IronJambo Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I hired an Aygo for a few days last week when i was in edinburgh and took it to fort william on a camping trip. all in all the little beast covered a bit more than 450 miles on a full tank (35 litres), an impressive 59mpg. i drive 40 miles a day to work and back and its got me thinking of changing my clio for one of these cars so i can have more beer money. i only really use it for work so space isn't a big deal. these cars are all made in the same factory by the same people, and are the same other than trim (if you ignore the slightly different rear wing on the toyota). does anyone know anything about these cars, and of any reason to opt for the more expensive toyota other than brand snobbery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I hired an Aygo for a few days last week when i was in edinburgh and took it to fort william on a camping trip. all in all the little beast covered a bit more than 450 miles on a full tank (35 litres), an impressive 59mpg. i drive 40 miles a day to work and back and its got me thinking of changing my clio for one of these cars so i can have more beer money. i only really use it for work so space isn't a big deal. these cars are all made in the same factory by the same people, and are the same other than trim (if you ignore the slightly different rear wing on the toyota). does anyone know anything about these cars, and of any reason to opt for the more expensive toyota other than brand snobbery? The other 2 are surrender monkeys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Given the choice I'd take the Toyota every time. Out of the Peugeot and Citreon...probably the Citreon, but I dont know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbodog Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I drove the c1 for a day when my old car was in getting a service. It's great fun to drive, it's like a go kart with a roof. I don't think i could drive one full time though. The best small car i ever drove by a distance was the Toyota Yaris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Given the choice I'd take the Toyota every time. Out of the Peugeot and Citreon...probably the Citreon, but I dont know why. i'd normally say the same. i'd always go japanese or german before anything else. the logic doesn't hold up for these cars though since they're built at the same plant. just makes me wonder if theres something to be overlooked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Get a Rover mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 i'd normally say the same. i'd always go japanese or german before anything else. the logic doesn't hold up for these cars though since they're built at the same plant. just makes me wonder if theres something to be overlooked? I learnt in a C3. My only criticism is that the trim felt clunky and plasticky. The only Peugeot I would buy is a 205 gti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Get a Rover mate. great idea! i'll also get a tvr for weekends spare parts aplenty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 great idea! i'll also get a tvr for weekends spare parts aplenty Surprisingly so;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I drove the c1 for a day when my old car was in getting a service. It's great fun to drive, it's like a go kart with a roof. I don't think i could drive one full time though. The best small car i ever drove by a distance was the Toyota Yaris. had a C1 1.0 courtesy car for week, great fun for the first few days (i'm used to a bigger car) but the fact that you cant overtake and it struggles on duel carriageways is a bit of a pain in the erse! the citroen c2 vtr 1.4 would be a far better option imo. my Mrs Bo has one, its still small and economical but you can also put your foot down and shift when need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'd pick the Renault. Only because I fancied Nicole. Cannot find any of the older ones tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 When I smashed my car a few weeks ago I had a 107 to run about it, I could damn near give myself a blow job as I'm 6ft 2!!! What a hopeless piece of scrap metal it really was, no air con, no mod cons, no nothing, just a basic little skip on wheels, but if you don't do many miles then I suppose it would do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 When I smashed my car a few weeks ago I had a 107 to run about it, I could damn near give myself a blow job as I'm 6ft 2!!! What a hopeless piece of scrap metal it really was, no air con, no mod cons, no nothing, just a basic little skip on wheels, but if you don't do many miles then I suppose it would do the trick. i only do 40 miles a day from london to essex and back on the a13. mostly 3 lanes all the way but 40/50mph limit for the majority of my journey. when you live in london speed isn't really an issue. my clio aint exactly a rocket. i'd only have one with air con though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 i only do 40 miles a day from london to essex and back on the a13. mostly 3 lanes all the way but 40/50mph limit for the majority of my journey. when you live in london speed isn't really an issue. my clio aint exactly a rocket. i'd only have one with air con though That sounds fair enough mate, I'd probably do the same if I was you, although I do around 4-600 miles per week and like my comfort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Get the Toyota - more reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Get the Toyota - more reliable. on what basis? the 3 cars are made in the same factory by the same people and have different badges put on them. do you know something i don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalryJambo Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Top Gear reviewed these cars and basically said they all come from the same factory and are all identical in terms build quality, parts etc. So buy the cheapest one with the spec you want. I can't remember which was the cheapest but as you say brand snobbery basically dictates the difference in price between the three models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Top Gear reviewed these cars and basically said they all come from the same factory and are all identical in terms build quality, parts etc. So buy the cheapest one with the spec you want. I can't remember which was the cheapest but as you say brand snobbery basically dictates the difference in price between the three models. I was going to mention the Top Gear too - they played carball with the Toyotas. As has been said, they are all built in the same factory using the same parts so I cant see how the price differences are justified. I was on contract cars from Toyota for 4 years (a new car every 6 months) and would say that they are enjoyable cars to drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Pah! Ladies cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 on what basis? the 3 cars are made in the same factory by the same people and have different badges put on them. do you know something i don't? There surely has to be some difference in there. Also, I picked up a "what car" magazine a week or two ago and read about the JD power survey (basically a chart about how reliable/easy to live with/costs/dealers) compares lots of cars and all the makes in one big chat. Toyota in particular are always up there in the top of the survey (as do most Japanese cars). Very good dealers apparently too. The Aygo was the best city car. Peugeot and Citreon were way, way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairdin Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I hired an Aygo for a few days last week when i was in edinburgh and took it to fort william on a camping trip. all in all the little beast covered a bit more than 450 miles on a full tank (35 litres), an impressive 59mpg. i drive 40 miles a day to work and back and its got me thinking of changing my clio for one of these cars so i can have more beer money. i only really use it for work so space isn't a big deal. these cars are all made in the same factory by the same people, and are the same other than trim (if you ignore the slightly different rear wing on the toyota). does anyone know anything about these cars, and of any reason to opt for the more expensive toyota other than brand snobbery? Ppffffftttt. Rubbish economy. When I wrote of my Escort GTi earlier in the year, pennies were tight so I bought for an older Peugeot 306 turbo diesel for ?800 as a stop gap. It might look rough round the edges, it might have done 113,000 miles, but it drives superbly, the turbo can out accelerate just about anything and I comfortably get 650-700 miles for my ?52/50 litres of diesel. When the balance of my car insurance claim is finally settled I full intend to spend the ?500 getting this car through it's next MOT and driving it to death. Forget the small cars for economy and check out the french diesel engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuj1 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Mechanically they are identical, so reliability issues will be the same across all 3 cars, although the Aygo will hold more of it's value after 3 years. We've got a few 107's in the work, drive like go-karts but wouldn't want to be in one all the time, but in your situation, it'll be ideal. Don't go near a Picanto, the clutch pedal feels as if it'll snap after a couple of 1000 miles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Have you considered a Smart? Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuj1 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Have you considered a Smart? Seriously. Do they do manuals? Only ever driven auto versions and you'll get whiplash through each gear, they're ******g shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I dunno, never driven one. Just seems perfect for what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuj1 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 The Aygo's initial outlay would be less than the Smart, probably cheaper to maintain, same tax band as the Smart, plus a decent boot, if you fold the seats down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic1874 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Not want to disagree here mate - but youngest son got Aygo 2 years ago, car was only 3months old - got good deal, ex wife has the Yaris and i have the Rav 4 - none of us had any problems with the above so not snobbery not a issue i would say tried and tested - no complaints - oldest son got Ford Puma [ flash git ] ha ha - so love him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Have you considered a Smart? Seriously. very very briefly, but i don't think its worth the extra cost. i'm just going to mull over it for the next few months then see what a dealer can throw up. i'd rather keep the car i've got but it seems stupid if i can change it for something that suits my needs and have another ?80-?100 a month in my pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Whats the spec on the Twingo like, if you'd prefer the Renault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Whats the spec on the Twingo like, if you'd prefer the Renault? its not fit for purpose. uses a 1.2L engine and the fuel economy isn't much better than my clio's (50.4mpg are the official figures). emissions also make it ?120 for road tax http://www.renault.co.uk/cars/model/newtwingo/ecoefficiency.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 How about a 1.3 CDTi Corsa Diesel? ?35 year tax. 65+ mpg on a long run. It's a turbo diesel so you will have the same torque as most standard 1.8 petrols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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