U.S. Road Trip

[rossi_1983]

Anyone ever done it before?

 

Me and some mates are planning it for next year. Have priced flights into the east coast, then back from San Fran, and our provisional route is about 3500 miles. We are away for 3 weeks, so at the moment it involves about 10 days of 6 hours driving, which is easy enough.

 

Our plan so far is to spend about 9 days on the west coast, mainly San Fran, but also LA and Vegas. We aim to have a few days in Philly also, as that looks the most interesting place on the East coast (want to avoid New York, as half our group have been there before, plus it is the sort of place to go for a long weekend), and a couple of nights in Kentucky, to sample some nice bourbon!

 

We are looking at following a route close to that of route 66, so does anyone know any places along the way that are worth seeing?

 

The quickest route seems to be the one that goes through...Kentucky, St Louis(or Memphis), Oklahoma City, Amarillo, Albuquerque, Flagstaff then to Vegas

 

We are pretty flexible, in that the main thing we want to see after Kentucky is the Canyon, which is a short drive from Flagstaff. We don't know much about the central states, so any advice on places to see would be much appreciated!

[Brian Whittaker's Tache]

I done one a few years ago (the year Princess Di kicked the bucket)

 

Started off in New York for 3 days, from there cross country to Skyline Drive in Virginia where you drive along the top of the Blue Ridge Mountains (saw a real live grizzly standing in the middle of the road, mental!)

 

Spent a couple of days in Nashville which is a brilliant town to visit, mad bars and C&W everywhere. (i'd go back to Nashville over Memphis)

 

Memphis after that, Graceland, Beale Street and Sun Studios etc

 

Then on to Atlanta & Savannah

 

Back to NY

[Therapist]

St Louis is pesh. Avoid at all costs.

[Buffalo Bill]

I'd recommend a few days set aside for Utah and Arizona alone.

 

Canyonlands, Bryce Canyon and Monument Valley will stay with you for the rest of your life.

 

Worth a quick Google image search.

 

 

Buffalo Bill

 

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[Uberjambo]

I would suggest a couple of days in Washington DC before the amazing skydrive. Amazing city. Don't miss Arlington Cemetary.

I would love to take a 3 month tour in a camper van and cover the whole place.

(Waayheh. 1000th post)

[scw98heartsfc]

Try a company called trek america, i used them in 2004, they do organised trips all over america, i went from New York to LA, then back again.

 

Had a great time highly rcomend them.

[loveofthegame]

My old man did it but that was over 20 years ago! Him and his mates picked up a car for a family that where moving from East coast to the West and had 3 weeks to deliver it to the new house on the West.

 

I'd recommend Philly, got a mate who lives there and spent 2 weeks there in summer. Great pub culture and Philly cheese steaks put a kebab to shame! Avoid it if you're a racist though...

[Tazio]

Whatever else you do pay the extra few quid and hire a satnav. Invaluable.

[Rab]

Ditto to the above posts on Philly. Plenty "kulchur" to see during the day and brilliant night life.

[rossi_1983]

Thanks for the replies

 

Philly cheese steaks are high on our list of things to sample!

 

Only reason we had considered St Louis was because it broke the drive up quite nicely, but think Nashville looks a better shout, and isn't too much further to the total drive

 

Will definately be getting a Sat Nav, although the cost of them added on to the rental is working out at about 5 quid a day, so will probably buy one in duty free that can be used back here as well by downloading the maps

[Jambo1874]

Thanks for the replies

 

Philly cheese steaks are high on our list of things to sample!

 

Only reason we had considered St Louis was because it broke the drive up quite nicely, but think Nashville looks a better shout, and isn't too much further to the total drive

 

Will definately be getting a Sat Nav, although the cost of them added on to the rental is working out at about 5 quid a day, so will probably buy one in duty free that can be used back here as well by downloading the maps

 

I've been to Nashville twice and would defintely recomend it - brilliant nightlife. Get yourself a cowboy hat and you'll be amazed at the cheesy chat up lines you can get away with I went with my pal and guys were coming up to us and saying things like 'Ma'am, you're breaking my heart', 'Why you're as cute as a button' and similar - over here we'd probably punch a guy for coming out with something like that, but were giggling like school girls when we heard it from a 'cowboy'. I would say spend at least a couple of nights there (to recover from your hangovers at least).

 

Been to Memphis too - didn't really like it - too hot, full of ignorant british tourists but worth it to say I've been kind of thing. One day/night in Memphis would be enough - visit Graceland, BB Kings Blues club/Beale St then go.

 

Grand Canyon is amazing, well worth it.

[bertracoon]

Avoid Atlanta, there ain't much there. It's like NJ but hotter.

 

Got to have a few days in Vegas and do the Grand Canyon, it was awesome.

 

The middle I'm not so sure of but Philly and D.C. are definitely worth going to.

 

How about flying into Boston and starting there for a few days? Boston's a really nice city and only about 4 hours drive from New York. I'd recommend it.

 

Also, if you're staying in hotels in the cities then you better check about parking. A lot of hotels charge an absolute fortune to park in their garages/lots.

[K1874M]

I done one a few years ago (the year Princess Di kicked the bucket)

 

Started off in New York for 3 days, from there cross country to Skyline Drive in Virginia where you drive along the top of the Blue Ridge Mountains (saw a real live grizzly standing in the middle of the road, mental!)

 

Spent a couple of days in Nashville which is a brilliant town to visit, mad bars and C&W everywhere. (i'd go back to Nashville over Memphis)

 

Memphis after that, Graceland, Beale Street and Sun Studios etc

 

Then on to Atlanta & Savannah

 

Back to NY

 

KICK? She fairly belted the bucket.

[alwaysthereinspirit]

Avoid Atlanta, there ain't much there. It's like NJ but hotter.

 

Got to have a few days in Vegas and do the Grand Canyon, it was awesome.

 

The middle I'm not so sure of but Philly and D.C. are definitely worth going to.

 

How about flying into Boston and starting there for a few days? Boston's a really nice city and only about 4 hours drive from New York. I'd recommend it.

 

Also, if you're staying in hotels in the cities then you better check about parking. A lot of hotels charge an absolute fortune to park in their garages/lots.

 

I'm in Boston and well worth a couple of days. Either arriving here or leaving from here. Most Edinburgh like city in the states. You can just about walk anywhere in about 45 mins. Plenty of night life and depending on when your coming over lots of college girls.

United States is so diverse because of the size of the place. Like most places you'll find good and bad everywhere. America is no different. Living in Edinburgh most Americans you've met have probably been tourists and not the true every day Americans. Working class Americans are just regular guys who like their sports, a beer and a good chin wag. You'll have a blast driving all over. People will talk to you just to hear your accent.

[rossi_1983]

We originally planned to fly in to Boston, but since we only have 3 weeks changed our minds to go to Philly instead. Boston sounded good, but it adds a good few hours worth of driving, before we even consider spending some time there, and we are stretched enough for time as it is!

 

Does anyone have a first hand experience of Amarillo, Albuquerque or Arizona? We are gonna drive through them, so a recommendation of where to stay would be appreciated. Wouldn't be a heavy night in any of them, but we will need to stop in one of the first 2. We are planning a stop in Arizona to set us up for a drive through the Grand Canyon, and Flagstaff is the most convenient place, although it is not too far out the way to go to Phoenix. Does anyone think this slight detour is worth it?

[Kalamazoo Jambo]

We originally planned to fly in to Boston, but since we only have 3 weeks changed our minds to go to Philly instead. Boston sounded good, but it adds a good few hours worth of driving, before we even consider spending some time there, and we are stretched enough for time as it is!

 

Does anyone have a first hand experience of Amarillo, Albuquerque or Arizona? We are gonna drive through them, so a recommendation of where to stay would be appreciated. Wouldn't be a heavy night in any of them, but we will need to stop in one of the first 2. We are planning a stop in Arizona to set us up for a drive through the Grand Canyon, and Flagstaff is the most convenient place, although it is not too far out the way to go to Phoenix. Does anyone think this slight detour is worth it?

 

I would strongly encourage you to devote at least a couple of days to Arizona. I'm assuming you'll go to Vegas via the Hoover Dam (itself worth a stop) from the Grand Canyon. I'd suggest that you try to get a night's accommodation at the South Rim of the Canyon (inside the National Park, or just outside, in Tusayan). Flagstaff is a good place to stop before you've visited the Canyon, and you're only an hour away from Sedona, which is absolutely stunning (red rock country). I'd advise you to spend extra time at the Grand Canyon and Flagstaff / Sedona, rather than bothering with Phoenix. You're also probably going to go past Meteor Crater (just off I40, between Flagstaff & Albuquerque), and that's definitely worth a visit.

[rossi_1983]

I would strongly encourage you to devote at least a couple of days to Arizona. I'm assuming you'll go from Vegas via the Hoover Dam (itself worth a stop) to the Grand Canyon. I'd suggest that you try to get a night's accommodation at the South Rim of the Canyon (inside the National Park, or just outside, in Tusayan). Flagstaff is a good place to stop after you've visited the Canyon, and you're only an hour away from Sedona, which is absolutely stunning (red rock country). I'd advise you to spend extra time at the Grand Canyon and Flagstaff / Sedona, rather than bothering with Phoenix. You're also probably going to go past Meteor Crater (just off I40, between Flagstaff & Albuquerque), and that's definitely worth a visit.

 

Was thinking that we could do the south rim of the canyon on the drive from Flagstaff to Vegas, including going over the dam. Is that too much for one drive?

 

Will definately look into the other features you mentioned, as we are not seeing too much other scenery, and what you suggested sounds really good!

 

I am starting to think it will be difficult to decide what to see in our 3 weeks. Places like Death Valley, which would be great to see, are probably out of our reach considering all the other things we need to do

[Kalamazoo Jambo]

Was thinking that we could do the south rim of the canyon on the drive from Flagstaff to Vegas, including going over the dam. Is that too much for one drive?

 

Will definately look into the other features you mentioned, as we are not seeing too much other scenery, and what you suggested sounds really good!

 

I am starting to think it will be difficult to decide what to see in our 3 weeks. Places like Death Valley, which would be great to see, are probably out of our reach considering all the other things we need to do

 

I'd say that Flagstaff to Vegas in one day would be too much if you're also trying to see the Grand Canyon en route. If you were going straight there, it would possible (I've done that myself), but the Grand Canyon is a significant detour (but an essential one) and it would be a huge shame if you didn't get the time to enjoy it. It's breathtaking.

 

BTW, the viewing platform with the glass floor that takes you out over the Grand Canyon is NOT in the National Park - it's even more out of the way and I wouldn't bother with it.

[rossi_1983]

I'd say that Flagstaff to Vegas in one day would be too much if you're also trying to see the Grand Canyon en route. If you were going straight there, it would possible (I've done that myself), but the Grand Canyon is a significant detour (but an essential one) and it would be a huge shame if you didn't get the time to enjoy it. It's breathtaking.

 

BTW, the viewing platform with the glass floor that takes you out over the Grand Canyon is NOT in the National Park - it's even more out of the way and I wouldn't bother with it.

 

Definately gonna see the grand canyon, so will probably stay an extra night in Az to see it properly. Think I will give the glass walkway a miss as I ain't a big fan of heights!!!!

 

Thanks for the advice

[Heaven98]

Places like Death Valley, which would be great to see, are probably out of our reach considering all the other things we need to do

 

Forget Death Valley. It's hot, it's a snooze and it goes on for ages.

[Jambo1874]

We are planning a stop in Arizona to set us up for a drive through the Grand Canyon, and Flagstaff is the most convenient place, although it is not too far out the way to go to Phoenix. Does anyone think this slight detour is worth it?

 

I wouldn't bother with Phoenix - nice and all but not worth going out of your way for.

 

When we done a road trip we were coming from the other direction (ie LA to the east coast). We drove from Las Vegas to Grand Canyon in one day, stopping off at Hoover Dam. Stayed the night in the holiday inn express in Canyon village then up at the crack of dawn to spend the whole day at the Grand Canyon, then drove to Flagstaff and stayed the night there (our next stop was Phoenix but that was because I wanted to go to Rawhide - a wild west town theme park kind of thing).

 

Something the reverse of that would be best - but you should try and see a sunset or dawn at the Grand Canyon (both are well worth it) so you would be best going onto Vegas the day after the Grand Canyon.

 

We were there 2 days after 9/11 so there were no helicopter tours or anything available but I hear they are quite good as well.

[cosanostra]

Drove from Vancouver BC all the way to Tijiuana in Mexico taking in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, San Diego and a load of other places.

 

Great times.

[Jambo1874]

Drove from Vancouver BC all the way to Tijiuana in Mexico taking in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, San Diego and a load of other places.

 

Great times.

 

That sounds pretty much like the holiday we are planning for next year!

 

Any particular places you would suggest? I've already been to LA and san Diego so not planning on spending much time there - probably San Francisco and some of the wine places.

[Glamorgan Jambo]

Drove from Traverse City, Michigan to New Orleans, and back in 8 days taking in Mammoth caves, kentucky, nashville, Memphis, N'orleans, Gattlinburg Tennessee (avoid at all costs) and a few other places with some great southern diners.

 

It's a bit out of your route but the Tetons/Yellowstone region is top notch.

 

And Devils Tower in Wyoming (the peak from close encounters)

[Deek]

I agree with the above. Its a pity your drive is to the south as Yellowstone is one place everybody should visit before they die. The drive south from Yellowstone through Jackson Hole and the Tetons was pretty amazing as well.

 

[cosanostra]

That sounds pretty much like the holiday we are planning for next year!

 

Any particular places you would suggest? I've already been to LA and san Diego so not planning on spending much time there - probably San Francisco and some of the wine places.

 

SF, Seattle, Vancouver Island, the Oregon coast were all superb.

 

I'd say avoid Las Vegas, it's absolutely rubbish. The novelty wears off quickly and you're left with a ridiculously expensive Blackpool where it's too hot to even step outside.

[rossi_1983]

I agree with the above. Its a pity your drive is to the south as Yellowstone is one place everybody should visit before they die. The drive south from Yellowstone through Jackson Hole and the Tetons was pretty amazing as well.

 

 

I had also made a route that included yellowstone, but since it was over 5000 miles it quickly got rejected! It looks fantastic, and is definately a place I want to go in the future, but for this trip we chose the South route.

 

SF, Seattle, Vancouver Island, the Oregon coast were all superb.

 

I'd say avoid Las Vegas, it's absolutely rubbish. The novelty wears off quickly and you're left with a ridiculously expensive Blackpool where it's too hot to even step outside.

 

We are only planning a couple of nights in Vegas, 1 to see a show, the other to lose all my cash, and probably the car , in a casino. Due to driving, it will only be 1 full day in Vegas so shouldn't get too bored.

 

I wouldn't bother with Phoenix - nice and all but not worth going out of your way for.

 

When we done a road trip we were coming from the other direction (ie LA to the east coast). We drove from Las Vegas to Grand Canyon in one day, stopping off at Hoover Dam. Stayed the night in the holiday inn express in Canyon village then up at the crack of dawn to spend the whole day at the Grand Canyon, then drove to Flagstaff and stayed the night there (our next stop was Phoenix but that was because I wanted to go to Rawhide - a wild west town theme park kind of thing).

 

Something the reverse of that would be best - but you should try and see a sunset or dawn at the Grand Canyon (both are well worth it) so you would be best going onto Vegas the day after the Grand Canyon.

 

We were there 2 days after 9/11 so there were no helicopter tours or anything available but I hear they are quite good as well.

 

That sounds like a good schedule...thanks

[Heaven98]

Drove from Vancouver BC all the way to Tijiuana in Mexico taking in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, San Diego and a load of other places.

 

Great times.

 

That's an amazing trip. It's quite cool this West Coast thing, isn't it?

[cosanostra]

That's an amazing trip. It's quite cool this West Coast thing, isn't it?

 

It sure is mate.

 

Was an incredible trip.

 

The Oregon Coast and North California were two of the best places i've ever been.

 

If you like snowboarding, Whistler near Vancouver was incredible as well.

[Sgt.Rock]

Did this in 1984 so some things will have changed obviously but I suspect there's still very little of interest between St.Louis (pron 'Lewis', not 'Looie' as the folksy movies would have you believe) and Denver. Unless you're into people watching and observing redneck America. Our Toyota broke down and we were refused service in a car parts shop: 'we don't fix them things..' we were advised.

 

Heading west out of St Louis, we stopped off at a place called Wilson, Kansas and went to the Midland Hotel for tea and again for breakfast the next day. We seemed to be the only customers apart from the sheriff. The place was run by a guy called Kansas. From Kansas. You get the picture. Twenty years later I discovered the place was 'famous' and now even has it's own web site...but Kansas is long gone, I fear.

 

Would recommend the Black Canyon / Gunnison national park as well as the more obvious Grand Canyon (Hopi point is spectacular; a bit well-trodden, but I loved it when the locals gave the sun a round of applause when it set). Hoover Dam is pretty impressive too. Las Vegas was pants, but I'm not a gambler and once you've been propositioned by one prostitute the novelty wears off. When driving around Colorado, Arizona, Nevada keep your car radio on and listen to the multitude of short-range FM stations to find out how the Cortez High School baseball team got on versus local rivals - an invaluable insight into the local ...erm, culture.

 

We avoided LA and stayed in Santa Barbara which was a relaxing place with a very long beach and a huge (Sunday?) arts and crafts fair. Then up to San Francisco which remains one of the most european of US cities. So much so that during my first visit there, at the end of this trip, the cable cars were being refurbished and they'd replaced them with...London buses.

 

Enjoy your trip. It's a fascinating country - in equal parts welcoming, scary, spectacular, surprising ....and wierd.

[Basil Hayden]

I'd recommend a few days set aside for Utah and Arizona alone.

 

Canyonlands, Bryce Canyon and Monument Valley will stay with you for the rest of your life.

 

Worth a quick Google image search.

 

 

Buffalo Bill

 

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Having driven rather a lot of the US, I couldn't agree more with this.

 

Do the whole mid-west in a couple of very long drives!

[Heaven98]

It sure is mate.

 

Was an incredible trip.

 

The Oregon Coast and North California were two of the best places i've ever been.

 

If you like snowboarding, Whistler near Vancouver was incredible as well.

 

We're off to Mammoth over Christmas. The boys are real snow-boarders. It all looks too painful to me.

 

Really strange waking up this morning and a normally blue sky is thick with ash. Makes you realize how fragile it is out here - earthquakes, fires etc. I've been lucky enough to travel to loads of countries but to come from Scotland and end up living in California takes some beating.

 

Cheers,

 

David

[Uberjambo]

Remember that, as part of the Visa Waiver Programme, you now need to go to the US embassy online to get permission to travel, from the 9th of January 2009.

[Jambo1874]

SF, Seattle, Vancouver Island, the Oregon coast were all superb.

 

I'd say avoid Las Vegas, it's absolutely rubbish. The novelty wears off quickly and you're left with a ridiculously expensive Blackpool where it's too hot to even step outside.

 

Cheers,

 

I've been to Vegas as part of another trip and had the worst experience ever - had severe sunstroke (due to driving from Palm Springs to Vegas with the hood down - doh), woke up the next day after one of the worst nights of illness ever (many, many trips to the loo, fever, even hallucinations) and it was Sep 11th 2001 so not a great day to be in USA.

 

Not in a rush to get back there

 

As an aside, Sep 12th we were due to drive from Vegas to Grand Canyon - a long trip and I was still feeling delicate and, err, having to dash to the loo a lot so I sent my husband to the pharmacy expecting him to come back with some diacalm or something. Instead he came back with a banana .... apparently the pharmacist advised that would be best thing for my situation (my initial reaction was to question if the banana was to act like a cork ...). I made the trip OK so eating the banana did work.

[Swimmer]

It sure is mate.

 

Was an incredible trip.

 

The Oregon Coast and North California were two of the best places i've ever been.

 

If you like snowboarding, Whistler near Vancouver was incredible as well.

 

I visit Portland fairly regularly and agree that it is a stunning area of the world.

[Gambo]

I will go against the grain and say take in St. Louis.

 

Lovely place to spend a couple of days imo (wouldn't spend more than a couple of days). The Mississippi, the Arch (cracking museum underneath if you need to escape the heat), St.Louis Cardinals etc etc.

[cosanostra]

I visit Portland fairly regularly and agree that it is a stunning area of the world.

 

I was based there for the best part of a year and I absolutely loved it.

 

Ever been to Multnomah Falls or Cannon Beach?

[Sharpie]

I have driven all over the States and have really not found a plae that didn't have some interest to me. As a Civil War buff of I sort enjoyed being in Virginia and visiting battlefields etc. Love Arizona some of the scenery is spectacular. As I have said many times having retired pretty well from major travel, Las Vegas makes an excellent destination for us, 21 hours of driving split into three days makes it perfect. Place I liked least strangely enough was New Orleans. Hot, and uncomfortably humid. The French Quarter and Bourbon Street, strip joints and tee shirt shops. I will say I do enjoy the Western States best.

[$Tino$]

Sorry not read all the replies only the opening post, but, can I suggest you take a look at this thread on the football365 forum.

 

If only I could just pack up and go, this would be the one I'd follow...

 

http://forum.football365.com/index.php?t=msg&th=130950&start=0&

[Chip Douglas]

Sorry not read all the replies only the opening post, but, can I suggest you take a look at this thread on the football365 forum.

 

If only I could just pack up and go, this would be the one I'd follow...

 

http://forum.football365.com/index.php?t=msg&th=130950&start=0&

 

It would be criminal to go all that way and not take in Boston and the New England states. I'd recommend you extend the journey a little, take in Mass, Maine, NH and Vermont, Niagara and end the trip in Toronto.

[J.T.F.Robertson]

It sure is mate.

 

Was an incredible trip.

 

The Oregon Coast and North California were two of the best places i've ever been.

 

If you like snowboarding, Whistler near Vancouver was incredible as well.

 

I did that trip once, only from Calgary, through Idaho/Washington, down to Portland and onto the Coast Highway. You're absolutely right, the drive through Southern Oregon and Northern California (through the Redwoods) was breathtaking. It was over thirty years ago, but still stands out in my mind.

[mac]

PCH 1 is clearly the best road in the world.

[DesertDawg]

You seem to be getting plenty of advice but here's my 2c worth anyway.

 

There is NOTHING in Amarillo apart from this..........

 

http://www.bigtexan.com/

 

If you can eat the free steak post your pic on here.

 

There is nothing in Albuquerque at all so take a side trip from Interstate 40 to Santa Fe.

 

http://www.santafenm.gov/

 

Take the train to the Grand Canyon from Williams, AZ. It's THE way to go. Free booze on board too.

 

http://www.thetrain.com/

 

And then...Vegas...the Entertainment Capital of the WORLD!

 

http://www.wildnatureimages.com/Las%20Vegas.htm

 

Let me know if you need more South West info.

[Swimmer]

I was based there for the best part of a year and I absolutely loved it.

 

Ever been to Multnomah Falls or Cannon Beach?

 

Many times Cos, Multnomah is just beautiful. And as for Cannon beach, those rocks along the coastline are amazing.

 

The sights on a clear day are also fantastic - Mount Hood to the East, Mount Ranier and Mount St Helens to the North.

 

A few hours east you also have the high desert which is also quite incredible.

 

I normally stay just of 185th and Cornell (just off Highway 26) at Tannasbourne. The company I work for is based in Science Park Drive, about 1/4 mile north of the Nike HQ.

 

I love the area, it is fantastic.

[Buffalo Bill]

Why the South West is the place to visit.

 

Canyonlands, Ut

 

Bryce Canyon, Ut

 

Zion NP, Ut

 

Monument Valley, Az, Ut

 

Grand Canyon, Az

 

Buffalo Bill

 

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[Basil Hayden]

 

Of course there need to be photos in assorted Hearts tops in all the major places

[rossi_1983]

Holy thread resurrection, Batman!

 

Only 4 days til we travel to the states

 

Hotels and stuff is all booked now, but am still interested in suggestions on where to go in our chosen destinations!

 

The route is...

 

Philly ... 2 nights

Washington D.C. half day

West Virginia area ...1 night (random night stop)

Loretto, Kentucky, few hours (makers mark!!!)

Louisville, Kentucky...1 night

St Louis...2 nights (Bud factory, arch and Cards game)

Oklahoma...1 night

Amarillo...1 night (palo duro canyon possibly)

Albuquerque...1 night (via Roswell)

Phoenix...1 night (drive to flagstaff via sedona and montezuma's castle)

Flagstaff...1 night (grand canyon)

Vegas...3 nights (hoover dam en route)

Diego...2 nights

LA...2 nights

Disney...2 nights

San Fran...3 nights (alcatraz)

 

Any more suggestion greatly appreciated!

[Jamboross]

I was thinking about getting an Amtrak pass for next year and going round the states on the train. I'd love to drive it but I can't drive, although if I can talk some mates into it it'd be awesome.

 

I've been reading a similar thread on another forum I'm a member on ( http://www.punktastic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=73114 ), and someone on there recommends taking a drive down from Flagstaff past Sedona. It's totally out the way if you're planning on heading to Vegas from Flagstaff but having looked at some pictures of the drive it looks breathtaking.

 

EDIT : Hah, I never noticed in your last post you're driving via Sedona anyway! Nevermind!

[Rab]

Holy thread resurrection, Batman!

 

Only 4 days til we travel to the states

 

Hotels and stuff is all booked now, but am still interested in suggestions on where to go in our chosen destinations!

 

The route is...

 

Philly ... 2 nights

 

The Phillies are looking good for winning their division this year, if you can get tickets I'd definitely recommend a game.

 

Does the logo look familiar?

 

[Kalamazoo Jambo]

San Fran...3 nights (alcatraz)

 

Alcatraz is best visited on the night tour (less crowded, more atmospheric), but you will need to book several days in advance.

 

Have a great trip!