Dutchmul Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Dave king is a liar, he has lied consistently throughout his business career, he has lied to tax authorities, he has lied to the sevco fans(nomad, war chest etc etc), the orcs are just maybe starting to see through the bullsheet but I doubt it because they are "watp" and king is a real rangers man etc etc, if they keep winning, the orcs will swallow as much lamb as king can feed them, until the train smashes into the buffers. However, they are doing exactly the same thing with the tribute act that murray did with the original rangers, spend more than they earn, whilst they do that, they will always struggle, more wonga loans required to keep the lights on. Look at smeltic, they can't make a profit unless they sell players for multi millions each season or get into the group stages of the champions league and sevco are a long way from making the sort of money that smeltic are making. The forthcoming court cases will lift some of the rocks at ibrokes and shine a light on them, this will be very interesting and possibly devastating for sevco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 from the article ?9 million, plus the fan ownership schemes accumulation of subscribers cash is the minimum of what Rangers supporter?s have put into their club here, King and the Three Bears (by King?s own admission) have put half that in. Co-investors he said. The Rangers fans are allowing this to happen, after ALL that they?ve been through and after demanding transparency for years why are Rangers fans not asking vital and important questions? Because they still think they deserve some Mr Moneybags to come in and fund their despicable club whilst doing next to nothing themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Good article and the writer is correct as some of the orcs are beginning to have their doubts about King. One of my brothers-in-law who was all but outside waving flags when King took over is now asking 'where's the money' he now thinks King has spent too much time in the sun and should just shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Pish being taken by Warburton : (Someone had to ..) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3232373/Mark-Warburton-insists-tough-training-methods-help-set-standard-Rangers.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Pish being taken by Warburton : (Someone had to ..) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3232373/Mark-Warburton-insists-tough-training-methods-help-set-standard-Rangers.html ?The first thing you should do as a pro footballer when you get out of bed is drink a bottle of water. The second thing is in the car ? have a drink on the way to training. Ah the good old days, stop of at the boozer pick up a couple cans. Sorted. And if you followed the George Best routine, shag a bird on the way as well. I wonder if Mark tests for STDs as well. Edited September 13, 2015 by Dannie Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Interesting turn of events http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34245039 Wonder what he has to hide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Interesting turn of events http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34245039 Wonder what he has to hide "a religion built on religious bigotry". "What the rest of the world will never understand unless they experience it first hand is that Rangers Football Club is a religion, in itself, built on centuries of religious bigotry." At least he learned a few things in his time with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Warrant for his arrest a distinct possibility coupled with an extradition request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Where is Mr Ahmad holed up and is there an extradition treaty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) This is great news for King and company Clearly Ahmed is trying to avoid further scrutiny of his dealings and despite all the bluff and bluster trying to deflect from the real story is going to be part of this investigation. Of course the one constant in this saga since the takeover by Green and co is Mike Ashley and lets see where the story goes re his involvement in this saga. Edited September 14, 2015 by CJGJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Good old Imran and the game of finger pointing... His outburst about the Rangers fans is a terrible generalisation about a subsection of their fans - it's wrong to say they are all bad... but he has described the most angry and stupid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Where is Mr Ahmad holed up and is there an extradition treaty? I think he is in Pakistan, no treaty with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Good old Imran and the game of finger pointing... His outburst about the Rangers fans is a terrible generalisation about a subsection of their fans - it's wrong to say they are all bad... but he has described the most angry and stupid of them. describing the culture of the club but who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 CJGJ - how is this good news for King and company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggersBroom Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Warrant for his arrest a distinct possibility coupled with an extradition request. Reading his statement I'd guess he'd argue his Right to a Fair Trial would be breached if Pakistan extradited him to Scotland. But he sounds desperate and is clearly scraping the barrel for excuses. Do Pakistan acknowledge Human Rights in their law? I just remember there was a hoo-ha about Abu Hamza (I think) not being extradited to Jordan to face criminal charges because there was no guarantee that his Human Rights would be protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 UK and Pakistan are reported to be close to signing an extradition treaty. No formal arrangement currently. See you soon Imran! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchmul Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 CJGJ - how is this good news for King and company? Presumably because anyone accused of anything will now just blame ahmed, who wont be around for questioning. which means that maybe king and his band of merry men will not lose any assets sevco may have gotten by less than legitimate means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Has he been arrested or 'invited' to court? If he has not been arrested then I can understand why he does not head back from his trip to Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 First of all, he doesn't own Rangers(IL). So he would need to buy out the majority shareholder who I believe is craig whyte, then he would need to come to an agreement with all the creditors(including HMRC) and the liquidators to pay their debts in full or a proportion of them, then he can apply to court to get the company taken out of liquidation, to do all that will cost a huge amount of money(probably upwards of 50m), it ain't going to happen. The man is a glib and shameless liar and if he told me that the sun was going to rise tomorrow, i'd still get out of bed at dawn and open the curtains to check. He will not resurrect the old club, it is dying and will at some point cease to be, it will be an exclub. You really need to be asking why he has brought it up now? along with the sally settlement(3 months before his contract would end anyway), this smacks of some bad news coming. Apologies if posted already, but surely it is also an admission that they are a new club? Otherwise why, bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 How come David Murray gets off free in all this? Has he really not done anything wrong at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 UK and Pakistan are reported to be close to signing an extradition treaty. No formal arrangement currently. See you soon Imran! No doubt some sort of Taig conspiracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 How come David Murray gets off free in all this? Has he really not done anything wrong at all? This is all about the Whyte/Green period, Murray had nothing to do with it once Whyte took over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 How come David Murray gets off free in all this? Has he really not done anything wrong at all? I believe he got his pound of flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 How come David Murray gets off free in all this? Has he really not done anything wrong at all? He was long gone when Rangers were liquidated. He might get questioned about the EBT's but that's another case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 See when all this was kicking off I was saying "If Rangers were a horse they'd be glue by now" ... I've since moved to family members "if it was your mother in law you'd have turned the machine off" ... to sister/brother, wife, best mate ... why on earth are the gates just not closed, assets sold off and the debtors paid from that pot of cash. The SMSM need to stop claiming all these suits have cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 See when all this was kicking off I was saying "If Rangers were a horse they'd be glue by now" ... I've since moved to family members "if it was your mother in law you'd have turned the machine off" ... to sister/brother, wife, best mate ... why on earth are the gates just not closed, assets sold off and the debtors paid from that pot of cash. The SMSM need to stop claiming all these suits have cash. Actually ... the suits need to stop claiming they have cash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He was long gone when Rangers were liquidated. He might get questioned about the EBT's but that's another case. But would he not have known about Whyte and how corrupt he was before selling to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 But would he not have known about Whyte and how corrupt he was before selling to him? Did you really post this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I believe he got his pound of flesh. I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Someone remind me - what does smsm stand for? And no facetious "almost anything" responses, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Scottish Main Stream Media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Ta. I keep forgetting. Too many senior moments.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) I see Campbell Dallas are Rangers new auditors. I used to know two of the now partners there. Peter Gallanagh is a big Celtic fan and St holder. Donald Boyd was from Paisley and is a Buddy. Guessing "Good Rangers Men" didn't want the gig... Edited September 15, 2015 by Spellczech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 But would he not have known about Whyte and how corrupt he was before selling to him? Donald Muir would possibly have known much more about Craig Whyte than Murray would have, besides Murray didn't really have a choice who he sold the club to as it was the bank who were calling the shots, allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Someone remind me - what does smsm stand for? And no facetious "almost anything" responses, please. Scottish Main Stream Media Sycophantic can also be used in place of Scottish - actually for a while that's what I thought it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Someone remind me - what does smsm stand for? Senior moments signifying memory-lapses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/the-truthfulness-of-strangers/#more-6804 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The best troll in JKB history is on the last page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn5 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Succulent Mutton Saves Mordor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 So Many Senior Moments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Good old Imran and the game of finger pointing... His outburst about the Rangers fans is a terrible generalisation about a subsection of their fans - it's wrong to say they are all bad... but he has described most of them. A little fix to the end there. OK, it may be as you suggest that there are a few who support them without nodding towards the Protestant history of the club but even the most reasonable I know will smirk knowingly when the topic comes up. It's not a feral, rabid response but it's an acknowledgement that that's who Rangers are.It's where the club has come from and they've not actually travelled very far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 ouglas Fraser ?@BBCDouglasF 37m37 minutes ago #Rangers: latest on those legal proceedings: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Indeed. Boom ! http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13754937.Crown_Office_serve_indictments_in_connection_with_alleged_fraudulent_Rangers_takeover/ http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/rangers-fraud-probe-charles-green-6454619 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34272273 Edited September 16, 2015 by jambovambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 These charges are serious enough to make a few years of jail time quite possible for any found guilty - I wonder if one or more may offer to plead guilty and spill the beans in return for some clemency (non custodial?) in sentencing..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 These charges are serious enough to make a few years of jail time quite possible for any found guilty - I wonder if one or more may offer to plead guilty and spill the beans in return for some clemency (non custodial?) in sentencing..? You could see Whyte doing that, the wee rascal that he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnomarooned Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 You could see Whyte doing that, the wee rascal that he is. Indeed. I'm pretty sure that there's no honour among thieves etc. but Whyte is the guy who strikes me as having it all carefully documented ready to share when the going gets tough - which it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I see that Ahmad doesn't escape either despite being out of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Indeed. I'm pretty sure that there's no honour among thieves etc. but Whyte is the guy who strikes me as having it all carefully documented ready to share when the going gets tough - which it is.... and his fine collection of C90 cassettes ... to be fair, he's probably a digital kinda guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I feel the police have a strong case which will result in jail time for most. I also feel if the fraud revolves around property and other assets these will be seized and the liquidator will sell them and add proceeds to the growing pot for the claimants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Corners Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I feel the police have a strong case which will result in jail time for most. I also feel if the fraud revolves around property and other assets these will be seized and the liquidator will sell them and add proceeds to the growing pot for the claimants. I agree with this. As a claiment you would question how someone could value the assets at ?5 million, then sell those assets to himself and claim they are worth ?50 odd million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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