Rawrrrrrrr Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7892881.stm Are judges and sheriffs in this country really thick morons? Yes it was a breach of the peace but given there was no dispute that these were drug dealers ruining the persons life then its utterly scandalous he was jailed. Even a fine would have been OTT and he should have been admonished. No doubt the smackheads will use his imprisonment to rob and terrify an unprotected family. The police probably still won't bother their arses either. Rock on the british justice system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I doubt the police and the judge particularly wanted to jail him either but if vigilante action isn't condemmed then the whole judiciary is impotent. Cue hundreds of responses of PC GONE MAD MA HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I doubt the police and the judge particularly wanted to jail him either but if vigilante action isn't condemmed then the whole judiciary is impotent. Cue hundreds of responses of PC GONE MAD MA HA If you honestly believe that he got what he deserved then god help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If you honestly believe that he got what he deserved then god help you. Not like an American to bring God into this Ps. How are the reading comprehension classes over that side of the Atlantic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedp6873 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If you read it properly he was jailed for threaten to kill someone and taking the matter into his own hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 I did read it. He didnt use any force or weapon, he simply swore at a bunch of smackheads and poured their supplies away. If he had used force or had a weapon then the vigilante slant would be acceptable but I personally think the guy should be applauded for standing upto the smackheads rather than letting them ruin their lives as the police cried there was nothing they could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Not like an American to bring God into this Ps. How are the reading comprehension classes over that side of the Atlantic? Someone hasn't seen Anchorman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Someone hasn't seen Anchorman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertracoon Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I think if it had been the other way round the smackhead would have got a rehabilitation order or some other b0ll0cks. The world really has gone mad given the fact the guy has been jailed for essentially taking 5 bags of heroin off the street. My favourite quote is where the judge tells him to phone the police. I would hope that after 7 months or whatever it was he might have called them a couple of times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Someone hasn't seen Anchorman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertracoon Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Someone hasn't seen Anchorman... what's Anchorman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 what's Anchorman? He is a superhero with butter related powers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertracoon Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 He is a superhero with butter related powers ? really? you learn something new every day. Was he a Marvel character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I did read it. He didnt use any force or weapon, he simply swore at a bunch of smackheads and poured their supplies away. If he had used force or had a weapon then the vigilante slant would be acceptable but I personally think the guy should be applauded for standing upto the smackheads rather than letting them ruin their lives as the police cried there was nothing they could do. Why didn't he phone the Police so they could raid the house, seize the drugs and arrest the dealers. Surely they would then be sent to prison? Everyone's a winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Why didn't he phone the Police so they could raid the house, seize the drugs and arrest the dealers. Surely they would then be sent to prison? Everyone's a winner! Phone them and tell them your neighbours dealing smack and see what happens:mw_rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Phone them and tell them your neighbours dealing smack and see what happens:mw_rolleyes: You sound like a guy talking from experience there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Phone them and tell them your neighbours dealing smack and see what happens:mw_rolleyes: knowing tayside police very little. Would be interesting to know if any action was taken against the dealer at a later date. I also find it hard to believe that in a small village like Blairgowrie the police dont know where the dealers live. To be fair to the tayside police they have recently cleaned up a lot of dealers out of dundee in an on going operation maybe with the help of dealers neighbours and other dealers ,what is amazing is that the many junkies in the city have found other dealers to get there crap from ,who would have thunk it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Phone them and tell them your neighbours dealing smack and see what happens:mw_rolleyes: I'd like to think they would act. You infer that they wouldn't, even although Im pretty sure in previous posts you have harped on about if you make a complaint to the Police they are duty bound to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 I'd like to think they would act. You infer that they wouldn't, even although Im pretty sure in previous posts you have harped on about if you make a complaint to the Police they are duty bound to investigate. You would hope they would but tbh its one of those cases were I can see the law being heavily balanced in the criminals favour with no way of the police being able to do much other than document complaints and try and evict them long term. Ultimately I can see why the guy did what he did and in the absence of physical violence and a weapon I just feel its scandalous a judge jailed him. As someone has already said you can guarentee the dealers and Junkies wont get a hard sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 You would hope they would but tbh its one of those cases were I can see the law being heavily balanced in the criminals favour with no way of the police being able to do much other than document complaints and try and evict them long term. Law balanced in favour of criminals? An oxymoron surely? The Police could raid the gaff, find the narcs and nick the dealers. Ultimately I can see why the guy did what he did and in the absence of physical violence and a weapon I just feel its scandalous a judge jailed him. As someone has already said you can guarentee the dealers and Junkies wont get a hard sentence Two months for threatening to kill someone? Is that a hard sentence in your book? Still, you seem to be arguing for vigilante justice and the courts and judicial system just gets in the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I find the bit " Drummond was reported to the Police by another addict" a bit confusing to me it makes it sound like Drummond is also an addict although the other information contradicts that. The sentence might be stiff, but tjhere was death threat, there may also be some hope that it will act as a deterrent to stop others from doing it. He wouldn't do that here, in the last ten days or so we have had something like nine shootings over drug gang wars. They are now getting into gunfights in broad daylight in shopping mall parking lots. Its like the wild west in the Vancouver area. They estimate there are now somewhere in the region of 160 gangs all involved in the drug trade, they are armed with automatic weapons, wear body armour and have cars that have been armoured. I assure you if he had done what he done in the Vancouver area he would now be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I thought this was going to be some sort of self-critique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praha06 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Whilst I completely agree with the sentiment of this thread, if you dont take action, publicly against the guy who broke into the flat then suddenly you have a whole bunch of vigililanties(sp) out there doing the same thing. As another poster said, the authorities probably didnt want to do anything, but felt they had to to avoid the consequences as I have stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertracoon Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I thought this was going to be some sort of self-critique. arf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP1874 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 This law is an ass, on the same day a guy gets 3 years (maxium was 5) for killing 6 people in an accident he could have prevented. Another guy gets locked up for 2 months for taken a small quanity of drugs off the street & "treatening" to kill some junkie. Hell i would be inside for a few months myself for threatening someone in that case! I understand i shouldn't compare the cases, just wanted to make a small point on how unfair the law looks to be. The perception is serious criminals get off lightly. P.S. I wonder if the police have still got the details of the addict that complained in the 1st place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 This law is an ass, on the same day a guy gets 3 years (maxium was 5) for killing 6 people in an accident he could have prevented. Another guy gets locked up for 2 months for taken a small quanity of drugs off the street & "treatening" to kill some junkie. Hell i would be inside for a few months myself for threatening someone in that case! I understand i shouldn't compare the cases, just wanted to make a small point on how unfair the law looks to be. The perception is serious criminals get off lightly. P.S. I wonder if the police have still got the details of the addict that complained in the 1st place? I was going to say i would have killed him. But iwas dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynie b Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I was going to say i would have killed him.But iwas dead WHAT????? Doug, You're burstin ma Heid with your posts!!! :108years: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 P.S. I wonder if the police have still got the details of the addict that complained in the 1st place? The senior police man for the blairgowrie area just happened to be on the local radio tay this morning, making an announcement about how funds are to be released to improve policing in the Blair area to tackle crime blah de blah ,I wonder why . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus Prime Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Why didn't he phone the Police so they could raid the house, seize the drugs and arrest the dealers. Surely they would then be sent to prison? Everyone's a winner! In a ideal world yes, but this is on the assumption that the Police are a competent outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Benoit Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 The fact is that this guy was a well known dealer in the area and the guy who was arrested only made threats after previously asking the dealer several times not to sell drugs to a member of his family, i think it was his brother in law, because he continued to supply him the guy lost his temper and mad some threats and personally i think a suspended sentence would have sufficed. The biggest problem Prancer seems to have and i agree with him on this is that still nothing has been done about this drug dealer while a family man is sitting in prison. Also has to be noted that the sheriff who sent him away has in the past 12 monts given a dealer 240hrs community service and another a fine while letting a youth worker who had sex with a 15 yr old 180hrs community service, now tell me a 2 month sentence was justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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