Toxteth O'Grady Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/Hearts-look-to-Germany-and.3909614.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/Hearts-look-to-Germany-and.3909614.jp If it aint broke....DOH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/Hearts-look-to-Germany-and.3909614.jp Don't think there is anything wrong with going to Austria and Germany it's what we do when we get there that worries me.More Piggy backs cartwheels and starjumps no doubt with the mad Mal at the helm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighalders Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 So much for the new manager being in charge of footballing matters, even the pre season will be organised on his behalf, maybe we aint gettin a new manager after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Excellent. We should repeat the Malofeev debacle also. Repeating mistakes is a great way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 The way some folk on here talk about about Romanov ,i would imagine they will be expecting Vlad to annex Austria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 Excellent. We should repeat the Malofeev debacle also. Repeating mistakes is a great way to go. Groundhog Day springs to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tynie Bubbles Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/Hearts-look-to-Germany-and.3909614.jp The Korobochka pic and Penguins montage are worryingly similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 The way some folk on here talk about about Romanov ,i would imagine they will be expecting Vlad to annex Austria. Much as Flogel was a good player for us, I would like Vlad to first annex the Czech Republic this time around. Their players are a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighalders Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 The way some folk on here talk about about Romanov ,i would imagine they will be expecting Vlad to annex Austria. Sorry if anyone is making a big deal of Vlad and his ways of running Hearts, hey whats bottom 6 football, no manager and ?38M of debt got to do with him. So yeah your right - everyone lay off Vlad he's great for Hearts ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Personally speaking - if they finish in the bottom six, I'd make them to do their preseason in Siberia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hearts players arrive for their pre-season training with Her General Malofeev. They are not too impressed with the accomodation either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Sorry if anyone is making a big deal of Vlad and his ways of running Hearts, hey whats bottom 6 football, no manager and ?38M of debt got to do with him. So yeah your right - everyone lay off Vlad he's great for Hearts ok! for feck sake The humour bypass was a complete success then? . was talking at the way some people use world war 2 pathe news reel terminology when describing the Romanovs(something i have done before) ,such as Lopez and co as henchmen and Mann as his lackey mouth piece.comments about lies propaganda etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 So much for the new manager being in charge of footballing matters, even the pre season will be organised on his behalf, maybe we aint gettin a new manager after all Is anyone else struggling with this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Is anyone else struggling with this one? Makes perfect sense to me. Whoever the new manager is should arrange the pre-season, in order that we get the best possible out of it. Which means Hearts should be appointing the new manager in time to arrange pre-season. Otherwise, we are just harming our own chances of success on the field next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkato Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hearts players arrive for their pre-season training with Her General Malofeev. Post of month!! LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Is anyone else struggling with this one? We could always wait until we appoint a manager in the summer and then try to snap up a bargain on lastminute.com ,maybe a couple of weeks in magaluf ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I certainly don't think it was the destinations that were too blame, jsut the training and preparations the players got that were the problem. If a new manager is in place this shouldnt be a concern. I'd certainly be happy with another trip over there, possibly do Austria this time. Essen last summer was an absolute riot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tynie Bubbles Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Post of month!! LOL. I wouldn't have thought my Jewish neighbours would associate that particular camp with humour. But each to there own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Makes perfect sense to me. Whoever the new manager is should arrange the pre-season, in order that we get the best possible out of it. Which means Hearts should be appointing the new manager in time to arrange pre-season. Otherwise, we are just harming our own chances of success on the field next year. Perfect sense? HEARTS are considering holding pre-season training camps in Austria and Germany again this summer in a repeat of last year's double-pronged preparations. You know as well as i do what's supposed to be what with the new preferred manager and where he is at the moment. Should we wait until he is appointed (if he is appointed) and then try and arrange a pre-season in a couple of days? You also know that if that doesn't come off, we will still need to have a pre-season. What harm is there in the current managerial muppets looking at things and, if required, make provisional bookings? Usual reaction out of a nothing story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 We could always wait until we appoint a manager in the summer and then try to snap up a bargain on lastminute.com ,maybe a couple of weeks in magaluf ? TBH, i would be happy to see our current squad down the Gullane sand dunes every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Perfect sense? You know as well as i do what's supposed to be what with the new preferred manager and where he is at the moment. Should we wait until he is appointed (if he is appointed) and then try and arrange a pre-season in a couple of days? I think we should be getting in a manager ASAP who can improve us next season. I don't think we should be waiting till the summer in the hope that we can appoint a manager then. If we have a guy nailed down, and he can't come till the summer, great. Get him to tell us what he wants, and arrange it. If we don't have someone nailed down for the summer, we better get on with finding and appointing someone, otherwise we're in danger of damaging our chances for next year by repeating our mistake of having a poorly organised and poorly executed pre-season. You also know that if that doesn't come off, we will still need to have a pre-season. What harm is there in the current managerial muppets looking at things and, if required, make provisional bookings? Usual reaction out of a nothing story. Just depends who's looking at things, and whether the bookings are provisional. I feel it'll be some Malofeev inspired bs, and our new manager will walk into the same mess we had last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Brilliant, couldn't make it up. Robbie slates pre-season in his press conference, so Hearts decide to do it all over again. [filter edit]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonjambo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hearts players arrive for their pre-season training with Her General Malofeev. Post of month!! LOL. Yeah, those Nazis. Hilarious. You gotta love 'em. GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Crane Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Surely if those conducting said pre-season build-up do it properly, the venue is a minor issue. Whether it be Austria or Timbuktu, as long as the team are adequately prepared, so what? If those in charge of the pre-season bungle it up, then a major issue is created, but again, what will the venue have to do with that? The much derrided Wheelbarrow and piggyback races can be conducted anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Don't think there is anything wrong with going to Austria and Germany it's what we do when we get there that worries me.More Piggy backs cartwheels and starjumps no doubt with the mad Mal at the helm I agree after all the Italian teams all head to training camps in the mountains for about a month. It what they do there although personally two five or seven day trips would suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Surely if those conducting said pre-season build-up do it properly, the venue is a minor issue. Whether it be Austria or Timbuktu, as long as the team are adequately prepared, so what? If those in charge of the pre-season bungle it up, then a major issue is created, but again, what will the venue have to do with that? The much derrided Wheelbarrow and piggyback races can be conducted anywhere. A fair point Matt. For my part, it's not so much the venue, but that fact it seems to be getting organised by the same people and going to the same place as last season (which by all accounts was an unmitigated disaster......) which worries me slightly. It doesn't inspire confidence that the same folks appear to be planning to go to the same place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 The place they go is not the issue, the quality of coaching is. The warning signs for this season were there last pre-season when we got beaten by Kaunas. We all thought "Ach well they had the motivation to win that game and we didn?t". Turned out we were just rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 The place they go is not the issue, the quality of coaching is. The warning signs for this season were there last pre-season when we got beaten by Kaunas. We all thought "Ach well they had the motivation to win that game and we didn?t". Turned out we were just rubbish. Absolutely. I was watching the pre season DVD again a couple of days ago. The location and the facilities look pretty darn good to me. It was evident the coaching was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Absolutely. I was watching the pre season DVD again a couple of days ago. The location and the facilities look pretty darn good to me. It was evident the coaching was not. Are you a masochist or were you just bored??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Barcelona come to Scotland for pre season where the weather is condusive to pre season training, cooler etc, we go to somewhere boiling hot where no real training can be done, as someone else said Gullane Sands would be a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Oh come on. Some pictures of prisoners in concentration camps are 'sensitive' material? Deary me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Absolutely. I was watching the pre season DVD again a couple of days ago. The location and the facilities look pretty darn good to me. It was evident the coaching was not. So did I actually. The problem seems to be Korobochka, Tino, Chervenkov (smoking cigarettes), Koslovski, Malofeev and Girsovicius overseeing it. Let a manager deal with it and magic might happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Are you a masochist or were you just bored??? I've watched it about 4 or 5 times now. I don't sleep particularly well. Hold on....Maybe there's a link;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 :mad:Those ****** wage thieving jokers deserve nothing more than a weekend in Stoke on Trent I'm sick to death of those ^^^^ living the life of rilety while us (the ones that truly matter) get nothing but annoyance and depression. They need a ***** - the entire lot of em I am actually starting to ahte them They are all below average and don't deserve ANY luxuries. Sack the lot of am or flog em -not that you would get much for the sorry shower Frail GTF Romanov GTF 1st Team GTF Reserves GTF The 'Board' GTF I hope they ahve a great laugh when they are over there, perhaps another boxing match!!!! I'm Sure as hell that they wont be doing proper training perhaps spend the entire summer doing set plays, maybe have 2 'decoy' men over every pathetic ball next season!!! :sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I think we should be getting in a manager ASAP who can improve us next season. I don't think we should be waiting till the summer in the hope that we can appoint a manager then. I agree. If we have a guy nailed down, and he can't come till the summer, great. Get him to tell us what he wants, and arrange it. If he is currently in a job, we'd have to approach his club to ask permission, regardless if he did it in his own time or not. If we don't have someone nailed down for the summer, we better get on with finding and appointing someone, otherwise we're in danger of damaging our chances for next year by repeating our mistake of having a poorly organised and poorly executed pre-season. I agree Just depends who's looking at things, and whether the bookings are provisional. Couldn't care less about who's looking at the facilities or who's doing the bookings, provisional or not. All i'm interested in is who the manager is that's in charge of training. I feel it'll be some Malofeev inspired bs, and our new manager will walk into the same mess we had last year. Fretting about it won't change things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I've watched it about 4 or 5 times now. I don't sleep particularly well. Hold on....Maybe there's a link;) Hahaha Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werwolf Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 A fair point Matt. For my part, it's not so much the venue, but that fact it seems to be getting organised by the same people and going to the same place as last season (which by all accounts was an unmitigated disaster......) which worries me slightly. It doesn't inspire confidence that the same folks appear to be planning to go to the same place..... I seem to remember that the players actually thought the venue was first class. The problem was the training and the length of time away from home. I'm guessing here, but if as some people seem to think on other threads that we do have a manager lined up then who is to say he's not having input into these preparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Ahoy there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 If he is currently in a job, we'd have to approach his club to ask permission, regardless if he did it in his own time or not. Of course we would Couldn't care less about who's looking at the facilities or who's doing the bookings, provisional or not. All i'm interested in is who the manager is that's in charge of training. Same here. I hope the manager who is going to be in charge of training next year will be appointed in time to sort out a proper pre-season. Fretting about it won't change things. And saying all will be well won't change things either. Are you suggesting we don't talk about anything? Or just that I shouldn't express concerns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I'm glad i've not booked my flights yet.................... "HEARTS are considering holding pre-season training camps in Austria and Germany again" (taken from link in post 1.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 The problem was the training and the length of time away from home. Problem? What problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 The place they go is not the issue, the quality of coaching is. The warning signs for this season were there last pre-season when we got beaten by Kaunas. We all thought "Ach well they had the motivation to win that game and we didn?t". Turned out we were just rubbish. And the warning signs for last season were there from the season before. We didn't heed them last time. I hope we will this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I'm glad i've not booked my flights yet.................... "HEARTS are considering holding pre-season training camps in Austria and Germany again" (taken from link in post 1.) I emboldened it in black but it never made any difference. Good luck with the dark orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tynie Bubbles Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Oh come on. Some pictures of prisoners in concentration camps are 'sensitive' material? Deary me. No need for the 'Deary me' condescending tone Dr Bapswent:sad: Pictures of people being marched to death camps may not be 'sensitive' material (your words) in this day and age, but they are hardly props for cheap laughs either. Evidently you would disagree. That is one of the perks of living in freedom of speech democracy, which if the people who ran those camps had got their way none of us would be doing. Please don't let me registering a quite valid point, which I am entitled to do unless there are some hierarchy rules on JKB I am not privy to, redirect the course of this otherwise fascinating thread. BTW, if these games go ahead is anyone else going to consider a trip to Austria, I quite fancy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 .....And saying all will be well won't change things either. Are you suggesting we don't talk about anything? Or just that I shouldn't express concerns? Thankfully, i've never said all will be well. We've got enough things to talk about with Hearts without getting all Ayr United over where Hearts are considering holding pre-season and whose doing the looking & booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Have not read the link provided, but did read the article in the paper during my lunch break. The players apparently have indicated they do not want to go back to Austria and Germany, but want some proper pre season training which will help them in the SPL, and I also noted that the club are now considering entering The Intertoto Cup. Why anyone in the back room staff or administration staff who has witnessed the performances at Love Street and Tynecastle over the last fortnight would even consider putting us forward for such a tournament is way beyond me, unless said person enjoys pain and humiliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilenin Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Is anyone else struggling with this one? Nope - the new manager should make decisions about any pre-season training camp. Maybe it needs to be set up this far in advance so it's fair enough to arrange the camp before we get a manager, but it's still a reasonable point for the poster to make and hardly a struggle to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Thankfully, i've never said all will be well. We've got enough things to talk about with Hearts without getting all Ayr United over where Hearts are considering holding pre-season and whose doing the looking & booking. Well, after begin assured on here that Fast Eddy was a fitness expert, and was only here for pre-season anyway, and it wouldn't make any difference etc etc, forgive me if I view the organisation of pre-season as an important matter, and I think avoiding a return to the scene of last years catastrophe would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 No need for the 'Deary me' condescending tone Dr Bapswent:sad: Pictures of people being marched to death camps may not be 'sensitive' material (your words) in this day and age, but they are hardly props for cheap laughs either. Evidently you would disagree. That is one of the perks of living in freedom of speech democracy, which if the people who ran those camps had got their way none of us would be doing. Please don't let me registering a quite valid point, which I am entitled to do unless there are some hierarchy rules on JKB I am not privy to, redirect the course of this otherwise fascinating thread. BTW, if these games go ahead is anyone else going to consider a trip to Austria, I quite fancy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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