davjambo Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 The general manager of motherwell fc just on the BBC. Apparently they turned the undersoil heating on and put a blanket down on friday evening, so it's not their fault apparently. Surely if certain parts of the pitch are frozen that it might require further investigation and then put right. The womans asking the SFA not fine them, if it's not their fault the who's is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Vlads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambojim52 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Don't know what to believe to be honest. Some on here claim the pitch was so bad they drove a tractor over it. Murderwell claim it was a small area. ONE thing is for sure if they won't fine them then we should be given the points. They have a track record of mysteries surounding their USH no more excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Only reasoning I?ve heard that makes sense and fits the facts is that the ground was not draining properly last season so they tried to improve drainage but broke some of the heating pipes by spiking too deep. They were then too cheap to do the necessary repairs to the undersoil heating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Only reasoning I?ve heard that makes sense and fits the facts is that the ground was not draining properly last season so they tried to improve drainage but broke some of the heating pipes by spiking too deep. They were then too cheap to do the necessary repairs to the undersoil heating. Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 motherwell always been a pesh ground against rain and snow! remember a game a few seasons ago through there when the ref abandoned it at half time because of rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Only reasoning I?ve heard that makes sense and fits the facts is that the ground was not draining properly last season so they tried to improve drainage but broke some of the heating pipes by spiking too deep. They were then too cheap to do the necessary repairs to the undersoil heating. And should therefore be punished for it. "Aye, we've got undersoil heating................pipes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 One of the few grounds with a deep end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Not sure what to believe here..............was it a fiddle or just a muddle I've 'slammed' MFC for trying to shaft us here but maybe there was no real 'intent' , other than the fact that they knew the system was dodgy but just hoped for the best. The lack of a cash gate hints at something more sinister though...........money up front and in the bank I expect they will be given yet another FINAL warning .............given the credit crunch and all that Problem is I suppose, many teams like The Well and Killie ARE strapped for cash and fines wont help. Is that our problem .........naw, but I like to be as supportive as I can of the game in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Not sure what to believe here..............was it a fiddle or just a muddle I've 'slammed' MFC for trying to shaft us here but maybe there was no real 'intent' , other than the fact that they knew the system was dodgy but just hoped for the best. The lack of a cash gate hints at something more sinister though...........money up front and in the bank I expect they will be given yet another FINAL warning .............given the credit crunch and all that Problem is I suppose, many teams like The Well and Killie ARE strapped for cash and fines wont help. Is that our problem .........naw, but I like to be as supportive as I can of the game in general Motherwell being strapped for cash should have no relevance to them getting a fine. We are skint but i bet we still have to cough up the extra ten grand for our dicipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I think that in this case(and all others involving persistent offenders)Motherwell should forefit the right of home advantage and be made to play the fixture at tynecastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Motherwell being strapped for cash should have no relevance to them getting a fine.We are skint but i bet we still have to cough up the extra ten grand for our dicipline. You're right mate and we would be battered for it lets make no mistake. I just sometimes feel a bit sorry for these 'historic' clubs like Killie and the Well who just cant buy a decent crowd, and receive some much needed revenue, nowadays ! Maybe I should go on the well chat site for half an hour though...........that would soon change my tune, cos the ^^^^s hate us with a vengeance for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I think that in this case(and all others involving persistent offenders)Motherwell should forefit the right of home advantage and be made to play the fixture at tynecastle. I'd certainly go along with that............fining them does not help US one little bit. The match should be played at Tynie, similar perhaps to a cup tie ? with the Fir park tickets still being valid for those that hold them and exchangeable for your usual seat if that's workable ( ST voucher perhaps ) Given the circumstances, we could also offer great discounts to both supports to try and get a decent crowd. Doesn't help Hearts fans who cant travel for a Wednesday night game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 One plausible explanation I heard today in Airdrie (from a Motherwell hating Hamilton fan I might add), was that apart from having Quinn suspended for the match, that three other Motherwell players were real doubts for the game. Makes you wonder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Vlads Obviously. That Mad Vlad. He's a cad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 its crazy the amount of games that have been called off at fir park this year, something needs to be done about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdewar42 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 At the risk of being accused of changing the subject, may I point out that the BBC sports bulletin referred to, seemed to be ignorant of the passing of the great John Cumming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 It wasn't even horrendous weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdoffstl Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 [QUOTE=1874robbo;672133]Motherwell being strapped for cash should have no relevance to them getting a fine. We are skint but i bet we still have to cough up the extra ten grand for our dicipline. Your spot on with that, if either Murderwell or Kilmarnock are allowed to use "strapped for cash" as an excuse then all clubs (outside of the OF) who are liable for fines, no matter what the reason, should weigh in and demand the same treatment. 10K savings for us GIRUY GFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red21 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 The general manager of motherwell fc just on the BBC. Apparently they turned the undersoil heating on and put a blanket down on friday evening, so it's not their fault apparently. Surely if certain parts of the pitch are frozen that it might require further investigation and then put right. The womans asking the SFA not fine them, if it's not their fault the who's is it. I saw that - attitude from her was terrible - it wasny our fault and we shouldny be fined - who's fault was it then? And some folk wonder why Scottish football is held in such low regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number16 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 should've thrown them out the spl when they had the chance, how ironic is it that they stayed up because of the state of another teams' ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texy Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 What are the chances the SPL will do anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Awwwww Motherwell working really hard to keep their pitches in order. Thats nice. Lets just let them off then. Cant afford a fine? ok. Simple answer, forfeit the game, we get the 3 points. No need for a fine, lesson learned about getting the pitch sorted. Feel free to leave the heating off again if you want, but you'll lose another 3 points Seems simple to me really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterEgo Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 It shouldn't be about the state or otherwise of the undersoil heating. If your ground isn't fit for play you forfeit the match. End of(f), to quote a phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnomarooned Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 In a situation like this how about the away team being immediately awarded 1 point with the remaining 2 points awarded after completion of the rearranged fixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Maybe if they stopped relying on blankets and started using a proper heating system, these things wouldn't happen.... I wonder how what the total costs incurred are for opposition clubs and their supporters because of these cancellations? Perhaps they should add it up and fine Motherwell for the same, it would be the least they deserve. If it was any other club I might have a little more sympathy but they've done it time and time again, and before anyone accuses me of paranoia...I don't think they're out to get us...but there is something very fishy about this set of excuses they've trotted out. They've been told to sort it, and they haven't. Clearly they're not taking it very seriously so I hope this talk of them getting away with a mere slap on the wrists is incorrect.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Sounds like another case of ********* slowly killing the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Only reasoning I?ve heard that makes sense and fits the facts is that the ground was not draining properly last season so they tried to improve drainage but broke some of the heating pipes by spiking too deep. They were then too cheap to do the necessary repairs to the undersoil heating. That's what i read somewhere. Repairs were to cost ?100k and murderwell basically refused to do them citing cost. I doubt the GFA will do much to them as they seem to be their darlings for some reason at the moment. They can't suddenly deduct points as (unless someone knows better) there was no agreement to have a penalty like this if matches were postponed due to the club's fault at the start of the season iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markletissier Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 pitch had vlad flu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davjambo Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 That's what i read somewhere. Repairs were to cost ?100k and murderwell basically refused to do them citing cost. I doubt the GFA will do much to them as they seem to be their darlings for some reason at the moment. They can't suddenly deduct points as (unless someone knows better) there was no agreement to have a penalty like this if matches were postponed due to the club's fault at the start of the season iirc. Their the GFA darlings because of their lowering of prices for the poor down trodden OF fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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