jamboscott Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 so who is the player shabba wants? detective work required "I have a candidate (to replace Berra] and if the club get this player, I will be very happy," said Hearts manager Csaba Laszlo, who is also interested in a German striker playing in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ross Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 He's getting Zidane out of retirement. It makes no sense to the original post and is complete nonsense but there you go. He would suit the maroon. Gorgie Rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboscott Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 here is the story http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Laszlo-lines-up-replacement-for.4934305.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 What about portugese playing in Germany ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 David Odonkor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboscott Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 What about portugese playing in Germany ? are you being sarcy or was that another stab in the dark by the papers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ross Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 What about portugese playing in Germany ? Goncalves? I'm one of the few that thinks he has potential. Wallace is doing fine though. Hopefully we get our ?1.5m for him (doubt it very much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboscott Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Goncalves? I'm one of the few that thinks he has potential. Wallace is doing fine though. Hopefully we get our ?1.5m for him (doubt it very much). i think he used to be a player until we malovee and co got there hands on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 are you being sarcy or was that another stab in the dark by the papers nope..any developments of this source,can be linked and credited too stella artois..natural source for jambos :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ross Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 i think he used to be a player until we malovee and co got there hands on him Fair point, no-one seemed to work on his positioning. Who's to say he's not learned a lot over there and he'll come back and fulfill his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMMY Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ERSEN MARTIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniwildcat38 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 David Odonkor. Well as far as I can tell from wikipedia, he seems to be the only German playing in either La Liga or Segunda that has any claim to being a striker (although he's primarily a winger). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMMY Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ERSEN MARTIN - GERMAN BORN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groot Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Jammy, stop ersen aboot I'll get my coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ersen_Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboscanbevicius Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ersen Martin has 76 goals in 256 games at all levels according to his wiki profile. About a goal every 3.4 games. (if I added it up correctly) It is not absolutely prolific but it is a fairly decent record considering he has played at a good level and it is a lot better than what our current strikers have managed. TBH I think that almost any striker with a bit of experience could only improve us. I am not particularly keen to see us throwing a lot of money at a foreign striker like we did with Pinilla and Makela. Would prefer a short contract or loan to see if they settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Fair point, no-one seemed to work on his positioning. Who's to say he's not learned a lot over there and he'll come back and fulfill his potential. Think back to Joses first games for us - Central defence, very good prospect. Then he got banjo'd at Hampden. It was only when he started playing at LB, where the bambi likeness came in. There is a central defender there. Anyone know what position he has been playing in Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Think back to Joses first games for us - Central defence, very good prospect. Then he got banjo'd at Hampden. It was only when he started playing at LB, where the bambi likeness came in. There is a central defender there. Anyone know what position he has been playing in Germany? Jose debut was v Aberdeen and he played at Left Back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 He was a bombscare at CH. Not sure if what I am remembering was pre or post the semi banjo-ing. There a player there, no doubt though. I think the mess we were in last year knocked it out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboscott Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 i'm sure jose will come back a better player and shaba will get the best out of him, if not the chat is we will land 3 mill for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lithuania Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Goncalves? I'm one of the few that thinks he has potential. Wallace is doing fine though. Hopefully we get our ?1.5m for him (doubt it very much). Think he is a great player, although I'm sure it was ?1m only, I hope he decides to come back under Csaba, please, Goncalves.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deans Jambo Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ersen Martin has 76 goals in 256 games at all levels according to his wiki profile. About a goal every 3.4 games. (if I added it up correctly) It is not absolutely prolific but it is a fairly decent record considering he has played at a good level and it is a lot better than what our current strikers have managed. TBH I think that almost any striker with a bit of experience could only improve us. I am not particularly keen to see us throwing a lot of money at a foreign striker like we did with Pinilla and Makela. Would prefer a short contract or loan to see if they settle. At 6ft 5 he's maybe more of a target man. Had an interesting debut in Spain for Recre: "On February 3, 2008, Ersen finally made his Recreativo debut, with a sour note, as Sevilla FC won 2-1 away, and the Turkish was sent off for a reckless challenge, after just eight minutes as a substitute" Another one to boost the disciplinary record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Stick Goncalves up front and he can shepard it past opposition defences and goalkeepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Stick Goncalves up front and he can shepard it past opposition defences and goalkeepers. Jose could have shepharded Friday right through to the Monday morning he was that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 metzelder anyone? no? ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Stick Goncalves up front and he can shepard it past opposition defences and goalkeepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ersen Martin has 76 goals in 256 games at all levels according to his wiki profile. About a goal every 3.4 games. (if I added it up correctly) It is not absolutely prolific but it is a fairly decent record considering he has played at a good level and it is a lot better than what our current strikers have managed. TBH I think that almost any striker with a bit of experience could only improve us. I am not particularly keen to see us throwing a lot of money at a foreign striker like we did with Pinilla and Makela. Would prefer a short contract or loan to see if they settle. As far as I can see this Ersen Martin has scored only one goal outside of Turkey, that was the one goal he has scored for Recreativo Huelva, he scored that on April 27 2008, and has not scored since. We need someone who is banging in goals at this point in his career. We would also need a work permit for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 As far as I can see this Ersen Martin has scored only one goal outside of Turkey, that was the one goal he has scored for Recreativo Huelva, he scored that on April 27 2008, and has not scored since. We need someone who is banging in goals at this point in his career. We would also need a work permit for him Someone earlier claims he's German born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Someone earlier claims he's German born. He was born in Germany DH, and had dual German/Turkish nationality, but he gave that up a few years back to become a citizen of Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 We need someone who is banging in goals at this point in his career. No offence Iain but any player that is banging in goals at this moment isn't going to be available for a nominal fee, nor I doubt will his club be willing to send him out on loan. And unfortunately that's the market we will be looking to deal in. Any forward player that is brought in will be someone with an indifferent record in the hope that he can do the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 No offence Iain but any player that is banging in goals at this moment isn't going to be available for a nominal fee, nor I doubt will his club be willing to send him out on loan. And unfortunately that's the market we will be looking to deal in. Any forward player that is brought in will be someone with an indifferent record in the hope that he can do the business. You are going through more usernames/logonids than we have had managers in the last three years. I do understand fully what you say, but if it is a case of trying to get somebody on the cheap surely looking at someone, not necessarily here, but abroad, who is actively scoring goals at a lower level makes more sense (although I fully accept even that may not work out). Either that or promote internally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 He was born in Germany DH, and had dual German/Turkish nationality, but he gave that up a few years back to become a citizen of Turkey. Cheers. Without even checking............ I'll assume he hasn't won a sufficient amount of Caps to qualify for a dreaded WP ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Cheers. Without even checking............ I'll assume he hasn't won a sufficient amount of Caps to qualify for a dreaded WP ? He appears to have played 4 times for Turkey since 2005, which I assume is no where near enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 He appears to have played 4 times for Turkey since 2005, which I assume is no where near enough. Thanks PJ1. It sounds a non-starter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 From the font of all knowledge that is FM09, here are all the Germans playing in Spain Ersen Martin - Recreativo ?1.2m Ismael Gil - Mallorca ?9k Jhony - Celta ?26k Dennis Krol - Barca ?190k Christoph Metzelder - Real Madrid ?5.75m David Odonkor - Betis ?220k Eugen Polanski - Getafe ?2m Christopher Schorch - Castilla ?55k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Polanski's one of Csaba's boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 From the font of all knowledge that is FM09, here are all the Germans playing in Spain Ersen Martin - Recreativo ?1.2m Ismael Gil - Mallorca ?9k Jhony - Celta ?26k Dennis Krol - Barca ?190k Christoph Metzelder - Real Madrid ?5.75m David Odonkor - Betis ?220k Eugen Polanski - Getafe ?2m Christopher Schorch - Castilla ?55k Ismeal Gil is in our price bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Polanski's one of Csaba's boys. Defensive midfielder though who joined Getafe on 1/7/08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Thanks PJ1. It sounds a non-starter to me. Doesn't need work permit -- German citizen playing for Turkey -- who are also in the EU so no permit problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ismeal Gil is in our price bracket. And is the only other striker apart from Ersen Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Doesn't need work permit -- German citizen playing for Turkey -- who are also in the EU so no permit problems. I presume you mean Germany are in the EU not Turkey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevmacd Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 From the font of all knowledge that is FM09, here are all the Germans playing in Spain Ersen Martin - Recreativo ?1.2m Ismael Gil - Mallorca ?9k Jhony - Celta ?26k Dennis Krol - Barca ?190k Christoph Metzelder - Real Madrid ?5.75m David Odonkor - Betis ?220k Eugen Polanski - Getafe ?2m Christopher Schorch - Castilla ?55k Ersen Martin has only played for Recreativo 6 times this season and has scored one goal. May be looking for 1st team football to improve his chances of playing for Turkey? Dunno who else they have up front. Source: http://www.soccerway.com/teams/spain/real-club-recreativo-de-huelva/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 so who is the player shabba wants? detective work required "I have a candidate (to replace Berra] and if the club get this player, I will be very happy," said Hearts manager Csaba Laszlo, who is also interested in a German striker playing in Spain. Sure he does. He also said he would respect the decision NOT to sign him. I wish he would shut up and let Vlad do the talking. One idiot is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Doesn't need work permit -- German citizen playing for Turkey -- who are also in the EU so no permit problems. Turkey is not a member of the EU, they have applied but are yet to be accepted, and will not be until 2013 at the earliest, if ever. And he gave up his dual nationality to become a full Turkish citizen, so he could play for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Turkey is not a member of the EU, they have applied but are yet to be accepted, and will not be until 2013 at the earliest, if ever. And he gave up his dual nationality to become a full Turkish citizen, so he could play for them. Then we will see won't we whose version of Eurpean law is correct I still think he is eligable to come to these shores but perhaps you are right -- however this would surely have been checked prior to any real contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Interesting one. Ersen Martin happens to have the same agent (Antonio Carlo) as Czaba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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