lost in space Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 7 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: She’s a snake of the highest order . Ruthless . She’s basically finished politically and dragged the SNP down with her . Well, at least that's good news for Ruth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 13 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Absolutely spot on AyrJambo. My own view is that the SNP are finished, however the demand for independence is not going away and that sooner rather than later Scotland will inevitably become independent. Not sure it works that way. For instance, Hibernian Football Club is not going away but sooner or later they are not going to be the big Edinburgh club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 15 minutes ago, lost in space said: Well, at least that's good news for Ruth. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Ok which JKB er is this ? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 52 minutes ago, lost in space said: Not sure it works that way. For instance, Hibernian Football Club is not going away but sooner or later they are not going to be the big Edinburgh club. There are a lot of parallels between the SNP / Independence movement and Hibernian Football Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 51 minutes ago, lost in space said: Not sure it works that way. For instance, Hibernian Football Club is not going away but sooner or later they are not going to be the big Edinburgh club. Independence support Feb 2014 - 28% Sept 2014 - 45% April 2024 - 52% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 54 minutes ago, lost in space said: Not sure it works that way. For instance, Hibernian Football Club is not going away but sooner or later they are not going to be the big Edinburgh club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 8 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Ok which JKB er is this ? 😂 Guess that will be from Saturdays march . The one with about 1600 attending (including dugs) On that basis won't be anyone on here as they didn't attend, or so they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Just now, Lord Montpelier said: Guess that will be from Saturdays march . The one with about 1600 attending (including dugs) On that basis won't be anyone on here as they didn't attend, or so they say. Aye part time fans really ! Another similarly to the hobbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: @Diadora Van Basten No idea who the one with the badges is, but. Very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Bet a few on here have badge collections like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 30 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Bet a few on here have badge collections like that. Badge collections are Wally material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 39 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Bet a few on here have badge collections like that. Think he may have lost his 'free Palestine' badge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 7 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Think he may have lost his 'free Palestine' badge... And it would have been “ bingo “ with another badge , something about Sone groups rights being human rights ! Bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 10 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: Lad has a Scottish Greens badge. So it’s most likely one of your pals from the LGB(T) thread. What pals ! 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Libertarian said: Independence support Feb 2014 - 28% Sept 2014 - 45% April 2024 - 52% Yes, I was surprised at that poll but heartened by the fact that only 39% would vote SNP. I know some people who voted YES, who still want Independence, but are going to vote Labour at the GE. Weird times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Bad news for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Aye part time fans really ! Another similarly to the hobbos What team do turncoats support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Libertarian said: Independence support Feb 2014 - 28% Sept 2014 - 45% April 2024 - 52% Going by the polls Scotland will be gaining independence just as Ukraine is surrendering it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 14 minutes ago, Ked said: What team do turncoats support? Grow up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Libertarian said: Absolutely spot on AyrJambo. My own view is that the SNP are finished, however the demand for independence is not going away and that sooner rather than later Scotland will inevitably become independent. Not a hope in hell that happens. Unlike the screaming minority on here, the silent majority won't let it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, Libertarian said: Independence support Feb 2014 - 28% Sept 2014 - 45% April 2024 - 52% Oh my, another nonsense poll. It's not going to happen. More chance of you declaring Ukraine is in right against Russia than Scotland being independent in next few decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Just now, Malinga the Swinga said: Oh my, another nonsense poll. It's not going to happen. More chance of you declaring Ukraine is in right against Russia than Scotland being independent in next few decades Another a load of bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, lost in space said: Yes, I was surprised at that poll but heartened by the fact that only 39% would vote SNP. I know some people who voted YES, who still want Independence, but are going to vote Labour at the GE. Weird times. Labour will win the British election, however when the electorate realise that they have only swapped one set of Tory's for another and nothing has changed or improved the pressure for independence will only increase. It won't be the SNP who deliver it though, they are finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 51 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Grow up 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You said indy support similar too hibs . What team do political turncoats support? You in the huff because of cantwell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, Ked said: 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You said indy support similar too hibs . What team do political turncoats support? You in the huff because of cantwell? I expected better from you as your a decent poster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 8 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Labour will win the British election, however when the electorate realise that they have only swapped one set of Tory's for another and nothing has changed or improved the pressure for independence will only increase. It won't be the SNP who deliver it though, they are finished. In terms of policy there may not be a huge change when Labour do win. However, I would expect less sleaze. Of course there will be some illegality,as with all parties. A more socialist UK gov, actually trying to "level up" society, may reduce (maybe only slightly) the Independence vote. I agree that it is unlikely SNP can now deliver. Difficult to see a new party rise from the ashes in the foreseeable future, to get the significant majority required for a referendum. Surely going to take 10 years before a new party could get to that stage. During that time, Labour have a real chance to persuade Scottish voters that they are the party for the future. Looking forward to GE and to 2026 Scottish election. It certainly isn't boring!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Gundermann said: Bad news for some. Sounds like great news to me. Whats the bad news/who is upset; have they massively jacked up the subsidies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Sounds like great news to me. Whats the bad news/who is upset; have they massively jacked up the subsidies? I’d love it if the Scottish Govt had more successes like that . Might convince me ri vote for Indy . Unfortunately one swallow does not make a summer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 38 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Labour will win the British election, however when the electorate realise that they have only swapped one set of Tory's for another and nothing has changed or improved the pressure for independence will only increase. It won't be the SNP who deliver it though, they are finished. Just realised after reading your latest Russian propaganda and now this; you're an Alba/Alex Salmond fanboy 😀😀. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 51 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I expected better from you as your a decent poster Ffs. I'm a full eh shite poster like anyone else Judy ya wee huffy!@#£. Cantwell ffs Judy. I never shouted it. But I thought it. And you started the pish about teams and politics. So man up ya wee fud. A love ye. So what team is a political turncoat in support of? Judy that wee prick cantwells a shite ride. Cos he's really gay . Is that acceptable? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ked said: Ffs. I'm a full eh shite poster like anyone else Judy ya wee huffy!@#£. Cantwell ffs Judy. I never shouted it. But I thought it. And you started the pish about teams and politics. So man up ya wee fud. A love ye. So what team is a political turncoat in support of? Judy that wee prick cantwells a shite ride. Cos he's really gay . Is that acceptable? 😄 I never started the analogy about teams and politics . The rest of your posting is gobbly **** 👍😂no bother Edited April 22 by JudyJudyJudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I never started the analogy about teams and politics . The rest of your posting is gobbly **** . 👍😂no bother Aye ye fekin did. Like hobos part time indy supporters you said. Anyway beat it ya annoying snowflake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, Ked said: Aye ye fekin did. Like hobos part time indy supporters you said. Anyway beat it ya annoying snowflake Your very moody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, XB52 said: Just realised after reading your latest Russian propaganda and now this; you're an Alba/Alex Salmond fanboy 😀😀. Libertarian. Keep up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 34 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Your very moody He's been in a major grump since the Magpie got nicked again for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: He's been in a major grump since the Magpie got nicked again for some reason. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Ked said: Ffs. I'm a full eh shite poster like anyone else Judy ya wee huffy!@#£. Cantwell ffs Judy. I never shouted it. But I thought it. And you started the pish about teams and politics. So man up ya wee fud. A love ye. So what team is a political turncoat in support of? Judy that wee prick cantwells a shite ride. Cos he's really gay . Is that acceptable? 😄 For your own good, step back from the internet before you have a full breakdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehcaley Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Ked said: Ffs. I'm a full eh shite poster like anyone else Judy ya wee huffy!@#£. Cantwell ffs Judy. I never shouted it. But I thought it. And you started the pish about teams and politics. So man up ya wee fud. A love ye. So what team is a political turncoat in support of? Judy that wee prick cantwells a shite ride. Cos he's really gay . Is that acceptable? 😄 Do you know where to go for help?Stay safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Jim_Duncan said: 34 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: For your own good, step back from the internet before you have a full breakdown. 23 minutes ago, ehcaley said: Do you know where to go for help?Stay safe. Im Glad it’s not just me who couldn’t make any sense of that ! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Libertarian said: Labour will win the British election, however when the electorate realise that they have only swapped one set of Tory's for another and nothing has changed or improved the pressure for independence will only increase. It won't be the SNP who deliver it though, they are finished. Depends if the SNP change their leadership. Remove the Sturgeonistas and they may just get some traction. Focus on "the day job", be a bit more pragmatic etc. It's pretty clear that the SNP is/was under complete control of the Mundell's and their acolytes, but there may be a new breed to take over. Totally get your point regards labour and from a Scottish perspective, should they win the GE, they have two years before the Scottish elections so need to do a decent job or lose any faith up here. That said, I think the electorate is more nuanced than they are given credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Jim_Duncan said: 😅 Appreciated my good man. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 15 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Im Glad it’s not just me who couldn’t make any sense of that ! 😂 Me either . I'm in the against you gang for the foreseeable btw. I do not tolerate snowflakes. Your face is noted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said: For your own good, step back from the internet before you have a full breakdown. There's really not a lot to you is there? No silly crack. Just banal loyalty to a load eh shit. 52 minutes ago, ehcaley said: Do you know where to go for help?Stay safe. You're just daft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said: For your own good, step back from the internet before you have a full breakdown. My previous comment was untrue and uncalled for . Wee bite back that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 55 minutes ago, ehcaley said: Do you know where to go for help?Stay safe. Unfortunately you are daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrJambo Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 7 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Aye part time fans really ! Another similarly to the hobbos 3 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I never started the analogy about teams and politics . The rest of your posting is gobbly **** 👍😂no bother Ked is right You did as shown above 5 hours ago, Libertarian said: Labour will win the British election, however when the electorate realise that they have only swapped one set of Tory's for another and nothing has changed or improved the pressure for independence will only increase. It won't be the SNP who deliver it though, they are finished. Agreed and as usual Scotland will get the government that England votes for Even when the penny drops about Labour there is still a monumental task in Scotland to address the colonial mindset so prevalent after centuries of pro UK propaganda The country has been split on independence roughly 50 - 50 (give or take 3 or 4 either way) for the last ten years, and still is, so the idea that the current SNP shitshow means that support for independence will somehow melt away because of Humza Halfwit is one that is really only peddled by some of the unionist zoomers on here! However you are right about the SNP It's looking unlikely that they can undo the damage wrought by the Sturrels and the Greens without root and branch (literally) reform and I can't see that happening in time for an SP election in 2026 and in any case they are no longer pursuing independence - they are pursuing the marketing of independence as an electoral strategy to stay in power Edited April 22 by AyrJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 6 hours ago, AyrJambo said: Ked is right You did as shown above Agreed and as usual Scotland will get the government that England votes for Even when the penny drops about Labour there is still a monumental task in Scotland to address the colonial mindset so prevalent after centuries of pro UK propaganda The country has been split on independence roughly 50 - 50 (give or take 3 or 4 either way) for the last ten years, and still is, so the idea that the current SNP shitshow means that support for independence will somehow melt away because of Humza Halfwit is one that is really only peddled by some of the unionist zoomers on here! However you are right about the SNP It's looking unlikely that they can undo the damage wrought by the Sturrels and the Greens without root and branch (literally) reform and I can't see that happening in time for an SP election in 2026 and in any case they are no longer pursuing independence - they are pursuing the marketing of independence as an electoral strategy to stay in power Scottish independence is not only the best way of changing Scotland, but actually challenging the nature of UK politics & the way that it works at present throughout these islands. Scottish independence is in fact a revolution which will sweep away the rotting UK establishment which is seeing growing poverty and inequality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 13 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Scottish independence is not only the best way of changing Scotland, but actually challenging the nature of UK politics & the way that it works at present throughout these islands. Scottish independence is in fact a revolution which will sweep away the rotting UK establishment which is seeing growing poverty and inequality If its a revolution its the most inept one in world history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallPaul Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 16 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Scottish independence is not only the best way of changing Scotland, but actually challenging the nature of UK politics & the way that it works at present throughout these islands. Scottish independence is in fact a revolution which will sweep away the rotting UK establishment which is seeing growing poverty and inequality Can you explain why Scotland becoming economically poorer in the unlikely event of independence help reduce poverty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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