Paolo Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1504738,00.html Well done Brines you may have got what you aimed to achieve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 He needs to knuckle down and get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 SFA campaign bearing fruit. first miko... now zali being forced to consider their futures. ethnic cleansing, scottish style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 SFA campaign bearing fruit. first miko... now zali being forced to consider their futures. ethnic cleansing, scottish style. Hitler would be proud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Thanks Brines you evil barsteward. You just know he'll read about this and be laughing his knackers off. Make me sick to think of the bloke. Lower than a snake. Cheer up Zal old son. Just do the hobos a new one down Fester Rd in the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Players now being forced out of the country due to victimisation. Wishart still asleep after his Christmas dinner I assume? F****** P****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 He needs to knuckle down and get on with it. Or he could ask for a transfer to another league where he wouldn't be victimised. No you're right, he should just stay and take everything that's thrown at him. That's what we'd all do in our place of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Hitler would be proud! it's a post-modern example of such. the cheats solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Or he could ask for a transfer to another league where he wouldn't be victimised. No you're right, he should just stay and take everything that's thrown at him. That's what we'd all do in our place of work. Exactly. When they knock you down you have to get straight back up for more - that's what real men do. He's not the first to be unfairly punished for something and he won't be the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 The way Zal turned to the crowd and pointed to his name on the back of the shirt when he scored against Rangers suggested to me he is well aware that he is not the most popular amomng some sections of the support. Despite his diplomatic words I suspect that there is more than one reason why he might prefer to be playing his football elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Exactly. When they knock you down you have to get straight back up for more - that's what real men do. He's not the first to be unfairly punished for something and he won't be the last. if it were just one incident I'd agree. I don't think that is the case though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Exactly. When they knock you down you have to get straight back up for more - that's what real men do. He's not the first to be unfairly punished for something and he won't be the last. He is one of the few that are punshed due to soley who they play for and their nationality, as I said in another post, if black players were treated like this in a regular basis there would be an outcry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Exactly. When they knock you down you have to get straight back up for more - that's what real men do. He's not the first to be unfairly punished for something and he won't be the last. Perhaps if this was the first time this had happened to him I'd agree with you. Perhaps if he hadn't seen countless other similar incidents happen to his countrymen, I'd agree with you. If I were him, I'd want out of this god awful country as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabber Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 He needs to knuckle down and get on with it. if you were to get the blame for something that happened at your work that was proved without doubt wasnt you . would you be happy to just get on with it or would you get another job as soon as you could .i know what i would pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hearts Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 The way Zal turned to the crowd and pointed to his name on the back of the shirt when he scored against Rangers suggested to me he is well aware that he is not the most popular amomng some sections of the support. Despite his diplomatic words I suspect that there is more than one reason why he might prefer to be playing his football elsewhere. Agreed reckon he will be quite happy to move onto pastures new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Perhaps if this was the first time this had happened to him I'd agree with you. Perhaps if he hadn't seen countless other similar incidents happen to his countrymen, I'd agree with you. If I were him, I'd want out of this god awful country as well. I think he might want out anyway going by previous reports. He hasn't been particularly picked on by referees anyway imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 if you were to get the blame for something that happened at your work that was proved without doubt wasnt you . would you be happy to just get on with it or would you get another job as soon as you could .i know what i would pick It wasn't his employer that blamed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyseymour Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 He is one of the few that are punshed due to soley who they play for and their nationality, as I said in another post, if black players were treated like this in a regular basis there would be an outcry. sadly there are many so called Hearts fans who will be pleased to see him go ....although they will no doubt be careful to state that it's simply because of his ability and nowt to do with his nationality.....!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 It wasn't his employer that blamed him. Ok then, say it was your employer's regulatory body that accused you of something you did not do, you provided evidence that you did not do it, but they still ignore it, meaning it has a negative impact on your career and a loss of earnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scallywag Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I don't blame him. The bias by officials, pundits and the media against the Lithuanian players is shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 sadly there are many so called Hearts fans who will be pleased to see him go ....although they will no doubt be careful to state that it's simply because of his ability and nowt to do with his nationality.....!!! You are right there are some, thankfully less than before, who contributed towards this hatred by pre-judgung players based on this fact and giving them more grief for errors that the Scottish or non Lith players - probably because some allowed their hatred for Vlad affect their judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 No real loss IMO. Shame he had to go this way but at least one of our youngsters may get a chance. Cheers for the derby goal. Made for a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Ok then, say it was your employer's regulatory body that accused you of something you did not do, you provided evidence that you did not do it, but they still ignore it, meaning it has a negative impact on your career and a loss of earnings. I'd probably get sacked. Zal is lucky that his employer doesn't have to do that. Anyway, no time to talk more on this as you're all a bunch of wimmin. I'm off to clean the oven before the wife gets back from Sainsbury's!! :xmaseye: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I'd probably get sacked. Zal is lucky that his employer doesn't have to do that. Anyway, no time to talk more on this as you're all a bunch of wimmin. I'm off to clean the oven before the wife gets back from Sainsbury's!! :xmaseye: misogynistic post, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinydancer Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Perhaps if this was the first time this had happened to him I'd agree with you. Perhaps if he hadn't seen countless other similar incidents happen to his countrymen, I'd agree with you. If I were him, I'd want out of this god awful country as well. Aye, I just hope Vlad isn't thinking the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 I'd probably get sacked. Zal is lucky that his employer doesn't have to do that. Anyway, no time to talk more on this as you're all a bunch of wimmin. I'm off to clean the oven before the wife gets back from Sainsbury's!! :xmaseye: Me too, but unlike you, I would not think it is perfectly acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabber Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It wasn't his employer that blamed him. no i know that, but if i was working abroad and felt the local authorites had it in for me i wouldnt hang around long thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlad on the tyne Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 no tears will be shed if he goes unjust red card though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hearts Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 No real loss IMO. Shame he had to go this way but at least one of our youngsters may get a chance. Cheers for the derby goal. Made for a great day. Tend to agree never really rated him. Would prefer to see others getting their chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Tend to agree never really rated him. Would prefer to see others getting their chance. He did turn out OK, two goals against the Old Firm, one against the Hobos - some strikers of ours would be proud of that record at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hearts Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 He did turn out OK, two goals against the Old Firm, one against the Hobos - some strikers of ours would be proud of that record at the moment. Just a pity he couldn't defend though. :xmassick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 If Berra, Zal, Bruno and Kingston all leave what kind of support will the youngsters get from the Tynecastle stands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Me too, but unlike you, I would not think it is perfectly acceptable. See now I am confused, I do not know if you and dave are still talking about Zaliukas or are now talking about cleaning ovens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 No real loss IMO. Shame he had to go this way but at least one of our youngsters may get a chance. Cheers for the derby goal. Made for a great day. i'm far from convinced that one of the youngsters would be anywhere near as effective. he's made out to be worse than he is, imo. shame he wont be able to count on the support and understanding of the entire hearts support. after putting up with some hysterical abuse from some quarters he thoroughly deserves some support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 no tears will be shed if he goes unjust red card though Agree. Red card on Saturday was totally unjust, but if he chooses to leave the club, or is indeed transferred during this transfer window, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross98 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Thanks Brines you evil barsteward. You just know he'll read about this and be laughing his knackers off. Make me sick to think of the bloke. Lower than a snake. Cheer up Zal old son. Just do the hobos a new one down Fester Rd in the cup. Well, he is a constable in the Strathclyde Police, explains it all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contalmaison Stand Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Zaliukas IMO was a good player with perhaps even greater potential than Berra. However time and future transfers will be the proof!! Still think that Zal departing under the Ian Brines cloud is nothing short of disgraceful for 21st Century Scotland and all the beliefs of equality that ooze from the upturned boats at the bottom of the Royal Mile! Can an offical request be made to Alex Salmond to investigate the whole sordid affair which is currently making Scottish Football look world wide as the joke all Jambos know it has become under the current SFA regime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sked21 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 At least he hasn't over-reacted or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Crane Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Not the first time that a copper has made a foreigner unwelcome! What next Mr Brines, the reintroduction of "sus laws" on the football pitch!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_C Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Players now being forced out of the country due to victimisation. Wishart still asleep after his Christmas dinner I assume? F****** P****. That's a good shout. He's supposed to stick up for players isn't he? I'm sure that, for example, this was one of Yogi's "good honest scottish laddies" Wishart would've been getting all worked up about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Zali has improved substantially under Csaba's stewardship but if he were to go this transfer window it wouldn't be a huge loss, he is very replacable. I like and admire that he has knuckled down this season and has admitted his mistakes and wants to atone for them. But some people on here are as equally dramatic as those they claim "dont support/despise Zal because he's Lith", with making out he is some sort of centre back legend. Like I said, IF Zal leaves this window then I think it's no great loss because he is a decent player having a good run of form, not because of what nationality he is. IF he doesn't leave then he will continue to get support and encouagement from me in the stands like all the players in Hearts tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allo allo Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 If a few songs can get the politicians and embassy excited on behalf of one of the OF then i think that a call to the Lithuanian Embassy might be a good idea. It would at least stir things up further and help to apply pressure on the GFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Maybe if we had a few thousand large red cards with "show racism the red card" on it for Brines next game it would get the point across to the SFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedevries Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Boycott the sfa cup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboy81 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 He's being rather silly, isn't he. If he's the first player in football history to be unjustly red carded then it is news to me. He's lucky to be at Hearts and not diddy Kaunas and maybe he's forgotten that. It aint going to get any better for him than it is now. Acting like a cry baby will just make him even more unpopular with the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 He's being rather silly, isn't he. If he's the first player in football history to be unjustly red carded then it is news to me. He's lucky to be at Hearts and not diddy Kaunas and maybe he's forgotten that. It aint going to get any better for him than it is now. Acting like a cry baby will just make him even more unpopular with the fans. Well done you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I think he's being a bit huffy. He should make sure he's fully focussed for when he returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 He's being rather silly, isn't he. If he's the first player in football history to be unjustly red carded then it is news to me. He's lucky to be at Hearts and not diddy Kaunas and maybe he's forgotten that. It aint going to get any better for him than it is now. Acting like a cry baby will just make him even more unpopular with the fans. The words pot and kettle come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 "I have spoken to players from other clubs since the incident and they were all surprised it was a red card having seen it on television," he said. I very much doubt that after what he got his yellow for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 i'm far from convinced that one of the youngsters would be anywhere near as effective. he's made out to be worse than he is, imo. shame he wont be able to count on the support and understanding of the entire hearts support. after putting up with some hysterical abuse from some quarters he thoroughly deserves some support. Who said he won't be able to count on the support and understanding of the Hearts support? I didn't. By all account McGowan and Rapnick are nearl ready to make the break through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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