPake was the only hibs player to score against us that season)

 

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So you think 1 out of 4 is a good record? I cant think of any previous managers with a worse derby record 

Previous manager with which club?

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I think his Derby record is about to get better.

 

Sad to think we may never play Hibs again.

We will. Next season we have that seeded league cup thingy. Top teams guaranteed to play $#!t teams. It'll happen sometime in the future. Not league games though.

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We will. Next season we have that seeded league cup thingy. Top teams guaranteed to play $#!t teams. It'll happen sometime in the future. Not league games though.

Failure to get promoted again.

 

Stubbsy walks.

 

Ian Murray becomes manager.

 

7000 fans becomes 4000 fans.

 

Relegated to div 1.

 

Hibs end (not liquidated - they just all give up).

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Managers in 4 Derbies or more

Ranked by Loss %

 

Tommy Walker worse than Robbie!

 

1    Paulo Sergio from 2011-12 to 2011-12 P4 W4 D0 L0 W100.00% D0.00% L0.00% F12 A2
2    Sandy Clark from 1993-94 to 1993-94 P5 W3 D2 L0 W60.00% D40.00% L0.00% F6 A2
3    Peter Fairley from 1901-02 to 1902-03 P4 W2 D2 L0 W50.00% D50.00% L0.00% F5 A3
3    David Pratt from 1935-36 to 1936-37 P4 W2 D2 L0 W50.00% D50.00% L0.00% F15 A9
5    Joe Jordan from 1990-91 to 1992-93 P11 W5 D6 L0 W45.45% D54.55% L0.00% F14 A6
6    Alex MacDonald from 1983-84 to 1989-90 P28 W13 D12 L3 W46.43% D42.86% L10.71% F37 A24
7    Lindsay Waugh from 1903-04 to 1907-08 P9 W7 D1 L1 W77.78% D11.11% L11.11% F18 A8
8    John McCartney from 1909-10 to 1919-20 P23 W17 D3 L3 W73.91% D13.04% L13.04% F48 A19
9    Craig Levein from 2000-01 to 2004-05 P12 W5 D5 L2 W41.67% D41.67% L16.67% F21 A14
10    Jim Jefferies from 1995-96 to 2010-11 P23 W11 D7 L5 W47.83% D30.43% L21.74% F35 A29
11    Anatoly Korobochka from 2006-07 to 2007-08 P4 W2 D1 L1 W50.00% D25.00% L25.00% F4 A2
11    Valdas Ivanauskas from 2005-06 to 2006-07 P4 W2 D1 L1 W50.00% D25.00% L25.00% F10 A6
13    Robbie Neilson from 2014-15 to 2014-15 P4 W1 D2 L1 W25.00% D50.00% L25.00% F4 A5
14    Gary Locke from 2012-13 to 2013-14 P7 W4 D1 L2 W57.14% D14.29% L28.57% F8 A5
15    Csaba Laszlo from 2008-09 to 2009-10 P7 W1 D4 L2 W14.29% D57.14% L28.57% F4 A4
16    Tommy Walker from 1951-52 to 1966-67 P40 W22 D6 L12 W55.00% D15.00% L30.00% F99 A66
17    Frank Moss from 1937-38 to 1939-40 P6 W3 D1 L2 W50.00% D16.67% L33.33% F15 A14
18    William McCartney from 1919-20 to 1934-35 P30 W7 D13 L10 W23.33% D43.33% L33.33% F46 A43
19    John Harvey from 1966-67 to 1970-71 P8 W1 D4 L3 W12.50% D50.00% L37.50% F4 A8
20    Committee from 1877-78 to 1900-01 P26 W10 D6 L10 W38.46% D23.08% L38.46% F44 A44
21    William Esplin Ormond from 1978-79 to 1978-79 P5 W1 D2 L2 W20.00% D40.00% L40.00% F6 A7
22    David McLean from 1941-42 to 1950-51 P23 W11 D2 L10 W47.83% D8.70% L43.48% F37 A40
23    John Hagart from 1974-75 to 1976-77 P9 W0 D4 L5 W0.00% D44.44% L55.56% F5 A13
24    Caretaker from 1907-08 to 2005-06 P8 W3 D0 L5 W37.50% D0.00% L62.50% F16 A16
25    Bobby Seith from 1970-71 to 1974-75 P9 W1 D2 L6 W11.11% D22.22% L66.67% F7 A19
26    Tommy McLean from 1994-95 to 1994-95 P4 W1 D0 L3 W25.00% D0.00% L75.00% F4 A6

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Failure to get promoted again.

 

Stubbsy walks.

 

Ian Murray becomes manager.

 

7000 fans becomes 4000 fans.

 

Relegated to div 1.

 

Hibs end (not liquidated - they just all give up).

now i actually like the way this thread is going!!

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Managers in 4 Derbies or more

 

Ranked by Loss %

 

Tommy Walker worse than Robbie!

 

1 Paulo Sergio from 2011-12 to 2011-12 P4 W4 D0 L0 W100.00% D0.00% L0.00% F12 A2

2 Sandy Clark from 1993-94 to 1993-94 P5 W3 D2 L0 W60.00% D40.00% L0.00% F6 A2

3 Peter Fairley from 1901-02 to 1902-03 P4 W2 D2 L0 W50.00% D50.00% L0.00% F5 A3

3 David Pratt from 1935-36 to 1936-37 P4 W2 D2 L0 W50.00% D50.00% L0.00% F15 A9

5 Joe Jordan from 1990-91 to 1992-93 P11 W5 D6 L0 W45.45% D54.55% L0.00% F14 A6

6 Alex MacDonald from 1983-84 to 1989-90 P28 W13 D12 L3 W46.43% D42.86% L10.71% F37 A24

7 Lindsay Waugh from 1903-04 to 1907-08 P9 W7 D1 L1 W77.78% D11.11% L11.11% F18 A8

8 John McCartney from 1909-10 to 1919-20 P23 W17 D3 L3 W73.91% D13.04% L13.04% F48 A19

9 Craig Levein from 2000-01 to 2004-05 P12 W5 D5 L2 W41.67% D41.67% L16.67% F21 A14

10 Jim Jefferies from 1995-96 to 2010-11 P23 W11 D7 L5 W47.83% D30.43% L21.74% F35 A29

11 Anatoly Korobochka from 2006-07 to 2007-08 P4 W2 D1 L1 W50.00% D25.00% L25.00% F4 A2

11 Valdas Ivanauskas from 2005-06 to 2006-07 P4 W2 D1 L1 W50.00% D25.00% L25.00% F10 A6

13 Robbie Neilson from 2014-15 to 2014-15 P4 W1 D2 L1 W25.00% D50.00% L25.00% F4 A5

14 Gary Locke from 2012-13 to 2013-14 P7 W4 D1 L2 W57.14% D14.29% L28.57% F8 A5

15 Csaba Laszlo from 2008-09 to 2009-10 P7 W1 D4 L2 W14.29% D57.14% L28.57% F4 A4

16 Tommy Walker from 1951-52 to 1966-67 P40 W22 D6 L12 W55.00% D15.00% L30.00% F99 A66

17 Frank Moss from 1937-38 to 1939-40 P6 W3 D1 L2 W50.00% D16.67% L33.33% F15 A14

18 William McCartney from 1919-20 to 1934-35 P30 W7 D13 L10 W23.33% D43.33% L33.33% F46 A43

19 John Harvey from 1966-67 to 1970-71 P8 W1 D4 L3 W12.50% D50.00% L37.50% F4 A8

20 Committee from 1877-78 to 1900-01 P26 W10 D6 L10 W38.46% D23.08% L38.46% F44 A44

21 William Esplin Ormond from 1978-79 to 1978-79 P5 W1 D2 L2 W20.00% D40.00% L40.00% F6 A7

22 David McLean from 1941-42 to 1950-51 P23 W11 D2 L10 W47.83% D8.70% L43.48% F37 A40

23 John Hagart from 1974-75 to 1976-77 P9 W0 D4 L5 W0.00% D44.44% L55.56% F5 A13

24 Caretaker from 1907-08 to 2005-06 P8 W3 D0 L5 W37.50% D0.00% L62.50% F16 A16

25 Bobby Seith from 1970-71 to 1974-75 P9 W1 D2 L6 W11.11% D22.22% L66.67% F7 A19

26 Tommy McLean from 1994-95 to 1994-95 P4 W1 D0 L3 W25.00% D0.00% L75.00% F4 A6

You'd think Locke won every Derby 5-0 the way some people go on about him.

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By W%

Gary Locke better than Tommy Walker !

 

1    Paulo Sergio from 2011-12 to 2011-12 P4 W4 D0 L0 W100.00% D0.00% L0.00% F12 A2
2    Lindsay Waugh from 1903-04 to 1907-08 P9 W7 D1 L1 W77.78% D11.11% L11.11% F18 A8
3    John McCartney from 1909-10 to 1919-20 P23 W17 D3 L3 W73.91% D13.04% L13.04% F48 A19
4    Sandy Clark from 1993-94 to 1993-94 P5 W3 D2 L0 W60.00% D40.00% L0.00% F6 A2
5    Gary Locke from 2012-13 to 2013-14 P7 W4 D1 L2 W57.14% D14.29% L28.57% F8 A5
6    Tommy Walker from 1951-52 to 1966-67 P40 W22 D6 L12 W55.00% D15.00% L30.00% F99 A66

7    Peter Fairley from 1901-02 to 1902-03 P4 W2 D2 L0 W50.00% D50.00% L0.00% F5 A3
7    David Pratt from 1935-36 to 1936-37 P4 W2 D2 L0 W50.00% D50.00% L0.00% F15 A9
9    Anatoly Korobochka from 2006-07 to 2007-08 P4 W2 D1 L1 W50.00% D25.00% L25.00% F4 A2
9    Valdas Ivanauskas from 2005-06 to 2006-07 P4 W2 D1 L1 W50.00% D25.00% L25.00% F10 A6
11    Frank Moss from 1937-38 to 1939-40 P6 W3 D1 L2 W50.00% D16.67% L33.33% F15 A14
12    Jim Jefferies from 1995-96 to 2010-11 P23 W11 D7 L5 W47.83% D30.43% L21.74% F35 A29
13    David McLean from 1941-42 to 1950-51 P23 W11 D2 L10 W47.83% D8.70% L43.48% F37 A40
14    Alex MacDonald from 1983-84 to 1989-90 P28 W13 D12 L3 W46.43% D42.86% L10.71% F37 A24
15    Joe Jordan from 1990-91 to 1992-93 P11 W5 D6 L0 W45.45% D54.55% L0.00% F14 A6
16    Craig Levein from 2000-01 to 2004-05 P12 W5 D5 L2 W41.67% D41.67% L16.67% F21 A14
17    Committee from 1877-78 to 1900-01 P26 W10 D6 L10 W38.46% D23.08% L38.46% F44 A44
18    Caretaker from 1907-08 to 2005-06 P8 W3 D0 L5 W37.50% D0.00% L62.50% F16 A16
19    Robbie Neilson from 2014-15 to 2014-15 P4 W1 D2 L1 W25.00% D50.00% L25.00% F4 A5
20    Tommy McLean from 1994-95 to 1994-95 P4 W1 D0 L3 W25.00% D0.00% L75.00% F4 A6
21    William McCartney from 1919-20 to 1934-35 P30 W7 D13 L10 W23.33% D43.33% L33.33% F46 A43
22    William Esplin Ormond from 1978-79 to 1978-79 P5 W1 D2 L2 W20.00% D40.00% L40.00% F6 A7
23    Csaba Laszlo from 2008-09 to 2009-10 P7 W1 D4 L2 W14.29% D57.14% L28.57% F4 A4
24    John Harvey from 1966-67 to 1970-71 P8 W1 D4 L3 W12.50% D50.00% L37.50% F4 A8
25    Bobby Seith from 1970-71 to 1974-75 P9 W1 D2 L6 W11.11% D22.22% L66.67% F7 A19
26    John Hagart from 1974-75 to 1976-77 P9 W0 D4 L5 W0.00% D44.44% L55.56% F5 A13

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