Tynie b Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Just to let people know, I was kidding when I said we should do it I don't think taking a Tri Colour to Hearts games is a good idea, here's why. We have an element in our support (Not a Small Element) who would be so outraged at this that, IMO trouble would flair up. Maybe not inside the stadium, but certainly outside. The last thing we, Hearts, Need is this to happen, the press would have a F****** Field day. Leave the Flag waving to the Uglies from the Weeg. I'm sure Stephen Elliott (Stop the 2 T's Shit) would appreciate ANY kind of recognition from the Fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Just so am clear the Union flag has a political meaning but the Tricolour doesn't?? I understand you want to use it to support a player,( could the union flag not be in support of our british players?) the point im making is to some it is a political symbol. just like you find the union flag a political symbol. Football players from the home nations tend to be placed as Scots , English, Northern Irish or Welsh rather than British to wave the Union Flag would seem pointless in a football context, The Irish Flag within a Hearts support would clearly point to support for an Irish Player . Not wanting a Flag Debate ban i will stop here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 If you notice everyone on here only wants it to show our support to our player and show how we appreciate him. I hate Celtic as much as the next guy and it makes me sick when you see all these flags flying for the sole intention to show hate. Is it wrong to bring an Irish flag to Tynie for Elliott? Absolutely not! Bring it then. some people will be offended some will applaud. Stop trying to be offended by what im not saying! Im almost in agreement with you but it has a meaning in our society. Zat is my point and i am going to leave this thread b4 the inevitable happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Just to let people know, I was kidding when I said we should do it I don't think taking a Tri Colour to Hearts games is a good idea, here's why. We have an element in our support (Not a Small Element) who would be so outraged at this that, IMO trouble would flair up. Maybe not inside the stadium, but certainly outside. The last thing we, Hearts, Need is this to happen, the press would have a F****** Field day. Leave the Flag waving to the Uglies from the Weeg. I'm sure Stephen Elliott (Stop the 2 T's Shit) would appreciate ANY kind of recognition from the Fans. Scaremongering at it's finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Bring it then. some people will be offended some will applaud. Stop trying to be offended by what im not saying! Im almost in agreement with you but it has a meaning in our society. Zat is my point and i am going to leave this thread b4 the inevitable happens. I never said I was bringing one, just making the point people should be allowed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 If you're offended by an Irish flag you're a **** If you cause trouble because you see an Irish flag you are a massive **** The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I think he has still to get a lot better, dont think he picks his spot when shooting as a natural like Robbo used to do. Seen many an effort go almost straight at the goalie when he has time to pick his spot and an area of goal is totally undefended. Agree his work rate and style of play is excellent just needs to get a clinical finish to become a great player. Or maybe he just shoots with his eyes shut. I think the goals he's scored this season at Easter Rd, Rugby park, Tynie and on saturday at New Douglas park show that he is clinical infront of goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Just to let people know, I was kidding when I said we should do it I don't think taking a Tri Colour to Hearts games is a good idea, here's why. We have an element in our support (Not a Small Element) who would be so outraged at this that, IMO trouble would flair up. Maybe not inside the stadium, but certainly outside. The last thing we, Hearts, Need is this to happen, the press would have a F****** Field day. Leave the Flag waving to the Uglies from the Weeg. I'm sure Stephen Elliott (Stop the 2 T's Shit) would appreciate ANY kind of recognition from the Fans. Unfortunately I have to agree with you. It is clear that some Hearts fans are unable to cope with the sight of a fellow Hearts supporter showing the flag representing the birthplace of a popular player. Still not sure why but I doubt those offended would stop to discuss it anyway. Perhaps the Mods should just close the thread now before the right wing element finish 'work' and log on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwhisky7 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Nothing wrong with taking a flag to a game to show support for the players. On Saturday I took my spanish flag to Hamilton in support of Suso and Palazuelos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Just so am clear the Union flag has a political meaning but the Tricolour doesn't?? I understand you want to use it to support a player,( could the union flag not be in support of our british players?) the point im making is to some it is a political symbol. just like you find the union flag a political symbol. The last bit is the most important point raised in this debate. The Irish tricolor is seen by many as a flag of political meaning and whereas the union flag is tolerated by many in our support the waving of a tricolor would not be. It's all very well chatting about the rights and wrongs of it on a forum but in a the real world anyone waving it in the home support would be highly likely to get there face smashed. Bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Great idea. How about: "Soldiers are we, whose lives are pledged to Elliott; Some have come from a land beyond the wave. Sworn to be free, No more our potent striker Shall miss the target or the pass. Tonight we man the gap of danger In Elliott's cause, come woe or weal 'Mid Tynie's roar and whistles peal, We'll chant a 'Two Ts' song" I just can't think of a melody.... Can't quite place a tune to it either. Keep trying agadoo by black lace but can't get it to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I cant understand why anyone would want to bring ANY flag to a football match. Simple. Quite often an overseas player, seeing his national flag being waved will run over at the end of the game and give his top to the flag waver. A wee flag = ?3.50 Authentic Hearts match top = ?40 (or more if sold on e-bay) I think it's more some cheapskate trying to get a strip on the cheap than any show of support for a particular player if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I've already had a warning on another thread in the past for jokingly saying I was going to take an Irish flag to a Hearts game in support of Elliott so I better not say too much on the topic. I assume there must have been many warnings handed out to posters on this topic already for the same thing. It would be funny to see the reaction of Celtic fans to Hearts fans bringing Irish flags to a match in support of Elliott. Also, it would be interesting to see how the neds who bring union flags to Hearts games would react... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 By christ this thread drafted off topic after 2 posts - it must be some JKB record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I've already had a warning on another thread in the past for jokingly saying I was going to take an Irish flag to a Hearts game in support of Elliott so I better not say too much on the topic. I assume there must have been many warnings handed out to posters on this topic already for the same thing. It would be funny to see the reaction of Celtic fans to Hearts fans bringing Irish flags to a match in support of Elliott. Also, it would be interesting to see how the neds who bring union flags to Hearts games would react... I'm not aware of receiving any warning and I was being serious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Anyone who has any more of an issue with taking an Irish flag to support an Irish player than taking a Spanish flag to support a Spanish player clearly has some mild Hun issues. The Union Flag, whether these Hearts/Rangers fans like it or not, has much more political meaning in modern Britain than a tricolour does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Anyone who has any more of an issue with taking an Irish flag to support an Irish player than taking a Spanish flag to support a Spanish player clearly has some mild Hun issues. The Union Flag, whether these Hearts/Rangers fans like it or not, has much more political meaning in modern Britain than a tricolour does. ... But both have political meanings and can cause trouble at football matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 ... But both have political meanings and can cause trouble at football matches. In every day society the UF has a hell of a lot more political meaning than a tricolour. As the majority of our fans bang on about not being "mini huns" or having/wanting anything to do with the sectarian cancer within our game, why would an Irish flag appearing in the Hearts end have any implications? Surely a proper Hearts fan would see it as a sign of support for one of our players rather than some numpty giving it "Up the 'ra" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 In every day society the UF has a hell of a lot more political meaning than a tricolour. As the majority of our fans bang on about not being "mini huns" or having/wanting anything to do with the sectarian cancer within our game, why would an Irish flag appearing in the Hearts end have any implications? Surely a proper Hearts fan would see it as a sign of support for one of our players rather than some numpty giving it "Up the 'ra" etc. Cigaro's fav shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 The incredible double standards of the average Kickback user is staggering. And quite amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Cigaro's fav shop Your post says a lot more about you than me. Pretty much sums up what a lot of posters have been saying. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 This thread is a solid gold LOLZ to the gallon winner. I think it could be time for a Gorgie return from the Hearts Republican Team (HRT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 In every day society the UF has a hell of a lot more political meaning than a tricolour. As the majority of our fans bang on about not being "mini huns" or having/wanting anything to do with the sectarian cancer within our game, why would an Irish flag appearing in the Hearts end have any implications? Surely a proper Hearts fan would see it as a sign of support for one of our players rather than some numpty giving it "Up the 'ra" etc. I don't disagree. As far as flags at football games go though the union flag and red hand of ulster are largely associated with rangers and the irish flag with Celtic. For that reason i would prefer not to see these flags in the hearts support. Fwiw i would say the same if we had a northern irish player and the red hand was being suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I am sure that every poster on here complaining about the Irish/Elliott connections will have lambasted the same connections on the Andy Kirk thread. I am off to see the likes of i8Hibsh, the Treasurer and Fabien Leclerq having a go at any links to Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanes de Silentio Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 And the Czech flag is for..........Rudi. So the Tricolour can be for.........Stephen Elliott. I am aware of Celtic and Hibs; history but this is a tribute to a popular player, not a political statement. What's the problem? Trolling like **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanov Stole My Pension Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 In terms of football, the union flag has absolutely no relevance at all, there is no British national football team and no British league. So I think it would be difficult to argue that the union flag was anything other than political (and no, people don't carry them for our 'British' players). The tricolour can at least be representative of Irish players, although there's obviously the connotations with Hibs/Celtic. Personally, I would never ever take a tricolour to a game, but I couldn't care less if someone else did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Meurig Thomas Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I was gobsmacked when I saw there was a 4 page thread actually praising one of our players. Then I got to the middle of page 1 and it all clicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanes de Silentio Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Personally, I would never ever take a tricolour to a game, but I couldn't care less if someone else did. I don't have a problem with the tricolour personally. However, when I see one at football matches, I assume that the carrier intends to be provocative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyw_1874 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I'd be more than happy for an English flag to be flown to show support for Andy, except he's declared himself for Scotland. So not sure how that works, do we bring a half Scotland, Half England one instead? Either way I think it's a great idea. I love this. Somebody shows up with that. For the record its called the Union Jack they are called a bigot and told to go to ibrox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 This thread is a solid gold LOLZ to the gallon winner. I think it could be time for a Gorgie return from the Hearts Republican Team (HRT). The Hearts Republican Association would approve of this. As regional commander, I shall submit this suggestion at our next cabinet meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyw_1874 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 In every day society the UF has a hell of a lot more political meaning than a tricolour. As the majority of our fans bang on about not being "mini huns" or having/wanting anything to do with the sectarian cancer within our game, why would an Irish flag appearing in the Hearts end have any implications? Surely a proper Hearts fan would see it as a sign of support for one of our players rather than some numpty giving it "Up the 'ra" etc. Because its associated, by the part of thousands of them through at parkhead to Glasgow Celtic. The same people on this thread giving it the whole "why not its supporting the player bla bla bla" you all have your own agenda. Elliott is a top player. Is on superb form. Lets say Driver comes onto a game, somebody bring a UJ to the game due to him being english and declared for scotland. The abuse on this site for "that element of our support", "i was so close to saying something", "just go to ibrox". Its pathetic. Say what you like here is my opinion. UJ - no place Maroon UJ - Fair enough. Tri coloured - No place at tynecaste Ulster flag - No chance, i detest it being at Tynecastle. St George cross - No. Any form of the Scotland flag is accepted as we are Scottish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Sorry but there would be pandamonium if there was ever a tri-colour in the Hearts end, just because it's for a player would make no difference. Quality player though imo and surely some other form of recognition could be made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Meurig Thomas Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Anyone else extremely disappointed in The Laptop Loyal? You guys always bang on about how you're all intelligent and love winding people up on here, yet here you all are embarrassing yourselves, getting twisted in knots trying to defend your warped views and generally getting wound up. I expected better from you all. You're all just a bit simple, sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Because its associated, by the part of thousands of them through at parkhead to Glasgow Celtic. The same people on this thread giving it the whole "why not its supporting the player bla bla bla" you all have your own agenda. Elliott is a top player. Is on superb form. Lets say Driver comes onto a game, somebody bring a UJ to the game due to him being english and declared for scotland. The abuse on this site for "that element of our support", "i was so close to saying something", "just go to ibrox". Its pathetic. Say what you like here is my opinion. UJ - no place Maroon UJ - Fair enough. Tri coloured - No place at tynecaste Ulster flag - No chance, i detest it being at Tynecastle. St George cross - No. Any form of the Scotland flag is accepted as we are Scottish. I see myself as Scottish before British but whether you like it or not, you ARE also British. So why should a normal UJ not be allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Got the tri-colour ordered for Saturday. Heard it might be a bit chilly so I'm planning on wrapping up warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Because its associated, by the part of thousands of them through at parkhead to Glasgow Celtic. The same people on this thread giving it the whole "why not its supporting the player bla bla bla" you all have your own agenda. Elliott is a top player. Is on superb form. Lets say Driver comes onto a game, somebody bring a UJ to the game due to him being english and declared for scotland. The abuse on this site for "that element of our support", "i was so close to saying something", "just go to ibrox". Its pathetic. Say what you like here is my opinion. UJ - no place Maroon UJ - Fair enough. Tri coloured - No place at tynecaste Ulster flag - No chance, i detest it being at Tynecastle. St George cross - No. Any form of the Scotland flag is accepted as we are Scottish. Czech flag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Meurig Thomas Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Sorry but there would be pandamonium if there was ever a tri-colour in the Hearts end, Says it all about how shit our support is, eh Officer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanes de Silentio Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Got the tri-colour ordered for Saturday. Heard it might be a bit chilly so I'm planning on wrapping up warm. Tell you what - make it a tea-towel and I'm on board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyw_1874 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I see myself as Scottish before British but whether you like it or not, you ARE also British. So why should a normal UJ not be allowed? Because im personally under the opinion that it has no place at Hearts. Like it or not, Its associated to Rangers, in the eyes of many. Its not correct but its just they way it is. Scottish football, like it or not is backwards in its views on needless religion so why participate in any moronic stereotypes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Got the tri-colour ordered for Saturday. Heard it might be a bit chilly so I'm planning on wrapping up warm. I don't care about the rights and wrongs that was ******* funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyw_1874 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Czech flag? Its an entirely different concept as i described above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanes de Silentio Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 So why should a normal UJ not be allowed? Because of the association with Glasgow Rangers - it would encourage talk of us being 'huns without the bus fare', etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 The Hearts Republican Association would approve of this. As regional commander, I shall submit this suggestion at our next cabinet meeting. SPLITTERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Its an entirely different concept as i described above. Without reading your other post. If you don't get caught up in all the patter and football is somthing you go to enjoy it makes no difference. Only Hearts fans with an agenda would say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Every Britsh flag brought to Tynecastle is not to represent our British player. Don't even start with that of you are digging yourself a hole IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyw_1874 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Every Britsh flag brought to Tynecastle is not to represent our British player. Don't even start with that of you are digging yourself a hole IMO. Its got booger all to do with that. Both flags symbolise a pathetic religious argument dating back century's and is bread into individuals from birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Got the tri-colour ordered for Saturday. Heard it might be a bit chilly so I'm planning on wrapping up warm. Hahahahahaha. :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Its got booger all to do with that. Both flags symbolise a pathetic religious argument dating back century's and is bread into individuals from birth. This is the was I see it and don't care much for it. Bring a Bitish/English flag along with Andy or whatever on it. Bring a Tricolour with Elliott on it I couldn't really care. Bring either for any other reasons it's quite sad.(Not only Hearts fans) Only the sad people are dragging it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 The Irish flag is GREEN Bring a Russian flag for our leader. They are nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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