Robbie says...Laszlo is the New Levein

[Charlie-Brown]

Right-back Robbie Neilson is delighted to be back playing after a seven-month injury absence and he revealed that Laszlo is the 'new Craig Levein.'

'I like playing for Csaba. His man-management skills are very good and he is tactically astute. He reminds me a bit of Craig Levein, when he was here.

'I have been out since April, so it's great to be back playing. Now I just want to get my starting place back.'

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1085931/Nades-Heart-warming-gift-Jambos-boss-Laszlo.html

[Del1812]

Before everyone slates this comment, may I remind you of how good Levein looked after his first season and a half at Hearts?

 

So many Hearts fans demanded stability in the manager's position. Now we have it and it hasn't been a Burley type start (one in a hundred chance btw) a group are wanting the manager out. It's ridiculous.

[berrathanhibs]

i agree bud. how many hearts regulars are chabas own players? this aint his team

[Del1812]

i agree bud. how many hearts regulars are chabas own players? this aint his team

 

It took until when De Vries to arrive for Levein to eventually build the team he wanted. That took literally one and a half years. Now, maybe I just remember that period more positively but I don't think many were calling for Levein's head too much in that period. Everyone knew it would be a struggle and it was, but we got there in the end.

 

Now, Laszlo's stint so far has been a struggle but really... who didn't think it would be?

[berrathanhibs]

i would rather win wan nil than draw or get beat. but still can believe the nightmare performences against the ugly wedgie sisters

[Goodfella]

Before everyone slates this comment, may I remind you of how good Levein looked after his first season and a half at Hearts?

 

So many Hearts fans demanded stability in the manager's position. Now we have it and it hasn't been a Burley type start (one in a hundred chance btw) a group are wanting the manager out. It's ridiculous.

 

One of the most sensible posts I've read on here since our "awful" win over Hamilton...

[berrathanhibs]

am new to jkb and the posts are so negative all the time. is this wat vlad has done to our wonderful club?

[Ryan Gosling]

Peanut says...Robbie is silly

[Randle P McMurphy]

One of the most sensible posts I've read on here since our "awful" win over Hamilton...

 

hear hear

[The Real Maroonblood]

Before everyone slates this comment, may I remind you of how good Levein looked after his first season and a half at Hearts?

 

So many Hearts fans demanded stability in the manager's position. Now we have it and it hasn't been a Burley type start (one in a hundred chance btw) a group are wanting the manager out. It's ridiculous.

 

I didn't realise that Robbie was out of action because he has had a lobotomy.

[Coco]

I disagreed with many things that Levein said and did as Hearts manager but I don't remember him ever telling such a blatant lie about a player.

 

Kingston is fine when he shoots but gets a pain in his leg when he passes the ball. What a load of rubbish.

 

New Levein? No the new Valdas.

[The Real Maroonblood]

I disagreed with many things that Levein said and did as Hearts manager but I don't remember him ever telling such a blatant lie about a player.

 

Kingston is fine when he shoots but gets a pain in his leg when he passes the ball. What a load of rubbish.

 

New Levein? No the new Valdas.

 

Exactly. The propoganda machine is in full swing.

[Charlie-Brown]

I disagreed with many things that Levein said and did as Hearts manager but I don't remember him ever telling such a blatant lie about a player.

 

Kingston is fine when he shoots but gets a pain in his leg when he passes the ball. What a load of rubbish.

 

New Levein? No the new Valdas.

 

Is Robbie a lier as well then Coco?

[Coco]

Is Robbie a lier as well then Coco?

 

I disagree with him.

 

I think that Laszlo's public berating of Glen is a signal of his man management skills. And his supinity under the committee is another.

 

I think that Laszlo's tactical awareness is probably the worst in the league having seen him against every team.

 

But I don't think that makes Robbie a liar because I disagree with him.

 

Where I think that Laszlo is a liar is that he says that Kingston is out because of a pain in his leg when he passes the ball and that pain is not there when he shoots.

[Charlie-Brown]

I think certain people decided they didn't want Laszlo even before he was appointed and gladly jump on any excuse to put the boot in.

[Martin_T]

I disagree with him.

 

I think that Laszlo's public berating of Glen is a signal of his man management skills. And his supinity under the committee is another.

 

I think that Laszlo's tactical awareness is probably the worst in the league having seen him against every team.

 

But I don't think that makes Robbie a liar because I disagree with him.

 

Where I think that Laszlo is a liar is that he says that Kingston is out because of a pain in his leg when he passes the ball and that pain is not there when he shoots.

 

It's not unusual for a club to claim a player is 'injured' even if there is another reason involved though is it?

 

Think about it Coco, an 'injury' is a non-story for the press. Any admission that say Kingston tried to banjo Berra after the Hibs game or that Hearts can't afford to pay his appearance money and suddenly it becomes a story and the press start digging which is disruptive to the team's preparation etc. Furthermore the transfer value of player openly called a troublemaker by his previous club would be compromised and on current form we wouldn't be getting much for Kingston as it is......

[Dazo]

Is Robbie a lier as well then Coco?

 

As Robbie said that Kingston is out because of a sore leg when he passes ?

[Coco]

It's not unusual for a club to claim a player is 'injured' even if there is another reason involved though is it?

 

Think about it Coco, an 'injury' is a non-story for the press. Any admission that say Kingston tried to banjo Berra after the Hibs game or that Hearts can't afford to pay his appearance money and suddenly it becomes a story and the press start digging which is disruptive to the team's preparation etc. Furthermore the transfer value of player openly called a troublemaker by his previous club would be compromised and on current form we wouldn't be getting much for Kingston as it is......

 

Just like Craig Gordon had a cold when he was warming up as sub with a T shirt on? Or when he had to 'rest' before an international get together. Or when Skacel and Fyssas had the 'flu'?

 

I would never have signed Kingston after his loan spell. The signs were all there about how he would be as a player and commented as such at the time.

 

But I am sick of the lies that the club tell the fans. Total disrespect to us.

[Coco]

I think certain people decided they didn't want Laszlo even before he was appointed and gladly jump on any excuse to put the boot in.

 

I didn't want Laszlo when he was appointed for the following reasons and posted as such:

- I had never heard of him, and thought it was time for a manager who knew Scottish football

- I wanted us to bring in Jefferies/Levein/McGhee/Hughes

- when Laszlo was appointed it became clear that the club had misrepresented his record or at least allowed it to happen

- that record is poor, both playing and managerial

- at the first press conference it was clear that he was just the latest member of the committee and nothing had changed.

 

Since then his discipline problem on the touchline, the rotten inflexible tactics and shameful capitulation to Celtic, added to the berating of a young player in public have done nothing to change my mind. Have seen nothing from him to suggest that he should be given time under the committee. I think we could do far better than Laszlo.

[Charlie-Brown]

Just like Craig Gordon had a cold when he was warming up as sub with a T shirt on? Or when he had to 'rest' before an international get together. Or when Skacel and Fyssas had the 'flu'?

 

I would never have signed Kingston after his loan spell. The signs were all there about how he would be as a player and commented as such at the time.

 

But I am sick of the lies that the club tell the fans. Total disrespect to us.

 

Hibs explained Rob Jones was missing on wednesday for unspecified family reasons (after rumours of an altercation with rat-boy) and Dunfermline said last week that one of their players was missing last saturday because he was 'on holiday' (after allegations of a rammy with some supporters).

[Coco]

Hibs explained Rob Jones was missing on wednesday for unspecified family reasons (after rumours of an altercation with rat-boy) and Dunfermline said last week that one of their players was missing last saturday because he was 'on holiday' (after allegations of a rammy with some supporters).

 

I couldn't care less.

 

What has that got to do with Kingston or Laszlo or Hearts.

 

Other clubs tell lies or mistruths to their supporters so we should accept it when it regularly happens at Hearts?

 

Anyway, enough of this for now, I'm away to the game. Here's to 3 wins in 3.

[Martin_T]

Just like Craig Gordon had a cold when he was warming up as sub with a T shirt on? Or when he had to 'rest' before an international get together. Or when Skacel and Fyssas had the 'flu'?

 

I would never have signed Kingston after his loan spell. The signs were all there about how he would be as a player and commented as such at the time.

 

But I am sick of the lies that the club tell the fans. Total disrespect to us.

 

I don't think you addressed the point I made in my previous post. I don't doubt that the club is lying, but I think in this particular instance, there is a valid reason for doing so.

 

I fully agree that in the Gordon, Skacel and Fyssas cases, the lies were despicable.

[IMA MAROON]

Some fans think they have a right to know everything that goes on at the club when the fact is it has nothing at all to do with them.

[Rudolf's Mate]

I'd be a whole lot happier if he dropped the lone striker. This works if you have the right players however we don't at the moment. Hopefully this means that he is trying to get them playing this formation in the hope that he'll get some players in when the window opens. I like Csabba but he has to buy in Jan and buy well. He's had a chance to see what the players can do so now he must surely be in a position to do what he wants in Jan.

[The Old Tolbooth]

i agree bud. how many hearts regulars are chabas own players? this aint his team

 

That's a pretty decent point to make, however I'm not convinced with Csaba and his tactics, he's done a lot to leave me bewildered during matches, especially bringing Robbie into midfield and leaving Eggert at right back

 

In my opinion he's either pretty much clueless with the players he has, or he's being told what to do by powers above, but surely powers above wouldn't be able to make instant decisions on the sidelines during games for a spur of the moment call.

 

Nothing would surprise me anymore at our shambles of a club.

[Mr Quagmire]

I couldn't care less.

 

What has that got to do with Kingston or Laszlo or Hearts.

 

Other clubs tell lies or mistruths to their supporters so we should accept it when it regularly happens at Hearts?

 

Anyway, enough of this for now, I'm away to the game. Here's to 3 wins in 3.

 

You live in a fantasy world Coco, keep it real.

[Jam Tarts 1874]

I'd be a whole lot happier if he dropped the lone striker. This works if you have the right players however we don't at the moment. Hopefully this means that he is trying to get them playing this formation in the hope that he'll get some players in when the window opens. I like Csabba but he has to buy in Jan and buy well. He's had a chance to see what the players can do so now he must surely be in a position to do what he wants in Jan.

 

I don't think we can afford to buy the number of players that we would need to have to make Csaba's formation work. Csaba's time in charge will just run it's course, but if in the meantime there is some stability and we have a better season than last - that will be progress.

[Daveandal]

We finished 8th last year..... 8th.

 

When Csabba was appointed most of us.. hell 95% of us just wanted an improvement... there has been a massive improvement...... we are playing as a team..... ok we are not Brazil but its so much better than last year its unreal. We are 4th and 2 points behind Utd.... who according to the press are playing out of their skins

 

The players like him, and I think the majority of us like him we just get shouted down by the vocal minority.... I remember when Levein was in charge I sat next to a bloke who would spend the whole game slating him.... he must have been bullied by him at school or something... there will always be people who don't like whats going on but at the end of the day we are Hearts fans and we all want Hearts to win.......

 

I'm more confident with Casbba in charge than I have been in a long time.

 

http://scotsport.podbean.com

[Mr Quagmire]

We finished 8th last year..... 8th.

 

When Csabba was appointed most of us.. hell 95% of us just wanted an improvement... there has been a massive improvement...... we are playing as a team..... ok we are not Brazil but its so much better than last year its unreal. We are 4th and 2 points behind Utd.... who according to the press are playing out of their skins

 

The players like him, and I think the majority of us like him we just get shouted down by the vocal minority.... I remember when Levein was in charge I sat next to a bloke who would spend the whole game slating him.... he must have been bullied by him at school or something... there will always be people who don't like whats going on but at the end of the day we are Hearts fans and we all want Hearts to win.......

 

I'm more confident with Casbba in charge than I have been in a long time.

 

http://scotsport.podbean.com

 

Sensible Post, I agree.

[Dazo]

We finished 8th last year..... 8th.

 

When Csabba was appointed most of us.. hell 95% of us just wanted an improvement... there has been a massive improvement...... we are playing as a team..... ok we are not Brazil but its so much better than last year its unreal. We are 4th and 2 points behind Utd.... who according to the press are playing out of their skins

 

The players like him, and I think the majority of us like him we just get shouted down by the vocal minority.... I remember when Levein was in charge I sat next to a bloke who would spend the whole game slating him.... he must have been bullied by him at school or something... there will always be people who don't like whats going on but at the end of the day we are Hearts fans and we all want Hearts to win.......

 

I'm more confident with Casbba in charge than I have been in a long time.

 

http://scotsport.podbean.com

 

 

I think most of us wanted improvement in the way the club was being run. Until that happened whoever is wearing the managers jacket is pretty much irrelevant. Things may have improved on the who picks the team side of things but we have ended up with a manager who repeatedly plays people out of position and does not appear to know what a striker is.

[winston churchill]

We finished 8th last year..... 8th.

 

When Csabba was appointed most of us.. hell 95% of us just wanted an improvement... there has been a massive improvement...... we are playing as a team..... ok we are not Brazil but its so much better than last year its unreal. We are 4th and 2 points behind Utd.... who according to the press are playing out of their skins

 

The players like him, and I think the majority of us like him we just get shouted down by the vocal minority.... I remember when Levein was in charge I sat next to a bloke who would spend the whole game slating him.... he must have been bullied by him at school or something... there will always be people who don't like whats going on but at the end of the day we are Hearts fans and we all want Hearts to win.......

 

I'm more confident with Casbba in charge than I have been in a long time.

 

http://scotsport.podbean.com

 

 

 

post of the week.

[topcat]

I think certain people decided they didn't want Laszlo even before he was appointed and gladly jump on any excuse to put the boot in.

 

Your name?

Charlie-Brown

 

Your Occupation?

Kickback poster

 

And Your Specialist Subect?

Stating the bleeding obvious!

[David Brent]

I don't doubt that the club is lying, but I think in this particular instance, there is a valid reason for doing so.

 

What evidence do you have that the club is lying about Kingston's injury?

 

The medical staff can't find a problem with him - Csaba has openly admitted this.

 

Kingston claims that his leg is fine when he runs, but only has pain when he passes the ball - Csaba has openly admitted this.

 

The club will have to refer Kingston to specialists to determine the cause of this pain - Csaba has openly admitted this.

 

When quizzed by reporters at the press conference about the kingston injury, Csaba openly invited the press to ask Kingston directly.

 

Csaba appears to have been as open with the fans and the media as he can be. If the player tells him that he is unfit and can't play, what more can Csaba do?

[tolcross lad]

What evidence do you have that the club is lying about Kingston's injury?

 

The medical staff can't find a problem with him - Csaba has openly admitted this.

 

Kingston claims that his leg is fine when he runs, but only has pain when he passes the ball - Csaba has openly admitted this.

 

The club will have to refer Kingston to specialists to determine the cause of this pain - Csaba has openly admitted this.

 

When quizzed by reporters at the press conference about the kingston injury, Csaba openly invited the press to ask Kingston directly.

 

Csaba appears to have been as open with the fans and the media as he can be. If the player tells him that he is unfit and can't play, what more can Csaba do?

 

Another sensible post.This is getting ridiculous.

[MacDonald Jardine]

It took until when De Vries to arrive for Levein to eventually build the team he wanted. That took literally one and a half years. Now, maybe I just remember that period more positively but I don't think many were calling for Levein's head too much in that period. Everyone knew it would be a struggle and it was, but we got there in the end.

 

Now, Laszlo's stint so far has been a struggle but really... who didn't think it would be?

 

I remember a number of folk moaning that he hadn't done anything as a manager because he'd only been at Cowdenbeath, was a cheap option and would do what Robinson told him, unlike Jeffries.

Changed days eh?

[shaun.lawson]

I remember a number of folk moaning that he hadn't done anything as a manager because he'd only been at Cowdenbeath, was a cheap option and would do what Robinson told him, unlike Jeffries.

Changed days eh?

 

It's actually hilarious now that some accused Levein of being Robinson's puppet. He never was: he simply accepted and bought into the cuts which had to be made, which made him the right man for a more austere era - albeit not as austere as it should have been.

[Paolo]

I didn't want Laszlo when he was appointed for the following reasons and posted as such:

- I had never heard of him, and thought it was time for a manager who knew Scottish football

- I wanted us to bring in Jefferies/Levein/McGhee/Hughes

- when Laszlo was appointed it became clear that the club had misrepresented his record or at least allowed it to happen

- that record is poor, both playing and managerial

- at the first press conference it was clear that he was just the latest member of the committee and nothing had changed.

 

Since then his discipline problem on the touchline, the rotten inflexible tactics and shameful capitulation to Celtic, added to the berating of a young player in public have done nothing to change my mind. Have seen nothing from him to suggest that he should be given time under the committee. I think we could do far better than Laszlo.

 

Why? It has hardly brought us any success in the past.

[leginten]

I didn't want Laszlo when he was appointed for the following reasons and posted as such:

- I had never heard of him, and thought it was time for a manager who knew Scottish football

- I wanted us to bring in Jefferies/Levein/McGhee/Hughes

- when Laszlo was appointed it became clear that the club had misrepresented his record or at least allowed it to happen

- that record is poor, both playing and managerial

- at the first press conference it was clear that he was just the latest member of the committee and nothing had changed.

 

Since then his discipline problem on the touchline, the rotten inflexible tactics and shameful capitulation to Celtic, added to the berating of a young player in public have done nothing to change my mind. Have seen nothing from him to suggest that he should be given time under the committee. I think we could do far better than Laszlo.

 

Very good analysis, as usual. In terms of points gained against lower sides, he has got off to a very decent start. I'm still waiting for the first sign that he knows what to do when we're up against decent opposition, though. Neither his histrionics nor his public utterances have impressed me one little bit.

The Kingston "injury" that's being fed to us is about as convincing as the story that Pressley was being left out against St Mirren a couple of years back because his wife was going into labour (or the other lies you mention). It will appeal to the same audience.

[Jammy T]

The OP quotes somebody he wants to hound out of the club

 

Its like Gordon Brown bringing Mandelson in to his camp

 

OOoooh, the politics. How exciting

[leginten]

The OP quotes somebody he wants to hound out of the club

Its like Gordon Brown bringing Mandelson in to his camp

 

OOoooh, the politics. How exciting

 

 

Any port in a storm.

[4marsbars]

We're fourth in the league without having played especially well.

 

It's ridiculous how fans continually call for managers to be sacked.

 

Last week at this time Hibs were fourth (?) - now their fans are calling for Mixu to go (he must stay by the way). We've also had Dons fans wanting their manager out.

 

I think a 12 team league, though better than 10, is still crazy because it makes average performance look like failure. When we had 18 teams, and Hearts were relatively poor from 1966 onwards, the "feel-good" factor kicked in when you were in the top six, and apart from finishing 4th in 69-70 Hearts were rarely in the top six.

 

Now, if you are 7th or below, that's unacceptable to many.

 

For those who want Csaba to go believing him to be another puppet; you might be right but changing the puppet will change nothing.

 

As for his "indiscipline" in the Aberdeen game, I've never seen anything like that overreaction from the fourth official.

 

"Capitulation" to Celtic; did you hear Levein on the radio on that point? Apparently Strachan had said something about Celtic taking it easy (I missed that part having been at the game) - Levein said that was nonsense. While Hearts performance was nothing special, we did lose only one legitimate goal, and played almost half the game with ten men. Hearts kept plugging away to no great effect but they did not capitulate.

 

In fact, we've now played over 225 minutes without conceding a goal. Give Csaba a chance?

[monkfish1979]

It took until when De Vries to arrive for Levein to eventually build the team he wanted. That took literally one and a half years. Now, maybe I just remember that period more positively but I don't think many were calling for Levein's head too much in that period. Everyone knew it would be a struggle and it was, but we got there in the end.

 

Now, Laszlo's stint so far has been a struggle but really... who didn't think it would be?

 

Word. There was a Graham Spiers article (paragraph 7) in the Times last week that mentioned Uncle Wattie's reshaping of the Huns team and the length of time it's taking. It's been said many times that you can't fix a scheidt team in half a season, and IMO Csaba seems to be doing something right. People calling for him to be sacked are being more than a little bit daft, IMO.