Official Golf geeks gibber thread

[Shooter McGavin]

Back to back wins for the Scots, cracking stuff!

[Armageddon]

The “Hawk Tuah” shouts at the Open are absolutely chronic.

[1971fozzy]

Thoroughly enjoyed watching the open. A worthy winner. 
felt for Rose as some putts just missed for him. 

[Ray Gin]

On 19/07/2024 at 20:16, Armageddon said:

The “Hawk Tuah” shouts at the Open are absolutely chronic.

 

It is way, way beyond time that all the "hawk tuah" pish was put to bed. Absolute cringe.

[hmfc_liam06]

Played in the McDonald Trophy at Leven yesterday, a unique competition that takes place over the original course - 9 holes at Leven and 9 holes at Lundin. 

 

Superb track and they really should utilise it more, even having an open on the Saturday with the McDonald Trophy on the Sunday. I'm sure folk would pay a decent entry fee to play it.

[Samuel Camazzola]

51 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

Played in the McDonald Trophy at Leven yesterday, a unique competition that takes place over the original course - 9 holes at Leven and 9 holes at Lundin. 

 

Superb track and they really should utilise it more, even having an open on the Saturday with the McDonald Trophy on the Sunday. I'm sure folk would pay a decent entry fee to play it.

I've heard of this lay-out. Did it start at Leven? 

[hmfc_liam06]

26 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

I've heard of this lay-out. Did it start at Leven? 

 

The 3 clubs take turn hosting it, starting hole is at the host club. As for the original course, I'm not sure where the original first was, maybe @joondalupjambo knows the answer to that. Flow wise my guess would be the original first was the first at Leven.

The holes are:

Leven 1-5
Lundin 15-5

Leven 13-15 and 18

[Samuel Camazzola]

2 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

The 3 clubs take turn hosting it, starting hole is at the host club. As for the original course, I'm not sure where the original first was, maybe @joondalupjambo knows the answer to that. Flow wise my guess would be the original first was the first at Leven.

The holes are:

Leven 1-5
Lundin 15-5

Leven 13-15 and 18

Sounds good and provides something different. 👍 

[joondalupjambo]

2 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

The 3 clubs take turn hosting it, starting hole is at the host club. As for the original course, I'm not sure where the original first was, maybe @joondalupjambo knows the answer to that. Flow wise my guess would be the original first was the first at Leven.

The holes are:

Leven 1-5
Lundin 15-5

Leven 13-15 and 18

https://www.scottishgolfhistory.org/oldest-golf-courses/1846-leven-links/

 

Think this should explain both courses history and the McDonald Trophy 👍

 

PS Did you mean 2 clubs?

[hmfc_liam06]

41 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said:

https://www.scottishgolfhistory.org/oldest-golf-courses/1846-leven-links/

 

Think this should explain both courses history and the McDonald Trophy 👍

 

PS Did you mean 2 clubs?

I’m sure the 3 clubs take turn hosting, last year was LT, this year was LGS.

[joondalupjambo]

44 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

I’m sure the 3 clubs take turn hosting, last year was LT, this year was LGS.

Ah ok sorry see what you mean.  I just think Leven forget that there are the two clubs in that set up.  Lundie advertised it as Leven hosting I think but will check.

[Bigsmak]

So I watched the Bryson Trump you tube video - Trump came across as OK and Bryson is still really likeable.  Its weird 

 

 

Edited July 24, 2024 by Bigsmak

[Shooter McGavin]

13 minutes ago, Bigsmak said:

So I watched the Bryson Trump you tube video - Trump came across as OK and Bryson is still really likeable.  Its weird 

 

 

Trumps putting stroke might be the worst I've ever seen 😄

[kila]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Trumps putting stroke might be the worst I've ever seen 😄

 

It's horrendous! Bet they probably filmed that 20 times before he finally holed it.

 

 

[kila]

 

 

[Byyy The Light]

Anybody done Turkey for a golf holiday?

 

Looking at going next April, 4 families but the guys will be looking at getting 3 or 4 rounds in.

 

Any advice on hotels? Is it better to stay in hotels associated with courses for better green fees etc?

 

Hotel would need to have all the usual water parks and that to keep the kids happy. 

 

Any tips much appreciated. 

[hmfc_liam06]

1 hour ago, Byyy The Light said:

Anybody done Turkey for a golf holiday?

 

Looking at going next April, 4 families but the guys will be looking at getting 3 or 4 rounds in.

 

Any advice on hotels? Is it better to stay in hotels associated with courses for better green fees etc?

 

Hotel would need to have all the usual water parks and that to keep the kids happy. 

 

Any tips much appreciated. 

 

Take your own clubs, the club hire is brutal over there. I paid £40 and got a battered old mixed set.

 

If you want to play the same course then an associated hotel makes sense. If you want to play 3 or 4 different courses then it'll make no odds.

 

You're roughly £100 per round.

 

Recommend the Robinson Nobilis course, although you won't go wrong no matter which courses you play.

[Byyy The Light]

14 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

Take your own clubs, the club hire is brutal over there. I paid £40 and got a battered old mixed set.

 

If you want to play the same course then an associated hotel makes sense. If you want to play 3 or 4 different courses then it'll make no odds.

 

You're roughly £100 per round.

 

Recommend the Robinson Nobilis course, although you won't go wrong no matter which courses you play.

Appreciate that cheers. Second person who’s mentioned Robinson Nobilis to me.

[hmfc_liam06]

1 minute ago, Byyy The Light said:

Appreciate that cheers. Second person who’s mentioned Robinson Nobilis to me.

 

Think it flies under the radar a bit as it's the last course on that stretch of land. However, it was the closest to me as I stayed in the Belek Beach Resort.

 

We done what you're planning, family holiday and some golf (albeit it was only the one round).

[Irufushi]

Trump Turnberry for me in just over a week, I cannot wait! Hardly played this year but Im buzzing to play Turnberry! 
 

Anyone on here played it before? 

[Byyy The Light]

16 minutes ago, Irufushi said:

Trump Turnberry for me in just over a week, I cannot wait! Hardly played this year but Im buzzing to play Turnberry! 
 

Anyone on here played it before? 

I played it before the changes and it was great before them. You’ll be in for a treat

[Byyy The Light]

28 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

Think it flies under the radar a bit as it's the last course on that stretch of land. However, it was the closest to me as I stayed in the Belek Beach Resort.

 

We done what you're planning, family holiday and some golf (albeit it was only the one round).

Usually just the boys do a UK based golf trip and the Mrs all go and do something somewhere else.

 

Sick of the weather lottery staying here 

[merrymac]

20 minutes ago, Irufushi said:

Trump Turnberry for me in just over a week, I cannot wait! Hardly played this year but Im buzzing to play Turnberry! 
 

Anyone on here played it before? 

Played it a few times but before the changes. It’s my favourite open course for playability and there are some cracking holes. Managed an eagle two at the hole you tee off down towards the  lighthouse , the 9th I think.

hope you get a good day you will really enjoy it 

have fun 👍

 

[Sex Panther]

On 28/07/2024 at 18:56, Byyy The Light said:

Anybody done Turkey for a golf holiday?

 

Looking at going next April, 4 families but the guys will be looking at getting 3 or 4 rounds in.

 

Any advice on hotels? Is it better to stay in hotels associated with courses for better green fees etc?

 

Hotel would need to have all the usual water parks and that to keep the kids happy. 

 

Any tips much appreciated. 

 

Stayed at the Sueno a few years - played their 2 courses (Pines & Dunes) along with the Maxx Royal, the National and another one that escapes me just now, possibly the Pasha. 

 

I know it's already about 50% more than we paid when we went but its a great all inclusive hotel and the Deluxe part of the hotel is geared towards families. (The smaller "golf" hotel is was more than adequate us too, and we had access to the Deluxe for meals and drink)

 

I know its a lot cheaper to play where you stay so the Sueno maybe worth a look, given it has 2 courses both of which are very good.

[Mikey1874]

Olympic golf

 

http://www.fawanews.com/Olympic Games Paris 2024 --- CH 4.html

[Samuel Camazzola]

Good coverage of the Olympic Golf via Eurosport/Discovery+. 

 

Great number in attendance and the course is looking fantastic. 

 

Quite a few finding the water already. 

[sac]

On 30/07/2024 at 08:02, Sex Panther said:

 

Stayed at the Sueno a few years - played their 2 courses (Pines & Dunes) along with the Maxx Royal, the National and another one that escapes me just now, possibly the Pasha. 

 

I know it's already about 50% more than we paid when we went but its a great all inclusive hotel and the Deluxe part of the hotel is geared towards families. (The smaller "golf" hotel is was more than adequate us too, and we had access to the Deluxe for meals and drink)

 

I know its a lot cheaper to play where you stay so the Sueno maybe worth a look, given it has 2 courses both of which are very good.

We did the same year before covid. My m8 & our wives in the golf hotel with full access to the Delux for the all inc bit.

becuse we were a 2 ball we got paired up with randoms for all four rounds, no big deal as we met some decent folk, but something to be aware of.

[Statts1976uk]

Spoiler

 

 

[merrymac]

On 03/08/2024 at 15:18, Statts1976uk said:

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Fake news 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Ron Swanson]

50! Fifty points won one of the divisions in stableford comp this weekend. 

[Samuel Camazzola]

11 minutes ago, Ron Swanson said:

50! Fifty points won one of the divisions in stableford comp this weekend. 

😄 What course and what handicap? Surely must be a rogue 24 getting two shots on some holes whilst making birdies. 

[Ray Gin]

6 minutes ago, Ron Swanson said:

50! Fifty points won one of the divisions in stableford comp this weekend. 

 

Absolute banditry

[Tommy Brown]

On 03/08/2024 at 15:18, Statts1976uk said:

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Still not as good as Kim Jong Un

Edited August 4, 2024 by Tommy Brown

[hmfc_liam06]

12 hours ago, Ron Swanson said:

50! Fifty points won one of the divisions in stableford comp this weekend. 

 

I'm actually scunnered with golf the now.

Between my game going to shit and then on the rare occasion I play well and beat handicap I'm losing out to some bandit with a net 60. Competition golf is potentially in real danger.

[hmfc_liam06]

Throw in the blatant cheating for prizes. Be it scramble cheats or individual hole prizes at opens.

 

It's always someone out late snapping up everything...

[Samuel Camazzola]

19 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

Throw in the blatant cheating for prizes. Be it scramble cheats or individual hole prizes at opens.

 

It's always someone out late snapping up everything...

I like the WHS for it being personally reflective of current form but bandits are exposing the loopholes whilst playing in scrambles and betterballs. 

 

Two chancers from an Edinburgh club had their winnings withheld as it was identified they had been scooping prizes whilst playing off false handicaps. 20&21 handicap shooting - 1 gross through betterball. 😂

[kila]

Not got scratch, A's and B's for competition results? That way high handicapper bandits just win the B's rather than ruining the whole thing.

 

[hmfc_liam06]

12 minutes ago, kila said:

Not got scratch, A's and B's for competition results? That way high handicapper bandits just win the B's rather than ruining the whole thing.

 

 

The issue with that is B section tends to be 10+, and as an 11 handicapper I'm still getting ****ed over. On a good day I'm hitting 2 or 3 under handicap. The bandits are rocking in at 8, 9, 10 under.

[hmfc_liam06]

54 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

I like the WHS for it being personally reflective of current form but bandits are exposing the loopholes whilst playing in scrambles and betterballs. 

 

Two chancers from an Edinburgh club had their winnings withheld as it was identified they had been scooping prizes whilst playing off false handicaps. 20&21 handicap shooting - 1 gross through betterball. 😂

 

I've zero issues with the WHS, people still worked the old system anyway. But there are 2 major issues for me.

Increasing the handicap from 28 to 54. Competition should be capped and you also should not be allowed to enter a competition until you have X amount of scores submitted, that way your handicap is somewhat true.

 

But worst of all is general play. This is where folk are cheating. You can literally sit on your couch, start a round, and stick any score you want in. There's zero accountability. Have 3 green scores coming off in the next 3 and you have a match play tie midweek? Stick some fake scores in and up your handicap.

 

For me, general play should be done via the club. You should declare the round to the pro shop prior to play, and a signed card must be handed back in for the pro/club to process. Now, it still might not get around folk cheating, your mate can sign any made up score. But it at least removes the folks sitting on the couch sticking in fake scores.

[Statts1976uk]

14 hours ago, Tommy Brown said:

Still not as good as Kim Jong Un

Trying his best though! I've heard that at some of his clubs that he is almost the de facto club champion and senior champion. If he thinks that he could beat the champion then he installs himself as the new champion.

[merrymac]

2 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

I've zero issues with the WHS, people still worked the old system anyway. But there are 2 major issues for me.

Increasing the handicap from 28 to 54. Competition should be capped and you also should not be allowed to enter a competition until you have X amount of scores submitted, that way your handicap is somewhat true.

 

But worst of all is general play. This is where folk are cheating. You can literally sit on your couch, start a round, and stick any score you want in. There's zero accountability. Have 3 green scores coming off in the next 3 and you have a match play tie midweek? Stick some fake scores in and up your handicap.

 

For me, general play should be done via the club. You should declare the round to the pro shop prior to play, and a signed card must be handed back in for the pro/club to process. Now, it still might not get around folk cheating, your mate can sign any made up score. But it at least removes the folks sitting on the couch sticking in fake scores.

Dont know how its done Liam but we have to be at the course before you can register for a general play score

[merrymac]

3 hours ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

I like the WHS for it being personally reflective of current form but bandits are exposing the loopholes whilst playing in scrambles and betterballs. 

 

Two chancers from an Edinburgh club had their winnings withheld as it was identified they had been scooping prizes whilst playing off false handicaps. 20&21 handicap shooting - 1 gross through betterball. 😂

Been going on for years . Around 20 years ago I payed in a comp with first prize a trip to the States. The guys we played with (from memory around 10 handicaps),were hitting it like pro,s(you just know by the sound of the strike), and had some ridiculous score.I approached the organisers and questioned their handicaps, they then phoned their home club who had never heard of them. The new system certainly stops that kind of thing, but its now easy to falsify your handicap and for it to be legal, which is potentially worse.

I would never enter a Texas scramble as its rife in that format.   

[merrymac]

3 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

The issue with that is B section tends to be 10+, and as an 11 handicapper I'm still getting ****ed over. On a good day I'm hitting 2 or 3 under handicap. The bandits are rocking in at 8, 9, 10 under.

The other issue is the increasing prevalence of Stableford comps which makes it near impossible for a lower handicap player to win. I would need to break the course record every time to have a chance😧.

Scratch prizes are an endangered species🤣

[hmfc_liam06]

22 minutes ago, merrymac said:

Dont know how its done Liam but we have to be at the course before you can register for a general play score

 

You don't have to be, you can start a round at a course as long as you are within a certain proximity. I think it's like 2 miles or so. 

[Tommy Brown]

I play a lot of opens, but any prize is a bonus.

Swanston seniors was won with 46 points (24 h/c playing to 14)

 

I don't let it bother me. 

It's me v the course firstly.

Got 2nd I'm my age group at Dundas last week.

Got the longest putt on 18th at Swanston. Don't tell Liam that I was last out.. The putt was only about 15 feet.

Got a sleeve of balls and a pack of wife beater beers.

 

 

[merrymac]

13 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

You don't have to be, you can start a round at a course as long as you are within a certain proximity. I think it's like 2 miles or so. 

Well ours wont even work in the car park🤣🤣

[hmfc_liam06]

5 minutes ago, merrymac said:

Well ours wont even work in the car park🤣🤣

 

😅

[kila]

3 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

I've zero issues with the WHS, people still worked the old system anyway. But there are 2 major issues for me.

Increasing the handicap from 28 to 54. Competition should be capped and you also should not be allowed to enter a competition until you have X amount of scores submitted, that way your handicap is somewhat true.

 

But worst of all is general play. This is where folk are cheating. You can literally sit on your couch, start a round, and stick any score you want in. There's zero accountability. Have 3 green scores coming off in the next 3 and you have a match play tie midweek? Stick some fake scores in and up your handicap.

 

For me, general play should be done via the club. You should declare the round to the pro shop prior to play, and a signed card must be handed back in for the pro/club to process. Now, it still might not get around folk cheating, your mate can sign any made up score. But it at least removes the folks sitting on the couch sticking in fake scores.

 

Don't think the handicap secretaries at clubs would be happy with the extra work of recording every submitted general play score! How would clubless golfers submit a general play score?

 

Recording general play scores is good, but agree it's easily open to abuse. Maybe to prevent couch scores, the course starter has to confirm on their end before you tee off. Not sure how that'd work for courses that just have honesty boxes though. Maybe a QR code that updates throughout the day.

 

[Samuel Camazzola]

4 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

I've zero issues with the WHS, people still worked the old system anyway. But there are 2 major issues for me.

Increasing the handicap from 28 to 54. Competition should be capped and you also should not be allowed to enter a competition until you have X amount of scores submitted, that way your handicap is somewhat true.

 

But worst of all is general play. This is where folk are cheating. You can literally sit on your couch, start a round, and stick any score you want in. There's zero accountability. Have 3 green scores coming off in the next 3 and you have a match play tie midweek? Stick some fake scores in and up your handicap.

 

For me, general play should be done via the club. You should declare the round to the pro shop prior to play, and a signed card must be handed back in for the pro/club to process. Now, it still might not get around folk cheating, your mate can sign any made up score. But it at least removes the folks sitting on the couch sticking in fake scores.

I thought it worked off a close proximity GPS setting. I attempted to record a score for the Eden in the car park but had to walk towards the 1st tee for it to identify I was there. I've had the same at the Fairmont also. 

 

Competition scores should include a handicap limit of 21 for prize purposes. Also, if there has not been at least three home scores returned within a 12 month period, players should be restricted from competing for prizes in Opens. The bandits would get flushed out. 

[Samuel Camazzola]

1 hour ago, merrymac said:

Been going on for years . Around 20 years ago I payed in a comp with first prize a trip to the States. The guys we played with (from memory around 10 handicaps),were hitting it like pro,s(you just know by the sound of the strike), and had some ridiculous score.I approached the organisers and questioned their handicaps, they then phoned their home club who had never heard of them. The new system certainly stops that kind of thing, but its now easy to falsify your handicap and for it to be legal, which is potentially worse.

I would never enter a Texas scramble as its rife in that format.   

It's sad. Generally when I play a different course, it's to experience it at a good green fee rather than aspire for any of the prizes.