Jambotommy Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Discuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanliHearts Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 hes a b****** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomullins Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 No chance, he'll sign for a team playing in europe next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Spacey Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 No chance, he'll sign for a team playing in europe next season Aye...... Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBjambo Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 He'd be a cracking addition to the squad! I'd play him before KK even! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanliHearts Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Aye...... Hearts Hopefully, I think if we do get to Europe it will be down to Goal Difference. We need consistency, this is the same team that not long ago were pushing for 1st/2nd.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton'sUnderpants Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 He'd be a cracking addition to the squad! I'd play him before KK even! Blasphemy. I'd have him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Sign him up. Most definately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Yep, please sign him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Blasphemy. I'd have him though. it would a tough choice but have the choice between Sutton and Kyle each week would be an amazing option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Stunning header for their 3rd. Sign him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Yip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Think he'll end up in England but would be a great signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Wilson Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I think he is out of contract in the summer Great goal scoring record in Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sutton_(footballer) Get him signed JJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Stunning header for their 3rd. Sign him up Well it was a good header but Bouzid was there and he missed it but I agree he would be a good acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 No chance, he'll sign for a team playing in europe next season Guess your bottle is not half full - it's empty ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Think he'll end up in England but would be a great signing for us. I would agree with this. Pity though seems to be a good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton'sUnderpants Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Think he'll end up in England but would be a great signing for us. Sure there was mention he is studying in Glasgow or something? Perhaps I imagined it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napier Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Sure there was mention he is studying in Glasgow or something? Perhaps I imagined it. I heard this too, surely an incentive for us if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Can anyone disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie jones Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Would definately take Sutton but feel in addition we need a different type of striker to play with Elliot so we can alter our style of play as and when necessary. Since Kyle has been injured JJ has tried, most of the time unsuccessfully, to play with a target man alongside Elliot instead of trying Robinson alongside him. We don't want to be too predictable and that's why I would prefer Rooney over Sutton although both would great as I can't see Kyle being fit most of the season. In addition we are desperate for two full backs, one to provide cover for LW and although I like CT we don't have a qality RB IMO. If we strengthen in these positions plus an attacking CM we could have a cracking side next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambojim1986 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Definitely the type of player we need to fill KK's boots. Do it Vlad, do it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiac Rucksack Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Should have been signed in jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilson's Shank Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Sure there was mention he is studying in Glasgow or something? Perhaps I imagined it. Studying Chemistry in Glasgow, Heriot Watt has a far better reputation for Chemistry IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/13178359.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinS1874 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 would love to see us sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Can anyone disagree? i know a few Motherwell fans thru work, and they say hes hit a purple patch , but prior to this point he has been nothing special, all said he has a terrible first touch on the ball, can often appear disinterested, the fact hes 27 yrs old now, has played at Norwich, St Mirren Raith Rovers Dundee and Wycombe without really setting the heather on fire kinda tells me we shouldnt get too carried away, id take him as a back up to Kyle, but as a first choice striker no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 I cant believe how exited many on here are at any possibility of this guy signing for us. It was just a couple of years ago that we would have scoffed at the likes of him or Kyle for that matter, joining us, oh how times have changed. Jefferies seems determined to play the big guy up front scenario, and that's fine but we really need quality above any thing else. Kyle is not the answer and neither is Sutton. Neither of those guys where good enough before so what makes them good enough now. Kyle is falling into the injury stricken forward he's always been and Sutton is hit or miss according to the well fans I've spoken to. I know we cant go out and just grab an awesome forward but i was hopeful we would be looking a little higher if we really have aspirations of greater glory. Before anyone gets to bent out of shape, i personally quite like Keven Kyle and think he's an excellent squad player, just not anywhere near as wonderful as many on here think. If we do end up with Sutton I'm sure he'll do well but I'm not going to give up on the thought of Vlad springing for a far better player that really will get us fans excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 From what i have seen of Sutton this season its a bit more than a purple patch ,his movement is good in the box ,seems strong and not easily knocked off the ball . I would say at 27 he has more likely matured into a more than decent SPL striker of course if Vlad can find better for the wage level we have to offer then fair enough but i doubt it . I think Well fans are making excuses so not to feel so bad as he will likely leave . Kyle just a squad player seriously ? he clearly has been missed his injury has been anoying but when fit bossed the teams around us defences another player like Sutton who has matured through the years and might not be a world beater but a top level SPL player ,He scares SPL defenders. He also leads on the park ,a major factor in our good middle of the season . I do think our first priority is a central midfielder who can make a pass can get forward what money JJ has the best part should go on the search for that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbeat Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 From what i have seen of Sutton this season its a bit more than a purple patch ,his movement is good in the box ,seems strong and not easily knocked off the ball . I would say at 27 he has more likely matured into a more than decent SPL striker of course if Vlad can find better for the wage level we have to offer then fair enough but i doubt it . I think Well fans are making excuses so not to feel so bad as he will likely leave . Kyle just a squad player seriously ? he clearly has been missed his injury has been anoying but when fit bossed the teams around us defences another player like Sutton who has matured through the years and might not be a world beater but a top level SPL player ,He scares SPL defenders. He also leads on the park ,a major factor in our good middle of the season . I do think our first priority is a central midfielder who can make a pass can get forward what money JJ has the best part should go on the search for that . http://tribalfootball.com/articles/motherwell-boss-mccall-sutton-has-contract-offer-1588521 well acc to this report after yesterdays game McCall stated Sutton wouldnt get a game at Hearts when Kyle is fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 http://tribalfootball.com/articles/motherwell-boss-mccall-sutton-has-contract-offer-1588521 well acc to this report after yesterdays game McCall stated Sutton wouldnt get a game at Hearts when Kyle is fit You've got to question McCalls man management style, hardly a vote of confidence for Sutton there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 This is the very reason I think we are more inclined to go for Adam Rooney. Rooney will be a more long term acquisition who will learn from KK. http://tribalfootball.com/articles/motherwell-boss-mccall-sutton-has-contract-offer-1588521 well acc to this report after yesterdays game McCall stated Sutton wouldnt get a game at Hearts when Kyle is fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBjambo Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 I cant believe how exited many on here are at any possibility of this guy signing for us. It was just a couple of years ago that we would have scoffed at the likes of him or Kyle for that matter, joining us, oh how times have changed. Jefferies seems determined to play the big guy up front scenario, and that's fine but we really need quality above any thing else. Kyle is not the answer and neither is Sutton. Neither of those guys where good enough before so what makes them good enough now. Kyle is falling into the injury stricken forward he's always been and Sutton is hit or miss according to the well fans I've spoken to. I know we cant go out and just grab an awesome forward but i was hopeful we would be looking a little higher if we really have aspirations of greater glory. Before anyone gets to bent out of shape, i personally quite like Keven Kyle and think he's an excellent squad player, just not anywhere near as wonderful as many on here think. If we do end up with Sutton I'm sure he'll do well but I'm not going to give up on the thought of Vlad springing for a far better player that really will get us fans excited. You really don't pay attention do you?! Sutton fits all criteria for Hearts right now.... he is on form, big physical striker, right age and will command no fee! He is EXACTLY the type of player Hearts are looking at now. Sutton is like a younger KK, only more mobile and fitter! Any player coming to us will be on a free... Vlad won't spend money if he doesn't have to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbeat Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 This is the very reason I think we are more inclined to go for Adam Rooney. Rooney will be a more long term acquisition who will learn from KK. Although it is logical the post after yours sums it up.i.e Vlad wont pay dough and with Rooney only being 23 a development fee would be required to be paid to ICT. Personaly I would like to think that if both are on the radar then the fee would not be significant enough for us to take the cheap option just because it is precisely that. In other words if he rates Rooney higher than Sutton go for the one you really want. After being at Inverness and at Tynie yesterday you would have to say Sutton did more (no brainer really as he scored twice) but I just hope JJ looks into this thoroughly. Taking both is not great for Moral as with KK Ellott and A N Other you have the first choice but guys like Robinson and even Ogilby in the 19s have to have something to aim at. I dont think Ogilby can be that far away after watching him v Gers on Friday. He is big enough, fast enough and makes good runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world_3 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Although it is logical the post after yours sums it up.i.e Vlad wont pay dough and with Rooney only being 23 a development fee would be required to be paid to ICT. Personaly I would like to think that if both are on the radar then the fee would not be significant enough for us to take the cheap option just because it is precisely that. In other words if he rates Rooney higher than Sutton go for the one you really want. After being at Inverness and at Tynie yesterday you would have to say Sutton did more (no brainer really as he scored twice) but I just hope JJ looks into this thoroughly. Taking both is not great for Moral as with KK Ellott and A N Other you have the first choice but guys like Robinson and even Ogilby in the 19s have to have something to aim at. I dont think Ogilby can be that far away after watching him v Gers on Friday. He is big enough, fast enough and makes good runs Yon Messi is far too wee. In fact Barcelona must be pish, their whole midfield is tiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbeat Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Yon Messi is far too wee. In fact Barcelona must be pish, their whole midfield is tiny. do you actually watch us?? Do we mould our team around a messi type player?? did I mention Messi/Barcelona ?? We are looking at the likes of Sutton and Rooney for a reason and that is JJ has a chosen style of play which allows for a big target man striker. Ogilby happens to be in that mould, that was the point whooooooosh Edit : oh aye we aint no Barca either and Messi would be the best player in any league in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 i know a few Motherwell fans thru work, and they say hes hit a purple patch , but prior to this point he has been nothing special, all said he has a terrible first touch on the ball, can often appear disinterested, the fact hes 27 yrs old now, has played at Norwich, St Mirren Raith Rovers Dundee and Wycombe without really setting the heather on fire kinda tells me we shouldnt get too carried away, id take him as a back up to Kyle, but as a first choice striker no thanks. He's scored 50 goals in the SPL. I'm sure I heard on the radio that he's only the 6th or 8th player to do so. To have scored 50 goals for the likes of St Mirren and Motherwell who until last season were perennial relegation candidates is not to be scoffed at. He is exactly the type of player we should be looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Although it is logical the post after yours sums it up.i.e Vlad wont pay dough and with Rooney only being 23 a development fee would be required to be paid to ICT. Personaly I would like to think that if both are on the radar then the fee would not be significant enough for us to take the cheap option just because it is precisely that. In other words if he rates Rooney higher than Sutton go for the one you really want. After being at Inverness and at Tynie yesterday you would have to say Sutton did more (no brainer really as he scored twice) but I just hope JJ looks into this thoroughly. Taking both is not great for Moral as with KK Ellott and A N Other you have the first choice but guys like Robinson and even Ogilby in the 19s have to have something to aim at. I dont think Ogilby can be that far away after watching him v Gers on Friday. He is big enough, fast enough and makes good runs This has been discussed before on here. I'm sure the Under-23 rule doesn't apply if the player hasn't spent time in the club's youth system e.g. was signed from elsewhere as a first-team player. Rooney is a product of someone else's youth system - not ICT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 he looks quicker and far more mobile than KK. KK,sutton,elliott,rooney would do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Get it sorted JJ and Vlad,the guy is gold at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 he looks quicker and far more mobile than KK. KK,sutton,elliott,rooney would do for me. I would be delighted with that. In terms of variety and quality, that would be as strong a set of strikers as Hearts have had in recent times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordy Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Never read it myself, but a mate says he read somewhere that Sutton would prefer a move down south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Unless one of the OF get interested, I think we stand a very good chance. Can't see either of the OF being interested. I'd definitely take him. And not as a back-up for Kyle. He seems more mobile and has a bit more football in him than big Kev as well as having the physical presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Would do a great job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neave Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 I've said this before. We would be daft not to try - Sutton and Kyle up front together would have the opposition defence shitting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 I think he will be with us next season. No doubt Aberdeen and Hibs will give him some token interest but then moan that we can double their wage offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 I think he will be with us next season. No doubt Aberdeen and Hibs will give him some token interest but then moan that we can double their wage offer Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Not nearly injury prone enough for us. It'll never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Sure there was mention he is studying in Glasgow or something? Perhaps I imagined it. John lives in the west end and his missus is looking at opening a shop in the weeg, strong ties up here now and as I said before told me he would love to sign for HMFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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