cosanostra Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Technically we don't need to approach Motherwell We can speak directly to Porter and agree terms with him now without ever needing to speak to them. I think it is more out of courtesy than anything else that Csaba is speaking to Motherwell, unless he is hoping that we may be able to get him this month instead of waiting till the summer. Definately sounds like we are going for him now as apposed to just media speculation. Csaba could be putting in place the makings of a really good team if we sign the players were being linked with so far, and still a very young team as well. Black Porter Barr Arfield Shows how good Csaba is IMO. Makes me annoyed when I think of the money we've spent on guys like Beslija, Pinilla & Makela when we could have gotten guys like the above who would have contributed hugely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I doubt the BBC knows more than what we all read in the Express this morning? Why would we need to approach Motherwell if we want to sign him when he's out of contract in the summer? No, what the BBC has said is that we have made contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Shows how good Csaba is IMO. Makes me annoyed when I think of the money we've spent on guys like Beslija, Pinilla & Makela when we could have gotten guys like the above who would have contributed hugely. No arguments here about that statement. Think the fact were looking and making moves for these players should be the final proof for anyone that still wasn't convinced, that the mad one is keeping his sticky little fingers out. Thats made a huge difference having a manager that is allowed to get on with the job, spot his own players he wants and actually being allowed to try and sign those players. The ones you mention and many more were forced upon previous managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I think this shows we're serious. That is the point I was trying to make. Why would we even bother contacting motherwell if we had no intention of making this happen. Also it would be extremely foolish to approach them if Porter does not want to join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Its the right first step policy. Buy the best of the res of the SPL. Its what the OF have been doing to us to keep 1st and 2nd. Its a legitemate policy to do this to keep 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 No, what the BBC has said is that we have made contact. What does our reported intention to sign him in the summer have to do with Motherwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 What does our reported intention to sign him in the summer have to do with Motherwell? I was thinking about that as well. It might have something to do with Csaba showing Motherwell some respect, he seems to be very big on that. Maybe, because he is still a contracted player, he's being respectful and asking his club for their permission to speak to their player. Just a guess though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Or maybe it's because we have him signed already and Hearts want to know what it would cost to get him now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Or maybe it's because we have him signed already and Hearts want to know what it would cost to get him now? But if he had signed a pre-contract agreement, we would have made that public, no? Like we did with Ian Black? Not being awkward here, just trying to get to the credibility of the piece on the BBC website. Something about it isn't quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I was thinking about that as well. It might have something to do with Csaba showing Motherwell some respect, he seems to be very big on that. Maybe, because he is still a contracted player, he's being respectful and asking his club for their permission to speak to their player. Just a guess though. It's because Csaba put Motherwells nose out of joint when he first talked about wanting Porter (sometime in early December). They found that dis-respectful as he was contracted to them and not (at that time) free to speak to other clubs. Csaba is attempting to build bridges, nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 But if he had signed a pre-contract agreement, we would have made that public, no? Like we did with Ian Black? Not being awkward here, just trying to get to the credibility of the piece on the BBC website. Something about it isn't quite right. You're right, some people like to get all excited at the thought that we've already signed Porter, if we had I think we'd all know by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hopefully we have spoken to Porter and he has said he could\would be interested, then we have had the approval from Mad Vlad to spend to get him now rather than wait till the summer. Wishful thinking I know but hey ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Or maybe it's David Obua phoning up with crank calls where he uses words such as "shizzle", "dawg" and "illin" to confound the Motherwell switchboard operator. Shup yo face playa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Ooh McGhee's getting ants in his pants. Come and get him, Hearts - McGhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 "We are a club that might have to sell so if they want him, come and get him." McGhee added: "I still hold out hope that Porter won't want to go to Hearts. "I'm not saying that's the case; Hearts are a great club and I could understand if he said that he did want to go there. "But I'm hoping that he won't. I haven't chatted to him and I won't until something changes." Being key imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 McGhee added: "I still hold out hope that Porter won't want to go to Hearts. "I'm not saying that's the case; Hearts are a great club and I could understand if he said that he did want to go there. I thought he said he didn't think Porter would want to join us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I thought he said he didn't think Porter would want to join us ? What I heard on the radio was 'he'd be a braver man than me' and 'I doubt he'll be losing any sleep over the thought' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 He sounds resigned to defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 He sounds resigned to defeat. Well he is. He's not going to be a Motherwell player next season. Whether he becomes a Hearts player remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Ooh McGhee's getting ants in his pants. Come and get him, Hearts - McGhee What 'games' are we playing? As others have stated, we owe motherwell nowt here, we are perfectly entitled to do our business without tellin them jack. I actually heard that mcghee is willing to let porter join us now.....but only if mcghee can come too ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMMY Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Not going to happen...getting our hopes up as usual. Will only end up in disappointment,and on the last day of Jan when we haven`t signed a new striker the statement will be..."oh we did try to sign Porter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Ooh McGhee's getting ants in his pants. Come and get him, Hearts - McGhee What 'games' are we playing? As others have stated, we owe motherwell nowt here, we are perfectly entitled to do our business without tellin them jack. I actually heard that mcghee is willing to let porter join us now.....but only if mcghee can come too ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 McGhee has certainly changed his tune about our chances of getting Porter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 What I heard on the radio was 'he'd be a braver man than me' and 'I doubt he'll be losing any sleep over the thought' Seems a bit of a turn around from MM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 mcghee can go and donald duck himself. can't see porter coming to be honest. i think he will wait to see what offers he gets from english clubs on a pre-contract agreement basis. also, we don't want players who aren't fully committed to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Not going to happen...getting our hopes up as usual.Will only end up in disappointment,and on the last day of Jan when we haven`t signed a new striker the statement will be..."oh we did try to sign Porter" I suppose we'll never know if that was all just total BS ? However I think there is much more honesty about the day to day goings on at Tynie. The club will also be well aware that gates have dropped hugely and if they even appeared to be taking the 'Lillian Gish' in such a fashion then I'm sure the fans would let them know in no uncertain terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I still can't see it happening but it may depend on who comes in for Porter. If a Championship team goes for him, then I think he'll go there but if it's no bigger than Huddersfield, then we'll have a good shot. We are going to free up a good chunk of wages in the summer with players out of contract, so for once we might as well dive in and get the players we want for the summer without scrambling around at the last minute next August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyjambo Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 From Huddersfield http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/7813849.stm Looks like Another one Csaba can score of his list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 From Huddersfield http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/7813849.stmLooks like Another one Csaba can score of his list. Now there is some negative spin! He doesn't have to sign for them just cause Huddersfield have made a bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 As are we apparently. Tbh if the lad fancies Huddersfield over us then they're welcome to him. Not got much ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Mind games.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyjambo Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Just dont think Hearts will offer more than 200k for a player who only has 6 months left on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 As are we apparently. Tbh if the lad fancies Huddersfield over us then they're welcome to him. Not got much ambition. Agree , although i hope we still manage to seal the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gunn Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 well it gets more intresting by the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Just dont think Hearts will offer more than 200k for a player who only has 6 months left on his contract. He can sign for us now for nothing, nought, feck all, nada, plums, 0, duck egg etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 We should make a bid based on the fact he doesn't get cup tied. If he does, might as well get him on a bosman in the summer like Black or offer Well a sum around ?50k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Let's see his ambition now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstone Wonder Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/7813849.stm looks like Huddersfield have stolen a march on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Why would Huddersfield offer ?200K for him at all? - if they want him & he's happy with their terms then he could sign for them and let Huddersfield & Monkeywell haggle over a price for early release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sconnie Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 If Huddersfield and ourselves are the only two teams in for him then it should be a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Nobody is gonna bid for him up front - why would they when they don't have to? You'd be in a much stronger bargaining position with him already signed up - this story is very convenient timing for Boyle & McGhee in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 If Huddersfield and ourselves are the only two teams in for him then it should be a no brainer. I agree. Huddersfield will probably pay higher wages to him I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gunn Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 on the other hand,edinburgh is one of the best cities in the world,where as huddersfield is not. maybe if he has children that might be a deciding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markletissier Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 pathetic really that one of the better teams in scotland are struggling to beat a lower league english side to a signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 on the other hand,edinburgh is one of the best cities in the world,where as huddersfield is not. maybe if he has children that might be a deciding factor. He can always live somewhere nice in Yorkshire. Generally money counts most in the short career of a professional footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Well we appear to have sent a fax to Motherwell. Looks like we're trying to sign him, then buy him, rather than just buy him. http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Hearts-make-interest-in-Porter.4883296.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Well we appear to have sent a fax to Motherwell. Looks like we're trying to sign him, then buy him, rather than just buy him. http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Hearts-make-interest-in-Porter.4883296.jp Get yer fax oot for the vlad:) http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Hearts-make-interest-in-Porter.4883296.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The reason for the ?200,00 figure is a clause in his contract which states he can leave for that amount during this window. He signed a 2 year deal with 'well meaning he got a large signing on fee and 'well can now recoup that or lose him for nothing in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboPete Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 If we really want him, we have to get this tied up before Motherwell play in the Scottish Cup next week and meaning he would be cup tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Cohle Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 He's quoted in today's Daily ****** as saying; "They're (Hearts) a bigger club than Motherwell in the sense that they've got a larger fan base." What a ******. Just fan base eh? What about trophy history, league positions, european adventures? I am so glad we did not get this rheptile as manager. FMM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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