Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 column in todays EEN is worth a read. He makes some worthy points. 1. Why is it taking us so long to appoint a manager? 2. If Levein was offered the job it is likely he would accept. 3. Who had responsibility for looking at new signings? With Screpis being only one in that it doesn't point to Shag gy being in the driving seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makween Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Is that the only points that he's making? It's hardly exactly anything that anyone with half a brain couldn't have told you. Except the bit about Levein, that is. What's he basing that on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Is that the only points that he's making? It's hardly exactly anything that anyone with half a brain couldn't have told you. Except the bit about Levein, that is. What's he basing that on? Hes been told CL is likely to accept the job if it were offered to him. As for the half a brain bit then why do some on here say give him to the summer to appoint. There is no rush etc. The usual tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makween Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Hes been told CL is likely to accept the job if it were offered to him. As for the half a brain bit then why do some on here say give him to the summer to appoint. There is no rush etc. The usual tripe. The "half a brain" bit was key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 The "half a brain" bit was key. LOL. Yes very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I'm quite sure everyone at Hearts is well aware how ****ed off we fans are, and how bad the football has been in the last 18 months. The crunch time will be season ticket renewals. We had a reported 21,000 applications in 2006. Let's see how many we'll sell in 2008. Tick tock, and all that. Buffalo Bill . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Meldrew Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 column in todays EEN is worth a read. He makes some worthy points. 1. Why is it taking us so long to appoint a manager? 2. If Levein was offered the job it is likely he would accept. 3. Who had responsibility for looking at new signings? With Screpis being only one in that it doesn't point to Shag gy being in the driving seat. 1. Presumably because haing made so many mistakes on the managerial front before, we want to get it right this time. We probably also don't have as many candidates as we might want. 2. So? Do we really want him? I hope we can do better. 3. Which other clubs let a caretaker manager sign players? If he HAD signed players, I'd be worried that we'd end up with him long-term. Foulkes did some good things when he was Chairman, but to be honest, his recent driiblings in the press haven't ben particularly worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samster Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I agree VM, let's not rush headlong into something we might end up regretting. Like everyone else I want a new manager sooner than later but I'm prepared to wait for the right man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 column in todays EEN is worth a read. He makes some worthy points. 1. Why is it taking us so long to appoint a manager? 2. If Levein was offered the job it is likely he would accept. 3. Who had responsibility for looking at new signings? With Screpis being only one in that it doesn't point to Shag gy being in the driving seat. He is wrong about Number 2. Without going into details I know he would not come back to Hearts at this current time. One day but not at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 He is wrong about Number 2. Without going into details I know he would not come back to Hearts at this current time. One day but not at the moment. Post VR possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I agree VM, let's not rush headlong into something we might end up regretting. Like everyone else I want a new manager sooner than later but I'm prepared to wait for the right man. How long you prepared to wait Samster? It has only been over 2 years since we last had a manager I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makween Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 1. Presumably because haing made so many mistakes on the managerial front before, we want to get it right this time. Do you genuinely believe that? Like, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabyarsebiscuit Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 3. Which other clubs let a caretaker manager sign players? If he HAD signed players, I'd be worried that we'd end up with him long-term. Hear what you are saying, Victor. However it's a wee bit of a concern when the fan reps who went to Kaunas were told by Vlad that if no manager was appointed, Frail signing targets would be followed up on in January. Screpis was already our player, so it seems a policy decision was taken to do nothing in January. Maybe for good reason, if the management feel we have a squad good enough to stay up this season. And two wins lately, suggest we will stay up. I hope Vlad wasn't just blatantly lying to the fans reps though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi_1983 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Post VR possibly? I would have thought it had more to do with the Eddie Thompson situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samster Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 How long you prepared to wait Samster? It has only been over 2 years since we last had a manager I guess... Massaging the facts a little bit there Horse. You are correct in what you say but it's only been 4/5 weeks since the announcement about looking for a new manager. Since we've been so long without a proper boss I don't think it's much problem to wait a while longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Hear what you are saying, Victor. However it's a wee bit of a concern when the fan reps who went to Kaunas were told by Vlad that if no manager was appointed, Frail signing targets would be followed up on in January. Screpis was already our player, so it seems a policy decision was taken to do nothing in January. Maybe for good reason, if the management feel we have a squad good enough to stay up this season. And two wins lately, suggest we will stay up. I hope Vlad wasn't just blatantly lying to the fans reps though. Without intending to sound painfully naive, it is possible that Frail's targets were approached and then they declined to sign for us... This is of course countered by the cynic in me that suggests VR didn't want another lot of Hackett's and Johnson's to pay wages to. What to believe, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambotony Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Hear what you are saying, Victor. However it's a wee bit of a concern when the fan reps who went to Kaunas were told by Vlad that if no manager was appointed, Frail signing targets would be followed up on in January. Screpis was already our player, so it seems a policy decision was taken to do nothing in January. Maybe for good reason, if the management feel we have a squad good enough to stay up this season. And two wins lately, suggest we will stay up. I hope Vlad wasn't just blatantly lying to the fans reps though. Maybe Frail's targets were unwilling/under contract/too expensive/ I also heard new signings were dependant on us shifting some of our dross. I don't know about you but would you buy Goncalves for the reported 2 million?? I personally would be happy to wait for Mcghee or a manager of higher calibre. I am also not too fussy about not signing anyone in January, i'm quite happy to wait till the new manager comes in and we are not left with the duds we have now on long term contracts who we can't shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makween Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 How long do people really think that it should take to appoint "the right man"? Other teams seem to manage it fairly quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 column in todays EEN is worth a read. He makes some worthy points. 1. Why is it taking us so long to appoint a manager? 2. If Levein was offered the job it is likely he would accept. 3. Who had responsibility for looking at new signings? With Screpis being only one in that it doesn't point to Shag gy being in the driving seat. I've also read George Galloway's column in the Record which doesn't exactly pay a glowing tribute to Lord Foulkes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I hope Vlad wasn't just blatantly lying to the fans reps though. He wouldn't do that...........................would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 I've also read George Galloway's column in the Record which doesn't exactly pay a glowing tribute to Lord Foulkes. Galloway or Foulkes. Yes I would rather back a Hearts man than the likes of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Post VR possibly? Definately. His best friend works beside the missus - his love for all things Hearts is still strong by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy52 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 1. Presumably because haing made so many mistakes on the managerial front before, we want to get it right this time. We probably also don't have as many candidates as we might want. 2. So? Do we really want him? I hope we can do better. 3. Which other clubs let a caretaker manager sign players? If he HAD signed players, I'd be worried that we'd end up with him long-term. Foulkes did some good things when he was Chairman, but to be honest, his recent driiblings in the press haven't ben particularly worthwhile. Another one!! Why should Romanov apologise for his mistakes when snivelling creeps can do it for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Massaging the facts a little bit there Horse. You are correct in what you say but it's only been 4/5 weeks since the announcement about looking for a new manager. Since we've been so long without a proper boss I don't think it's much problem to wait a while longer. I think you are just clutching at straws Samster. It is 2 years since we last had a proper manager - fact. Just because VR put out a statement on 1/1/08 people seem to think it is now ok to forget what went before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 2. So? Do we really want him? I hope we can do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 There is nowt you can do about it just now. If there is no manager in place by season ticket renewal time, don't renew or picket Vlad's bank. It's simple. Do we really have to see the same theme time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Definately. His best friend works beside the missus - his love for all things Hearts is still strong by all accounts. Good to hear. CL is a true Hearts legend. Was one of the few who went to both his testimonial matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoseLikeMahe Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 He is wrong about Number 2. Without going into details I know he would not come back to Hearts at this current time. One day but not at the moment. Not the case. He would want to take the job if and when it was offered. If it meant working with Romanov he would do it - wouldn't be ideal - but he'd do it all the same. You're spot on about his love of the Jambos tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Without intending to sound painfully naive, it is possible that Frail's targets were approached and then they declined to sign for us... This is of course countered by the cynic in me that suggests VR didn't want another lot of Hackett's and Johnson's to pay wages to. What to believe, eh? Fair points Boris with neither scenario showing us in good light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 There is nowt you can do about it just now. If there is no manager in place by season ticket renewal time, don\'t renew or picket Vlad\'s bank. It\'s simple. Do we really have to see the same theme time and time again. Romanov will probably advise us (again) about reduced capacity and an early renewal is the only way to guarantee your seat. Hmmmm. Deja-vu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest casper Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Good to hear. CL is a true Hearts legend. Was one of the few who went to both his testimonial matches. It?s funny how one Hearts legend can be held in such high esteem on KB after walking out on the club while another legend can be so vilified for being forced out the door and then signing for ?them?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toggie88 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Foulkes talks absolute ****e - you ask a drunk on a street corner and you would get a more sensible answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Without intending to sound painfully naive, it is possible that Frail's targets were approached and then they declined to sign for us... From Ross MaCormacks mouth he has spoken to hearts,the rumours over mountino from falkirk ,so i think we were looking but we did not remove enough players from the squad or they had better offers ,i think the club hoped makela would have left. but then the conspiracy is more attractive than the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the voice from above Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 How long do people really think that it should take to appoint "the right man"? Other teams seem to manage it fairly quickly. Exactly! How long did it take to get Kevin Keegan back to newcastle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoseLikeMahe Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Foulkes talks absolute ****e - you ask a drunk on a street corner and you would get a more sensible answer. Here is the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoseLikeMahe Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 It?s funny how one Hearts legend can be held in such high esteem on KB after walking out on the club while another legend can be so vilified for being forced out the door and then signing for ?them?. Don't agree with criticism of CL for leaving when he did. Circumstances made it required. Agree completely at the poor treatment of SP tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Examiner Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Here is the truth Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 From Ross MaCormacks mouth he has spoken to hearts,the rumours over mountino from falkirk ,so i think we were looking but we did not remove enough players from the squad or they had better offers ,i think the club hoped makela would have left.but then the conspiracy is more attractive than the real world. If we REALLY wanted to sign McCormack from Motherwell and Moutinhio from Falkirk, and tried as hard as possible to do so, I find it hard to believe we would have failed to get either of them. The fact that we didn't sign either of them, IMO, implies that we didn't really try very hard to sign them. Which then begs the question, why? Don't they trust Frail's judgement? Is the season already written off? Whatever the reason, it doesn't exactly fill me with enthusiasm for the fight ahead, given that it appears even our owners don't deem it worth making much of an effort to "save our season"... Seems they have written off this season already? Fair enough from a business/financial point of view. But not much fun for those of us who paid for ST's and expected to see us give our all every week to finish as high up the league as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 It?s funny how one Hearts legend can be held in such high esteem on KB after walking out on the club while another legend can be so vilified for being forced out the door and then signing for ?them?. Casper Elvis a Hearts legend in my eyes also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Foulkes talks absolute ****e - you ask a drunk on a street corner and you would get a more sensible answer. Is that right Toggie? Maybe if you took the blinkers off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Oh, and those casting aspirations in Mr Foulkes direction because he is willing to speak his mind on Mr Romanov, just remember one thing. Foulkes was supporting and watching Hearts before Vlad arrived, and he'll still be supporting and watching Hearts after Vlad is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest casper Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Don't agree with criticism of CL for leaving when he did. Circumstances made it required. Agree completely at the poor treatment of SP tho. I didn?t criticise CL for leaving ? he could probably see what was coming. My point was just about KBs perception of the 2 legends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Oh, and those casting aspirations in Mr Foulkes direction because he is willing to speak his mind on Mr Romanov, just remember one thing. Foulkes was supporting and watching Hearts before Vlad arrived, and he'll still be supporting and watching Hearts after Vlad is gone. Indeed JR. A hell of a lot more of a Jambo than our First Minister thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Post VR possibly? If so, that would be another reason to be pro vlad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Definately. His best friend works beside the missus - his love for all things Hearts is still strong by all accounts. I'd expect anyone with a love for "all things Hearts" not to have jumped ship at the first chance and make a right tit of himself. I'd also expect said person to do absolutely anything on the final day of a season to make it to a league decider. Something said person failed to do. Not the Hearts "die hard" you would have us believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I've not got a problem with George Foulkes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I'd expect anyone with a love for "all things Hearts" not to have jumped ship at the first chance and make a right tit of himself. I'd also expect said person to do absolutely anything on the final day of a season to make it to a league decider. Something said person failed to do. Not the Hearts "die hard" you would have us believe! What's that referring to mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 What's that referring to mate? May the 3rd 1986 when Craig was in his sick bed and unable to play that fateful day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 If so, that would be another reason to be pro vlad! Another reason Gambo didn't realise there was any at all. Not surprising to see you dissing a quality manager either. I mean Rix, Valdas, Malothief, Waldorf and Statler have all been so much better under the puppet master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 May the 3rd 1986 when Craig was in his sick bed and unable to play that fateful day. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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