Walter Kidd Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 **** everyone else. Marching on together. Chelsea are the new scousers. Plastic losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 **** everyone else. Marching on together. Chelsea are the new scousers. Plastic losers. I think it will end 1-1 myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 **** everyone else. Marching on together. Chelsea are the new scousers. Plastic losers. Takes balls to post that when Peterborough are above you in the league by 4 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Crane Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Seeing as you had a pop at my English team last week:- http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EXST6OXuxzM&feature=related http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJTI-RiZlI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Leeds who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 Leeds cheese burgers and chips fatso. I care less for anyone, who does not accept Leeds. Marching on together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Leeds cheese burgers and chips fatso. I care less for anyone, who does not accept Leeds. Marching on together. Going down together was that? Sounds a bit hoboish to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4D5pFGNlBs8&feature=related http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JMr9BejwVTE&feature=related Both vids dedicated to WK - who in cyber terms, really, really doesn't like me - but I realise may be hurting at the mo. Leeds' 91/2 side was almost absurdly underrated, and had a ****ing monster of a midfield. It also had most neutrals roaring them on given who they were up against - and I remember laughing my head off when Liverpool's 2-0 defeat of Man Utd clinched Wiko's men the title (not least because it won me a tenner off a United-supporting mate of mine at school: I tipped Leeds for the title preseason, he tipped Man U). Leeds are one of England's ten great clubs. At present, I alternate almost daily between laughing at their predicament and wanting them to return - which undoubtedly they will. And if anyone ever accuses them of being a predictable long-ball side under Wilkinson, they'd do well to acquaint themselves with a video of Sheffield Wednesday 1 Leeds United 6: the Owls finished a brilliant 3rd that season, but Leeds simply demolished them. Oh, and for pure comic **** taking, the entire Leeds squad's insistence to the ITV cameras that winning the title was "just a bonus" took some beating: trust me, you had to be there! Anyway, this one goes out to you Walter: you'll be back, as I'm sure you know anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 Lawson. We are in the top 1 club in England. No one else matters. Yorkshire. Yorkshire Yorkshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Chard VC Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 It scunners me to see how low Leeds have fallen especially when no mark teams such as Wigan, Portsmouth, Stoke etc are in Premiership:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 laughing my head off when Liverpool's 2-0 defeat of Man Utd clinched Wiko's men the title A very sweet moment for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I suggest buying a diary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Lawson. We are in the top 1 club in England. No one else matters. Yorkshire. Yorkshire Yorkshire Christ - no wonder you're a Leeds fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFCjamieHMFC Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 It scunners me to see how low Leeds have fallen especially when no mark teams such as Wigan, Portsmouth, Stoke etc are in Premiership:mad: but how can those clubs create a history if the top league was just filled up with the bigger clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ilvery_Moon Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nf-MYI3wlng&feature=related Wednesday are Yorkshire's number 1. I enjoyed that day out so much. Was when you were just about doomed to League 1. The only part of the ground that was full was the Hesco End. 3-0 up and we scored an own goal, the only way you looked like scoring. "4-0 to the Wednesday boys". 7,000 fans singing 'Always look on the bright side of life' while you stream out the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 but how can those clubs create a history if the top league was just filled up with the bigger clubs Wigan especially are a plastic, no mark club though. Loads of clubs talk about the Premier League being their 'rightful place' - but for me, that applies to the following 20: Manchester United Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea Newcastle United Tottenham Hotspur Aston Villa Everton Manchester City Leeds United Wolverhampton Wanderers Sunderland Birmingham City Sheffield Wednesday West Ham United Nottingham Forest Derby County Middlesbrough West Bromwich Albion Bolton Wanderers Now that would be some league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Wigan especially are a plastic, no mark club though. Loads of clubs talk about the Premier League being their 'rightful place' - but for me, that applies to the following 20: Manchester United Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea Newcastle United Tottenham Hotspur Aston Villa Everton Manchester City Leeds United Wolverhampton Wanderers Sunderland Birmingham City Sheffield Wednesday West Ham United Nottingham Forest Derby County Middlesbrough West Bromwich Albion Bolton Wanderers Now that would be some league! You've finally lost it. Boro are a piddling wee club that has won 1 trophy in their entire crappy wee existence:evilno: Smog munching no marks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 You've finally lost it. Boro are a piddling wee club that has won 1 trophy in their entire crappy wee existence:evilno:Smog munching no marks! I don't think much of them either - but who would you have in instead? Blackburn? Leicester? Sheff Utd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I don't think much of them either - but who would you have in instead? Blackburn? Leicester? Sheff Utd? Any of them to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Any of them to be honest. Don't get me wrong - I think they're a plastic club myself - but once you get below the top 15 or so, it gets tricky. Birmingham, incidentally, have never won anything - yet I think they'd have to be in any top 20 list. Of the three alternatives I mentioned, probably the Blades have the best claim I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I don't think much of them either - but who would you have in instead? Blackburn? Leicester? Sheff Utd? Ipswich Town might be a good choice, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Ipswich Town might be a good choice, no? No. For the record, they'd be around 25th on my list (below the three I've mentioned plus Pompey; above Norwich (), Southampton, Coventry, QPR and Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Wigan especially are a plastic, no mark club though. Loads of clubs talk about the Premier League being their 'rightful place' - but for me, that applies to the following 20: Manchester United Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea Newcastle United Tottenham Hotspur Aston Villa Everton Manchester City Leeds United Wolverhampton Wanderers Sunderland Birmingham City Sheffield Wednesday West Ham United Nottingham Forest Derby County Middlesbrough West Bromwich Albion Bolton Wanderers Now that would be some league! I'd have Blackburn in for West Brom. As one of only 4 winners of the EPL they surely deserve it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 No. For the record, they'd be around 25th on my list (below the three I've mentioned plus Pompey; above Norwich (), Southampton, Coventry, QPR and Palace. I was surprised when you didn't include Norwich in the list to be honest. :tongue:What are you basing it on? Success, history, fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ilvery_Moon Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 There's only 1 proper club in the north east IMO and it's not Boro or the ego-inflated Barcodes. I'd still have Newcastle in however. Personally I'd have Blackburn ahead of United. At least they've won something in living memory. Although I'm probably biased. Birmingham have won something. The League Cup albeit 40 odd years ago. Sorry Shaun but surely Ipswich have a claim with their European exploits too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Wigan especially are a plastic, no mark club though. Loads of clubs talk about the Premier League being their 'rightful place' - but for me, that applies to the following 20: Manchester United Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea Newcastle United Tottenham Hotspur Aston Villa Everton Manchester City Leeds United Wolverhampton Wanderers Sunderland Birmingham City Sheffield Wednesday West Ham United Nottingham Forest Derby County Middlesbrough West Bromwich Albion Bolton Wanderers Now that would be some league! The premier division can only belong to those teams who have earned their places on the pitch. Any other criteria is as hobo-esque as "playing the game the way it's meant to be played". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I was surprised when you didn't include Norwich in the list to be honest. :tongue:What are you basing it on? Success, history, fans? A mixture of everything. Norwich, with two League Cups (one by beating the mighty Rochdale back when no-one cared) and no FA Cup Final appearances just don't cut it. We're a second flight club who had a near-quarter century between 1972 and 1995 out of kilter with the rest of our history, really. I think we're a bigger club than Ipswich - but as the second most successful provincial club in England (after Forest), they'd have to be above us in the pecking order. One League title, one FA Cup, one UEFA Cup, several League runners-up spots... read it and weep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The premier division can only belong to those teams who have earned their places on the pitch. Any other criteria is as hobo-esque as "playing the game the way it's meant to be played". In that case, get Bolton out of there and get Burnley in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I'd have Blackburn in for West Brom. As one of only 4 winners of the EPL they surely deserve it ! Maybe - do they have the fanbase though? I took an age choosing between them and Bolton, who're in for history's sake as much as anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigandy Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dirty, dirty Leeds. Dave Mackay says so in his book and his word is good enough for me !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ilvery_Moon Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The premier division can only belong to those teams who have earned their places on the pitch. Any other criteria is as hobo-esque as "playing the game the way it's meant to be played". True but it's a good list of clubs and as Shaun said it would be very interesting to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 A mixture of everything. Norwich, with two League Cups (one by beating the mighty Rochdale back when no-one cared) and no FA Cup Final appearances just don't cut it. We're a second flight club who had a near-quarter century between 1972 and 1995 out of kilter with the rest of our history, really. I think we're a bigger club than Ipswich - but as the second most successful provincial club in England (after Forest), they'd have to be above us in the pecking order. One League title, one FA Cup, one UEFA Cup, several League runners-up spots... read it and weep. There's still time yet for Norwich to catch up and pass the Tractor Boys. Just out of interest, what is your definition of "provincial"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The premier division can only belong to those teams who have earned their places on the pitch. Any other criteria is as hobo-esque as "playing the game the way it's meant to be played". Shall I rephrase that? "The premier division can only belong to those teams who have earned their place on the pitch or are funded way beyond their natural means by arms dealers, while doing absolutely nothing about their disgrace of a stadium". There - that's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vulture Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 What about Preston North End, first winners of the double ? Blackburn should be ahead of 'boro, 6 times FA Cup winners too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 There's still time yet for Norwich to catch up and pass the Tractor Boys. Just out of interest, what is your definition of "provincial"? Don't come from the capital or a big industrial or post-industrial city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 What about Preston North End, first winners of the double ? Blackburn should be ahead of 'boro, 6 times FA Cup winners too. Nowhere near big enough - as much as I have a soft spot for them! Preston are my third favourite club in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 There's only 1 proper club in the north east IMO and it's not Boro or the ego-inflated Barcodes. I'd still have Newcastle in however. Personally I'd have Blackburn ahead of United. At least they've won something in living memory. Although I'm probably biased. Birmingham have won something. The League Cup albeit 40 odd years ago. Sorry Shaun but surely Ipswich have a claim with their European exploits too? They have a better claim than us, certainly. But it's about as relevant to the present day as Aberdeen's claims to greatness are in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Don't come from the capital or a big industrial or post-industrial city. Ah, it was so much simpler when "provincial" meant anywhere outside the capital. Why should how industrialised a city is make any difference? Nottingham has a very long and distinguished industrial past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ilvery_Moon Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Nowhere near big enough - as much as I have a soft spot for them! Preston are my third favourite club in the Championship. Quite like Preston and your lot Norwich too. Good clubs and good fans. Was great when you sold out your allocation at the end of last season at Hillsborough. 37,000 in the ground that day. Excellent atmosphere and for a CCC relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Ah, it was so much simpler when "provincial" meant anywhere outside the capital. Why should how industrialised a city is make any difference? Nottingham has a very long and distinguished industrial past. I think it's to do with being considered a 'football hotbed'. London, the North West, North East, West Midlands and Yorkshire all are; the East Midlands and East Anglia generally aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Quite like Preston and your lot Norwich too. Good clubs and good fans. Was great when you sold out your allocation at the end of last season at Hillsborough. 37,000 in the ground that day. Excellent atmosphere and for a CCC relegation battle. Relegation battle? We were already safe, mate! We do have a superb support, quite out of keeping with the drivel served up on the pitch over the last four years. And yep, I like Wednesday too: you're my 2nd favourite club in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think it's to do with being considered a 'football hotbed'. London, the North West, North East, West Midlands and Yorkshire all are; the East Midlands and East Anglia generally aren't. Ok, good to know. I just think that the term "provincial" has been used by many people (not you evidently) in a pretty patronising way over the years. Me, I don't see the difference between a club in a large city, in a "football hotbed", in a town, whatever. Football clubs are football clubs and labelling Nottingham Forest as "provincial", especially after all they have done, seems pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Relegation battle? We were already safe, mate! We do have a superb support, quite out of keeping with the drivel served up on the pitch over the last four years. And yep, I like Wednesday too: you're my 2nd favourite club in the Championship. Just out of interest Shaun, do you have all the league clubs ordered in terms of preference. In which case, who is at the top and bottom of each league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ilvery_Moon Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Relegation battle? We were already safe, mate! We do have a superb support, quite out of keeping with the drivel served up on the pitch over the last four years. And yep, I like Wednesday too: you're my 2nd favourite club in the Championship. You were! We weren't! We had to win at Leicester and beat you and we managed it. Just. Was a great occasion that day though and it was testament to your support that you sold over 7000 for that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Just out of interest Shaun, do you have all the league clubs ordered in terms of preference. In which case, who is at the top and bottom of each league? Oh, I can do better than that! EPL 1. Tottenham Hotspur ----------------------------- 2. Liverpool 3. Manchester City 4. Aston Villa ----------------------------- 5. Hull City 6. Sunderland ----------------------------- 7. West Bromwich Albion 8. Fulham 9. Newcastle United 10. West Ham United 11. Chelsea 12. Blackburn Rovers 13. Arsenal 14. Everton 15. Wigan Athletic 16. Bolton Wanderers 17. Manchester United ---------------------------- 18. Portsmouth 19. Middlesbrough 20. Stoke City Championship 1. Norwich City 2. Sheffield Wednesday ---------------------------- 3. Preston North End 4. Blackpool 5. Plymouth Argyle 6. Swansea City ---------------------------- 7. Burnley 8. Queens Park Rangers 9. Bristol City 10. Charlton Athletic 11. Derby County 12. Barnsley 13. Doncaster Rovers 14. Reading 15. Nottingham Forest 16. Crystal Palace 17. Coventry City 18. Ipswich Town 19. Watford 20. Birmingham City 21. Sheffield United ---------------------------- 22. Southampton 23. Cardiff City 24. Wolverhampton Wanderers League 1 Top three: Brighton and Hove Albion, Swindon Town, Crewe Alexandra Bottom four: Leeds United, Peterborough United, Millwall, MK Dons League 2: Top four: Wycombe Wanderers, Shrewsbury Town, Notts County, AFC Bournemouth Bottom two: Gillingham, Luton Town And the award for JKB sadsack of the year goes to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 You were! We weren't! We had to win at Leicester and beat you and we managed it. Just. Was a great occasion that day though and it was testament to your support that you sold over 7000 for that game. Remember though, that had a fair bit to do with it being 'Farewell to Dion' day. And if the club had behaved with the slightest shred of dignity, it would've been 'Farewell to Hucks' Day too - unfortunately, Roeder chose to wait until the following week to tell us he wouldn't be offering Huckerby a new contract. What a way to treat a club legend, eh? :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Oh, I can do better than that! I thought you might. I won't ask how much further down the football ladder it goes. Nice to see that you don't have Ipswich at the bottom despite their being your rivals. Nice also to see Plymouth up there. Two questions - why don't you like Southampton (that wee inoffensive club) and what attracts you to Swansea?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I thought you might. I won't ask how much further down the football ladder it goes. Nice to see that you don't have Ipswich at the bottom despite their being your rivals. Nice also to see Plymouth up there. Two questions - why don't you like Southampton (that wee inoffensive club) and what attracts you to Swansea?! Swansea? Cyril the Swan, nothing more! I'm aware that they have an, ahem, troublesome element... Southampton fans drive me crazy. Every one I've ever come across have been thick as ****: from decrying Hoddle's move to Spurs and droning on about the potential of their new stadium (arf!) - to, while I was in the area researching in August '07, writing into the local paper demanding Burley's head. This after a summer in which they'd come *this* close to administration thanks to the mindblowing incompetence of their board. Oh, and don't be fooled by the inoffensive image. They have plenty of ******s among their support - and the place itself is a **** stain on the nation's underpants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texy Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I see football started in 1990 for most of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I see football started in 1990 for most of you. Hmph! 1986 for me actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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