The Mighty Thor Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 invariably Barry Robson's second touch is a tackle There must be better on the bench than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Croatia 2-0 up out the blue. The Turkish keeper is horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Craig Conway next.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 invariably Barry Robson's second touch is a tackle There must be better on the bench than that. You can say that for a few of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Steven Crainey... WTF? How old is he? We should be looking to players who will actually be able to compete in Brazil in 2014 if we're lucky enough to get there. Half this team will need zimmer frames ffs. Just out of interest, who would you have in his position instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Thank feck that goon is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neave Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 This is laughable. Organise a friendly, call up players who are young/short on caps/uncapped/in form, and play pretty much the exact same team who just failed to qualify for a tournament. For your subs, bring on two of the players in form for fifteen minutes and Stephen Crainey. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Jordan Rhodes coming on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groot Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Feck me, can nobody even attempt to cross the ball? So many opportunities to get it in the box and they're passing it back the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboy81 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Just out of interest, who would you have in his position instead? Lee Wallace or Ross Wallace or Whittaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 This thread is chronic. You wouldn't think we were winning - a game away from home that'll help our FIFA rankings. We've brought in guys like Bardsley, Dorrans, McCarthur, Mackie, Adam, McKail-Smith etc. recently. What is it exactly folk think we're missing that is so obvious? What should Levein have done/not done that's driving everyone crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyruby Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 No game for stevo but i hope he does get his chance sometime in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Lee Wallace or Ross Wallace or Whittaker Lee Wallace, who should be first choice, pulled out injured. I'll take your word for it that Ross Wallace is vastly better than Stephen Crainey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Great strike from Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Well, that got me rethinking my apathy toward the national team. Pish, as per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Well done, lads. Solid win, nice periods of possession, another couple of young players getting more experience. Good day at the office. I'm sure folk would love to have seen a 5-0 romping, with disco goals by Dalglish, Jordan, Souness and Law, but they days are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 It's a win. And as someone said "a win is a win is a win." Cyprus aren't the best which is why they're ranked 120th in the world or something but that means feck all imo. Happy with that and Rhodes looks like a very good player, pity we'll have to wait a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 This thread is chronic. You wouldn't think we were winning - a game away from home that'll help our FIFA rankings. We've brought in guys like Bardsley, Dorrans, McCarthur, Mackie, Adam, McKail-Smith etc. recently. What is it exactly folk think we're missing that is so obvious? What should Levein have done/not done that's driving everyone crazy? I'd imagine it's the lost opportunity to try different players, combinations of players, formations and tactics in a game that is meaningless, our rankings will not improve/worsen significantly from this game. We know what roadrunner Miller can't do (great finish tonight though), we know what 33 year old Robson can't do....Fletcher was a doubt apparently.....don't play him then. Levein has wasted a chance to learn what his squad players can do in a friendly with a view towards building to a World Cup qualifying game. Same old faces, same old negative tactics and no doubt in 2 years time the same disappointing final outcome.....but we'll have an extra FIFA ranking point or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 It disappoints me that Stevo's been taken away from the team for a week for no reason, ultimately. Same thing happened with Kyle last year when we played the Faroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I'd imagine it's the lost opportunity to try different players, combinations of players, formations and tactics in a game that is meaningless, our rankings will not improve/worsen significantly from this game. We know what roadrunner Miller can't do (great finish tonight though), we know what 33 year old Robson can't do....Fletcher was a doubt apparently.....don't play him then. Levein has wasted a chance to learn what his squad players can do in a friendly with a view towards building to a World Cup qualifying game. Same old faces, same old negative tactics and no doubt in 2 years time the same disappointing final outcome.....but we'll have an extra FIFA ranking point or two. Cliche time, but there's no such thing as a meaningless game now. Qualification seedings are based on FIFA rankings. We need to win EVERY game. We did that, while at the same time seeing more of McKail-Smith, McCarthur, Mackie and tying down Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Well done, lads. Solid win, nice periods of possession, another couple of young players getting more experience. Good day at the office. I'm sure folk would love to have seen a 5-0 romping, with disco goals by Dalglish, Jordan, Souness and Law, but they days are gone. My view as well. Now if we can sort out that defence Scotland will be in a great position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 It disappoints me that Stevo's been taken away from the team for a week for no reason, ultimately. He'd only be attempting to deal with long balls being launched at him if he was at Riccarton tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 It disappoints me that Stevo's been taken away from the team for a week for no reason, ultimately. Same thing happened with Kyle last year when we played the Faroes. Any Hearts player involved in the national side is there as a simple pawn. Nothing more, nothing less. Lee Wallace gave them a couple of games and ended up out of the Hearts team for a considerable time. For what? The Hearts players should recognise the mafia and refuse to serve on the alter 'pawnmanship' in a largely insignificant game of SFA chess. FTSFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 This thread is chronic. You wouldn't think we were winning - a game away from home that'll help our FIFA rankings. We've brought in guys like Bardsley, Dorrans, McCarthur, Mackie, Adam, McKail-Smith etc. recently. What is it exactly folk think we're missing that is so obvious? What should Levein have done/not done that's driving everyone crazy? Remember this is JKB! Thought Berra was excellent - and he had to be! Superb goal from Millar! Bardsley's worst game for Scotland! Rhodes, even in the short time, looks the real deal! Robson had a great 1st half! Mackie will be a threat to anyone, because even he doesn't know what he's going to do next! With experience he'll hopefully get that bit more composure! Biggest flop of the night was the tortuous commentary duo who, apart from the assault on the eardrums, failed to describe what was actually happening before their eyes on several occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Any Hearts player involved in the national side is there as a simple pawn. Nothing more, nothing less. Lee Wallace gave them a couple of games and ended up out of the Hearts team for a considerable time. For what? The Hearts players should recognise the mafia and refuse to serve on the alter 'pawnmanship' in a largely insignificant game of SFA chess. FTSFA. Give it a rest please. As much as I dont like the SFA I never subscribe to excuses Hearts fans use to not support the Scotland team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 It disappoints me that Stevo's been taken away from the team for a week for no reason, ultimately. Same thing happened with Kyle last year when we played the Faroes. Maybe its a case of Levein seeing this as letting Ryan adjust to the international arena and seeing if his game holds up in training and i don't think Ryan would say its a waisted trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Remember this is JKB! Thought Berra was excellent - and he had to be! Superb goal from Millar! Bardsley's worst game for Scotland! Rhodes, even in the short time, looks the real deal! Robson had a great 1st half! Mackie will be a threat to anyone, because even he doesn't know what he's going to do next! With experience he'll hopefully get that bit more composure! Biggest flop of the night was the tortuous commentary duo who, apart from the assault on the eardrums, failed to describe what was actually happening before their eyes on several occasions. I was brought up in the 70's watching two great Scottish teams, the 74 & 78 world cup,squads. Although there was some cross over, essentially they were two different teams. My favourites were the 78 team although they crashed and burnt. I went to the qualifiers against Czechoslovakia at Hampden, then Wales at Anfield. I honestly thought as a 16 year old that we could win the world cup. But we gradually declined in style and substance. The 98 squad was the last one I recall with some quality. But there is something about the current squad that makes me feel we could have a decent chance of qualifying for a final again. But you get the feeling some folk on the forum are screaming out for Scotland to get beat and will knock them at every opportunity. Quite sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboy81 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I was brought up in the 70's watching two great Scottish teams, the 74 & 78 world cup,squads. Although there was some cross over, essentially they were two different teams. My favourites were the 78 team although they crashed and burnt. I went to the qualifiers against Czechoslovakia at Hampden, then Wales at Anfield. I honestly thought as a 16 year old that we could win the world cup. But we gradually declined in style and substance. The 98 squad was the last one I recall with some quality. But there is something about the current squad that makes me feel we could have a decent chance of qualifying for a final again. But you get the feeling some folk on the forum are screaming out for Scotland to get beat and will knock them at every opportunity. Quite sad really. For once we have a decent squad of players with a smidgeon of quality in there too like players who play for some of the top teams in England. Things are definately better than 10 years ago. The likes of Wylde and Forrest could become big players for us in the near future too. The problem is the manager. He's not cut out for international football and I don't believe he is the man to get the best out of this squad of players. Smith or McLeish would have qualified fod Euro 2012 imo. The thought of another campaign under Levein is ghastly and I hope the SFA bring someone else in before it starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Well done, lads. Solid win, nice periods of possession, another couple of young players getting more experience. Good day at the office. I'm sure folk would love to have seen a 5-0 romping, with disco goals by Dalglish, Jordan, Souness and Law, but they days are gone. Even in the days of Dalglish and Souness we needed a 96th minute Richard Gough header to win at the same venue, seems we're around the same level then as we are now, I thought it wasn't bad at all tonight and can't understand why people are mumping about it, bizarre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Any Hearts player involved in the national side is there as a simple pawn. Nothing more, nothing less. Lee Wallace gave them a couple of games and ended up out of the Hearts team for a considerable time. For what? The Hearts players should recognise the mafia and refuse to serve on the alter 'pawnmanship' in a largely insignificant game of SFA chess. FTSFA. Do you genuinely believe what you have written here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I thought it was a good performance and game.Coming from myself that is high praise indeed for recent national team performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Bet Celtic fans are salivating at the thought of Levein improving their defence like he has the Scottish defence! Three good goals in the game, some dire defending and some dire passing. Reality check required from some on here.This is a bigger squad of similar standard players now but still lacking the quality to qualify for a finals, as we have just seen. I like Levein as a person and ex player but I have no confidence in his ability to achieve much with our national team. Who would have thought Levein and Kenny Black shaping our future? The task requires a better management team as it is a really tough one. By the way as regards an earlier post were Dalglish and Souness not in management when we won in Cyprus before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Even in the days of Dalglish and Souness we needed a 96th minute Richard Gough header to win at the same venue, seems we're around the same level then as we are now, I thought it wasn't bad at all tonight and can't understand why people are mumping about it, bizarre! Just a few years after they'd gone but I get your point... I remember that game and the grainy footage/commentary helped us qualify for Italia '90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Just a few years after they'd gone but I get your point... I remember that game and the grainy footage/commentary helped us qualify for Italia '90. Bllody hell, was it really 1989? I honestly thought it was 6 or 7 years earlier as I seem to recall us watching it whilst at school, it obviously wasn't that game as I was 18 then and very much left school Feck, my heads burst trying to think what game we watched in school now, I'm gonna have to text some old school mates and find out as it's really bugging me, you've ruined my night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Bllody hell, was it really 1989? I honestly thought it was 6 or 7 years earlier as I seem to recall us watching it whilst at school, it obviously wasn't that game as I was 18 then and very much left school Feck, my heads burst trying to think what game we watched in school now, I'm gonna have to text some old school mated and find out as it's really bugging me, you've ruined my night! I was about 10 when Richard Guff smashed in that header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browserchip Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Any Hearts player involved in the national side is there as a simple pawn. Nothing more, nothing less. Lee Wallace gave them a couple of games and ended up out of the Hearts team for a considerable time. For what? The Hearts players should recognise the mafia and refuse to serve on the alter 'pawnmanship' in a largely insignificant game of SFA chess. FTSFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Bllody hell, was it really 1989? I honestly thought it was 6 or 7 years earlier as I seem to recall us watching it whilst at school, it obviously wasn't that game as I was 18 then and very much left school Feck, my heads burst trying to think what game we watched in school now, I'm gonna have to text some old school mated and find out as it's really bugging me, you've ruined my night! Loved that game. I got my radio confiscated in 1st year maths. Was the one you watched maybe v Australia in 1985? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Loved that game. I got my radio confiscated in 1st year maths. Was the one you watched maybe v Australia in 1985? Oh Eldar, I could have your babies! That's the game!! I remember it now, it was the 0-0 draw which kicked off during the day at school and the place went nuts on the final whistle. Am I right in saying that the Cypriot game was played during the day also, no idea why I think this but I seem to remember going ape when Goughie scored. (P.S. I've had three mates text back saying saying I'm imagining things) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Oh Eldar, I could have your babies! That's the game!! I remember it now, it was the 0-0 draw which kicked off during the day at school and the place went nuts on the final whistle. Am I right in saying that the Cypriot game was played during the day also, no idea why I think this but I seem to remember going ape when Goughie scored. (P.S. I've had three mates text back saying saying I'm imagining things) The Cyprus one was during the day also. Vivid memories of both games. It was so weird being at school for football games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 The Cyprus one was during the day also. Vivid memories of both games. It was so weird being at school for football games. Thanks for clarifying that mate, I thought I was going bonkers for a while there (I was only kidding about having yer babies btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 The Cyprus one was during the day also. Vivid memories of both games. It was so weird being at school for football games. Hmmm, what time did it kick off? I might have had a cheeky skive or made it home from primary school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Hmmm, what time did it kick off? I might have had a cheeky skive or made it home from primary school. http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/international_fixture_details.cfm?page=463&matchID=57923 3pm their time. 1pm in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Do you genuinely believe what you have written here? Some of it, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Oh Eldar, I could have your babies! That's the game!! I remember it now, it was the 0-0 draw which kicked off during the day at school and the place went nuts on the final whistle. Am I right in saying that the Cypriot game was played during the day also, no idea why I think this but I seem to remember going ape when Goughie scored. (P.S. I've had three mates text back saying saying I'm imagining things) I only ever took one half day off primary school (I was 9 at the time), and that was to watch a Scotland game (I don't think they had TV's in schools in those days). The only reason my Mum let me take the afternoon off was because it was coming up to Christmas and she didn't think they would mind. Scotland had beaten Italy at Hampden the previous month 1-0, with John Greig scoring the goal. The return leg was on 7 December 1965, and the Italians moved it to Naples with a 14:00 start (15:00 there), to try and get as much advantage as possible. Scotland were absolutely honking that day, and suffered from important players missing, including the keeper Bill Brown (some punter from Burnley played in goals), Jim Baxter, Willie Henderson, and Alan Gilzean. Had to play with Ron Yeats, Liverpool's centre half at centre forward, and Davie Provan of Rangers, who couldn't kick a ball with his right foot was forced to play right back. Italy won it 3-0 and about 20 minutes into the 2nd half I asked my Mum if I could go back to school. She had to remind me that at that point the school was about to close for the day. Could have qualified for the World Cup in England if we had won in Naples I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/international_fixture_details.cfm?page=463&matchID=57923 3pm their time. 1pm in Scotland. Sounds about right. No idea if it was a school day but I remember it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Vespa Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Any Hearts player involved in the national side is there as a simple pawn. Nothing more, nothing less. Lee Wallace gave them a couple of games and ended up out of the Hearts team for a considerable time. For what? The Hearts players should recognise the mafia and refuse to serve on the alter 'pawnmanship' in a largely insignificant game of SFA chess. FTSFA. Ho ho what a load of tosh but then you know that? Is Levein with his Hearts leamings party to all this? When Hearts have players of the quality required to walk into the national squad they will. Simple. At the moment we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Crane Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Even in the days of Dalglish and Souness we needed a 96th minute Richard Gough header to win at the same venue, seems we're around the same level then as we are now, I thought it wasn't bad at all tonight and can't understand why people are mumping about it, bizarre! Dalglish and Souness had retired from international football three years earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Dalglish and Souness had retired from international football three years earlier See above... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Dalglish and Souness had retired from international football three years earlier I know, I know, keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Darren Fletcher is the only player playing at a significant level on a regular basis to consider not turning up for any international. Everyone else should be there as respect for themselves to learn to be better player. Which also benefits their clubs both in terms of player development and transfer value. Yes there are risks of players getting injured but the SFA has full insurance to compensate clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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