jambovambo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 http://sport.scotsman.com/football/-Beslija-to-return-to.3937562.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Awesome. Is he still one of the fastest players in Europe? We should have been signing players like him 18 months ago. He's just what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Another one to add to the theory on high paid players being injured all the time! He looked no bad for half an hour against United, the Bosnians in Mostar appear to think he is magic. Who knows, maybe if he''s fit he might be no bad......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 who knows? he might actually turn out good this time. quite encouraging at the bottom that neilson is suspended for 2 games after the split Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Will we finally see a youth player at Right Back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyjambo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I think it would good to get shot of him, another player who could have been good but is to injury prone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 who knows? he might actually turn out good this time. quite encouraging at the bottom that neilson is suspended for 2 games after the split Ooh, you are awful.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby ! Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Truly the theatre of the absurd. FFS Vlad, throw the lad 200K (6 months wages more or less) in his back-pocket and tell him he's a free agent. Thats a cheaper option than him sitting in the stands or laid out on the physios couch for another year or more. Get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Will we finally see a youth player at Right Back? Thomson has been in Frail's squads fairly regularly. He should get the opportunity when Neilson is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 9 GRAND A WEEK! Are they joking! Get him punted pronto. Good news in the second last paragraph. Just hope Thomson can make his mark on the team and stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Good news in the second last paragraph. Just hope Thomson can make his mark on the team and stay there. Let's just wait and reassess that statement after the first 2 games of the split shall we. P.S You are in cloud cuckoo land if you think Thomson will be given the right back berth for these 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Let's just wait and reassess that statement after the first 2 games of the split shall we. P.S You are in cloud cuckoo land if you think Thomson will be given the right back berth for these 2 games. jason certainly deserves a chance,who would you play instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 jason certainly deserves a chance,who would you play instead Think maybe he is trying to imply that Frail will play Tall or Karapidis (if fit) ahead of Thomson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyjambo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 9000 a week X 3 1/2 year contract = 1.638M :eek::eek: Nae wonder we are in so much debt!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Let's just wait and reassess that statement after the first 2 games of the split shall we. P.S You are in cloud cuckoo land if you think Thomson will be given the right back berth for these 2 games. Think it will very much depend on the outcome of Saturday's game at Kilmarnock. If we remain in the bottom 6 can see absolutely no problem with going with youngsters in the squad and team for the remaining 5 post split matches. More important, in my opinion, to discover what we have, player wise, for next season than worrying whether we will get ?100,000, ?85,000, ?75,000 depending on where we finish league position wise (just made those three figures up by the way to sort of emphasise my point). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 9000 a week X 3 1/2 year contract = 1.638M :eek::eek: Nae wonder we are in so much debt!!! Add on the transfer fee then you see that by the end of his contract (presuming he stays) we will have shelled out over 2million quid on a player that will probably not even reach 30 games for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 He actually looked a no bad player in the games he played. Sparta at Murrayfield in the pishing rain, he was great. The Dundee Utd game he looked handy too. If we've got him, play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 He actually looked a no bad player in the games he played.Sparta at Murrayfield in the pishing rain, he was great. The Dundee Utd game he looked handy too. If we've got him, play him. The most disappointing signing ever at Hearts. Filled the last weak position in the Burley side. All the rubbish from the supposed Genk fans (really his agent I would guess) about how fast and good he was and how they didn't want to lose him. Then our lot see him at a training session and realise how poor he was - and try to get out of paying for him! Very poor in the games he played, took no responsibility on the ball - just immediately shuffling it back in the direction it came from. Very slow and so injury prone he got injured virtually every time he played. Even Ivaskevicius was better than him away to Alloa at right wing. An absolutely horrendous waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Think maybe he is trying to imply that Frail will play Tall or Karapidis (if fit) ahead of Thomson. Think it will very much depend on the outcome of Saturday's game at Kilmarnock. If we remain in the bottom 6 can see absolutely no problem with going with youngsters in the squad and team for the remaining 5 post split matches. QUOTE] I'm just ridiculously optimistic guys We WILL win at Rugby Park on Saturday and Aberdeen will win or draw on Monday night. I'm not BELIEVING, I just have faith that the boys will a good job on Saturday and that Aberdeen should be getting at LEAST a draw at home to Falkirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Pathetic how some will use any excuse to have a go at neilson Whilst thomson is ok, he definitly isn't better than neilson and imo never will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Pathetic how some will use any excuse to have a go at neilson Whilst thomson is ok, he definitly isn't better than neilson and imo never will be You see to many people being "ok" is actually a step up from Neilson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi_1983 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 So Vlad flu is affecting him over there too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Pathetic how some will use any excuse to have a go at neilson Whilst thomson is ok, he definitly isn't better than neilson and imo never will be Agree that a post about the bullet should not turn into a Robbie debate. However, do you not think JT is worth a chance before you shoot him down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 i'm glad he's coming back. There's always going to be people who will say ' lets give him a chance' this is a chance for him, his last one imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyjambo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Add on the transfer fee then you see that by the end of his contract (presuming he stays) we will have shelled out over 2million quid on a player that will probably not even reach 30 games for the club. Thanks Rixy!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Add on the transfer fee then you see that by the end of his contract (presuming he stays) we will have shelled out over 2million quid on a player that will probably not even reach 30 games for the club. 30? 3 games would be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Pinilla is better value than Beslija - FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I think he was unlucky that his first two games for Hearts were back to back Aberdeen games, where he got kicked up and down the park. In other games, I've liked the look of him but something is horribly wrong behind the scenes. I can't help but think he's paying the price for his agents' antics. Buffalo Bill . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 30? 3 games would be a start. Think the article says he has played 13 (including subs i think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I don't understand all the negativity towards beslija. Any time he has played he did well and was then dropped. It is not his fault that he was not playing for no apparent reason. Yes he got injured a lot, but that did not stop the circus act picking the team from selcting him in the early days. Would be glad to see him get a chance. The same happened to Tall and he turned out to be good. Makela has also been given a rough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Awesome. Is he still one of the fastest players in Europe?We should have been signing players like him 18 months ago. He's just what we need. He needs to be fast to keep up with his first touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambojohnnyboy Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Didn't benefit from him when he was here, didn't get any worse while he's been gone, time to punt if the price is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Didn't benefit from him when he was here, didn't get any worse while he's been gone, time to punt if the price is right. yep but what if Miko goes, then he's well worth having imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I don't understand all the negativity towards beslija. Any time he has played he did well and was then dropped. It is not his fault that he was not playing for no apparent reason. Yes he got injured a lot, but that did not stop the circus act picking the team from selcting him in the early days. Would be glad to see him get a chance. The same happened to Tall and he turned out to be good. Makela has also been given a rough time. Spot on. I, too, thought his first couple of games against Aberdeen were lacklustre but he did show after that. He got a bad injury playing (very well apparently) against Falkirk reserves and has not been seen since. If Hearts want to avoid paying him win bonuses then fair enough. But there will be very few clubs in the queue to sign a player who has hardly played in 2 years ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Jambo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Take him back at the end of the season when his loan runs out then punt his ass along with Pinalla out the door for good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Pinilla is better value than Beslija - FACT Aye - and thats saying something. Get them both punted out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Take him back at the end of the season when his loan runs out then punt his ass along with Pinalla out the door for good How ? He has a contract and who is going to buy him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Jambo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 How ? He has a contract and who is going to buy him ? Well we take him back after his loan period runs out then we put him on the transfer list and then hopefully some mug of a chairman might buy him .If not we pay him his remainder of his contract then tell him to GTF .The same goes for that other waster Pinalla we should tell to GTF NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Thanks Rixy!!!!!!! I'd be very surprised if Rixy had anything to do with signing 'The Bullet'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Pinilla is better value than Beslija - FACT Get Pinilla up front with Nade, Bes on the right, Larry in the middle with Ruben / Jonsson as required and Driver / Screpis on the left. Miko and Chesney can provide cover with youth blooded over the course of the season.....preferably Glen, Visconte, Templeton, Mearns, even Branny and Copil if still here and good enough. Whoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sked21 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 There is absolutely no chance that Beslija was a Rix signing. No chance. I don't think he is a bad player. The opposite I reckon he is a really good player who has just been really unlucky and it just has not worked for him. He was absolutely loved at Genk (Pictures to prove it) and there is no doubt there is a player in there. BUT probably best for all parties if we went our seperate ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicker Man Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 What I would like to know - how did we end up with so many expensive diddys - to replace the cheap Scottish diddys we already had ? Vlads scouting 'network' 'seems to be utter crap - Tall, Straceny, Petras, Makela, Beslija etc Who recommended them ? - who actually watched them play ? - who said they would adapt to Scottish football ? - who sanctioned the deals and agreed the players wages? This 'who' needs to be punted at the first opportunity ( as long as it's no Vlad ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sked21 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Fyssas, Jankauskas, Kingston, Palazeulos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 What I would like to know - how did we end up with so many expensive diddys - to replace the cheap Scottish diddys we already had ? Vlads scouting 'network' 'seems to be utter crap - Tall, Straceny, Petras, Makela, Beslija etc Who recommended them ? - who actually watched them play ? - who said they would adapt to Scottish football ? - who sanctioned the deals and agreed the players wages? This 'who' needs to be punted at the first opportunity ( as long as it's no Vlad ) Tall ?!?!? the best defender at the club by some way ! What are you drinking mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicker Man Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Tall ?!?!? the best defender at the club by some way ! What are you drinking mate For 10k a week I would have hoped so. Tall has improved - but given his 3yrs at the club has he warranted the 1.5m taken out of the club? I'm not blaming the player but whoever agreed that deal needs to be accountable. I can understand the 'lets showcase the players and move them on' - but if they are not even rated by the respective 'managers' ( Rix, McGlynn, Valdas, Frail ) and aren't in the squad, then something is wrong with the players ability or attitude. This should have been picked up on even before signing for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 For 10k a week I would have hoped so. Tall has improved - but given his 3yrs at the club has he warranted the 1.5m taken out of the club? I'm not blaming the player but whoever agreed that deal needs to be accountable. I can understand the 'lets showcase the players and move them on' - but if they are not even rated by the respective 'managers' ( Rix, McGlynn, Valdas, Frail ) and aren't in the squad, then something is wrong with the players ability or attitude. This should have been picked up on even before signing for the club. You are right. The scouting and signing of the hopeless players and damaged goods in the last couple of years has in the main been utterly disastrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Petras has proven to be a decent player everywhere else too. He and Straceny were victims of a power struggle between Vlad and Rixxy and it's unfair to judge them on their games for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyjambo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I'd be very surprised if Rixy had anything to do with signing 'The Bullet'. If IIRC it was Rixy that recommended him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 There is no point keeping Bes. He has openly admitted he does not like the SPL- My post about Beslija's comments on another thread Not only would he be taking about half a million pounds out of the club if we keep him for another year, but we'd be taking another year out of this players' career. I didn't mind him as a player but for financial reasons alone, we must sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I think he was unlucky that his first two games for Hearts were back to back Aberdeen games, where he got kicked up and down the park. In other games, I've liked the look of him but something is horribly wrong behind the scenes. I can't help but think he's paying the price for his agents' antics. Buffalo Bill . Can't help but agree. He did look a good player on the few occasions we have seen him so I think he is worth a run. Might not happen though as he probably doesn't fancy playing for us anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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