Maroon Sailor Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 I know what I think happened that night but proving it is going to be nigh on impossible for the prosecution. Quote
Groot Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Can't see passed 12 years a slave. Wrong thread or is the judicial system in South Africa incredibly harsh Quote
Tazio Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Wrong thread or is the judicial system in South Africa incredibly harsh Quote
hughesie27 Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Wrong thread or is the judicial system in South Africa incredibly harsh He tees it up and it's in the hole! Quote
I P Knightley Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Can't see passed 12 years a slave. Good work! Quote
djf Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Wrong thread or is the judicial system in South Africa incredibly harsh Perfect. Quote
flecktimus Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 The world is is holding its breath with Putin marching over the Crimea and what's on BBC news 24 live,a murder Trail in far of South Africa. Quote
ToadKiller Dog Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Paddy power taking bets on the outcome of the trial , money back if he walks . Shameful money making off the death of a young woman . Scummy bookie Quote
hughesie27 Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Paddy power taking bets on the outcome of the trial , money back if he walks . Shameful money making off the death of a young woman . Scummy bookie Is that meant to be as tongue in cheek as it sounds!? Quote
hughesie27 Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 This defence lawyer is a bit of a dick eh? Quote
Regal Kingston Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Paddy power taking bets on the outcome of the trial , money back if he walks . Shameful money making off the death of a young woman . Scummy bookie That's dreadful. What a shame on her family. If I was the dad I would publicly stake a bet and make them look like the horrible *******s they are. I have a feeling he is going to walk. His defence team have had a lot of time to put together a ridiculous case to get him off. If he was black he probably would have been sentenced within a couple of days. The boy is a murderer simple as that. He is going to be the next OJ. Quote
Beats Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Paddy power taking bets on the outcome of the trial , money back if he walks . Shameful money making off the death of a young woman . Scummy bookie Quote
Regal Kingston Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) The white OJ. Edited March 3, 2014 by Regal Kingston Quote
hughesie27 Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Question from defence to neighbour: Could there have been shots fired before you woke up? Answer from neighbour: I heard four gun shots after I woke up. The court has confirmed that there were only 4 gun shots fired. Defence: But you are not answering my question. Could there have been gun shots before you woke up. He was following this line of questioning to imply that it may not have been gun shots she heard, but in fact the whacking of a cricket bat on the bathroom door... Edited March 3, 2014 by hughesie27 Quote
Maroon Sailor Posted March 3, 2014 Author Posted March 3, 2014 Defence lawyer doing what he's paid for. Trying to undermine the witness by confusing the crap out of them. Quote
Maroon Sailor Posted March 3, 2014 Author Posted March 3, 2014 Why is he asking her questions about what her husband thought he heard that night ? How about asking him directly ?! Quote
Ray Gin Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 I have a feeling he is going to walk. Not a chance. Doesn't have a leg to stand on. Quote
Ray Gin Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Defence lawyer doing what he's paid for. Trying to undermine the witness by confusing the crap out of them. The Chewbacca defence coming up soon. Quote
Mikey1874 Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Sky South African lawyer expert saying what first witness saying not being translated properly from Afrikaans to English though she was speaking English just before the photocopying break. Says he thinks she is credible. Quote
Guest C00l K1d Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 They keep calling him the bladerunner and its like theyre trying to turn it into some serial killer nickname Quote
Cade Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 He's guilty as feck, his story has been a laughable tale since he first came out with it. Neighbour today saying she heard arguing for over a hour before the gunshots. Neighbour yesterday saying she heard two shots then screams then two more shots. He'll maybe get off because he's a famous white bloke. The problem with SA justice is that there is no jury, it's all up to the Judge. Quote
ManxandCapeTownJambo Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 He's guilty as feck, his story has been a laughable tale since he first came out with it. Neighbour today saying she heard arguing for over a hour before the gunshots. Neighbour yesterday saying she heard two shots then screams then two more shots. He'll maybe get off because he's a famous white bloke. The problem with SA justice is that there is no jury, it's all up to the Judge. Being a famous white bloke won't help him Quote
Mikey1874 Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 He's guilty as feck, his story has been a laughable tale since he first came out with it. Neighbour today saying she heard arguing for over a hour before the gunshots. Neighbour yesterday saying she heard two shots then screams then two more shots. He'll maybe get off because he's a famous white bloke. The problem with SA justice is that there is no jury, it's all up to the Judge. Yeah. Already evidence from witnesses that they were arguing not long before she was shot which was denied by him. Did he think no neighbours would come forward? Interesting trial and the reaction in South Africa. Quote
moogsy Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 The way things are in South Africa right now I would be very surprised if being white would be of any benefit to him whatsoever. If anything the opposite would apply. Quote
dobmisterdobster Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Paddy power taking bets on the outcome of the trial , money back if he walks . Shameful money making off the death of a young woman . Scummy bookie Disgusting. What an awful, detestable, loathsome way to draw attention to their shitey little betting website. Edited March 5, 2014 by dobmisterdobster Quote
Ray Gin Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 That is pretty low even for a betting company. Quote
Templeton Peck Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Even the wording of it is in pretty poor taste. Thought Paddypower would have learned their lesson after getting their knuckles wrapped for financing Dennis Rodmans North Korea trips. Quote
2NaFish Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Disgusting. What an awful, detestable, loathsome way to draw attention to their shitey little betting website. Is it any different to a newspaper reporting the story and selling copies off the back of it? Both are making money off of misery essentially. This is horribly, horribly crass obviously but the principle is the same. Quote
Chris Benoit Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 ******* hell I thought the whole money back if he walks thing was a joke Quote
Maroon Sailor Posted March 5, 2014 Author Posted March 5, 2014 ******* hell I thought the whole money back if he walks thing was a joke It is ! Quote
PortyJambo Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Witness today, a professional boxer, said he shot a gun in a restaurant previously and asked the owner to take the blame. The prosecution's obviously trying to point out he was a bit trigger happy even before shooting his girlfriend. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26445206 Quote
Maroon Sailor Posted March 5, 2014 Author Posted March 5, 2014 Witness today, a professional boxer, said he shot a gun in a restaurant previously and asked the owner to take the blame. The prosecution's obviously trying to point out he was a bit trigger happy even before shooting his girlfriend. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26445206 From that BBC article " The 27-year-old double amputee denies intentionally killing her, saying he mistook her for an intruder. " Yeah she looks the spitting image of a locked toilet door Quote
Cade Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Oscar's story: He got woken up by noises coming from the bathroom. The bird wasn't in bed. He then assumes that a young black man has broken into the bathroom through the window. He takes the time to attach his legs, then grabs his gun from the bedside table and fires 4 shots through the bathroom door. He then opens the door to find that he hadn't just killed a home invading black youth but his girlfriend who was taking a pish. Nice story Oscar. Quote
Guest C00l K1d Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Oscar's story: He got woken up by noises coming from the bathroom. The bird wasn't in bed. He then assumes that a young black man has broken into the bathroom through the window. He takes the time to attach his legs, then grabs his gun from the bedside table and fires 4 shots through the bathroom door. He then opens the door to find that he hadn't just killed a home invading black youth but his girlfriend who was taking a pish. Nice story Oscar. His story does sound like shite. But i don't get why someone as well known as him would just go killing his girlfriend as blatant as that. Quote
PortyJambo Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 ASA have told Paddy Power to withdraw the ad pending the outcome of their investigation of it due to the complaints received. http://www.asa.org.uk/News-resources/Media-Centre/2014/ASA-withdraws-Paddy-Power-national-press-advertisement.aspx Quote
Currahee! Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Oscar's story: He got woken up by noises coming from the bathroom. The bird wasn't in bed. He then assumes that a young black man has broken into the bathroom through the window. He takes the time to attach his legs, then grabs his gun from the bedside table and fires 4 shots through the bathroom door. He then opens the door to find that he hadn't just killed a home invading black youth but his girlfriend who was taking a pish. Nice story Oscar. Its a terrible story imo. I've got a theory on what happened. The 2 of them have been having a row and he's chased her to the toilet holding the gun. He's fired shots at the door to scare her thinking the door will hold the bullets and sadly it didn't. Just my reckoning on what's happened. Quote
jambovambo Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Its a terrible story imo. I've got a theory on what happened. The 2 of them have been having a row and he's chased her to the toilet holding the gun. He's fired shots at the door to scare her thinking the door will hold the bullets and sadly it didn't. Just my reckoning on what's happened. Very unlucky to hit her 3 times out of 4, then ... Quote
cosanostra Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 He's going to be found guilty and he looks guilty as sin. As Moogsy said, being white can make life more difficult in South Africa rather than easier. He'll be going away for a long time I'd expect. Quote
Peebo Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 His story does sound like shite. But i don't get why someone as well known as him would just go killing his girlfriend as blatant as that. Would you understand it if he wasn't famous?!? Quote
Guest C00l K1d Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Would you understand it if he wasn't famous?!? Well someone who wasn't unknown and no one knew who's house his belonged too probably would have a better chance of not getting arrested for it. I assume everyone knows in SA who oscar pistorious is, and the folk who live around about him know where he lives. I don't think murder is alright at all.. if that's what you're trying to imply. Quote
Peebo Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Well someone who wasn't unknown and no one knew who's house his belonged too probably would have a better chance of not getting arrested for it. I assume everyone knows in SA who oscar pistorious is, and the folk who live around about him know where he lives. I don't think murder is alright at all.. if that's what you're trying to imply. Not turning to imply anything. I'm just interested in why it would have been more understandable if he wasn't famous. It's still not clear what happened, but it sounds like it was probably more "heat of the moment" decision making...and one where someone's chances of getting arrested may not have come into the thought process. But then, if he did do it, I won't even begin to try and understand how he could have, for reasons other than him thinking that he could have got away with it. Edited March 6, 2014 by Peebo Quote
Guest C00l K1d Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Not turning to imply anything. I'm just interested in why it would have been more understandable if he wasn't famous. It's still not clear what happened, but it sounds like it was probably more "heat of the moment" decision making...and one where someone's chances of getting arrested may not have come into the thought process. But then, if he did do it, I won't even begin to try and understand how he could have, for reasons other than him thinking that he could have got away with it. Maybe so.. but surely he would be innocent of a premeditated murder charge then, if it was a heat of the moment thing? I'm not sure what i think really TBH. Quote
Mikey1874 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 His story does sound like shite. But i don't get why someone as well known as him would just go killing his girlfriend as blatant as that. Could just be that OP is prone to extreme anger and lost control of himself. Think prosecution will try to show this. Quote
Maroon Sailor Posted March 6, 2014 Author Posted March 6, 2014 Maybe so.. but surely he would be innocent of a premeditated murder charge then, if it was a heat of the moment thing? I'm not sure what i think really TBH. Premeditated imo He didn't see anyone so why instantly think it was an intruder when he knew his girlfriend was in the house with him ? Why not sound some warning shots ( if he was so intent on using his gun ) in to the roof to scare off any intruder or even just threaten them verbally that he had a gun and is not afraid to use it ? Why not wait until the person came out of the toilet ? Quote
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Can't understand why sky news are giving it such heavy coverage. Quote
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