3inaBednar Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 After all this time since he left does anybody actually know the REAL reason why he left? Sorry to bring back painful memories but surely somebody knows the truth by now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 After all this time since he left does anybody actually know the REAL reason why he left? Sorry to bring back painful memories but surely somebody knows the truth by now! He didn't like the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I'm sure someone from Peebles knows:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 After all this time since he left does anybody actually know the REAL reason why he left? Sorry to bring back painful memories but surely somebody knows the truth by now! yes, he was being blackmailed for being photographed in a hotel room with graham norton and a goat.... all of them smeared in peanut butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Anyone who has seen him attempt to speak at Scotland press conferences will have a good idea.... More slurs than a jaik on anti-freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 yes, he was being blackmailed for being photographed in a hotel room with graham norton and a goat.... all of them smeared in peanut butter. Funny you should say that in the dickens last saturday there was a drunk rangers erse (i presume as he said kris boyd was a great guy)who kept telling folk that Burley was a big poof . So Maybe no smoke without fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Funny you should say that in the dickens last saturday there was a drunk rangers erse (i presume as he said kris boyd was a great guy)who kept telling folk that Burley was a big poof .So Maybe no smoke without fire. He did look it at times in the Norway game, I think, running about like John Inman - loads of folk in the pub thought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Anyone who has seen him attempt to speak at Scotland press conferences will have a good idea.... More slurs than a jaik on anti-freeze. Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Funny you should say that in the dickens last saturday there was a drunk rangers erse (i presume as he said kris boyd was a great guy)who kept telling folk that Burley was a big poof .So Maybe no smoke without fire. Jesus Christ (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Funny you should say that in the dickens last saturday there was a drunk rangers erse (i presume as he said kris boyd was a great guy)who kept telling folk that Burley was a big poof .So Maybe no smoke without fire. i think that can just be put down to the kind of sweetie-moothed type he is. i don't think i've stumbled upon a story with my burley / norton / goat / peanut butter love tryst here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 i think that can just be put down to the kind of sweetie-moothed type he is. i don't think i've stumbled upon a story with my burley / norton / goat / peanut butter love tryst here. True but I imagine the daily ****** will run with it the morn anyway:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeraNT Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Jesus Christ (again). Good to she you shocked shaun. jusht what I exshpected. George went because of brown bags - both types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 After all this time since he left does anybody actually know the REAL reason why he left? he sobered up and thought what the donald duck am i doing here with this mad dictator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambojim52 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 yes, he was being blackmailed for being photographed in a hotel room with graham norton and a goat.... all of them smeared in peanut butter. There you see, that's how stupid rumours start, It was not peanut butter, it was MARMITE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Good to she you shocked shaun. jusht what I exshpected. George went because of brown bags - both types. Er, no. Burley left because he was punted by Vlad. He was punted by Vlad because the two men didn't get on, paranoid Vlad didn't trust him, and their objectives and especially methods clashed. If you think it's just a coincidence that he left within hours of Romanov gaining full control, I completely despair. The 'alchie' gibberish was used by the club as a pretext to do what Vlad had wanted to for weeks - and a bunch of goons on here lapped it up. Just as they did when similar gibberish was used against Anderton after he left. You know, Anderton? The man sacked for "overspending his budget" when the club would go on to make a ?12m loss with him long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackaysCentreSpot Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 After all this time since he left does anybody actually know the REAL reason why he left? Sorry to bring back painful memories but surely somebody knows the truth by now! And here is me looking at the title of your thread and thinking you were the one who was going to tell us all why he left. But alas I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Er, no. Burley left because he was punted by Vlad. He was punted by Vlad because the two men didn't get on, paranoid Vlad didn't trust him, and their objectives and especially methods clashed. If you think it's just a coincidence that he left within hours of Romanov gaining full control, I completely despair. The 'alchie' gibberish was used by the club as a pretext to do what Vlad had wanted to for weeks - and a bunch of goons on here lapped it up. Just as they did when similar gibberish was used against Anderton after he left. You know, Anderton? The man sacked for "overspending his budget" when the club would go on to make a ?12m loss with him long gone. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Er, no. Burley left because he was punted by Vlad. He was punted by Vlad because the two men didn't get on, paranoid Vlad didn't trust him, and their objectives and especially methods clashed. If you think it's just a coincidence that he left within hours of Romanov gaining full control, I completely despair. The 'alchie' gibberish was used by the club as a pretext to do what Vlad had wanted to for weeks - and a bunch of goons on here lapped it up. Just as they did when similar gibberish was used against Anderton after he left. You know, Anderton? The man sacked for "overspending his budget" when the club would go on to make a ?12m loss with him long gone. Given rumours of being drunk at work have dogged him his whole managerial career i'd rate them a little higher than "gibberish". I seriously doubt it was the reason he's no longer here but i wouldn't dismiss it ever happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Er, no. Burley left because he was punted by Vlad. He was punted by Vlad because the two men didn't get on, paranoid Vlad didn't trust him, and their objectives and especially methods clashed. If you think it's just a coincidence that he left within hours of Romanov gaining full control, I completely despair. The 'alchie' gibberish was used by the club as a pretext to do what Vlad had wanted to for weeks - and a bunch of goons on here lapped it up. Just as they did when similar gibberish was used against Anderton after he left. You know, Anderton? The man sacked for "overspending his budget" when the club would go on to make a ?12m loss with him long gone. Once again, Absolute Bollocks from Norwich! Shaun, just because you speak about things with absolute conviction, doesn't mean to say that your version of events even remotely resembles what actually happened! To quote someone earlier in the thread........"Jesus Christ"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Burley was in the Diggers with about 50 Hearts fans present, lapping up all the free beer being bought for him the day before training. Pretty much every cabbie in Edinburgh picked him up in George Street absloutely hammered. It wasn't just rumours. Whether it affected his job or how much of a factor it was in his dismissal, only two men know, but along with Vlad's paranoia and the general dislike the two had for each other amongst other things, it certainly was a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Given rumours of being drunk at work have dogged him his whole managerial career i'd rate them a little higher than "gibberish". I seriously doubt it was the reason he's no longer here but i wouldn't dismiss it ever happening. Similar rumours were spread about him at Derby by DoF Murdo Mackay. In order to get a sense of the credibility and character of Mackay, you might like to google his name, and see what he's currently up to... And when the SFA were considering him for the Scotland job, a process of due diligence was carried out and Campbell Ogilvie interviewed about GB, amongst others. They found no case to answer - as has always been the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Once again, Absolute Bollocks from Norwich! Shaun, just because you speak about things with absolute conviction, doesn't mean to say that your version of events even remotely resembles what actually happened! To quote someone earlier in the thread........"Jesus Christ"! Oh - so you disagree with George Foulkes and Liutauras Varanavicius' accounts, do you? Only a couple of weeks ago, you were enraged with my criticism of GF; now you seem to think you know better than he does when it comes to what happened! I mean, what would he know? He was only there, after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Similar rumours were spread about him at Derby by DoF Murdo Mackay. In order to get a sense of the credibility and character of Mackay, you might like to google his name, and see what he's currently up to... And when the SFA were considering him for the Scotland job, a process of due diligence was carried out and Campbell Ogilvie interviewed about GB, amongst others. They found no case to answer - as has always been the reality. Sorry, where was CO at the time Burley was sacked by Hearts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirwalter Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Er, no. Burley left because he was punted by Vlad. He was punted by Vlad because the two men didn't get on, paranoid Vlad didn't trust him, and their objectives and especially methods clashed. If you think it's just a coincidence that he left within hours of Romanov gaining full control, I completely despair. The 'alchie' gibberish was used by the club as a pretext to do what Vlad had wanted to for weeks - and a bunch of goons on here lapped it up. Just as they did when similar gibberish was used against Anderton after he left. You know, Anderton? The man sacked for "overspending his budget" when the club would go on to make a ?12m loss with him long gone. That anyone can persuade himself to think otherwise beggars belief. Clearly, however, delusion is not a trait confined to the east end of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Burley was in the Diggers with about 50 Hearts fans present, lapping up all the free beer being bought for him the day before training. Pretty much every cabbie in Edinburgh picked him up in George Street absloutely hammered. It wasn't just rumours. Whether it affected his job or how much of a factor it was in his dismissal, only two men know, but along with Vlad's paranoia and the general dislike the two had for each other amongst other things, it certainly was a factor. So what?! Does that mean they 50 Hearts fans have drink problems as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirwalter Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Burley was in the Diggers with about 50 Hearts fans present, lapping up all the free beer being bought for him the day before training. Pretty much every cabbie in Edinburgh picked him up in George Street absloutely hammered. It wasn't just rumours. Whether it affected his job or how much of a factor it was in his dismissal, only two men know, but along with Vlad's paranoia and the general dislike the two had for each other amongst other things, it certainly was a factor. How very strange that none of this, to the best of my recollection, was raised on KB before Burley's abrupt departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Oh - so you disagree with George Foulkes and Liutauras Varanavicius' accounts, do you? Only a couple of weeks ago, you were enraged with my criticism of GF; now you seem to think you know better than he does when it comes to what happened! I mean, what would he know? He was only there, after all... That's the only bit you got right! GF was indeed at the board meeting where the future of Burley was discussed........and you need to find out why it was up for discussion in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Sorry, where was CO at the time Burley was sacked by Hearts? Oh, so he wouldn't know or have asked what had happened when at Rangers, then? You still haven't explained why you think you know better than someone who actually was there, by the way. Sorry Iain - I know you want to believe the best, but I just can't take you seriously on this. When it was suggested to you that McGhee turned us down because of being tapped up by Celtic, you just lapped it up instead of asking yourself why the club would think this, and whether it'd suit perfectly Vlad's 'mafia' view of Scottish football. And when the News of the World ran a story a few weeks back about Vlad being sued by Deripaska, you thought a British paper with a readership most of whom have never even heard of Hearts was running it on an inside page not because it had only been released into the public domain earlier that week; but because they wanted to destabilise us ahead of our trip to ER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 How very strange that none of this, to the best of my recollection, was raised on KB before Burley's abrupt departure. Because no one cared? We were winning and he was part of that. Burley could have went through a crate of Tennents Super in the dugout during the game as far as i was concerned assuming we kept winning, i'm sure the majority probably would have aswell. I'm still pretty positive some of it was still mentioned though, particuarly after an episode of Scotsport SPL he was a guest on while here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 That's the only bit you got right! GF was indeed at the board meeting where the future of Burley was discussed........and you need to find out why it was up for discussion in the first place! Because Burley refused to go to Lithuania for a fortnight for treatment for his 'problem'. And quite right too: I'm sure you'd react identically if your employers accused you of having a problem when none such existed. It was a pretext - and Anderton left a short time later because he refused to add his name to such disgraceful nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 How very strange that none of this, to the best of my recollection, was raised on KB before Burley's abrupt departure. To be fair there were a few stories prior to his departure of people saying they'd been out and seen Burley in various stages of both sobriety and drunkenness. No allegations of alcoholism but a few people did say they'd seen him smashed. Could have stemmed from the Derby rumours though I concede... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 To be fair there were a few stories prior to his departure of people saying they'd been out and seen Burley in various stages of both sobriety and drunkenness. No allegations of alcoholism but a few people did say they'd seen him smashed. Could have stemmed from the Derby rumours though I concede... I saw Juho Makela in the casino on Saturday. Is he an alcoholic with a gambling problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 To be fair there were a few stories prior to his departure of people saying they'd been out and seen Burley in various stages of both sobriety and drunkenness. No allegations of alcoholism but a few people did say they'd seen him smashed. Could have stemmed from the Derby rumours though I concede... did the media ever mention it? now that GB is the Scotland manager, and the knives are out for him, im surprised they've never mentioned it recently either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Of course we are forgetting that 3 weeks after the sacking he was asked back by the self same person who realised what a stupid mistake he had made. Let's not delude ourselves-- sacking happens directly after full control -- one man decided -- Vlad. Those who still believe any other fairy stories still believe in Father Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Of course we are forgetting that 3 weeks after the sacking he was asked back by the self same person who realised what a stupid mistake he had made. Let's not delude ourselves-- sacking happens directly after full control -- one man decided -- Vlad. Those who still believe any other fairy stories still believe in Father Christmas. or that VR still doesnt have a hand in team selection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Jesus Christ. I think you need to take 12 steps away from that comment and admit that you have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Oh, so he wouldn't know or have asked what had happened when at Rangers, then? You still haven't explained why you think you know better than someone who actually was there, by the way. Sorry Iain - I know you want to believe the best, but I just can't take you seriously on this. When it was suggested to you that McGhee turned us down because of being tapped up by Celtic, you just lapped it up instead of asking yourself why the club would think this, and whether it'd suit perfectly Vlad's 'mafia view' of Scottish football. And when the News of the World ran a story a few weeks back about Vlad being sued by Deripaska, you thought a British paper with a readership most of whom have never even heard of Hearts was running it on an inside page not because it had only been released into the public domain earlier that week; but because they wanted to destabilise us ahead of our trip to ER! work it out for yourself - would anyone working for Rangers know what happens at HMFC board meetings or vice-versa? Mcghee? Don't make me laugh! Another subject you like to speculate about but know as much as the Burley affair - I think you get your "facts" from Hibs.net. The NOTW? Again "Jesus Christ" right back at ya! Where is your "imminent" exclusive on VR that "the nationals" were about to run a month ago courtesy of your mate in LA? In fact, where has your "movement" gone? Could it be that results on the pitch have scuppered your plans for world domination? ....and you question other people's credibility? I heard all I needed to hear at a recent book launch when certain people sought me out to ask....."who is this guy?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 or that VR still doesnt have a hand in team selection! But only one finger of one hand now it would appear Think the credit crunch has given him lots to think about recently and we are low down on the priority list at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think you need to take 12 steps away from that comment and admit that you have a problem. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 work it out for yourself - would anyone working for Rangers know what happens at HMFC board meetings or vice-versa? Mcghee? Don't make me laugh! Another subject you like to speculate about but know as much as the Burley affair - I think you get your "facts" from Hibs.net. The NOTW? Again "Jesus Christ" right back at ya! Where is your "imminent" exclusive on VR that "the nationals" were about to run a month ago courtesy of your mate in LA? In fact, where has your "movement" gone? Could it be that results on the pitch have scuppered your plans for world domination? ....and you question other people's credibility? I heard all I needed to hear at a recent book launch when certain people sought me out to ask....."who is this guy?" I have no plans for world domination, Iain. A group of people feeling concerned about things at the club is not a crime. I'm absolutely delighted by our recent results, and happy for everyone involved: I hope there is never any reason for the fans to act against the owner. But neither you nor I can predict the future, and expect the unexpected is something of a mantra where Hearts are concerned. If people sought you out to ask about me, they're welcome to contact me themselves. I've got nothing to hide, and understand why others would be suspicious: but I'm just another Jambo. Campbell Ogilvie is bound to have asked contacts of his about what happened: it was the biggest story in Scottish football by a country mile. And re: McGhee and the NotW, sadly, all you demonstrated was the same paranoid "they're all out to get us" complex which Romanov has in spades. Say one thing about him: when it comes to understanding a proportion of Hearts fans, he's clearly been very well advised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 re: McGhee and the NotW, sadly, all you demonstrated was the same paranoid "they're all out to get us" complex which Romanov has in spades. Say one thing about him: when it comes to understanding a proportion of Hearts fans, he's clearly been very well advised. He wouldn't have to be very well advised to know that a fair proportion of Hearts fans, as of all fans of all clubs, have a "they are all out to get us complex". He (and that proportion of Hearts fans) have a reasonable case for thinking they are more right than most similar groups of fans (I cite recent referees/linesmen/fourth officials' decisions, media coverage etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I have no plans for world domination, Iain. A group of people feeling concerned about things at the club is not a crime. I'm absolutely delighted by our recent results, and happy for everyone involved: I hope there is never any reason for the fans to act against the owner. But neither you nor I can predict the future, and expect the unexpected is something of a mantra where Hearts are concerned. If people sought you out to ask about me, they're welcome to contact me themselves. I've got nothing to hide, and understand why others would be suspicious: but I'm just another Jambo. Campbell Ogilvie is bound to have asked contacts of his about what happened: it was the biggest story in Scottish football by a country mile. And re: McGhee and the NotW, sadly, all you demonstrated was the same paranoid "they're all out to get us" complex which Romanov has in spades. Say one thing about him: when it comes to understanding a proportion of Hearts fans, he's clearly been very well advised. Mcghee was coming - fact! Talk to your journo "mates"! NOTW - case was first raised in 2007 for $7M but your fav paper had it at ?7M! I'll predict more crap coming our way as we're playing Rangers on Saturday! Paranoia or Pragmatism? Anyway, where's the big Vlad exclusive that the nationals were going to kill us with? Not like them to miss an opportunity to bash Vlad / HMFC - or is that just more tosh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Mcghee was coming - fact! Talk to your journo "mates"!NOTW - case was first raised in 2007 for $7M but your fav paper had it at ?7M! I'll predict more crap coming our way as we're playing Rangers on Saturday! Paranoia or Pragmatism? Anyway, where's the big Vlad exclusive that the nationals were going to kill us with? Not like them to miss an opportunity to bash Vlad / HMFC - or is that just more tosh? The nationals won't print articles like that until they have all their facts in place and sources accounted for: it's a financial story, not a sports one. Whether they do or don't remains to be seen. McGhee almost came, sure - but he changed his mind. And the club immediately jumped to the conclusion Celtic and/or Strachan had tapped him up - even when the idea of him moving there is now plainly fanciful. He got cold feet, and that coupled with the pay rise Boyle offered proved enough: it happens. And was certainly no loss as things have transpired either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'M IBRAHIM TALL Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Funny you should say that in the dickens last saturday there was a drunk rangers erse (i presume as he said kris boyd was a great guy)who kept telling folk that Burley was a big poof .So Maybe no smoke without fire. He wasn't wearing a Barbour jacket and phoning Saturday's team through to Romanov was he????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 He wouldn't have to be very well advised to know that a fair proportion of Hearts fans, as of all fans of all clubs, have a "they are all out to get us complex". He (and that proportion of Hearts fans) have a reasonable case for thinking they are more right than most similar groups of fans (I cite recent referees/linesmen/fourth officials' decisions, media coverage etc). To an extent, yes. But when he made bonkers statements about 'monkeys' and so on, what was staggering was how many on here lapped it up, instead of at least thinking about it. The biggest problem I've had with all this is that he was so, so quick to talk the talk about the OF - but when it came to walking the walk, it proved another story entirely. All fur coat and no knickers, as the saying goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'M IBRAHIM TALL Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Burley was in the Diggers with about 50 Hearts fans present, lapping up all the free beer being bought for him the day before training. Pretty much every cabbie in Edinburgh picked him up in George Street absloutely hammered. It wasn't just rumours. Whether it affected his job or how much of a factor it was in his dismissal, only two men know, but along with Vlad's paranoia and the general dislike the two had for each other amongst other things, it certainly was a factor. I hear what your saying mate but I have been picked up by more than a few taxi's on George Street, in different states of sobriety, and never once was a punted by my boss. I believe the Burley being a juiceheed was pretty overblown to be fair. Even if he liked a bevvy there was little sign it was in any way imparing his ability to manage Hearts. I go along with the theory that BUrley showed early he wasn't prepared to be manipulated by Vlad and Vlad decided to empty him. I also think this thread is pretty pointless (no offence intended to the OP) because everyone has an opinion, each one as fanciful as the next. He's gone and we'll never know what we may or may not have achieved under him. Think we have to just deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The nationals won't print articles like that until they have all their facts in place and sources accounted for: it's a financial story, not a sports one. Whether they do or don't remains to be seen. McGhee almost came, sure - but he changed his mind. And the club immediately jumped to the conclusion Celtic and/or Strachan had tapped him up[\b] - even when the idea of him moving there is now plainly fanciful. He got cold feet, and that coupled with the pay rise Boyle offered proved enough: it happens. And was certainly no loss as things have transpired either. club source? where did you get that from? as for the other bit....lack of facts and / or sources eh? Yet some on here (and hibs.net no doubt) lap this dross up. Again......."Jesus Christ"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I hear what your saying mate but I have been picked up by more than a few taxi's on George Street, in different states of sobriety, and never once was a punted by my boss. I believe the Burley being a juiceheed was pretty overblown to be fair. Even if he liked a bevvy there was little sign it was in any way imparing his ability to manage Hearts. I go along with the theory that BUrley showed early he wasn't prepared to be manipulated by Vlad and Vlad decided to empty him. I also think this thread is pretty pointless (no offence intended to the OP) because everyone has an opinion, each one as fanciful as the next. He's gone and we'll never know what we may or may not have achieved under him. Think we have to just deal with it. That's it in a nutshell. I couldn't care if he came in leathered everyday and tanned a bottle of vodie infront of the players as long as he got results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 club source? where did you get that from? as for the other bit....lack of facts and / or sources eh? Yet some on here (and hibs.net no doubt) lap this dross up. Again......."Jesus Christ"! I got it from what others who'd talked to people at the club told me. Ultimately, vast amounts of this whole thread are opinion and supposition, as is inevitable: all we can do as fans is try and fill the gaps in with common sense, our own opinions/prejudices or whatever. Which is what leads people to wholly different conclusions about one particular event or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 yes, he was being blackmailed for being photographed in a hotel room with graham norton and a goat.... all of them smeared in peanut butter. Which hotel was it. I prefer to avoid the sort of establishments that allow goats to check in, even if they have a valid credit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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