Gregory House M.D. Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Sounds like Rooney had a 'mare tonight. As a Man U fan Bunter, would you be gutted if he left? I'd be pretty annoyed that SAF let it get this far. He's messed Rooney about all season so has no right to be pissed off that he can't capture his form. His nonsensical inclusions of Danny Welbeck over Rooney up front have been annoying enough. United need to get 2 new players. Gareth Bale and a CDM. Sadly, The Glazers will never attempt to compete with Madrid for Bale. United also need to keep Rooney and play him consistently at either CF or LW with Van Persie in the centre. Went a bit off the point- Yes I'd be gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I quite like West Ham but see all that bubbles shyte? Ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I'd be pretty annoyed that SAF let it get this far. He's messed Rooney about all season so has no right to be pissed off that he can't capture his form. His nonsensical inclusions of Danny Welbeck over Rooney up front have been annoying enough. United need to get 2 new players. Gareth Bale and a CDM. Sadly, The Glazers will never attempt to compete with Madrid for Bale. United also need to keep Rooney and play him consistently at either CF or LW with Van Persie in the centre. Went a bit off the point- Yes I'd be gutted. Well you have always got the Hearts to fall back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 What's the deal with The Fresh Prince of Bel Air getting a game ahead of him all the time?? From what I have seen of Wellbeck he just runs fast a lot, but doesn't look anywhere near as good as Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I quite like West Ham but see all that bubbles shyte? Ffs. Yea it's pretty shit! Not quite as bad as Hull City's "you're getting mauled by the tigers chant" :wow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumelzier Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 What's the deal with The Fresh Prince of Bel Air getting a game ahead of him all the time?? From what I have seen of Wellbeck he just runs fast a lot, but doesn't look anywhere near as good as Rooney. tbf, he hasn't needed to play Rooney to keep/protect their lead in the EPL, if he was playing catch-up Rooney would have played much more, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi123 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 What's the deal with The Fresh Prince of Bel Air getting a game ahead of him all the time?? From what I have seen of Wellbeck he just runs fast a lot, but doesn't look anywhere near as good as Rooney. He is never a top 4 EPL team player in his life, and how he plays for englsnd just shows what type of manager hodgson is,wellbeck wil b playing for sunderland or fulham in a few years, nap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hammers legend Brooking referring to West Ham as they - what's all that about Trev ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Went a bit off the point- Yes I'd be gutted. Why, you specifically said you aren't a Man U fan Bobo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Yea it's pretty shit! Not quite as bad as Hull City's "you're getting mauled by the tigers chant" :wow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertracoon Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 WHY do people keep posting youtube links on the mobile site!?!?!? I can't watch them on my computer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 WHY do people keep posting youtube links on the mobile site!?!?!? I can't watch them on my computer In the link hover your pointer over the word Desktop and it will take you to the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Been quite a strange season in some ways to think that this Man United team has had the title practically wrapped up for some time now. This isn't a great United team at all. Defensively, pretty woeful. Midfield isn't as strong as it looks on paper. If you even class it as a strong midfield at all. Up front, doing well but still not perfect. The midfield needs a new Paul Scholes. Kagawa has been a bit of a let down this season. Is Rooney the answer as a no. 10? Still to be convinced myself. A new winger or 2 is a must. Nani needs to go I think. Good player when he can be bothered. Valencia is hit or miss. Different class when on form. Absolutely shocking on a bad day. Ashley Young is pretty dire, nothing more needs to be said. Still fancy an attacking midfielder but in saying that, Nick Powell could be the answer in time to come. Midfield would be perfect with Carrick sitting as a deep lying playmaker. Rooney sitting behind the 2 strikers. 2 new wingers who can cut inside and cause real problems. RVP up front with Hernandez. Hernandez really is the key for United I think. Doesn't get as much first team football as he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Lots of blue seats on show at the Emptihad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Worst football chant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Worst football chant. Nope, Hibs have that one all sewn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Been quite a strange season in some ways to think that this Man United team has had the title practically wrapped up for some time now. This isn't a great United team at all. Defensively, pretty woeful. Midfield isn't as strong as it looks on paper. If you even class it as a strong midfield at all. Up front, doing well but still not perfect. The midfield needs a new Paul Scholes. Kagawa has been a bit of a let down this season. Is Rooney the answer as a no. 10? Still to be convinced myself. A new winger or 2 is a must. Nani needs to go I think. Good player when he can be bothered. Valencia is hit or miss. Different class when on form. Absolutely shocking on a bad day. Ashley Young is pretty dire, nothing more needs to be said. Still fancy an attacking midfielder but in saying that, Nick Powell could be the answer in time to come. Midfield would be perfect with Carrick sitting as a deep lying playmaker. Rooney sitting behind the 2 strikers. 2 new wingers who can cut inside and cause real problems. RVP up front with Hernandez. Hernandez really is the key for United I think. Doesn't get as much first team football as he deserves. The question is if they played Barca would they give them a better game than the last 2 times IMO. With Van Persie I think they would, the midfield always has a great work ethic whoevers in it. You're right about the defence, they could do with some new ideas there, there's players in there i'm not sure they can rely on against a good team in the Champions League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Been quite a strange season in some ways to think that this Man United team has had the title practically wrapped up for some time now. This isn't a great United team at all. Defensively, pretty woeful. Midfield isn't as strong as it looks on paper. If you even class it as a strong midfield at all. Up front, doing well but still not perfect. The midfield needs a new Paul Scholes. Kagawa has been a bit of a let down this season. Is Rooney the answer as a no. 10? Still to be convinced myself. A new winger or 2 is a must. Nani needs to go I think. Good player when he can be bothered. Valencia is hit or miss. Different class when on form. Absolutely shocking on a bad day. Ashley Young is pretty dire, nothing more needs to be said. Still fancy an attacking midfielder but in saying that, Nick Powell could be the answer in time to come. Midfield would be perfect with Carrick sitting as a deep lying playmaker. Rooney sitting behind the 2 strikers. 2 new wingers who can cut inside and cause real problems. RVP up front with Hernandez. Hernandez really is the key for United I think. Doesn't get as much first team football as he deserves. Good analysis of United. But looking at game as a whole I think West Ham showed similar traits to Everton last night and also why you need combination of both teams (west ham/everton and Arsenal/manu to be truly different class). Speaking as a huge Arsenal fan - fancy passing is great if you have some steel as well; look at invincibles with Bergkamp and Viera, Pires and Gilberto Silva, Henry and Keown. Also - dont know what others think but Im a big fan of Andy Carroll. If you take away his inflated transfer fee (which I think is holding him back) I think he is a great, old fashioned centre half and judging by tonight he puts a shift in in defence. Would really think he could be an integral part of a top six side either as lone striker who could get goals or simply as a target man who makes the knockdowns for others. A lot of the great teams have the two different forwards up front - Keegan/Toshack, Robertson/Clark, Shearer/Sheringham and I know 442 is a dying art but I still think there is a place if you get two strikers of differing ability playing in harmony. That's why I dont like Sutton and Ngoo and would prefer either/or with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Great performance from the Hammers, maybe a wee bit unlucky not to take 3 points. A win on Saturday (not be easy against Wigan) should ensure London's No.1 club will be playing EPL football again next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Why, you specifically said you aren't a Man U fan Bobo? No, I never. I said I lay no claim to being a supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 No, I never. I said I lay no claim to being a supporter. Splitting hairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sub goalie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Guillem Balague had tweeted last week he expects Falcao to move to United in the summer. Not overly convinced that should be the priority to strengthen if true, however, Falcao and RVP upfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Guillem Balague had tweeted last week he expects Falcao to move to United in the summer. Not overly convinced that should be the priority to strengthen if true, however, Falcao and RVP upfront Trying to buy another title then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Man U should have signed Sneijder when they had the chance. Cleverly and Anderson are gash. They miss Flecther massively and sadly I don't think he play again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 WE were outstanding last night. WE played them off the park. Then I awoke and realised it was a dream, WE, Heart of Midlothian were actually not playing. Quite bizzare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Guillem Balague had tweeted last week he expects Falcao to move to United in the summer. Not overly convinced that should be the priority to strengthen if true, however, Falcao and RVP upfront Would still need a strong CDM badly and probably another CM and a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sub goalie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Would still need a strong CDM badly and probably another CM and a CB. Kevin Strootman from PSV has also been linked, would also be a good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 WE were outstanding last night. WE played them off the park. Then I awoke and realised it was a dream, WE, Heart of Midlothian were actually not playing. Quite bizzare. I refer to West Ham as "we" because I get to see them more than I do Heart if Midlothian" these days. I probably care about them more too. For those reasons I make no apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Kevin Strootman from PSV has also been linked, would also be a good signing. That would be a very good signing. If both of them actually happened then United could play: De Gea Rafael Vidic Ferdinand EvraCarrick Strootman Kagawa Van Persie Falcao Rooney I don't care how weak that'd be defensively, it'd be ******* glorious Forgot about Kagawa there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Trying to buy another title then Isn't that what all teams try to do ? They spend to improve their team's chances. Just so happens that the likes of Man U, Chelsea etc are able to spend big enough to make winning titles possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Isn't that what all teams try to do ? They spend to improve their team's chances. Just so happens that the likes of Man U, Chelsea etc are able to spend big enough to make winning titles possible. No problem with that but the way fans of these clubs go on it's as if it's some kind of achievement winning titles with all their financial muscle. It was only a matter of time for Man City to win it Like to see a team living within their means do it - wouldn't mind their fans gloating about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 No problem with that but the way fans of these clubs go on it's as if it's some kind of achievement winning titles with all their financial muscle. It was only a matter of time for Man City to win it Like to see a team living within their means do it - wouldn't mind their fans gloating about it If the money is there, whether it's via Sky, gate receipts or some overseas billionaire with more money than sense then they are entitled to spend it. I certainly wouldn't feel we didn't deserve to be champions if someone decided to throw money at us. After all that is what Mr Romanov tried to do at first, bringing in Takis, Janny etc. Don't remember many complaints when we "bought" our way to the top of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If the money is there, whether it's via Sky, gate receipts or some overseas billionaire with more money than sense then they are entitled to spend it. I certainly wouldn't feel we didn't deserve to be champions if someone decided to throw money at us. After all that is what Mr Romanov tried to do at first, bringing in Takis, Janny etc. Don't remember many complaints when we "bought" our way to the top of the league Nowhere near the funds Man City and Chelsea have had thrown at them. They signed established world class players - a world away from what Romanov could hope to achieve with Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Been quite a strange season in some ways to think that this Man United team has had the title practically wrapped up for some time now. This isn't a great United team at all. Defensively, pretty woeful. Midfield isn't as strong as it looks on paper. If you even class it as a strong midfield at all. Up front, doing well but still not perfect. The midfield needs a new Paul Scholes. Kagawa has been a bit of a let down this season. Is Rooney the answer as a no. 10? Still to be convinced myself. A new winger or 2 is a must. Nani needs to go I think. Good player when he can be bothered. Valencia is hit or miss. Different class when on form. Absolutely shocking on a bad day. Ashley Young is pretty dire, nothing more needs to be said. Still fancy an attacking midfielder but in saying that, Nick Powell could be the answer in time to come. Midfield would be perfect with Carrick sitting as a deep lying playmaker. Rooney sitting behind the 2 strikers. 2 new wingers who can cut inside and cause real problems. RVP up front with Hernandez. Hernandez really is the key for United I think. Doesn't get as much first team football as he deserves. hernandez and rooney out, falcao and a winger coming in is what ive heard and my mole is usually quite reliable as far as utd are concerned, early days though..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 hernandez and rooney out, falcao and a winger coming in is what ive heard and my mole is usually quite reliable as far as utd are concerned, early days though..................... That would be an absolutely disastrous Transfer window for United. 2 injury prone strikers and Danny Welbeck left at the club. Both Strikers kicking the arse off of 30 as well. Unless the winger you refer to is world class United will drop considerably in quality with that window if SAF fails to buy a CDM for about the 6th window on the bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 No problem with that but the way fans of these clubs go on it's as if it's some kind of achievement winning titles with all their financial muscle. It was only a matter of time for Man City to win it Like to see a team living within their means do it - wouldn't mind their fans gloating about it United live well within their means. Haven't you seen their profits? Unlike a few I could mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 No problem with that but the way fans of these clubs go on it's as if it's some kind of achievement winning titles with all their financial muscle. It was only a matter of time for Man City to win it Like to see a team living within their means do it - wouldn't mind their fans gloating about it You'll see that in a months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 You'll see that in a months time. A debt free, profit making football club winning the league ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 A debt free football club winning the league ? Where did you say debt-free? You said living within their means. United do that and more. You might want to check what that debt actually is before making ridiculously stupid statements about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Where did you say debt-free? You said living within their means. United do that and more. You might want to check what that debt actually is before making ridiculously stupid statements about it. 366m. Second largest debt in the country. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2013/apr/18/premier-league-club-accounts-debt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc-jambo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm forever blowing bubbles pretty bubbles in the air they fly so high they reach the sky and like my dreams they fade and die Fortune's always hiding tho I look everywhere I'm forever blowing bubbles pretty bubbles in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 That would be an absolutely disastrous Transfer window for United. 2 injury prone strikers and Danny Welbeck left at the club. Both Strikers kicking the arse off of 30 as well. Unless the winger you refer to is world class United will drop considerably in quality with that window if SAF fails to buy a CDM for about the 6th window on the bounce. Who is the other injury prone striker not kicking the arse off 30, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Who is the other injury prone striker not kicking the arse off 30, please? The other? I'd be interested to know who they both are, I mean, one of them can't be RVP, an injury prone striker would have surely been injured at least once this season...unless I've failed to understand the meaning of injury prone of course. Assuming it is RVP and Falcao, you've got to wonder just how much you need to do to please some folk, 2 of the most prolific strikers in world football in the same team, "Disastrous transfer window". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The other? I'd be interested to know who they both are, I mean, one of them can't be RVP, an injury prone striker would have surely been injured at least once this season...unless I've failed to understand the meaning of injury prone of course. Assuming it is RVP and Falcao, you've got to wonder just how much you need to do to please some folk, 2 of the most prolific strikers in world football in the same team, "Disastrous transfer window". RVP has had a history of being injured a lot until the last 2 seasons and he is 30, so you can disagree but it at least makes sense. Just interested who the other injury prone striker who isn't kicking the arse off 30 is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm forever blowing bubbles pretty bubbles in the air they fly so high they reach the sky and like my dreams they fade and die Fortune's always hiding tho I look everywhere I'm forever blowing bubbles pretty bubbles in the air Is that a Michael Jackson song ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The other? I'd be interested to know who they both are, I mean, one of them can't be RVP, an injury prone striker would have surely been injured at least once this season...unless I've failed to understand the meaning of injury prone of course. Assuming it is RVP and Falcao, you've got to wonder just how much you need to do to please some folk, 2 of the most prolific strikers in world football in the same team, "Disastrous transfer window". Falcao has been injured a few times this season IIRC. Van Persie was extremely injury prone but hasn't been this season. Still, would you bank on both staying fit with only Welbeck as a replacement? I certainly wouldn't. Both get injured and United would be dropping points all over the shop with a bang average midfield and an aging defence both with little quality to back them up. Lawson, I wasn't talking about how much it is. I was talking about being a debt that in no way involved making United a better team or benifitting United. Infact, that debt makes United worse than they could be because of interest payments. It's the Glazers debt, not Uniteds and it was ?800,000,000 only a couple of seasons back. It'll be gone soon enough while still making huge profits. So yes, United have spent well within their means to earn the success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Falcao has played 28 of the 31 La Liga matches this season, and has played a minimum of 35 games in every one of the 6 seasons he has played as a first team regular. Broken, likes He's also just turned 27, not even close to 30. Why do you just make it up, Bunter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 So - United may end up buying the most sought after striker on planet Earth. And if so, Bunter will complain about it and call it "disastrous". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Falcao has played 28 of the 31 La Liga matches this season, and has played a minimum of 35 games in every one of the 6 seasons he has played as a first team regular. Broken, likes He's also just turned 27, not even close to 30. Why do you just make it up, Bunter? Injured 3 times this season, injured for his countries WC qualifiers in 2011 as well as a couple of injuries for porto. Does it matter how major the injuries are? The fact remains you'd only have Welbeck as cover if he does get injured. If both got injured then United would be an extremely mediocre attacking side. The 30 thing, didn't know his birthday thought he was close to 28. So apologies. Is this like that time I "made up" Stevo missing open goals against Hibs Tam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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