rayzor58 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Clearly you know knackall about football and tend to follow the trend here of having a go at Robbie. He is not our main problem by a long shot and we need more with his attitude on the park. He may not be the best right back in the world but he is usually adequate. As to playing Karapidis at right back, (by the way nobody calls him Kara,)! That is just asking for trouble!Away back to FM 2008 or however it is you young folks learn about football these days! If Robbie is not our main problem we are indeep s*** , 4 goals conceded in 4 games caused by mistakes from this numpty, if he is a RB Beniuseless is a CF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Willie Gibson Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Flimsy - my point leaving the ground last week, teams are beating (or scoring) against as we have been gifting goals. When was the last game you left and thought honestly that the opposition had scored a good goal against us and worked hard for it. Maybe the end product for Well's 1st last week but still could have been avoided before they got to the 18 yard line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Well I hope Robbie 'The Tackle' Neilson is playing cause if he's not we'll be in trouble!!!! Not one other player at the Club right now I'd have at RB. don't tell me we haven't any players at hearts who couldn't play right back. don't tell me we haven't anyone at hearts who isn't a better right back than neilson. please don't tell me !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dipped Flake Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Good point DF....Whoever plays gets should get total support from us in the stands....lets send the docksiders back to the ports with their tails firmly between their legs!!! Purely my opinion tho our new gaffer needs to look at the quality of our defenders at the club! I totally agree WG, especially the 'good point DF bit'!!!!! Seems a long time ago now that our back four was recognised as the best in Scotland, although I suppose the goalie had a lot to do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Moysey Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 [quote=1 Willie Gibson;10543 When was the last game you left and thought honestly that the opposition had scored a good goal against us and worked hard for it. Maybe the end product for Well's 1st last week but still could have been avoided before they got to the 18 yard line Yeah we are giving away some cheap goals but to me the whole Robbie issue hinges on that first goal last week. We were 2-0 up and cruising. Robbie fails to clear a ball with his left foot. He then finds himself marking Hughes, no problem until he decides to turn on his heels and run to cover an imaginary winger and fails to follow the runner into the channel. End result goal. Now, I'm not a Robbie hater, I'm not a Robbie fan. I think he's just plain old average Robbie, sometimes good (10%) sometimes bad (10%) and 80% he's Mr Average. Personally I think it's time to try and find a better than average performer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H J Simpson Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 From my reading of this forum over the past few months, I can exclusively reveal that some people like Robbie and some don't. Originally Posted by bistokid He has been the single most irritating thing at Hearts for the past decade. But isn't that perhaps a tiny bit of an overstatement? To be honest I thought when I read that 'finaly a facually accurate statment on kickback'. This new updated board is magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Opposition teams can only create chances & score goals against us when they have enough possession to create attacking moves - our fullback's repeated poor use of possession / giving the ball away is one of the primary reasons why opponents can start to pressurise us more than they would normally - when the defence & goalkeeping is weak it merely compounds the problem. Neilson might be good enough / loyal to be a squad player or a substitute but no way should he be playing every week - his performances haven't merited him keeping his place in the team and more than a few of the youngsters (J.Thomson, J.Brown, Kelly etc.) deserve a run in the team to see if they can do any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 My usual reply will follow the most predictable and boring thread topic for the last few years... Craig Levein John Robertson George Burley Graham Rix Valdas Ivanauskas John McGlynn Walter Smith Stevie Frail All of these football men have selected Robbie when they could easily have picked someone else. They didn't. But of course some punters on an internet forum know better. C'mon the Tackle!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilston angel Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I refuse to accept he is the only option for RB, we must try somone else there, be it a positional change for another first team player or draft in a young player in the absence of a new signing, he can't be in on sentiment, he's not doing the business to be an automatic choice,time for action is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I totally agree WG, especially the 'good point DF bit'!!!!!Seems a long time ago now that our back four was recognised as the best in Scotland, although I suppose the goalie had a lot to do with that. Our back four has been nothing to write home about since Webster ***ed off. Robbie Neilson does graft etc. But you get to a certain level in football where that's just bot good enough. The only good performance I think I have ever seen from Neilson was against Rangers when we made it 8 (I think) in a row. This was solely due to the fact, Samuel Camazolla, who was a defensive player, was playing infront of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 for the way he shat out of that tackle for motherwells first goal ,he should be emptied big style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Karipidis at right back (couldn't be anyworse than RB) and Kancelskis if he is still around (is he?) I'm sorry,Jenny but IMO Karipidis could,and has,been worse than Robbie.A game against the hobos ain't the time to mess about.Robbie at RB with cover from the middle from Karipidis(more effective in there-wasn't having a go at the guy)and Berra. Hopefully our other players will have already pummelled the rats and it will be immaterial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunxjambo Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 My usual reply will follow the most predictable and boring thread topic for the last few years... Craig Levein John Robertson George Burley Graham Rix Valdas Ivanauskas John McGlynn Walter Smith Stevie Frail All of these football men have selected Robbie when they could easily have picked someone else. They didn't. But of course some punters on an internet forum know better. C'mon the Tackle!! tommy boyd also got 75 caps for scotland. discuss.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 tommy boyd also got 75 caps for scotland.discuss.......................... how many did the right footed left back maurice pass back get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roy Barry Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I'm sorry,Jenny but IMO Karipidis could,and has,been worse than Robbie.A game against the hobos ain't the time to mess about.Robbie at RB with cover from the middle from Karipidis(more effective in there-wasn't having a go at the guy)and Berra.Hopefully our other players will have already pummelled the rats and it will be immaterial. I thought Karapidis played pretty well at right back when he got a run of games in that position at the end of last season. He's had a couple of shockers (RN has more than his fair share) - Dundee utd when he came on as sub springs to mind. Overall I reckon he's a better option at right back than RN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiac Rucksack Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Flimsy - my point leaving the ground last week, teams are beating (or scoring) against as we have been gifting goals. When was the last game you left and thought honestly that the opposition had scored a good goal against us and worked hard for it. Maybe the end product for Well's 1st last week but still could have been avoided before they got to the 18 yard line Could have sorted it on the halfwayline if Robbie had done what he normally does and blootered the ball 35 rows back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunxjambo Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 tomorrow we need K at CB; tomorrow aint for changes or bringing in a youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I thought Karapidis played pretty well at right back when he got a run of games in that position at the end of last season. He's had a couple of shockers (RN has more than his fair share) - Dundee utd when he came on as sub springs to mind. Overall I reckon he's a better option at right back than RN. The Dundee Utd game was one of the games I was thinking of,mate.We'll have to agree to disagree i'm afraid,a win either way will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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