tartofmidlothian Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/Hearts-set-to-appoint-new.4944052.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The manager will consult Anatoli Korobochka, Hearts' sporting director" SHUDDER!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBjambo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Robbie! He'll still be here next season, Kari won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The manager will consult Anatoli Korobochka, Hearts' sporting director" SHUDDER!! So Vlad's picking the new captain then. Woohoo. I hope Vlad picks Robbie, just to see a certain poster squirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'm pretty certain Karipidis became the first non British captain of Hearts, in a competitive game, when he took over from Robbie on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Unless they both sign new contracts then both are free agents in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Having gone to the committee I expect Csaba to come back and confirm Zaliukas as captain I expect the usual suspects to back both that decision, and also the about-turn of Csaba and the contradiction it presents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Robbie for Captain, Stewart for Vice Captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Who captained Hearts at ibrox in may 2006? Was it Skacel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Who captained Hearts at ibrox in may 2006? Was it Skacel? Yup - think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number16 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Who captained Hearts at ibrox in may 2006? Was it Skacel? i believe so edit: beaten to it, why can't i delete posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'm pretty certain Karipidis became the first non British captain of Hearts, in a competitive game, when he took over from Robbie on Saturday. Who captained Hearts at ibrox in may 2006? Was it Skacel? Yup - think so So there goes that idea then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 So there goes that idea then.. he did say "in a competive game". That game at ibrox was meaningless. :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'm pretty certain Karipidis became the first non British captain of Hearts, in a competitive game, when he took over from Robbie on Saturday. Surely Stephane Adam pulled on the armband at some point, even just because of a sub or something? Flogel? Stamp?? Interesting point, hopefully wiser posters can enlighten us. EDIT: Sorry, not Stamp. You said 'non-British', not 'non-Scottish'! Doh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'd actually let Larry loose with the captaincy. Controversial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'd actually let Larry loose with the captaincy. Controversial. wouldn't surprise me if thats what Vlad does. Higher potential sell on value than Karapidas (out of contract) or Robbie (cause he's Robbie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'd actually let Larry loose with the captaincy. Controversial. Very. Especially if the team follows his lead. Means we'd only put in a performance every 1 game in 5. Not the sort of record I think any of us want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 wouldn't surprise me if thats what Vlad does. Higher potential sell on value than Karapidas (out of contract) or Robbie (cause he's Robbie). Not because either of them are suitable for the position. Heaven forbid. That wouldnt fit with a conspiracy, behind the scenes, Vlad meddling view of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Not because either of them are suitable for the position. Heaven forbid. That wouldnt fit with a conspiracy, behind the scenes, Vlad meddling view of things. Who would you give the captaincy to Baps? As for the topic, I would agree with those being the prime contenders, but, it surely has to be Robbie for Captain and Karipidis for Vice Captain. Robbie has been here for such a long time and gives his all and this decides it for me. Stewart would be a disaster, the last thing we need is a captain who runs around moaning at folk when he makes mistakes or making suicidal challenges when he balls up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Not because either of them are suitable for the position. Heaven forbid. That wouldnt fit with a conspiracy, behind the scenes, Vlad meddling view of things. Indeed. Couldn't possibly just be an opinion, cause that wouldn't fit with your "JR's a conspiracy theorist" conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walton1983 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 wouldn't surprise me if thats what Vlad does. Higher potential sell on value than Karapidas (out of contract) or Robbie (cause he's Robbie). Difficult to captain the team from the bench:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Who would you give the captaincy to Baps? As for the topic, I would agree with those being the prime contenders, but, it surely has to be Robbie for Captain and Karipidis for Vice Captain. Robbie has been here for such a long time and gives his all and this decides it for me. Stewart would be a disaster, the last thing we need is a captain who runs around moaning at folk when he makes mistakes or making suicidal challenges when he balls up. A Captain requires respect of both his team mates and the refs - that generally comes with experience. He has to have the right temperament, and be prepared to lead by example on the field, both in playing through tough games, and also sticking up for the team. He also has to be able to establish a dialogue with the team and refs during a game. He has to be a mainstay of the team, regulalrly playing, not in and out. This for me leaves 3 contenders - Bruno, Karipids and Robbie. Id like Bruno to have it. He is not the youngest, has the right temperament and I think gets respect. He is certainly a fans favourite. Karapidis also has the required qualities, and I have seen him try and get the team involved, but my concern is that he might be too quiet. Robbie is the obvious choice, as he also fits all the criteria and has the level of experience at the club. In truth, either of these 3 would be ok for me. I expect it will be Robbie. Stewart and Kingston simply dont have the correct nature, and inconsistent style of play to be a mianstay of the team, and therefore rule themselves out of being a Captain. Alternatively id take Pressley back or Fyssas and give it to them in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalryJambo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I think they use the Captains role to increase the sell on value of a player. So Kari might be ahead of robbie for that reason. It might also encourage him to stay/sign a new contract, further increasing his value. Using the last two examples (Gordon and Berra) it hasn’t always been the most suitable candidate selected. Very few would have said berra was the obvious choice. So for next season could it be Jonsson, Wallace or the Balogh. Not because they are the best suited, but it will add value. Hopefully CL will get the men HE wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 i think we should operate without a captain. we've gone down the route of playing without strikers, so why not a captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Garcia Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 We had this discussion on Saturday at game and between three of us, we had three choices, one being Robbie (my bros choice), one being Kari (our mates choice) and the last being mine was Eggy. All very good candidates IMO and i wouldnt be too displeased with any of them. One who i cant make my mind up is Stewart, at times i think he would be great captain material and and other times, the word BOLT comes to mind. Perhaps captain will mature him and sort his attitide, something has got too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Craig Thomson's emergence & progress might well be giving them some serious food for thought over what kind of future contract offer is made to Neilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Craig Thomson's emergence & progress might well be giving them some serious food for thought over what kind of future contract offer is made to Neilson? Stop being ridicolous Thomson maybe is a very good prospect, however, he is 18 and if he can't get on the bench before Jason Thomson he can't be anywere near being a long term replacement for Robbie. Brown is more of a threat to Robbie and in all honesty I would be surprised if Robbie isnt our first choice RB for a good few more years as well as captain. If he is overlooked on the other hand then I wonder if he will look to leave, certainly not something I would want to see happen. Since he came back from injury he has made that RB his own and proven himself to be one of the better RB's in the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 So there goes that idea then.. Foreigners who SHOULD have been captain, if only for one game: Gilles Rousset Takis Fysass Stefano Salvatori Pasquale Bruno Tam Flogel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 Barring loan spells, Robbie's that rarest of things these days - a one club player. Regardless of the captaincy (which I think he deserves, although might be overlooked for in favour of a more saleable talent, ie Kari, Eggy) that's why I hope he ends his career with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Since he came back from injury he has made that RB his own and proven himself to be one of the better RB's in the SPL. Post of the year so far Robbie is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Gary Naysmith was only 17-18 & hadn't featured before he burst through & completely dislodged the established Neil Pointon who was a very solid & reliable senior player who'd played well for us & hadn't let us down....August is another 7 months away and if C.Thomson continues to make progress in the next 7 months like he has in the last 7 months then it will be very difficult to keep him out the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 If both where to stay, i'd give it to Kari, but i sincerely doubt he'll still be here next season. Robbie probably will still be here next season, so he's the most likely. I stick by my call that Eggert would be a decent call, despite his young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Maybury would have captained the team at some point I'm sure -non British. What about Pasquale Bruno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Gary Naysmith was only 17-18 & hadn't featured before he burst through & completely dislodged the established Neil Pointon who was a very solid & reliable senior player who'd played well for us & hadn't let us down....August is another 7 months away and if C.Thomson continues to make progress in the next 7 months like he has in the last 7 months then it will be very difficult to keep him out the team. says the man who argued we should play Mole ahead of Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Gary Naysmith was only 17-18 & hadn't featured before he burst through & completely dislodged the established Neil Pointon who was a very solid & reliable senior player who'd played well for us & hadn't let us down....August is another 7 months away and if C.Thomson continues to make progress in the next 7 months like he has in the last 7 months then it will be very difficult to keep him out the team. So its ok to throw full backs into the lions but not, say, strikers such as Glen? Why would putting Thomson in the team be right but not Glen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'M IBRAHIM TALL Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'm pretty certain Karipidis became the first non British captain of Hearts, in a competitive game, when he took over from Robbie on Saturday. Surely Wilfried Ouefiou was captain at least once. If not I want to know why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Gary Naysmith was only 17-18 & hadn't featured before he burst through & completely dislodged the established Neil Pointon who was a very solid & reliable senior player who'd played well for us & hadn't let us down....August is another 7 months away and if C.Thomson continues to make progress in the next 7 months like he has in the last 7 months then it will be very difficult to keep him out the team. Completely disagree Its not difficult at all to comprehend why we play Neilson before him and Brown, both have a lot to do before they can make a reasonable claim to that jersey. The fact that Jason Thomson is seen as more of a first team player than them both says it all as well as frankly Thomson isnt fit to clean Neilson's boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 So its ok to throw full backs into the lions but not, say, strikers such as Glen? Why would putting Thomson in the team be right but not Glen? Craig Thomson is playing better and more consistently than Glen this season ... however i didn't say put Thomson in the team - what iam saying is that his emergence is reminiscent of Naysmith's emergence and i think come the start of the season he will be battering down the door for a first team place - if that proves to be the case and the coaches & management agree with that assessment they might consider what they offer Neilson if there is a good chance he will be pushed aside by one of our most promising youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'M IBRAHIM TALL Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I wouldn't be against the thought of Kari being made captain. If anything it might persuade him a wee bit more to sign on again should we offer him a new deal. Which I think we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 So its ok to throw full backs into the lions but not, say, strikers such as Glen? Why would putting Thomson in the team be right but not Glen? Anything to have a dig at oor Robbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Karipidis is not brave enough to be captain. Neilson should be offered a new 3 year deal and the captaincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Karipidis is not brave enough to be captain. Neilson should be offered a new 3 year deal and the captaincy. Why only 3 years? 5 years would be more sensible surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Why only 3 years? 5 years would be more sensible surely? 3 years is the right length for good experienced proven players I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teepee17 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'm pretty certain Karipidis became the first non British captain of Hearts, in a competitive game, when he took over from Robbie on Saturday. Julien Brellier captained Hearts the first game after Elvis was "released" did he not ? Ivanauskas was quoted in the week leading up to it saying that Hearts fans would be happy with his choice of captain for that weekend's game. Think Robbie was injured at that point. Might be wrong - sure you'sll tell me quick enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 3 years is the right length for good experienced proven players I think. But with the market being so poor right now, we will be in a strong position to negotiate. Given Robbie is clearly going to be a Hearts player for the rest of his career, we'd be as well tying him to a 5 year deal now when market conditions favour clubs rather than players..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H J Simpson Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Foreigners who SHOULD have been captain, if only for one game: Gilles Rousset Takis Fysass Stefano Salvatori Pasquale Bruno Tam Flogel I'm sure he did in his last competative game. He ran around like a madman kicking anything that moved if it was not in a maroon jersey. He gut subbed early on before his final appearance ended in a red card. The man was quality!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 But with the market being so poor right now, we will be in a strong position to negotiate. Given Robbie is clearly going to be a Hearts player for the rest of his career, we'd be as well tying him to a 5 year deal now when market conditions favour clubs rather than players..... There's apparently someone in the Tynecastle U-12s who will be ready by the end of that 5 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 There's apparently someone in the Tynecastle U-12s who will be ready by the end of that 5 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyJambo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'd be happy with either Kari or Robbie. In fact I don't much care who it is as long as it ain't Stewart or Larry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'm sure he did in his last competative game. He ran around like a madman kicking anything that moved if it was not in a maroon jersey. He gut subbed early on before his final appearance ended in a red card. The man was quality!!! Ha Ha! I don't remember that, but he's just went even higher in my estimatations!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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