Taffin Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Sorry to butt in, but the artistic side of things isn't, imo, about how technically adept the artist is. The "art" is the thought that is eventually visualised in the painting, photo, cut in half shark etc etc etc So while photography, from a technical point of view, may be easier to access and do than an oil painting, it doesn't make the end result any more less artistic. IMO. I agree with this, it isn't the medium, it is what is created. You could create a technically superb piece of stonework for a building and it wouldn't necessarily be art, but you could crudely bash one about without any skill but create something you envisaged that is quite a fantastic piece of art. Art doesn't have to be functional, though it can be, some of the most artistic and fantastic photographs I have seen aren't even technically that good, but that doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I take your point and I fully understand what you're saying. However, my appreciation of art comes from a place of talent. I get that the ideas and concepts are all important, I just don't take as much from a piece that I don't rate the technique behind it. The shark thing is cool and I get that it's the idea behind it but it's cool to me because I get to see a cross section of shark anatomy, not the idea behind it or the technique to create it. It's more an interesting biological exhibit rather than a piece of art IMO but I know what you mean anyway. I just don't rate photography as an art as it's mostly pretension over talent. That's just my view. Tbh it sounds like you are appreciating things from a different perspective rather than evaluating things on artistic integrity. The Burj al Arab is a engineering masterpiece and I appreciate the talent that it took to create but I wouldn't consider it art or evaluate it from that perspective. However engineers can create art, just as photographers can, art doesn't need to be created from incredible skill, it can be really simple. You sound like you look to appreciate things from the skill that it takes to make them, which many things are demonstrate incredible skill but are not artistic in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 This is precisely the sort of thing that gives me a negative attitude to photo art. You shouldn't dwell on the negatives - just wait to see what develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Fair enough, I've maybe just been over-exposed to dodgy stuff. Living in the West End will do that for you I think. One of my mates is currently trying to find somewhere to exhibit a series of black and white photos he's taken of his giant glass bong, all from odd angles. Some even have smoke in them. One is in colour. This is precisely the sort of thing that gives me a negative attitude to photo art. There is rubbish work in every discipline though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I like tattoos. Custom Inc near my flat in Glasgow are doing some amazing stuff. Check their website. Correct, but it's not some schemie bam with a tattoo gun purchased off the Internet claiming to be an artist. Good tattoos done properly can look very artistic and impressive, but as you have both said its important not to confuse amateur chancers with true professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Pedant's Corner (or is it pedants corner?) (or is it pedants' corner?) It's Pseuds Corner Typo hunter, jeezo. (or is it Jeeso ;-)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Just Came To Say Kello Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 http://www.stuckism.com/Hirst/StoleArt.html Not only is his art just pish, he found it fit to steal it off someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 http://www.stuckism.com/Hirst/StoleArt.html Not only is his art just pish, he found it fit to steal it off someone He is a thoroughly dislikeable person in the way he comes across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 http://www.stuckism.com/Hirst/StoleArt.html Not only is his art just pish, he found it fit to steal it off someone Can you steal uniform patterns of dots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Glad he has now proved that he is an utter fraud and a Grade A welt to boot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 I prefer Hirst's work there. I feel that he's refined the originals. He's created some great stuff, even if he seems confused about whether he stole the ideas or not. I like Damien Hirst though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Just Came To Say Kello Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 I prefer Hirst's work there. I feel that he's refined the originals. He's created some great stuff, even if he seems confused about whether he stole the ideas or not. I like Damien Hirst though. ....aaaaaand we're no longer friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 ....aaaaaand we're no longer friends. Let's be honest, that's your loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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