djf Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Currently 2-0 Villa vs Birmingham. Not looking good for McLeish. Coming up Sunderland vs Newcastle 13.30 (Sky) Man City vs Portsmouth 16.00 (Sky) Dundee Utd vs Hibs 14.00 (Setanta) Rangers vs St Johnstone 15.00 I'm going to put on three draws and Rangers I reckon. Should be decent games though. A chance to watch CG first of all and then Pompy should be well up for it in the race for fifth place As an aside, did anybody see the interview on SSN where the presenter asked "Yesterday was almost like a 3 pointer for Sunderland even though they were sitting on their arse". Made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Not looking good for McLeish. Excellent. I've had no time for that piece of filth since his outrageous "professional" foul on Sir John Colquhoun in April 1986. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destruction Derby Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 10 Quid Double Dundee Utd Sunderland 99 Quid Back, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Looking grim for McLeish. I wonder if Mcfadden has a get out clause in his contract ? Cant see him wanting to ply his trade in the Championship. Quite a few Premiership clubs you would imagine would be monotoring the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droid Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Looking grim for McLeish. I wonder if Mcfadden has a get out clause in his contract ? Cant see him wanting to ply his trade in the Championship. Quite a few Premiership clubs you would imagine would be monotoring the situation. think so too....didnt moyes come out reently and say it was a mistake in selling him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 think so too....didnt moyes come out reently and say it was a mistake in selling him? Not sure bud, was very surprised he was let go. Think it was more down to McFadden wanting more first team football though. Has looked the stand out player when he has played for Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I still can't believe McFadden left Everton to sign for Brum City. Hopefully a premiership team will come in for him if Brum do go down. McFadden will always be a hero of mine after the Parc de Princes and i'd like to see him playing in the top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 think so too....didnt moyes come out reently and say it was a mistake in selling him? Yep read the same thing in one of the papers. I think he thought he would have nicked the last champions league spot if they had kept him. 1-0 for the toon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 1-0 Newcastle Probably the best cross into the box i've seen all season and Owen finished brilliantly. Sunderland are playing that ginger idiot McShane at right back. One of the worst players in the premiership. Decent game so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Sunderland have picked mcshane madness skinned by owen for the goal,with mcshane in there defense will be about 3-0 to the toon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destruction Derby Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 GOD DAMM IT !!!! Why does Keane insist on playing this clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 1-0 Newcastle Probably the best cross into the box i've seen all season and Owen finished brilliantly. Sunderland are playing that ginger idiot McShane at right back. One of the worst players in the premiership. Decent game so far. ... has to be a relative of our very own Pat McShane from the 70s then - certainly sound similar ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 haha - McShane scores a comedy own goal but the ref had already blown the whistle. He is hapless clown of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Newcastle playing some nice stuff. Sunderland looking up for it also. One good save from Gordon, he could do nothing for the goal and he got a talking to from the ref about going mental when the ref gave a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Newcastle will have this wrapped up just shortly imo. Already Jones looks a lonely figure up front for Sunderland and if they want anything out the game they'll have to change something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil R Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 GOD DAMM IT !!!! Why does Keane insist on playing this clown. Two out of the regular back 4 are injured, so I'm guessing he is all that's left!! Could be a busy day for CG - had no chance with the goal, cracking cross and header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Newcastle will have this wrapped up just shortly imo. Already Jones looks a lonely figure up front for Sunderland and if they want anything out the game they'll have to change something. The Newcastle defence never looks comfortable though, they could easily slip up. I agree about Jones, he does look a bit isolated up front. He is good enough to make something from nothing but that doesn't look like happening so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondejamtart Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 McShane looks like a headless chicken - Sunderland fans baying for his blood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 The Newcastle defence never looks comfortable though, they could easily slip up. I agree about Jones, he does look a bit isolated up front. He is good enough to make something from nothing but that doesn't look like happening so far. They could but I think they've been a lot more solid recently? As it stands just now, I can't see Sunderland scoring, I can see Newcastle adding a couple though. Anyway, Got to dash. Away to the pub to watch football how it should be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 McShane is THE worst player in the premiership. He must give Roy Keane some great head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondejamtart Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 2-0 to Newcastle after a fairly dodgy penalty decision for handball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil R Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 That was a very harsh decision for the pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondejamtart Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Gordon almost saved it too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Yeah, definitely not a penalty. Gordon unlucky not to save it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Paul McShane must be a cousin of Kirk Broadfoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 All of those taking the cant out of the Toon and Kevin Keegan a few weeks ago are a bit quiet now eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 All of those taking the cant out of the Toon and Kevin Keegan a few weeks ago are a bit quiet now eh. Was thinking the very same D-McG, now where's that millfield laddie hiding?? 8 years since they beat the toon and King Kev maintains his 100% record in the derby !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 2-0 to Newcastle after a fairly dodgy penalty decision for handball. What was fairly dodgy about the penalty decision. Higgenbottom stopped Owen chipping the ball over him by using his arm. Intentional or not it was a definite penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 All of those taking the cant out of the Toon and Kevin Keegan a few weeks ago are a bit quiet now eh. Is Julio not still banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondejamtart Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 What was fairly dodgy about the penalty decision. Higgenbottom stopped Owen chipping the ball over him by using his arm. Intentional or not it was a definite penalty. Well, you would appear to be in the minority with that opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Well, you would appear to be in the minority with that opinion... Well why dont you say why you think it was a "dodgy" decision....? I am open to a debate on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 What was fairly dodgy about the penalty decision. Higgenbottom stopped Owen chipping the ball over him by using his arm. Intentional or not it was a definite penalty. I may be wrong but I always thought that by the laws of the game it is only handball if intentional and that that is the only criteria.If a hand hits the ball unintentionally then regardless of where the ball is going to end up it is not a free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I may be wrong but I always thought that by the laws of the game it is only handball if intentional and that that is the only criteria.If a hand hits the ball unintentionally then regardless of where the ball is going to end up it is not a free kick. It doesnt have to be intentional does it? That would mean if the ball was going in and someone on the line with their arms at their side stopped it going by standing there (even if it struck their arm) it wouldnt be a foul.... not sure that is correct. When Higgenbottom went down his arm was raised and stopped the ball from being dinked over him which would have presented Owen with a shooting opertunity. Thats the way the commentators interpreted it and I would tend to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 It doesnt have to be intentional does it? That would mean if the ball was going in and someone on the line with their arms at their side stopped it going by standing there (even if it struck their arm) it wouldnt be a foul.... not sure that is correct. When Higgenbottom went down his arm was raised and stopped the ball from being dinked over him which would have presented Owen with a shooting opertunity. Thats the way the commentators interpreted it and I would tend to agree. That's exactly what happened against the Huns when we beat them 1-0 under Burley. Neilsons arm blocked the ball going in and no penalty was given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 That's exactly what happened against the Huns when we beat them 1-0 under Burley. Neilsons arm blocked the ball going in and no penalty was given. Neilson has the refs in his back pocket though....therefore the exception that proves the rule? Alright pass the straws... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 It doesnt have to be intentional does it? That would mean if the ball was going in and someone on the line with their arms at their side stopped it going by standing there (even if it struck their arm) it wouldnt be a foul.... not sure that is correct. When Higgenbottom went down his arm was raised and stopped the ball from being dinked over him which would have presented Owen with a shooting opertunity. Thats the way the commentators interpreted it and I would tend to agree. I think it does have to be intentional,. The game we beat Rangers 1 nil with Bednars header, Neilson stopped a blatant goal late on with his hand but was not given due to the fact the ball was fired at him and he neither raised his arm to stop it or had time to react to move it. As i say I may be wrong and I,m sure referees interpret it differently but I 'm sure going by the rules of the game it must be intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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