Jambof3tornado Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-15048684 Sorry if posted elsewhere but good on the Fife plod but cant believe they only heard 3 people!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside1874 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk...t-fife-15048684 Sorry if posted elsewhere but good on the Fife plod but cant believe they only heard 3 people!!! Thats one police force doing their bit and sending out a message to the away support..............what is the betting that Fife is wiped from the SPL in the not too distant future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk...t-fife-15048684 Sorry if posted elsewhere but good on the Fife plod but cant believe they only heard 3 people!!! Wonder what end they were in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Wonder what end they were in? The article reads like its dunfermline fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 The article reads like its dunfermline fans. It only mentions East End Park, how does that make out its Dunfy fams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 "Three men will appear at Dunfermline Sheriff Court on Monday (26th September 2011) having been arrested during the Dunfermline v Rangers game at East End Park on today. All three men have been charged with alleged breaches of the peace, aggravated by religious prejudice. The men aged 19,20 and 31 were arrested as part of an ongoing operation by Fife Constabulary to tackle football related hate crime. All three men were arrested within the East Stand of the stadium occupied by Rangers supporters. The intelligence led deployment of plain clothed officers within the ground also led to the arrest of a 20 year old man in relation to a racially motivated breach of the peace at last weeks Dunfermline v Hibs game. Football liaison officer, Sergeant Andy Smith, said: " Fife Constabulary is committed to delivering a clear message to those who continue to shout hate-filled comments during football matches that we will pursue you until this type of behavior stops. These arrests should act as a further warning to supporters attending East End Park who are intent on conducting themselves in a racially or religiously prejudiced manner." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It only mentions East End Park, how does that make out its Dunfy fams? Just the way Dunfermline have came out and banned them. You rarely hear of teams banning individual away fans? edit - i see from the other article they are rangers fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Just the way Dunfermline have came out and banned them. You rarely hear of teams banning individual away fans? edit - i see from the other article they are rangers fans. Clubs ban any away fan if they are arrested, I know that from one of my mates who read in the DU programme whilst in Tannadice that he was barred! A bit late in letting him know mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Pleasing that it was rangers fans but what happened to the arrest of the other 2000??? Lack of cell space?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside1874 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Just the way Dunfermline have came out and banned them. You rarely hear of teams banning individual away fans? edit - i see from the other article they are rangers fans. Is Hearts the only team that sells direct to the weegie fans because of that admin fee fiasco ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside1874 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Just the way Dunfermline have came out and banned them. You rarely hear of teams banning individual away fans? edit - i see from the other article they are rangers fans. Is Hearts the only team that sells direct to the weegie fans because of that admin fee fiasco ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Is Hearts the only team that sells direct to the weegie fans because of that admin fee fiasco ? Hearts and Hibs i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It's a start. Arresting 3 might put off 300 next time. Arresting another 6 next time might put off another 600. Let's hope that other constabularies follow the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 It's a start. Arresting 3 might put off 300 next time. Arresting another 6 next time might put off another 600. Let's hope that other constabularies follow the lead. Correct about putting them off but what happens when all the constabularies merge,and they all become the Strathclyde mega polis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It's a start. Arresting 3 might put off 300 next time. Arresting another 6 next time might put off another 600. Let's hope that other constabularies follow the lead. Will it ****! You know it and I know it, even L and B are infested with the uglies and will never huckle them for sectarian abuse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Correct about putting them off but what happens when all the constabularies merge,and they all become the Strathclyde mega polis? We could be lucky. Half the OF may have gone out of business by the time that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It only mentions East End Park, how does that make out its Dunfy fams? BJ, remember it's an article on the BBC you were reading. ........ Spin's their name of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesmith Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Someone at Fife police obviously is after a position in the Scottish Government and is out to make a name for themselves with a public anti football bigotry drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Someone at Fife police obviously is after a position in the Scottish Government and is out to make a name for themselves with a public anti football bigotry drive. If thats their motive then good for them,and if they take out a few cavemen on the way to parliament then thats even better!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumbernauldjambo83 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 3 less backwords cretins taw worry aboot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 3 less backwords cretins taw worry aboot! Naw, they'll still be on the streets/in the pubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Hearts and Hibs i believe. Motherwell do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Motherwell do as well. Motherwell built a special stand for the *****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john brownlee Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-15048684 Sorry if posted elsewhere but good on the Fife plod but cant believe they only heard 3 people!!! I often wonder are these and the flag/song posts are posted by cafolics just to start a victum thread people with blinkered views are imo sado and daffties get a life the world is falling apart and you are worried about name calling. three people arrested at a football match for name calling and a murder ten miles away goes undetected for three years eye right the polis have their priorities if you encourage them they will continue to sing their songs, best if you ignore them and through natural course they will tyre and the songs will die fuel to the fire and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Nothing pisses me off more than sectarianism. Apart from Catholics. :'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I often wonder are these and the flag/song posts are posted by cafolics just to start a victum thread people with blinkered views are imo sado and daffties get a life the world is falling apart and you are worried about name calling. three people arrested at a football match for name calling and a murder ten miles away goes undetected for three years eye right the polis have their priorities if you encourage them they will continue to sing their songs, best if you ignore them and through natural course they will tyre and the songs will die fuel to the fire and all that Let's ostracise these damn cafolics within the Hearts support. Any other demographic who can p off too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I often wonder are these and the flag/song posts are posted by cafolics just to start a victum thread people with blinkered views are imo sado and daffties get a life the world is falling apart and you are worried about name calling. three people arrested at a football match for name calling and a murder ten miles away goes undetected for three years eye right the polis have their priorities if you encourage them they will continue to sing their songs, best if you ignore them and through natural course they will tyre and the songs will die fuel to the fire and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Let's ostracise these damn cafolics within the Hearts support. Any other demographic who can p off too? Oh the Hibees are Gaaayyyyy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumbernauldjambo83 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Nothing pisses me off more than sectarianism. Apart from Catholics. :'> IPOX >>>>>>>>> IS THAT A WAY YOU CLOWN! Don't bring your blinkered shyt on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioactive Mince Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 IPOX >>>>>>>>> IS THAT A WAY YOU CLOWN! Don't bring your blinkered shyt on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dik Mar Van Nostrilboy Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 IPOX >>>>>>>>> IS THAT A WAY YOU CLOWN! Don't bring your blinkered shyt on here HOOK LINE AND SINKER! Give cumbernauld jambo his teeth back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumbernauldjambo83 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 HOOK LINE AND SINKER! Give cumbernauld jambo his teeth back. your chat gets worse by the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dik Mar Van Nostrilboy Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 your chat gets worse by the day! Aw listen to topchat giving it the big one, away and heedbutt yer kneecap pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidkeye Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 The arrests were made in the little stand running the length of the pitch where the police are stationed at the segregation point as well as the back of the stand, and because that area is fairly small, any Rangers fan(s) shouting sectarian remarks would be pretty easily identifiable if close to the segregation point, or the police at the back would pick it up. The only problem is it's obviously much harder when they are in a bigger stands i.e the traditional away-end at EEP (where you can almost guarantee similar shouts/comments were made yesterday), or the away end at Tynie, Easter Road, Motherwell, Aberdeen, Killie etc. Where officers can be much further away from the fans making specific sectarian shouts and may find it more difficult to pin point them. Right now, every force has designated sectarian-initiative officers for matches (the ones with the baseball style caps) who are specifically there to pick up on what individuals etc who are indulging in inappropriate sectarian behaviour and to decide if sectarian comments are being used. Let?s be honest when the majority of the 3700 Rangers (or Celtic with the reduced allocation of 3400) come to Tynie and sing their usual party songs en-masse, as they both will, (with the away the away supports of the clubs containing a higher percentage of the more "extreme" individuals within the fanbases) then as usual I?d expect nothing to be actioned against this by the police. However I think individual outbursts (or behaving inappropriately using sectarian remarks) will be targeted under the new legislation and the fan in question arrested. I think more in hope of having a knock-on effect in regard to putting others off risking arrest. Although, this is where it gets tricky as we know against the Old Firm (Celtic in particular for us) it's a powder-keg atmosphere already and going into the middle of a stand containing over 3500 Old Firm fans would be tricky and could potentially lead to further incident, i.e the incidents with stewards/police at the recent Celtic game. Basically the point is, it's a bit easier to pull some Old Firm fans out of the smaller stands containing small sections of few hundred fans (i.e St Mirren/Inverness/St Johnstone) rather than trying it in a packed Roseburn or South Stand at ER or any of the other stands I?ve mentioned in the last paragraph. You would probably need the riot police to go and pull a single Rangers fan out of a packed South Stand at Aberdeen for example. It's all about strength in numbers for the Old Firm away supports which enhances the "we'll sing what we want" mentality. Time will tell if L&B police are going to take action with the two impending visits of the Old Firm to Tynie, obviously given the recent and past history, the Celtic game in particular will be under the spotlight for both home and away fans. Also I aware this post is quite specific, though the new legislation etc was obviously brought in surrounding Old Firm matches and IMO 95% of arrests etc (aside from the Old Firm matches themselves) will be at the Old Firm's away fixtures. It?s encouraging that Fife police have taken a bit of stand with the powers of the legislation regarding sectarian behaviour in football grounds and it's a situation lot's of people (hopefully including potential perpetrators - for which new regional Law prosecution teams have already been set-up for) will be monitoring closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 I often wonder are these and the flag/song posts are posted by cafolics just to start a victum thread people with blinkered views are imo sado and daffties get a life the world is falling apart and you are worried about name calling. three people arrested at a football match for name calling and a murder ten miles away goes undetected for three years eye right the polis have their priorities if you encourage them they will continue to sing their songs, best if you ignore them and through natural course they will tyre and the songs will die fuel to the fire and all that What a ripper of a post So I am now a catholic because I bring news of huns being arresting? Have a word Captain Caveman!!!! Ignore them and they will stop,aye right,coz thats worked well. The threat of undercover polis standing in the crowds is a decent deterrant but more hooligans getting banning orders is what will help to clean up our game!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Someone at Fife police obviously is after a position in the Scottish Government and is out to make a name for themselves with a public anti football bigotry drive. All Chief Constables are the lap dogs of the political classes these days. Most of them will do anything to cosy up to the Scottish Government. Wait till there is one Scottish Police Service then you will see real "political policing". Something quite "Orwell like" about all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Elephants are best eaten one bite at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Thing is Ugly fans tend to gang together to protect the one the police /stewards try to go after ,we saw that at the last Celtic game at Tynie when the stewards went to get a guy .My mates in the Tayside dogs and he basically says that due to numbers of protecting there own amongst the Uglies the police will not move in unless some one is in danger . If it wasnt for the starring role of our own muppet we would have had all the moral high ground to go at them which was a pitty . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Thing is Ugly fans tend to gang together to protect the one the police /stewards try to go after ,we saw that at the last Celtic game at Tynie when the stewards went to get a guy .My mates in the Tayside dogs and he basically says that due to numbers of protecting there own amongst the Uglies the police will not move in unless some one is in danger . If it wasnt for the starring role of our own muppet we would have had all the moral high ground to go at them which was a pitty . They dont have to move in,all they have to do is ID the people they want and get them after the match when the crowds split up a bit. Or napalm them all!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Unfortunately, it now seems to be fashionable for governments to concentrate on trivial "crimes" like football songs and phone hacking, while the streets are full of knife carriers and junkies. Time to get the priorities right. We now have a left-wing Scottish government who are determined to introduce the sort of Newspeak that George Orwell warned about. This is designed to stop people thinking in what the state determines to be the "wrong" way. Where does it end? Shouting, joking, banter and yes, aggression is all part of going to football. Compared to some countries in the world, Spain, Serbia for example we don't have any racial or sectarian problems worthy of His Smugness Alex Salmond and his little government toadies sticking their noses into. What a ripper of a post So I am now a catholic because I bring news of huns being arresting? Have a word Captain Caveman!!!! Ignore them and they will stop,aye right,coz thats worked well. The threat of undercover polis standing in the crowds is a decent deterrant but more hooligans getting banning orders is what will help to clean up our game!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Unfortunately, it now seems to be fashionable for governments to concentrate on trivial "crimes" like football songs and phone hacking, while the streets are full of knife carriers and junkies. Time to get the priorities right. We now have a left-wing Scottish government who are determined to introduce the sort of Newspeak that George Orwell warned about. This is designed to stop people thinking in what the state determines to be the "wrong" way. Where does it end? Shouting, joking, banter and yes, aggression is all part of going to football. Compared to some countries in the world, Spain, Serbia for example we don't have any racial or sectarian problems worthy of His Smugness Alex Salmond and his little government toadies sticking their noses into. Thats just not true,but if it helps to deflect from the sectarianism argument then fill your boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Unfortunately, it now seems to be fashionable for governments to concentrate on trivial "crimes" like football songs and phone hacking, while the streets are full of knife carriers and junkies. Time to get the priorities right. We now have a left-wing Scottish government who are determined to introduce the sort of Newspeak that George Orwell warned about. This is designed to stop people thinking in what the state determines to be the "wrong" way. Where does it end? Shouting, joking, banter and yes, aggression is all part of going to football. Compared to some countries in the world, Spain, Serbia for example we don't have any racial or sectarian problems worthy of His Smugness Alex Salmond and his little government toadies sticking their noses into. Thats just not true,but if it helps to deflect from the sectarianism argument then fill your boots. Not true?????? You must visit me in Blackburn at some point and see if it isn't true, 3 smack dealers within a minutes walk of my front door and by no means do I stay in the worst part of the village! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Not true?????? You must visit me in Blackburn at some point and see if it isn't true, 3 smack dealers within a minutes walk of my front door and by no means do I stay in the worst part of the village! But to say that the streets are full of knives and junkies insnt true is it. Certain areas are worse than others but they arent full!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 But to say that the streets are full of knives and junkies insnt true is it. Certain areas are worse than others but they arent full!!! OK, not sure about knives, only had 1 pulled on me once, but junkies, feckin awash with them here mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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