scott_jambo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I thought I'd start another one since most players have one. I think he is going to get progressively and visibly worse as a player. Should really have a few more years in him as a centre half but could see him retiring or playing at a lower level in 2 years max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupid Sexy Flanders Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 First spell - useless without Pressley next to him. Now - useless without Zal. (Maybe "useless" is a bit harsh, but you know what I mean.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He is not a bad player, but I do think Zal is streets ahead of him and when Zal is not there, he is lost. He does not seem to be the best choice of captain, either, which is a shame as he was a good captain for Dundee Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He was shocking really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Moss Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Never was and never will be a dominant centre back. Without one next to him he looks exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam_Tart Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Why don't you and what seems a majority of people just give it a f****** rest? We are have had to deal with massive financial issues We have been HAMMERED with injuries all season to crucial players We have been forced to play youth players that needed bedded in, not thrown in like we've had to. We lost a league cup final with a seriously weakened team.. St Mirren were at full strength, it wasn't our day. 3 Scottish Cups in 14 years - Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Why don't you and what seems a majority of people just give it a f****** rest? We are have had to deal with massive financial issues We have been HAMMERED with injuries all season to crucial players We have been forced to play youth players that needed bedded in, not thrown in like we've had to. We lost a league cup final with a seriously weakened team.. St Mirren were at full strength, it wasn't our day. 3 Scottish Cups in 14 years - Move on. Do you understand the concept of football forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartofgold Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He's not the issue but as the only first choice player left in the back four he is exposed. McGowan, Grainger and Zal. Three out of four we have lost and despite their energy and raw talent two youngsters at fullback are always a risk. Webster was always going to be the glue in the back four not the ringmaster, as Zal's role is. Raw deal from you guys IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam_Tart Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Do you understand the concept of football forums? Do you understand the concept of supporting your club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He's not the issue but as the only first choice player left in the back four he is exposed. McGowan, Grainger and Zal. Three out of four we have lost and despite their energy and raw talent two youngsters at fullback are always a risk. Webster was always going to be the glue in the back four not the ringmaster, as Zal's role is. Raw deal from you guys IMHO I'd agree that he's being made to look worse than he is but at the same time, the OP is right - we can't rely on him for too much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Do you understand the concept of supporting your club? Yes. Unfortunately, certain people seem to confuse supporting the club with wearing blinkers. Like the person who told me yesterday that we shouldn't be discussing Locke's appointment until after the cup final. As if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckandcover Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I thought Wilson was worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysinourshadows Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He's really slow and far too soft and struggles against a striker with pace or strength. He'll be gone in the summer anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 awful awful post. Webster is a great CB with 2 scottish cups to prove that. Along with captaining the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam_Tart Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Yes. Unfortunately, certain people seem to confuse supporting the club with wearing blinkers. Like the ****** who told me yesterday that we shouldn't be discussing Locke's appointment until after the cup final. As if. I just thought our club had a bit more class than the green neighbours but jumping on here for 5 minutes would suggest that a vast majority don't. Webster has been brilliant in games this season. A partnership as good as his and Zal's is developed over a long period of time, Wilson and Webster, McHattie & McGowan included have been together for about 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Shin Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I actually thought he done well. As someone else said , he's got 3 youngsters playing in the back 4 , he can only cover so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 I just thought our club had a bit more class than the green neighbours but jumping on here for 5 minutes would suggest that a vast majority don't. Webster has been brilliant in games this season. A partnership as good as his and Zal's is developed over a long period of time, Wilson and Webster, McHattie & McGowan included have been together for about 5 minutes. Hearts will never owe Webster anything. I appreciate his efforts but he must be discarded as soon as he is of no use to us. He will never be deserving of special treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Yet again. Same as Danny Wilson. Very good player who had a bad game. It happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Would have McKay in his place for the next game, if for no other reason than to give Webster a boot up the arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam_Tart Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Hearts will never owe Webster anything. I appreciate his efforts but he must be discarded as soon as he is of no use to us. He will never be deserving of special treatment. What are you talking about? I'm not suggesting hearts owe him anything. Hearts fans need to stop embarrasing themselves with ridiculous comments that make you sound like Hibs fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Webby is still a fantastic defender. But what people are forgetting is that we've had horrific injuries - out of the first choice back four, 3 are fecked with long term injuries. That back 4 - grainger, webster, zal, hamill would be amongst the best in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Webby is still a fantastic defender. But what people are forgetting is that we've had horrific injuries - out of the first choice back four, 3 are fecked with long term injuries. That back 4 - grainger, webster, zal, hamill would be amongst the best in the league. Spot on. Let's see how any other SPL club would cope if they lost 2 right backs, a centre back and a left back for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Webby is still a fantastic defender. But what people are forgetting is that we've had horrific injuries - out of the first choice back four, 3 are fecked with long term injuries. That back 4 - grainger, webster, zal, hamill would be amongst the best in the league. That back 4 would have won us the cup yesterday. Webster needs a commanding centre back with him, if he doesn't have one he struggles. Still would walk in to any team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Not a captain. No leadership on the park exemplified by us coming out earlier for second half and not switching on until they had passed it round us and scored. They all take the blame but we need stronger leadership on the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He had a few slip ups but apart from that he was one of our better players imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapes Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Never a captain. But can't see who else in the team is either just now tbh. We miss Zal so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbo-selecta Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Big fan of Webby but very poor by his 'standard' yesterday; 1st goal: tried to play offside too far up park & got caught out 2nd goal: out of position & should have been in line of cross to stop ball getting to Thompson (Wilson also at fault) 3rd goal: sucked in to play & missed quick 1-2 (Wilson also at fault) Not like him but he was poor yesterday!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawtooth Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Thought he had an ok game, he was under every ball and has confidence, something that is lacking at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He's not had his best season, but to say he's been up against it is an understatement of the century. Grainger, Zaliukas, Hamill all long term injuries. Gowser sold. Kids making their debuts left, right and centre. Continuously having to chop and change the back four. Not sure who could have handled it any better if a guy deemed good enough to be the captain of Scotland can't? Unless Maldini fancies sticking on the boots again. It has just been a shanner off a season in every possible way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He's not had his best season, but to say he's been up against it is an understatement of the century. Grainger, Zaliukas, Hamill all long term injuries. Gowser sold. Kids making their debuts left, right and centre. Continuously having to chop and change the back four. Not sure who could have handled it any better if a guy deemed good enough to be the captain of Scotland can't? Unless Maldini fancies sticking on the boots again. It has just been a shanner off a season in every possible way. We all know he isn't really Scottish captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Two things on this thread Firstly its not that long ago Grainger was getting pelters - unfairly imho- to the point he reacted to a fan at Tynecastle Secondly if Webster wasn't captain who would be ? Without Zal we don't have a captain in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angerfist_Hearts Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 awful awful post. Webster is a great CB with 2 scottish cups to prove that. Along with captaining the national team. Spot on some people on here need to get to Tynie more often. Ngoo getting stick yea he had a bad game ppl saying he can't run no good first touch. Did People see him against st Johnstone all u day trippers would hav been watching the real game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Two things on this thread Firstly its not that long ago Grainger was getting pelters - unfairly imho- to the point he reacted to a fan at Tynecastle Secondly if Webster wasn't captain who would be ? Without Zal we don't have a captain in the team Fair point. Again a reflection on the dire nature of our squad that someone who isn't really captain "style" has to do it. Hindsight being a wonderful thing if we had kept Ryan he could have been captain but I suppose we needed the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flogel98 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 But, but, but Zal is a bombscare. Surely Webster must be better without bombscare next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rom?n Riquelme Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He's not had his best season, but to say he's been up against it is an understatement of the century. Grainger, Zaliukas, Hamill all long term injuries. Gowser sold. Kids making their debuts left, right and centre. Continuously having to chop and change the back four. Not sure who could have handled it any better if a guy deemed good enough to be the captain of Scotland can't? Unless Maldini fancies sticking on the boots again. It has just been a shanner off a season in every possible way. This. He's still a quality player. He's been left badly exposed by a shan team this season. Him and Zal both but they're an excellent partnership. Does nobody ever stop to think that Zal's best spell at Hearts has come since we re-signed Webster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 This. He's still a quality player. He's been left badly exposed by a shan team this season. Him and Zal both but they're an excellent partnership. Does nobody ever stop to think that Zal's best spell at Hearts has come since we re-signed Webster? Zal's looked good regardless of who's beside him these days. The derby at Tynie when he had McGowan beside him being a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rom?n Riquelme Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Zal's looked good regardless of who's beside him these days. The derby at Tynie when he had McGowan beside him being a prime example. That's one game though. Webster and Wilson looked great against St Johnstone. I really like Zal but I think a run of games without Webster wouldn't benefit him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Wasn't that long ago people were saying Webster was carrying Zal! I concede he's not had a great few months but blaming him FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 That's one game though. Webster and Wilson looked great against St Johnstone. I really like Zal but I think a run of games without Webster wouldn't benefit him at all. We'll never find out now sadly, but the stats bear my thoughts out. Without Zal we suffer badly, without Webster we've not suffered as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I just thought our club had a bit more class than the green neighbours but jumping on here for 5 minutes would suggest that a vast majority don't. Webster has been brilliant in games this season. A partnership as good as his and Zal's is developed over a long period of time, Wilson and Webster, McHattie & McGowan included have been together for about 5 minutes. I totally agree. The players as individuals have strengths and weaknesses, the best way to build to build on the strengths and mitigate the weaknesses is to play lots of games together, see what works and what is disastrous We have very rarely played the same back four for a consistent run all season, we have numerous players out injured and the replacements cannot always play in their preferred position. In these circumstances you can sometimes get away with it for a limited period but over time mistakes (costly ones at that) will no doubt creep in. Thanks to Dundee it looks like this is no relegation season so what our young players are getting in abundance is experience. There is no guarantee this will make tham unbeatable next season but you would expect there to be signs of improvement. I have frequently been frustrated this season but am relatively optimistic for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world_3 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 First spell - useless without Pressley next to him. Now - useless without Zal. Spot on. Without an intelligent player next to him to tell him what to do he's struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Spot on. Without an intelligent player next to him to tell him what to do he's struggling. You don't half talk **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Spot on. Without an intelligent player next to him to tell him what to do he's struggling. Couldn't disagree more. Webster is our best player. If anything it's him that tells Zal what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tynie chris Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Why don't you and what seems a majority of people just give it a f****** rest? We are have had to deal with massive financial issues We have been HAMMERED with injuries all season to crucial players We have been forced to play youth players that needed bedded in, not thrown in like we've had to. We lost a league cup final with a seriously weakened team.. St Mirren were at full strength, it wasn't our day. 3 Scottish Cups in 14 years - Move on. Here Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I don't think he's had his best season. But I still think he's been our POTY so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastonbury jambo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 he strolls a bit too much and can be slow to react to certain situations,he really should be stepping up to the mark as a scotland centre back but recently he has looked a bit lost....but who else would be captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Spot on. Without an intelligent player next to him to tell him what to do he's struggling. Lol what a load of shite, pity you didn't have a intelligent poster next to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world_3 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Lol what a load of shite, pity you didn't have a intelligent poster next to you. Pity Webster has only 2 passes in his repertoire - either a hoof up the field, or a passback. And limited positional sense without an intelligent player next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world_3 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 he strolls a bit too much and can be slow to react to certain situations,he really should be stepping up to the mark as a scotland centre back but recently he has looked a bit lost....but who else would be captain? He's recently looking a bit lost because Zaliukas isn't there to help him along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Webster is class, he wasn't great yesterday but then if you take out some of our best players(foundation of the team) you cant expect him to perform to his best without quality around him. One poor game doesn't make him a bad ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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