grumpy rebus Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 That was harsh, but well done Webb, you've been manures best player for years now son, pat on the back from Fergie at his house for drinks afterwards. C'mon John. That was a shocker. Stevie G's got a habit of lunging in like that and probably gets off with it too often. Maybe he thought Carrick was a DJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Gerrard out of the derby now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Of all the refs to put in charge, they had to appoint Howard "I love maure" Webb ffs! Berbatov is a cheating little barstard! How many times is Webb going to screw Liverpool to the benefit of those glam fecks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Heaney Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 That was harsh, but well done Webb, you've been manures best player for years now son, pat on the back from Fergie at his house for drinks afterwards. John, Deep breath time bud, look at it again, and again if you need to and I think you will agree that it was a red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Get in. I ******* hate that Scouse ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since.1902 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Jim Beglin should just STFU. Jim beglin makes Craig Burley sound like a commentaitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It was a stupid tackle to make. No need for the two feet being up. Two footed tackle going north to south is a straight red. In this case both Gerrard and Carrick were coming from nearly the same direction. Tough for the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Jim Beglin is making a real breast of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Howard Webb fulfilling his contractual obligations at Old Trafford. That was harsh, but well done Webb, you've been manures best player for years now son, pat on the back from Fergie at his house for drinks afterwards. Liverpool fans and Celtic fans are sometimes very difficult to tell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Jim Beglin is making a real breast of himself. This is where the grammar of New Testament (Koine) Greek would be wonderful! They have a tense that means, "has made and continues to make"!!! It was definitely a two-footed jump tackle with no attempt to get at the ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 That was harsh, but well done Webb, you've been manures best player for years now son, pat on the back from Fergie at his house for drinks afterwards. johnmitchell is :seething: :seething: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo_ Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Gerrard on his way to Madrid anyhoo Bye Bye Liverpool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 Lay off ya bunch of tosspots, I've already admitted it was a tad wreckless in post 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Lay off ya bunch of tosspots, I've already admitted it was a tad wreckless in post 100 I don't think it was a red or a penalty. If it was dangerous Carrick would have a broken ankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Red card was probably justified IMO. Lunged in and caught Carrick's ankle. Not seen anyone mention the lunge by Rafael, could have been a lot worse if Meireles hadn't pulled out. Granted Rafael won the ball but he went in with two feet and a yellow for me would have been fair for the lunge alone. The penalty however was a joke. Berbatov could have easily stayed on his feet. Can't believe people say Webb is the best ref in the country, never rated him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 I don't think it was a red or a penalty. If it was dangerous Carrick would have a broken ankle. It was never a spot kick in a million years and one of the clearest dives you'll ever see, Berbatov made the absolute most of it after a hair on Agger's leg apparently touched his sock, but in a double motion he dived like the cheat he is (Never seen any Pool players diving ) The sending off however, after seeing it again, was dangerous mate wit 2 feet off the ground, and 25 years ago that would have been a hearty challenge which wouldn't even have been a yellow, but these days the rules have made sure the game has gone soft and by the letter of the law it was a straight red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmElRoSe28 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Definite red card it was a stupid tackle. Rafael was lucky as his was 2 footed just Meireles pulled out. Never a pen - Webbs been done there. Imagine if that had been given against us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I don't think it was a red or a penalty. If it was dangerous Carrick would have a broken ankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Meurig Thomas Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Hey! Hey John! GIRUY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 Red card was probably justified IMO. Lunged in and caught Carrick's ankle. Not seen anyone mention the lunge by Rafael, could have been a lot worse if Meireles hadn't pulled out. Granted Rafael won the ball but he went in with two feet and a yellow for me would have been fair for the lunge alone. The penalty however was a joke. Berbatov could have easily stayed on his feet. Can't believe people say Webb is the best ref in the country, never rated him. The fact that Rafael wasn't even spoken to for another 2 footed challenge where both feet were off the ground was a joke, the fact that Morieles shit it doesn't come into it for me, it was dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I don't think it was a red or a penalty. If it was dangerous Carrick would have a broken ankle. Good analogy. Likewise, Ian Murray's arial challenge on Ian Black was fair because Black did not get brain damage and played on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 Hey! Hey John! GIRUY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I don't think it was a red or a penalty. If it was dangerous Carrick would have a broken ankle. No, if Carrick's foot had been planted on the ground it he would have had a broken ankle. It was sheer luck that his weight was not on that foot at the moment of impact. Definate red. Called it as soon as I saw it and the replays confirmed it. Penalty was soft but by the letter of the law a penalty. In the modern game it's generally accepted that if you get touched you go down. Every fan in the world would be angry with their own player for not going down when they are genuinely fouled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Good analogy. Likewise, Ian Murray's arial challenge on Ian Black was fair because Black did not get brain damage and played on. Its quite staggering aint it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since.1902 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Giggs rolling back the years, he is still some player even at 35? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It was never a spot kick in a million years and one of the clearest dives you'll ever see, Berbatov made the absolute most of it after a hair on Agger's leg apparently touched his sock, but in a double motion he dived like the cheat he is (Never seen any Pool players diving ) The sending off however, after seeing it again, was dangerous mate wit 2 feet off the ground, and 25 years ago that would have been a hearty challenge which wouldn't even have been a yellow, but these days the rules have made sure the game has gone soft and by the letter of the law it was a straight red. Nah, I disagree. If you lift 2 feet of the ground and go in at knee height then I would classify that as dangerous and an attempt to injure your opponent. I think its another media invented danger. If Gerard wanted to do him,he doesn't get up and carry's on playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Nah, I disagree. If Gerard wanted to do him,he doesn't get up and carry's on playing. IAN BLACK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Good analogy. Likewise, Ian Murray's arial challenge on Ian Black was fair because Black did not get brain damage and played on. Did Murray go for the ball ? Did Gerard go for the ball ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I've been struggling to remember what it is about Torres that stirs an ancient memory, and it's just hit me! It's very reminiscent of the attitude of one of my "heroes", Willie Wallace after he was tapped by Celtic!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Ominous stuff at the moment. Just need to try and weather it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Did Murray go for the ball ? Did Gerard go for the ball ? NO NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It was never a spot kick in a million years and one of the clearest dives you'll ever see, Berbatov made the absolute most of it after a hair on Agger's leg apparently touched his sock, but in a double motion he dived like the cheat he is (Never seen any Pool players diving ) The sending off however, after seeing it again, was dangerous mate wit 2 feet off the ground, and 25 years ago that would have been a hearty challenge which wouldn't even have been a yellow, but these days the rules have made sure the game has gone soft and by the letter of the law it was a straight red. It's shan chat like that has left British football in the dark ages. Absolute bollox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Did Murray go for the ball ? Did Gerard go for the ball ? Most definitely "No" on both occasions!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 The fact that Rafael wasn't even spoken to for another 2 footed challenge where both feet were off the ground was a joke, the fact that Morieles shit it doesn't come into it for me, it was dangerous. Rafael's feet were less than 2 inches off the ground and his studs were never showing. Both feet connected with the ball with no contact on the player. He blocked the ball which was what knocked over Morieles (who totally bottled the tackle). Gerrard deliberately left the ground and went in showing both sets of studs which connected with Carrick's foot and ankle. No comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 Nah, I disagree. If you lift 2 feet of the ground and go in at knee height then I would classify that as dangerous and an attempt to injure your opponent. I think its another media invented danger. If Gerard wanted to do him,he doesn't get up and carry's on playing. Gerrard wasn't trying to "do" him though, he was genuinely trying to get the ball, but in a dangerous manner imo. I'm surprised Webb didn't award manure another spot kick there, one of their players fell over a blade of grass in the box, he must be feeling guilty about something, I wonder what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Did Murray go for the ball ? Did Gerard go for the ball ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy rebus Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Did Murray go for the ball ? Did Gerard go for the ball ? No and no. Two thugs committing assaults. Oh, and Beglin really needs to STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 The fact that Rafael wasn't even spoken to for another 2 footed challenge where both feet were off the ground was a joke, the fact that Morieles shit it doesn't come into it for me, it was dangerous. No doubt. I just think that if Meireles hadn't pulled out of the challenge then Webb would have been more likely to issue Rafael with a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I dont get all this raging about english footy. I like Leeds but if they lose im not that fussed. At the end of the day its just a bit of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 NO NO Most definitely "No" on both occasions!!! So Gerard didn't get the ball then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Ryan Babel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 It's shan chat like that has left British football in the dark ages. Absolute bollox. I prefer old school football, when it was a game for men and not over paid, under worked, pansies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 So Gerard didn't get the ball then ? That wasn't your orginal question. Gerrard, without a shadow of a doubt jumped in the air with both feet aiming for Carrick's ankles. If you don't think thats the case then we obviously have a difference of opinion and will never resolve it. Joe Ledley got the ball when he tackled Ian Black when we played Celtic. Sending off , LF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I prefer old school football, when it was a game for men and not over paid, under worked, pansies. So you long for the days when footballers were kicked from pillar to post. The kind of challenges that forced Marco Van Basten to retire early? There are some aspects of the game which are a shame to have been lost, this is not one of them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiac Rucksack Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Is jonjos caravan parked outside old trafford. Will he be going door to door asking to clear gutters after the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwbRPnoMHTo 2:38, Lionheart. Hope this clarifies matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 So you long for the days when footballers were kicked from pillar to post. The kind of challenges that forced Marco Van Basten to retire early? There are some aspects of the game which are a shame to have been lost, this is not one of them though. Dave Mackay wouldn't last 5 minutes in today's game, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I dont get all this raging about english footy. I like Leeds but if they lose im not that fussed. At the end of the day its just a bit of interest. Very much this. Who gives a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwbRPnoMHTo 2:38, Lionheart. Hope this clarifies matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Dave Mackay wouldn't last 5 minutes in today's game, sadly. Replace Gerard with Whittaker and Carrick with Templeton. Pretty sure you would be playing a different tune. Liverpool looking not to bad atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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