Alba gu Brath Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 It is embarrassing this day in age that anyone is singing that stuff but lets no pretend the majority of soldiers are all like 'Ned Flanders' from the Simspons. Most of these squaddies are exactly the type of person i would expect to see at ibrox singing this shite, i just thought they (or their superiors) would have the basic common sense to keep a lid on it while they're in uniform infront of folk who're going to take videos. Their superiors were in the directors' box and probably oblivious to it. Could you imagine the uproar if squaddies did this in England but the targets were Muslims and the scarves said BNP or EDL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 What do you do for a living? Driver of the easily offended bus? No he's just no a bigot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boys Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 did the scarf demand religious purity for west lothian? thought not. cheers. Fair point about the scarf. The songs were pretty much the same as that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Their superiors were in the directors' box and probably oblivious to it. Could you imagine the uproar if squaddies did this in England but the targets were Muslims and the scarves said BNP or EDL? They should've been spoken to before going on though, anyone could've seen that kind of reaction from the rangers fans coming. I hardly believe the only thing on Rangers agenda was to promote the backing of our troops either, they knew exactly what they were doing pandering to the troubles in ireland obsessed arseholes. I respect soldiers for the service they provide but as people, the majority of them seem like arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hearts Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Looks to me like you're the one getting offended by folk having the audacity to criticise soldiers. Offended by what some sad folk say on JKB? Good one. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Fair point about the scarf. The songs were pretty much the same as that day. the sash, bobby sands and derrys walls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 the sash, bobby sands and derrys walls? Iirc the only remotely controversial song sung at the time was rule britannia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 What do you do for a living? Driver of the easily offended bus? I work in an art gallery since you ask. What do you do? Stoke the fires on the condoning bigotry so long as its from someone in a uniform hovercraft? What's the pension like with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boys Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I seem to remember most of their book being sung ? It was a while ago though so I may well be wrong in which case my whole input into this thread is a load of rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hearts Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I work in an art gallery since you ask. What do you do? Stoke the fires on the condoning bigotry so long as its from someone in a uniform hovercraft? What's the pension like with that? Oooft. Dangerous. Some of these art luvvies are natural born killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Seriously? What do you do for a living? Does your job call upon you to put your life on the line? I've known plenty of soldiers in my time. Many have been great guys, whereas a fairly large number have been sociopaths who signed up to the army because they couldn't get a job elsewhere and liked the fact that they'd get to use guns. They chose their job, and are paid for it. They also aren't currently 'protecting our freedoms' in any meaningful sense. A lot of people sign up when young and daft, and have to see and go through things that I certainly hope I'll never have to. That doesn't necessarily make them all heroes or even pleasant people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The only soldier I know done time for being involved in the death of someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Oooft. Dangerous. Some of these art luvvies are natural born killers. So the number of murderers in your workplace has a correlation with being correct? I did not know that. If so, tom hanks in the green mile must've been shit hot at pub quizzes. PS. luvvie refers to an actor, not an artist. I guess that means someone at your work isnt actually a murderer. But who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The only soldier I know done time for being involved in the death of someone Done it heroically though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Have you watched it? Or did you stop at the 'We Are the People' bit? Or do you actually agree with the Hun songs and behaviour of paid service personnel indulging in such nonsense? You got me, I can no longer keep up this facade of not giving two shits about a bunch of pissed up squaddie Rangers fans jumping around and generally making dicks of themselves. FWIW, I watched the full thing and still don't give a shit, an arsehole Rangers fan is the same as an arsehole Hearts fan, putting on a uniform doesn't give them a sainthood, but I also don't agree with you trying to turn everything into a "look how bad the unionists are" thread. We all know your politics, and are sick and tired of hearing about them. And as for me believing in they songs, aye, you got me again, I play the big drum in the local flute band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondejamtart Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 No, but the job of a soldier now is a choice and IMO should not be compared to WWI and II where it was not a choice. Yes, of course it is a choice and I don't think anyone is comparing it to WWI or WWII, and yes, of course there are squaddies who are a***holes - same as in any other walk of life - no-one is denying that, but I'd like to see some of those posting on this thread having the guts to go out to Afghanistan, for instance. Some of those at Ibrox yesterday have only recently returned from the sands, remember. And there are Jambos out there right now too, let's not forget - my 18-year-old son among them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Didn't sevco do poppy card displays? Fireworks and flames next I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 A lot of people sign up when young and daft, and have to see and go through things that I certainly hope I'll never have to. That doesn't necessarily make them all heroes or even pleasant people. That's JKB for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yes, of course it is a choice and I don't think anyone is comparing it to WWI or WWII, and yes, of course there are squaddies who are a***holes - same as in any other walk of life - no-one is denying that, but I'd like to see some of those posting on this thread having the guts to go out to Afghanistan, for instance. Some of those at Ibrox yesterday have only recently returned from the sands, remember. And there are Jambos out there right now too, let's not forget - my 18-year-old son among them! No thanks, defending Afghan opium crops from falling into Al Qaeda hands doesn't really strike me as worth losing limbs or dying for, nor is is a noble or worthwhile cause that protects anyone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yes, of course it is a choice and I don't think anyone is comparing it to WWI or WWII, and yes, of course there are squaddies who are a***holes - same as in any other walk of life - no-one is denying that, but I'd like to see some of those posting on this thread having the guts to go out to Afghanistan, for instance. Some of those at Ibrox yesterday have only recently returned from the sands, remember. And there are Jambos out there right now too, let's not forget - my 18-year-old son among them! So you're basically saying you agree, but we're still all cowards anyway? Okay. Being brave and being a hero aren't the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondejamtart Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 So you're basically saying you agree, but we're still all cowards anyway? Okay. Being brave and being a hero aren't the same thing. I wouldn't expect you to agree with me anyway - and fail to see where I called anyone a coward. Still, when my brave son returns, he'll be a hero in my eyes even if not in yours, and [modedit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Ewing Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 That's JKB for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I wouldn't expect you to agree with me anyway - and fail to see where I called anyone a coward. Still, when my brave son returns, he'll be a hero in my eyes even if not in yours, and [modedit] I'm going to leave it here as even you don't seem to know what point you're meant to be making. Hope your son gets home okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Exactly. Some real cowards on this thread who think it's cool to diss our armed forces. Sad. Wonder if those boys would have the back of a Catholic comrade on the battlefield? Similarly if the scarf wanted the UK "black free" would that be ok because they are soldiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 These parades of military force at football matches are absolutely bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Cant imagine the North Korean army making a dogs dinner of duch a basic march at the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 My mate's in the RAF and was there yesterday. He was saying the squaddies were totally hammered before they went out on the pitch. He had a great time but I'll be sure to inform how sickened he's made the op, I'm sure he'll be devastated If he's a Rangers fan , I doubt it. But then I'm sure you're being "ironic". Can't wait for the seethe fest on JKB when the Green Brigade unfurl their next set of banners on the next poppy day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 exactly, anyone who doesn't applaud a soldier who'll sing the sash and happily pose for pictures with a scarf that demands Ulster be kept pure of fenians is a traitor. Everyone in a uniform is beyond reproach. They fight so that we have the liberty to think and do as we please - and if you dont use that liberty to mindlessly praise oor brave laddies you can go home. I especially applaud the ones that piss on their captives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 What a car crash of a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The only soldier I know done time for being involved in the death of someone very surprised you only know one soldier but maybe thats a sign of the timesseemed like half the school joined up when I was a lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 very surprised you only know one soldier but maybe thats a sign of the times seemed like half the school joined up when I was a lad I don't know any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Seriously? What do you do for a living? Does your job call upon you to put your life on the line? no but then i didnt voluntarily sign up for a job that involves 'putting my life on the line'. the folk in the armed forces VOLUNTEER to join the army, navy etc. if they die on duty then there should be no surprise, its part of the job. they also sign up for a job that involves KILLING PEOPLE. A group of folk hired to do the bidding and killing of politicians and ceo's of massive corporate machines. What heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin Delano Bluth Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 no but then i didnt voluntarily sign up for a job that involves 'putting my life on the line'. the folk in the armed forces VOLUNTEER to join the army, navy etc. if they die on duty then there should be no surprise, its part of the job. they also sign up for a job that involves KILLING PEOPLE. A group of folk hired to do the bidding and killing of politicians and ceo's of massive corporate machines. What heroes. Not just that, 'oor laddies' kill a lot more people than suffer casualties. Furthermore, often 'oor laddies' kill innocent people (so proud of oor brave heroes ) and don't have to suffer repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I know 1 sodger , hes a bit of a dick , will never be a hero of mine , hope this helps the debate ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougieHMFC Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/armed-forces-involvement-sectarian-rangers-protest-pr-disaster/6182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Rangers [sevco] have tried for years to try and eclipse the true and ultimate sacrifice of McCreas battalion and they NEVER will,we know it they know and the more they try the more emberrassing it becomes, they will NEVER be as proud of their lot as we are of our boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/armed-forces-involvement-sectarian-rangers-protest-pr-disaster/6182 This article sums it up perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 This article sums it up perfectly. Yup. It's totally inappropriate and cringeworthy and everything but bottom line is they shouldn't ever have been in that position. Or if they are, they should be properly briefed - some folk clearly need to be told that they shouldn't behave like arseholes, especially when in work uniform. Aside from that, it's not like we're not used to seeing Rangers embarrass themselves. Or Celtic either for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yup. It's totally inappropriate and cringeworthy and everything but bottom line is they shouldn't ever have been in that position. Or if they are, they should be properly briefed - some folk clearly need to be told that they shouldn't behave like arseholes, especially when in work uniform. Aside from that, it's not like we're not used to seeing Rangers embarrass themselves. Or Celtic either for that matter. Unfortunately I doubt we will ever see Scotlands' shame disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tams bird Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Where's the video ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Am I alone in thinking this Rangers branded Armed Forces Day was put on purely to distract their moronic fans from their on-going financial crisis and in the hope that, once again, their fans will focus on the 'Timmy/Kafflic/IRA loving' establishment that is apparently bashing their club, Their Boys and their Queen, rather than the potentially criminal actions of the Rangers board? It seems to have worked a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 That's JKB for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 but I defend the right of individuals to believe in anything they want. Do you really, you don't seem to be defending the rights of the soldiers above to believe in what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Ewing Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Do you really, you don't seem to be defending the rights of the soldiers above to believe in what they want. Not when they're in uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alba gu Brath Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 Do you really, you don't seem to be defending the rights of the soldiers above to believe in what they want. Of course not. With freedom and rights comes responsibilties. You have the responsibility not to infringe upon the freedom of others. How old are you? This handful of eejit squaddies did more to sully the Armed Forces than any bunch of Green Brigade loons. They're paid to know better. My dad and others of the older generation had more dignity in their wee finger than these welts have together. Anyway, I presume you condemn what happened? Well said Alex Thomson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The army investigating the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alba gu Brath Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 The army investigating the incident. The army are a bunch of leftie Tim Nats... Still, more trouble for Sevco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Wonder if those boys would have the back of a Catholic comrade on the battlefield? Similarly if the scarf wanted the UK "black free" would that be ok because they are soldiers? No they'd probably have shot him as soon as they found out he was a Catholic. If you think the scarf promotes ethnic cleansing you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 How dare you say that i'm trying to get some sort of one upmanship by using those brave boys. Don't judge me by your standards which are obviously very low. The point is, ever since their players didn't sign up that club as a whole has felt the need to TRY and prove they're British at every oppurtunity. Who's crass now? I think you need to take time out to reflect on what you post. Your post WAS crass and distasteful. God bestowed you with a brain and common sense - it would be VERY prudent to put both to good use going forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I think you need to take time out to reflect on what you post. Your post WAS crass and distasteful. God bestowed you with a brain and common sense - it would be VERY prudent to put both to good use going forwards. Whose God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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