chester copperpot Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 It really really hurts me to say this (as a Diehard Liverpool fan), but I think Cristiano Ronaldo is just out of this world. This should hopefully hold a bit more weight to my argument, as I hate liking players that I shouldn't however I cant see how he can get any better. As I say that, he's just scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 It really really hurts me to say this (as a Diehard Liverpool fan), but I think Cristiano Ronaldo is just out of this world. This should hopefully hold a bit more weight to my argument, as I hate liking players that I shouldn't however I cant see how he can get any better. As I say that, he's just scored. Is that about 31 goals this season? Edit - just checked he's scored 32! Not bad considering he's not a striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Know you are a diehard Andy - should not hurt you though, bud. The guy is pure class. As a football fan, nowt wrong with admitting it. A blind man can see he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 Is that about 31 goals this season? Not bad considering he's not a striker Was just going to mention that when he scored as I typed, so had to submit it so people didn't think I was typing that just because he scored. Same as George best now, WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I can honestly say I am completely neutral when it comes to english football yet I believe Cristiano Ronaldo to be one of the best players in the world, if not the best. I think we'll look back on him much in the same way we do el Diego or Pele or even Neil Macfarlane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Not many players I go out of my way to watch but this guy is out of this world. Has the potential to be a true great. Imagine playing against him, would have a sleepless night worrying about what he might do to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Was just going to mention that when he scored as I typed, so had to submit it so people didn't think I was typing that just because he scored. Same as George best now, WOW. I remember thinking that ?12 Million was a huge amount to pay for an 18 year old at the time. But it looks like the Man Utd players were right when they told Fergie to buy him. Every time he gets the ball he looks dangerous, he must be a nightmare for defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seashell Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I can honestly say I am completely neutral when it comes to english football yet I believe Cristiano Ronaldo to be one of the best players in the world, if not the best.I think we'll look back on him much in the same way we do el Diego or Pele or even Neil Macfarlane. Ronaldo is a great player but best in the world would have to go to Messi, that guy just has so much ability he is a dream to watch!! (imo of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Majestic. What a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the North Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 and another one. In the prem I would pay to watch Ronaldo, Torres or Berbatov whenever or wherever they were playing But Ronaldo is a different class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhjambo Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 How the hell does he do those free kicks? what a strike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbojambo Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 How the hell does he do those free kicks? what a strike! unbelievable !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 I remember thinking that ?12 Million was a huge amount to pay for an 18 year old at the time. But it looks like the Man Utd players were right when they told Fergie to buy him. Every time he gets the ball he looks dangerous, he must be a nightmare for defenders. WOW, thanks Cristiano for proving my point. He's just sensational. If he doesn't win world player of the year (with Torres 2nd then there's something wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Gerald Sibon is my FIFA player of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 Ronaldo is a great player but best in the world would have to go to Messi, that guy just has so much ability he is a dream to watch!! (imo of course) More end product from Ronaldo though sis, even struggling to get Cameron to follow Liverpool now due to the wee boy loving Ronaldo. Just holding on due to Torres this season, but only just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 That's 33 goals this season. And still a hatful of games to go. Who was the last top division striker down south to get 40 in a season? And more importantly who was the last non forward to get anywhere near that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 That's 33 goals this season. And still a hatful of games to go. Who was the last top division striker down south to get 40 in a season? And more importantly who was the last non forward to get anywhere near that? They were just saying Van Nistelrooy got 44 one season. Honestly, how the feck does Ronaldo hit the ball like that?! Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 That's 33 goals this season. And still a hatful of games to go. Who was the last top division striker down south to get 40 in a season? And more importantly who was the last non forward to get anywhere near that? Can remember Clive Allen getting a shed load for Spurs in the mid 80s. Midfielder? Dunno on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 That's 33 goals this season. And still a hatful of games to go. Who was the last top division striker down south to get 40 in a season? And more importantly who was the last non forward to get anywhere near that? Van Nistelrooy got 44 according to Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Van Nistelrooy got 44 according to Sky. And contributed diddly squat apart from the goals. Would be interesting to see Ronaldos assist figures as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 That's 33 goals this season. And still a hatful of games to go. Who was the last top division striker down south to get 40 in a season? And more importantly who was the last non forward to get anywhere near that? Taz, I dont think there's been a non Striker that has got anywhere near 40 goals, but Im not old enough to confirm. He's the best I've ever seen, and that kills me to say that. I can see all the Manc's on this board loving this thread, however there's times where you have to admit defeat, and tonight, if Man Utd where ever to sell Ronaldo, I think it would be down to the Glazier's than anything to do with Football. When I'd heard Utd had signed Ronaldo, wasn't too bothered about them signing a fat Brazilian, however how wrong was I. The boy just oozes class, and I believe will go onto to be named in the same breathe as Pele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Can remember Clive Allen getting a shed load for Spurs in the mid 80s. Yeah, the year Coventry won the Cup (Keith Houchen), I think Allen scored over 50 for Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 It really really hurts me to say this (as a Diehard Liverpool fan), but I think Cristiano Ronaldo is just out of this world. This should hopefully hold a bit more weight to my argument, as I hate liking players that I shouldn't however I cant see how he can get any better. As I say that, he's just scored. Don't understand how something in English football can hurt somebody who's (presumably) Scottish and a Hearts fan. Is it a sign of how bad we have become that our fans need two teams now?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Taz, I dont think there's been a non Striker that has got anywhere near 40 goals, but Im not old enough to confirm. He's the best I've ever seen, and that kills me to say that. I can see all the Manc's on this board loving this thread, however there's times where you have to admit defeat, and tonight, if Man Utd where ever to sell Ronaldo, I think it would be down to the Glazier's than anything to do with Football. When I'd heard Utd had signed Ronaldo, wasn't too bothered about them signing a fat Brazilian, however how wrong was I. The boy just oozes class, and I believe will go onto to be named in the same breathe as Pele. Fergie is worried that Ronaldo will be driven out of English football by the lack of protection he gets. Suppose the only way to stop him is to bring him down. Just want to say, Fergie has got it nailed with this current Man Utd squad IMO. Could well do the double this season. Ronaldo - Tevez - Rooney Could end up being a legendary front line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 Don't understand how something in English football can hurt somebody who's (presumably) Scottish and a Hearts fan. Is it a sign of how bad we have become that our fans need two teams now?! Please dont turn this into something its not mate. Been a Liverpool fan since I was a nipper due to Kenny Dagleish, however credit where credits due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 It really really hurts me to say this (as a Diehard Liverpool fan), but I think Cristiano Ronaldo is just out of this world. This should hopefully hold a bit more weight to my argument, as I hate liking players that I shouldn't however I cant see how he can get any better. As I say that, he's just scored. And I was just getting to like you Andy:p Just wait till Sunday;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seashell Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Don't understand how something in English football can hurt somebody who's (presumably) Scottish and a Hearts fan. Is it a sign of how bad we have become that our fans need two teams now?! My brother Andy has supported Liverpool for as long as I can remember, it's nowt to do with Hearts they will always be his (and mine) first love. It's something we did as children I suppose had a Scottish team and an English team we supported. Mine is Man utd btw and it's something he never lets me forget!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Can remember Clive Allen getting a shed load for Spurs in the mid 80s. Midfielder? Dunno on that one. Striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 When I was younger, I could hit a ball like Ronaldo does now. In the Man U changing room, Ronaldo is known by his team mates as Cristiano Believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Striker. I know he was a striker. Was trying to think of a midfield player who has hit those amount of goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Taz, I dont think there's been a non Striker that has got anywhere near 40 goals, but Im not old enough to confirm. He's the best I've ever seen, and that kills me to say that. I can see all the Manc's on this board loving this thread, however there's times where you have to admit defeat, and tonight, if Man Utd where ever to sell Ronaldo, I think it would be down to the Glazier's than anything to do with Football. When I'd heard Utd had signed Ronaldo, wasn't too bothered about them signing a fat Brazilian, however how wrong was I. The boy just oozes class, and I believe will go onto to be named in the same breathe as Pele. Dinnae talk about the Ronaldo like that. He's a legend. Cristiano still has some way to go to top what the big man did, although he is on the right path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 And I was just getting to like you Andy:p Just wait till Sunday;) At least Im not a gloryhunting English fan (unless you include the 05 CL final mate) but supported Liverpool as long as the JT's if not longer. Obviously the older I got, the more I was drawn towards my local team, however this boy Ronaldo ticks every box I've ever seen. I was never lucky enough to witness Pele, Eusabio etc etc, but for me, he's got more class than any Manchester United player I've ever seen, and that includes Eric Cantona. That wasnt a dig at you horse mate, about the gloryhunting thing That wasn't a dig at you horse mate, the gloryhunting thing. I cant help admitting it when there's a World Class stand out out there. Thats how I regard Ronaldo. Without Ronaldo and Rooney, Manchester United would be ordinary, to say the least. Thats my bitchiness over for the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.C. Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 He still has to do it at the very highest level IMO. Look at Zidane, 3 goals in World Cup Finals and an absolute wonder goal to win the Champions League. Where was Ronaldo in the CL semis last year? Even FA Cup Final? He undoubtedly has tremendous ability, but needs to do in the very biggest games before he can really be considered a great. I'm sure he will do it one day, but he hasn't thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 He still has to do it at the very highest level IMO. Look at Zidane, 3 goals in World Cup Finals and an absolute wonder goal to win the Champions League. Where was Ronaldo in the CL semis last year? Even FA Cup Final? He undoubtedly has tremendous ability, but needs to do in the very biggest games before he can really be considered a great. I'm sure he will do it one day, but he hasn't thus far. I agree to a degree. However, in 1998 Zidane was already 26 years old, Ronaldo is only 23 and has years ahead of him to achieve similar to what ZZ did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 He still has to do it at the very highest level IMO. Look at Zidane, 3 goals in World Cup Finals and an absolute wonder goal to win the Champions League. Where was Ronaldo in the CL semis last year? Even FA Cup Final? He undoubtedly has tremendous ability, but needs to do in the very biggest games before he can really be considered a great. I'm sure he will do it one day, but he hasn't thus far. He is only 22 mate. Plenty time. I remember Zidane Euro 96...awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I would dispute that Christian Ronaldo is not a forward player. I class him as a winger and to me a winger is a forward player. Alex Young was a winger and scoring goals came easy to him too. THe boy is having a cracking season in a cracking Man Utd team. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 People said (pundits etc) that he would not have as good a season as he did last year. Yet he goes from strength to strength and he is still only 23. Pretty remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 According to the BBC the 2nd goal broke George Bests record for goals scored by a winger. All he needs to do now is retire at 27 and make several botched comebacks and he'll be as big a legend;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in leith Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 At least Im not a gloryhunting English fan (unless you include the 05 CL final mate) but supported Liverpool as long as the JT's if not longer. Liverpool's glory days started in the mid-60s. You must be older than the boy with the Andy68 top I've seen at Hearts games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 Liverpool's glory days started in the mid-60s. You must be older than the boy with the Andy68 top I've seen at Hearts games Exactly mate, I was born in '74 The 80's were pretty special as a 'Pool' fan, but I was still too young. Doesn't make you change your team though does it? Anyway, Ronaldo, WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I taught him everything he knows, he's copied all my skills and my six pack. He is however still just a poor imitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I would dispute that Christian Ronaldo is not a forward player. I class him as a winger and to me a winger is a forward player. Alex Young was a winger and scoring goals came easy to him too. THe boy is having a cracking season in a cracking Man Utd team. John No-one stated he's not a forward player. Someone said he's not a striker, which is true. Eckauskas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 No-one stated he's not a forward player. Someone said he's not a striker, which is true. Eckauskas The difference between a forward player and a striker is?? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 The difference between a forward player and a striker is?? John Man Utd play with 2 forwards in their formation, Ronaldo isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I'd say he's done it to an extent at the highest level - was the best player on the pitch against France in the '06 WC semi final, wasn't too shabby against England in the previous round either. Still got plenty of tournaments ahead of him though. Still think United could do with an out and out striker. Rooney is better dropping deep and Tevez, whilst a good forward, you can't see him getting goals week in week out like for example Van Nistelrooy did. What I'm basically saying is they need Klimek in that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Even although the lad plays for manure, I have to admit he's had legendary status with me ever since he pumped England out by getting Rooney sent off, now THAT was class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Man Utd play with 2 forwards in their formation, Ronaldo isn't one of them. So what. Christian Ronaldo is proving himself a better finisher than Rooney and whoever the other forward is in their 4-4-2 formation. Who was not the striker out of Conn Bauld and Wardaugh? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 So what. Christian Ronaldo is proving himself a better finisher than Rooney and whoever the other forward is in their 4-4-2 formation. Who was not the striker out of Conn Bauld and Wardaugh? John And what formation did we play in those days? Pretty much 2-3-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 And what formation did we play in those days? Pretty much 2-3-5 Would that formation work these days? If I was Hearts' manager, I'd use that as an experiment (as I've never seen it used) ....................Banks ..............Karipidis Berra ....Neilson Jonsson Palazuelos Mikoliunas.......................Wallace ........Kingston.........Driver ....................Nade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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