AyrJambo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 8 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: I'm unaware of her alleged negligence. She's still an intelligent woman regardless of her shortcomings. She's also a fool! A paradox but then again she's human. Professional Misconduct rather than negligence it appears... https://grousebeater.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/sturgeons-skeleton/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Explains a lot It doesn't really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 minutes ago, AyrJambo said: Professional Misconduct rather than negligence it appears... https://grousebeater.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/sturgeons-skeleton/ Just skimmed over that. Appears she was cleared. They like Alex Salmond though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 24 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: I'm unaware of her alleged negligence. She's still an intelligent woman regardless of her shortcomings. She's also a fool! A paradox but then again she's human. Evidence, pls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim_Duncan Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AyrJambo said: Joe Mangel? Edited April 19 by Jim_Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 9 minutes ago, AyrJambo said: Looks like a true blue toary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 12 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: Evidence, pls. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said: She's a lawyer. I'm sure her qualifications are better than you or I! Don't let your prejudice get in your way! If we are not lawyers then that's hardly a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said: If we are not lawyers then that's hardly a surprise. That take you all night to come up with that? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 7 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: That take you all night to come up with that? 😁 Scottish Political debate has sunk to its lowest ever ebb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 21 minutes ago, Cranston said: Scottish Political debate has sunk to its lowest ever ebb. Roxy doesn't debate. He just has a drink then comes on here and spouts nonsense. When he isn't inventing workmates from every corner of the world that ALL support his independence at all costs view. 😂 He doesn't even bother turning up to the marches. He wants independence but can't be arsed doing anything about it. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Roxy doesn't debate. He just has a drink then comes on here and spouts nonsense. When he isn't inventing workmates from every corner of the world that ALL support his independence at all costs view. 😂 He doesn't even bother turning up to the marches. He wants independence but can't be arsed doing anything about it. 😂 👍 I'm just blown away at the black hole that has been created by the Snp Greens. They have been a stain on our country. Despicable betrayal of our once long ago great reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 9 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Roxy doesn't debate. He just has a drink then comes on here and spouts nonsense. When he isn't inventing workmates from every corner of the world that ALL support his independence at all costs view. 😂 He doesn't even bother turning up to the marches. He wants independence but can't be arsed doing anything about it. 😂 Not invented anyone bud, why would I? Why would I march? Do you go on Orange Walks? I'm off to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 41 minutes ago, Cranston said: Scottish Political debate has sunk to its lowest ever ebb. That's all politics bud, especially in the UK! Be happy you're a contributor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 12 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Roxy doesn't debate. He just has a drink then comes on here and spouts nonsense. When he isn't inventing workmates from every corner of the world that ALL support his independence at all costs view. 😂 He doesn't even bother turning up to the marches. He wants independence but can't be arsed doing anything about it. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 4 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: She's on your side. Nutter like you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 14 hours ago, frankblack said: Patrick Harvey's face was tripping on Reporting Scotland last night. I do wonder if these creeps will walk and throw the SNP under a bus. STV news Scottish Greens to vote on whether to scrap Bute House Agreement with SNP in move that could see Patrick Harvie and Lorna Slater leave government. Yes please ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said: She's on your side. Nutter like you! Ive seen nats suggesting Pockle Pete has been in the pay of the British State all along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 6 hours ago, AyrJambo said: You're either confusing me with someone else or you haven't read or understood any of my previous posts on this or other threads I want an independent Scotland The SNP do not. They are a wholly devolutionist party now However they are registered as a political party, in Scotland, with the Electoral Commission The same cannot be said of the "Scottish" Labour Party. They are no more than an accounting unit of the Labour party A failed lawyer There was (allegedly) some professional negligence involved which saw her quickly leave the legal profession and enter professional politics Another who wants independence but has never voted SNP ? OK then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: STV news Scottish Greens to vote on whether to scrap Bute House Agreement with SNP in move that could see Patrick Harvie and Lorna Slater leave government. Yes please ! I'm sure everyone can agree that the Scottish Greens removing themselves from government can only be a good thing all round. Can't we ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 16 hours ago, Hagar the Horrible said: Well spent time and money wisely and be focused on the day job, but its as though they wanted everything to fail, just so they could blame WM and convince the electorate that all will be better under Indy, but nobody was fooled. As for labour they will be a one hit wonder, and Penny Mordaunt will be in afterwards, labour should be looking further after that But this labour old tories Appreciate the response but it's a word salad. What could the SNP have done to maximise Devo? The answer is nothing different policy wise. They're pishing about with pocket money and no ability to change any of the fundamental structural issues which are preventing the growth and inward investment you talk of. Same for whoever comes next. The mesmerising bit is that still today in 2024 there's Scottish people who think this is a great thing and that the economic terrorists in Westminster actually have Scotlands interests at heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Lord Montpelier said: I'm sure everyone can agree that the Scottish Greens removing themselves from government can only be a good thing all round. Can't we ? As someone who wants independence. Voted snp Voted greens. Its difficult to not agree. Both need a bloodied nose from the electorate. The greens need to remember that their vote comes mostly as a 2nd choice. From people who I believe want environmental stuff front and centre. Instead...... Back on track please . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: STV news Scottish Greens to vote on whether to scrap Bute House Agreement with SNP in move that could see Patrick Harvie and Lorna Slater leave government. Yes please ! Both are as good as Two men/women missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: Appreciate the response but it's a word salad. What could the SNP have done to maximise Devo? The answer is nothing different policy wise. They're pishing about with pocket money and no ability to change any of the fundamental structural issues which are preventing the growth and inward investment you talk of. Same for whoever comes next. The mesmerising bit is that still today in 2024 there's Scottish people who think this is a great thing and that the economic terrorists in Westminster actually have Scotlands interests at heart. Economic terrorism a bit strong but like you I find it bewildering the obvious signs of decline are favoured over the opportunity of independence and seats at top tables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Both are as good as Two men/women missing. Bit presumptuous mate. 2024 you bigot. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just now, Ked said: Bit presumptuous mate. 2024 you bigot. 😃 Point taken, you just never know with those two😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 38 minutes ago, Ked said: As someone who wants independence. Voted snp Voted greens. Its difficult to not agree. Both need a bloodied nose from the electorate. The greens need to remember that their vote comes mostly as a 2nd choice. From people who I believe want environmental stuff front and centre. Instead...... Back on track please . Agree with your point. The Scottish greens have take the country off track like you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 hours ago, Cranston said: This post very sadly, sums up the division that has been sewn, by the Independence movement. They view politics solely as a vehicle for Independence, instead of governing for all of the people of Scotland. Its irrelevant to them, how Scotland performs as a nation for all of the people. Where now for the Yes campaign, what about asking the question instead of - how the Snp Greens coalition will deliver on the bread and butter of fixing shattered subdued Scotland. I'd put the Yes campaign in the bin for now, and set about repairing the mess that Scotland has become under the Yes campaign. Regards your last paragraph, I think that's what the electorate are doing by shifting from SNP to labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Listened to this Dr Alf Baird chappie on Radio Scotland this morning which led me to the article below - sounds like he has an axe to grind but interesting nonetheless. Presume he's had run in's with the SNP? https://scottishleftreview.scot/scottish-ferries-catastrophe/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Appreciate the response but it's a word salad. What could the SNP have done to maximise Devo? The answer is nothing different policy wise. They're pishing about with pocket money and no ability to change any of the fundamental structural issues which are preventing the growth and inward investment you talk of. Same for whoever comes next. The mesmerising bit is that still today in 2024 there's Scottish people who think this is a great thing and that the economic terrorists in Westminster actually have Scotlands interests at heart. TBH I don’t think they have England’s interests at heart either. They’re only interested in further lining the pockets of the very wealthy. They also seem to have a particular contempt for the working-class and lower-middle class that keep voting them in. The last 15 years have been catastrophic for this country (U.K.-wide) it’s like we’re all living in the soap opera of the Tory Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ministryofdad Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Election year this year so all change or same old. Labour don't have a chance in Scotland or Wales so left with broken promises and a complete disregard for people who vote for them in. Sturgeon sails off into the sunset. Husband gets jailed for 18 months. A new merry a go round ensures. The real danger is the infiltration of migrants into island life. The British/ Christian overacceptance of welcoming all faiths into society when we all know reading history what happens. War is coming We have had it too good for too long. Wonder what will ignite the torch paper in the coming years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 4 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said: I'm sure everyone can agree that the Scottish Greens removing themselves from government can only be a good thing all round. Can't we ? I actually agree with this. I agree with the green climate policies but not the other stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Holyrood's finger-wagging control freaks are strangling Scotland with red tape and regulation, where every aspect of our lives is subject to intrusion by the state. Another good article by Britain's biggest selling newspaper. A plague on Scotland's new puritans | Daily Mail Online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AyrJambo Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 17 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said: Right now, you could make an argument for those points against your snp heroes as well First you make an assumption about which political party I support When I point out to you that nothing I have posted justifies your assumption... 4 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said: Another who wants independence but has never voted SNP ? OK then ...you then make another assumption about who I have or haven't voted for I have voted SNP in the past, was a former member and activist but saw the writing on the wall when Sturgeon failed to take advantage of the 2016 Brexit referendum result to push the case for independence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 9 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said: Not invented anyone bud, why would I? Why would I march? Do you go on Orange Walks? I'm off to bed. Why would you physically show support for a cause you say you support? Really? And why would I go on an orange walk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrJambo Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Japan Jambo said: Listened to this Dr Alf Baird chappie on Radio Scotland this morning which led me to the article below - sounds like he has an axe to grind but interesting nonetheless. Presume he's had run in's with the SNP? https://scottishleftreview.scot/scottish-ferries-catastrophe/ Alf Baird was, prior to his retirement in 2016, Professor of Maritime Business and Director of the Maritime Research Group at Edinburgh Napier University. He has a PhD in Strategic Management in Global Shipping. His specialist area of research and teaching is strategic management in maritime transport. His research activities encompass most of the world’s main shipping markets in Europe, Asia, Mid-East and North and Latin America, and Australasia. He has published more than 200 research articles and delivered over 150 conference papers. He is also interesting when writing on the constitution... https://salvo.scot/a-scottish-constitution/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 12 hours ago, Gizmo said: I'd rather we had an FM who based their outlook on intellect and utilitarianism, actually. I care little for either religion and would prefer a secular FM, but I do have concerns about Forbes's views on abortion (equated to slavery under that branch of Christianity) at a time when we need to protect women's bodily autonomy and establish safe buffer zones around abortion clinics. Humza has already backed this. In fairness, I do note that her stance is to follow the majority and direction of travel and not bring her religion into her politics, which addresses some fears but raises others. Despite those concerns I still believe she would be a better FM, however that red flag still exists. The only "wonder" here is wonderment at your latest attempt to insinuate something, in your usual snide manner. Laughable comments on Forbes while completely ignoring Humza's inability to separate his religious beliefs from his job. I'll leave you to wallow in your ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 9 hours ago, Cranston said: 👍 I'm just blown away at the black hole that has been created by the Snp Greens. They have been a stain on our country. Despicable betrayal of our once long ago great reputation. It's the both of them setting targets, never near making them but they don't bad an eyelid or resign. Snouts in the trough and it will take decades for any political party to fix the mess they are leaving. They are destroying Scotland instead of making it better, and it seems deliberate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 9 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Laughable comments on Forbes while completely ignoring Humza's inability to separate his religious beliefs from his job. I'll leave you to wallow in your ignorance. I'll admit my ignorance. I can see he is out of his depth as FM but how has he been unable to separate his religious beliefs from his job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 5 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said: I'm sure everyone can agree that the Scottish Greens removing themselves from government can only be a good thing all round. Can't we ? Yes😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 59 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Why would you physically show support for a cause you say you support? Really? And why would I go on an orange walk? I think you mean "why wouldn't I". I show my support by voting like most people and posting here! I'm not into marches, is that OK? I was joking about the Orange Walk as that moronic bunch are staunch unionists and believe in the union like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 6 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said: I'm sure everyone can agree that the Scottish Greens removing themselves from government can only be a good thing all round. Can't we ? It bi's the Irony that everyone was telling the SNP to divorce from the Toxic Greens. Bur the Greens to vote on doing a midnight flit while the Nats are in the pub trying to see how this sleeze can be swept unter the carpet. But it is just funny that the greens don't now want tarnished with the same brush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 hours ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Roxy doesn't debate. He just has a drink then comes on here and spouts nonsense. When he isn't inventing workmates from every corner of the world that ALL support his independence at all costs view. 😂 He doesn't even bother turning up to the marches. He wants independence but can't be arsed doing anything about it. 😂 😂😂😂think he had a few last night 8 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Ive seen nats suggesting Pockle Pete has been in the pay of the British State all along “ pockle Pete “ that’s a good yin 😂 6 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said: I'm sure everyone can agree that the Scottish Greens removing themselves from government can only be a good thing all round. Can't we ? Yes 1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Laughable comments on Forbes while completely ignoring Humza's inability to separate his religious beliefs from his job. I'll leave you to wallow in your ignorance. Yep . Hasn’t even attempted to address it . On his first day in Bute House Humza had a religious ceremony . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, AyrJambo said: First you make an assumption about which political party I support When I point out to you that nothing I have posted justifies your assumption... ...you then make another assumption about who I have or haven't voted for I have voted SNP in the past, was a former member and activist but saw the writing on the wall when Sturgeon failed to take advantage of the 2016 Brexit referendum result to push the case for independence Amazing how many nationalists have turned against the SNP and Sturgeon / Yousaf. After backing them to the hilt with their money and time. Am sure they won't make that mistake again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 17 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Amazing how many nationalists have turned against the SNP and Sturgeon / Yousaf. After backing them to the hilt with their money and time. Am sure they won't make that mistake again. and theres even one " agreeing " that Greens need removed as he doesnt agree with most of their policies when he has been shouting from the rooftops in support of many of their non environmental policies ....couldnt make it up really.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said: I think you mean "why wouldn't I". I show my support by voting like most people and posting here! I'm not into marches, is that OK? I was joking about the Orange Walk as that moronic bunch are staunch unionists and believe in the union like you. I have said many times I would prefer independence but I can't and won't vote for something without some form of detail. I do fully appreciate it's almost impossible to provide what I want. As such I am not prepared to risk the good lifestyle myself and family enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, FWJ said: TBH I don’t think they have England’s interests at heart either. They’re only interested in further lining the pockets of the very wealthy. Actually this is an excellent post but doesnt auger with their view that Westminster is ruining scotland and mainly scotland. Much better to say Scotland is suffering far more than England. I also recall and people correct me if im wrong the SNP were doing actually not too bad when they formed the initital Scot Govt in the mid 2000s but then it went pear shape after the Indy vote and even worse with their toxic coalition with the Greens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just now, Thunder and Lightning said: I have said many times I would prefer independence but I can't and won't vote for something without some form of detail. I do fully appreciate it's almost impossible to provide what I want. As such I am not prepared to risk the good lifestyle myself and family enjoy. Much the say reasons i wont. Plus i feel we are not too similar to English and Welsh and Northern Irish. They are like cousins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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