Robertson9 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 How is this imposter still getting a game for club and country. He's absolutely dire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 How is this imposter still getting a game for club and country. He's absolutely dire Can't say i'm bothered about that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm a huge Scotland fan and i'd much rather have Ferguson in our midfield than not. The last qualifying campaign he was absolutely immense for Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 He's pesh. He couldn't lace his elder brother's boots. He WAS a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 He's pesh. He couldn't lace his elder brother's boots. He WAS a player. Absolute nonsense. Derek showed promise in his early Rangers career, nothing more. A wasted talent. Compare their careers and see for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 How is this imposter still getting a game for club and country. He's absolutely dire Cos he plays for Rangers that's why!! Always thought he was overated, as for his brother Derek....he came to Hearts and was totally pizd off that his beloved Rangers didn't want him, never convinced me he wanted to be there, another ned-boy, just like "wee Barry" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I think this thread contains vague sectarian references. Ooops, wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 He's pesh. He couldn't lace his elder brother's boots. He WAS a player. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I think this thread contains vague sectarian references. Ooops, wrong thread. AHM GONA REPORT YOO 2 DA MODZ!1!!!!one!! ROFLz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts_crazy Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 How is this imposter still getting a game for club and country. He's absolutely dire Long may that continue. He is ridiculously over-rated, but surely this has been discussed on here before. Are you trying to rouse our resident mini huns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboceej Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Absolute nonsense. Derek showed promise in his early Rangers career, nothing more. A wasted talent. Compare their careers and see for yourself. Derek Ferguson was on the radio yesterday saying he played his best football at Hearts......think they were talking about players only getting international recognition when they're at the old firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 AHM GONA REPORT YOO 2 DA MODZ!1!!!!one!! ROFLz. I now fully expect you to be allowed to make 26 posts on this thread but not indulge in debating the thread topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winningways Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 How is this imposter still getting a game for club and country. He's absolutely dire Not the player he was.As for his brother,the money we paid for him was well over the odds for what we got performance wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I now fully expect you to be allowed to make 26 posts on this thread but not indulge in debating the thread topic. I couldn't care less about this topic. But you are a **** for discussing it. BOOOO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Derek Ferguson was on the radio yesterday saying he played his best football at Hearts......think they were talking about players only getting international recognition when they're at the old firm. Souness obviously didn't think Derek Ferguson was good enough or he wouldnt've sold him to us. On the point of players getting recognition depending on what team they played for, look no further than Tosh McKinlay, spent 6 years at Hearts, not a sniff of a cap, within a month or so after selling him to Celtic, he was in the Scotland squad. It's almost as if the SFA refuse to cap players unless the "bigott brothers" think they're good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Souness obviously didn't think Derek Ferguson was good enough or he wouldnt've sold him to us. On the point of players getting recognition depending on what team they played for, look no further than Tosh McKinlay, spent 6 years at Hearts, not a sniff of a cap, within a month or so after selling him to Celtic, he was in the Scotland squad. It's almost as if the SFA refuse to cap players unless the "bigott brothers" think they're good enough! Always has been and always will be. Look at the clamour for Fleck to be included in the Scotland squad after only 4 games. Do you think he would be quoted if he played for a club outwith the Ugly Sisters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Souness obviously didn't think Derek Ferguson was good enough or he wouldnt've sold him to us. Graeme Souness, the man who signed: Torben Piechnik Ali Dia Istvan Kozma And who singlehandedly almost destroyed Benfica with his signing policy. As far as judges of talent go, I'm not sure he's the best example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboceej Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Souness obviously didn't think Derek Ferguson was good enough or he wouldnt've sold him to us. On the point of players getting recognition depending on what team they played for, look no further than Tosh McKinlay, spent 6 years at Hearts, not a sniff of a cap, within a month or so after selling him to Celtic, he was in the Scotland squad. It's almost as if the SFA refuse to cap players unless the "bigott brothers" think they're good enough! He was one of the ones they mentioned, was ridiculous he never got caps with us, but as others have said it always has and always will be like that. It was the same with the last crop of fester road wunderkids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboruss Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 The portybelly side scuttler is a FUD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Graeme Souness, the man who signed: Torben Piechnik Ali Dia Istvan Kozma And who singlehandedly almost destroyed Benfica with his signing policy. As far as judges of talent go, I'm not sure he's the best example. Richard Gough, Terry Butcher, Trevor Steven, Chris Woods, Graham Roberts, David Robertson, even Mo Johnston, i'm not saying for one minute that Souness didn't sign a few turkeys, every manager does, he did sign these players. The point was that if he didn't think Ferguson was good enough, he wouldn't have sold him to us. Lets not forget, he didn't rate Dave McPherson either, he only went back to Rangers because Souness left, least we got one decent player from him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 How is this imposter still getting a game for club and country. He's absolutely dire Wash your mouth out. He's one of the greatest players ever spawned by the mighty Gers. If not for homesickness and the fact English isn't his first language he'd have taken the premier league by storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Both Old Firm teams are littered with average players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris 84 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Derek Ferguson was on the radio yesterday saying he played his best football at Hearts...... That's actually really frightening cause apart from two semi finals; one V's Airdrie at Hampden and one v's Rangers at Parkhead he was absolutely murder for us!!! any overhyped teenager for anyone of the ugly sisters has a earnings span of around 10yrs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Absolute nonsense. Derek showed promise in his early Rangers career, nothing more. A wasted talent. Compare their careers and see for yourself. At least Derek Ferguson knew how to pass the ball in a forward direction!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Tom Boyd (now there's a face I would never tire of punching) was another who played pretty well while at Motherwell but only got capped significantly after moving to the OF. Also heard DF on Off the Ball, was sticking up for his wee bro big style. can still remember a shout from the Shed area "Derek Ferguson, he was a steal" just before he sliced a pass twenty yards away from the intended recipient. Was it 850 grand we paid for him? Those were the days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 How is this imposter still getting a game for club and country. He's absolutely dire COS hes a hun:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Complete nonsense in my opinion. Barry Ferguson was and still is a great football player. Really gets to me how Barry seems to get slated time and time again, just for the sake of it. A lot of people just jump on the slag barry band wagon. Far too many peope are quick to jump on any small errors made, highlighting them ten fold.... Yet he is rarely praised for the great things he does. Vogts, McLeish, Smith and Burley have all made him Scotland captain for a reason. Souness made his captain of Blackburn. Everyone forgets a fractured kneecap hampered his time in England. He is as cool as u like on the ball and you very rarely see a miss placed pass. He makes it look so easy it can often go unoticed. Barry can control and dictate the tempo of a game. I would have him at Hearts in a heartbeat. Stewart couldn't lace his boots. He is the best centre mid in Scotland bar none IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Complete nonsense in my opinion. Barry Ferguson was and still is a great football player. Really gets to me how Barry seems to get slated time and time again, just for the sake of it. A lot of people just jump on the slag barry band wagon. Far too many peope are quick to jump on any small errors made, highlighting them ten fold.... Yet he is rarely praised for the great things he does. Vogts, McLeish, Smith and Burley have all made him Scotland captain for a reason. Souness made his captain of Blackburn. Everyone forgets a fractured kneecap hampered his time in England. He is as cool as u like on the ball and you very rarely see a miss placed pass. He makes it look so easy it can often go unoticed. Barry can control and dictate the tempo of a game. I would have him at Hearts in a heartbeat. Stewart couldn't lace his boots. He is the best centre mid in Scotland bar none IMO. He's the onlyscottish player playing just now that can imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 At least Derek Ferguson knew how to pass the ball in a forward direction!!! I was delighted when Derek signed for us but he never produced on a regular basis and to say he did is falacy. Only really had decent games against the old firm and i struggle to remember him really stringing any form together. I remember listening to him speaking about his time with us and him saying his dad hates Hearts fans because of the stick he got here. He could've been a superb player but his early promise at Rangers was never reproduced anywhere else imo. Barry isn't the best player in the world but i rate him and he's a better player than he gets credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Complete nonsense in my opinion. Barry Ferguson was and still is a great football player. Really gets to me how Barry seems to get slated time and time again, just for the sake of it. A lot of people just jump on the slag barry band wagon. Far too many peope are quick to jump on any small errors made, highlighting them ten fold.... Yet he is rarely praised for the great things he does. Vogts, McLeish, Smith and Burley have all made him Scotland captain for a reason. Souness made his captain of Blackburn. Everyone forgets a fractured kneecap hampered his time in England. He is as cool as u like on the ball and you very rarely see a miss placed pass. He makes it look so easy it can often go unoticed. Barry can control and dictate the tempo of a game. I would have him at Hearts in a heartbeat. Stewart couldn't lace his boots. He is the best centre mid in Scotland bar none IMO. Are you ****ing joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm saying he is rarely praised by those who jump on the Slag barry band wagon..... Its always negative. He doesn't get enough credit from a lot of people. And those who think he is over praised or claim he is dire just don't watch the same game I do.... Cracking, very gifted player. To me, it's blindingly obvious. I dont understand those who can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambie15 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Barry Ferguson is s***e end of IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 At least Derek Ferguson knew how to pass the ball in a forward direction!!! Maybe occasionally! He was known as the crab because he always passed sideways, another player would make a good move forward expecting Ferguson to give a him a return pass, more often than not, Ferguson would slow the game down by passing wide or back the way, giving our opponents time to get back in numbers to defend. Don't know how many times there was howls of "**** sake Ferguson try passing forward ya f***** usless b******". He was an okay player who never fullfilled any potential he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertson9 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Worst Rangers player on the park today i reckon. Little wonder he returned from the EPL with his tail between his legs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Said it before and will say it again for the hard of hearing. Most overated Scottish footballer since Paul McStay. Absolute guff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Barry Ferguson is very over-rated, yes. However, I still like to see him in a Scotland top. A very good player, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Ferguson's definitely overhyped, as many players in OF sides inevitably are, but he is a quality player, one of the few in the country. He has his limitations, as all players do, but to be fair, the game can't always be played going forward at ninety miles an hour, and Ferguson is useful at keeping possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The injury free Barry Ferguson at his peak, both before and after Blackburn, was the best player in the SPL by a country mile. He's not injury free now, in fact he's been playing against medical advice this season and will probably end up a cripple because of it. He should stop playing asap because he certainly cant cut it at the level he's playing at anymore. Everyone who has ever observed him as a player must accept this. However, he was never as committed to Scotland as he was to Rangers and the fact that he HAS to go through this painful demise, because despite his limitations he is still important to Rangers, is strangely but perversely pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Barry F is not bad. He's just not that good either. He was put on a pedestal by his club and the Daily Record. A poster boy for the commercial dept at Ipox to sell strips and tickets. Sadly that's created a myth that he is the greatest player of the last decade. 9/10 games you don't see him cause he is busy marking/breaking up play. When you do see him, he's usually living up to his Barry Backpass nickname. Then there's the 1 out of 10 when he plays a blinder. What's annoying is it's rare that he performs for Scotland. as noted - not as bad as some think, not as good as the media make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 He is much worse than he used to be. On his day a very good passer of the ball and links the play well with strikers. However I have always been disapointed with his lack of passion for the national team. We always seem to do better without him anyway. his career is potentially over. rangers are paying him a fortune as well...haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Ferguson is probably past his best - but he is still easily the best Scottish central midfielder about by a country mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynie b Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Complete nonsense in my opinion. Barry Ferguson was and still is a great football player. Really gets to me how Barry seems to get slated time and time again, just for the sake of it. A lot of people just jump on the slag barry band wagon. Far too many peope are quick to jump on any small errors made, highlighting them ten fold.... Yet he is rarely praised for the great things he does. Vogts, McLeish, Smith and Burley have all made him Scotland captain for a reason. Souness made his captain of Blackburn. Everyone forgets a fractured kneecap hampered his time in England. He is as cool as u like on the ball and you very rarely see a miss placed pass. He makes it look so easy it can often go unoticed. Barry can control and dictate the tempo of a game. I would have him at Hearts in a heartbeat. Stewart couldn't lace his boots. He is the best centre mid in Scotland bar none IMO. Jesus H Christ...You must be really pess'd off at people (Rightly) Slagging your Overrated son Mrs F...That's some blurb you've just posted there!! Bazza the Crab FergusHUN is THE most overrated Player EVER in the History of Scottish Football...He makes Aiden McGayday look world class!! How I Laughed when I heard of his injury at Blackburn!! I don't give a **** about how bad that makes some feel...There's a lot on here (Me included) who wish the worst on Webster, I hope Bazza gets a doin first!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Ferguson's a very good player, IMO. People don't want to see the truth, though. It suits them to say he's ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney19 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Barry Ferguson was decent before he was found out in the EPL against the likes of Vieira and Scholes and others. He came back to Rangers, captaincy was taken off Ricksen and hes been s*** ever since. Barry the crab is one of the most overated players in the SPL ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney19 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Ferguson is probably past his best - but he is still easily the best Scottish central midfielder about by a country mile. Considering Scott Brown is a better player than him. If hes that good how has he not won a league in the past 4 years then? Hes overated vastly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Considering Scott Brown is a better player than him. If hes that good how has he not won a league in the past 4 years then? Hes overated vastly. IF FABREGAS IS THAT GOOD HOW HAS HE NOT WON A LEAGUE IN THE PAST 4 YEARS THEN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney19 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 IF FABREGAS IS THAT GOOD HOW HAS HE NOT WON A LEAGUE IN THE PAST 4 YEARS THEN? Im not talking about Fabregas whats with the caps got something wrong with your computer but Fabregas was part of the Spain 2008 winnning side in Euro 2008, so hes won soemthing major in the last 4 years compared to Barry. Im talking about Ferguson who is one of if the not the most overated player in SPL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Im not talking about Fabregas whats with the caps got something wrong with your computer. Im talking about Ferguson who is one of if the not the most overated player in SPL history. BUT YOUR ARGUMENT COULD BE APPLIED TO FABREGAS AS WELL. MAYBE THAT SHOW IT'S A BIT RUBBISH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Considering Scott Brown is a better player than him. If hes that good how has he not won a league in the past 4 years then? Hes overated vastly. AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHH!!!!! what has scott brown done or acheived to indicate he's better than Ferguson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 He's pesh. He couldn't lace his elder brother's boots. He WAS a player. I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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