Ban The Word British? WTF

[Guest juvehearts]

From The Scottish Sun

 

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article1920174.ece

 

DISGRACED ex-minister Ron Davies has had another mad moment ? urging a council to scrap the term ?British?.

 

He told staff the word upsets people from Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Asia and China.

Married Davies, 62, now an independent on Caerphilly Council, has drawn up guidelines which say ?many Scots, Welsh and Irish resist being called British?.

The leaflet also claims ?the idea of British implies a false sense of unity?.

Davis quit Labour?s Cabinet in 1998 after being mugged at a London gay haunt and blamed a ?moment of madness?.

But Wales rugby legend Gareth Edwards said: ?I?m proud to be Welsh. But I?m also British and proud to have played for the British Lions.?

The council said the pamphlet was for guidance and ?not an instruction to staff?.

 

 

You Couldn't mke this sheet up.

 

ffs we live in britian, our passports say british citizen.

 

what next!

[Boris]

Calm down dear.

 

 

It's just one druid's thoughts...

[The Brow]

Ron Davies comes across as a complete ****. Has he seriously got nothing better to do? He said it's as offensive to Scots, Irish and the Welsh as the term '*****' is to black folk. I think he suggested we should be called Scottish British or some bollocks.

 

I think he should go back to searching for badgers late night in gay cruising spots near Bath......

[Jamdub]

I am 100% Scottish, no need to be labelled a Brit as far as I am concerned.

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What a trumpet:mad:

[The Brow]

I am 100% Scottish, no need to be labelled a Brit as far as I am concerned.

 

But would it offend you if i referred to you as British? As Mr Badger Hunter is suggesting.

[I P Knightley]

From The Scottish Sun

 

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article1920174.ece

 

DISGRACED ex-minister Ron Davies has had another mad moment ? urging a council to scrap the term ?British?.

 

He told staff the word upsets people from Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Asia and China.

Married Davies, 62, now an independent on Caerphilly Council, has drawn up guidelines which say ?many Scots, Welsh and Irish resist being called British?.

 

 

You Couldn't mke this sheet up.

 

ffs we live in britian, our passports say british citizen.

 

what next!

 

Class bit of reporting there. They only ever highlight the marital status if they want to remind us of some sub-text.

 

 

I had it confirmed by a bloke who worked with Davies at the time of the gay cruising stories that he is as much of a stroker as he comes across in this non-story.

[Era Macaroons]

From The Scottish Sun

 

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article1920174.ece

 

DISGRACED ex-minister Ron Davies has had another mad moment ? urging a council to scrap the term ?British?.

 

He told staff the word upsets people from Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Asia and China.

Married Davies, 62, now an independent on Caerphilly Council, has drawn up guidelines which say ?many Scots, Welsh and Irish resist being called British?.

The leaflet also claims ?the idea of British implies a false sense of unity?.

Davis quit Labour?s Cabinet in 1998 after being mugged at a London gay haunt and blamed a ?moment of madness?.

But Wales rugby legend Gareth Edwards said: ?I?m proud to be Welsh. But I?m also British and proud to have played for the British Lions.?

The council said the pamphlet was for guidance and ?not an instruction to staff?.

 

 

You Couldn't mke this sheet up.

 

ffs we live in britian, our passports say british citizen.

 

what next!

 

|I often wonder how these complete loonies get anywhere in their careers in the first place.

[Era Macaroons]

do they have a casting couch in politics?

 

[Era Macaroons]

that reminds me.....Boris I'll pop round on thursday to remove that item from under your wifes bed!

[jambovambo]

I would happily ban the abbreviation "Brit" - makes my skin crawl.

[Jamdub]

But would it offend you if i referred to you as British? As Mr Badger Hunter is suggesting.

 

You have no need to refer to me as British, I am Scottish born and bred.

[Victorian]

davies is badly wrong. it isn't the term british that upsets folk, it's the ever-increasing americanisation of english people referring to britian / british things as england / english.

 

that really burns me at least.

[The Brow]

You have no need to refer to me as British, I am Scottish born and bred.

 

Fair doos. I fail to see whats so wrong about it but each to their own.

[ToadKiller Dog]

Ron Davis doesnt go far enough ,he should change the word British and in its place use "fluffy pink cloud dwellers" thats what i would campaign for if i was a Ron Davis.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

You have no need to refer to me as British, I am Scottish born and bred.

 

What does it say on your passport?

[bigwull22]

You have no need to refer to me as British, I am Scottish born and bred.

 

I thought you lot were all cleared out in the 1700's.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

 

[chimpos]

 

 

 

mmmmmmm chip pits

[ToadKiller Dog]

What does it say on your passport?

 

Surely you dont define your whole person, history and culture by some wee book ,In the time before officialdom invented the need for passports how did people define themselves ?

Nations states and borders have a habit of changing over time, who knows maybe Ron Davisis plan will start a movement and 200 years down the road our ancestors will all be citizens of Ron?.

[Patrick Bateman]

I suspect more English people consider themselves "English only" than Unionists are comfortable with.

 

The Union's terminal and should be put down.

[bigwull22]

Surely you dont define your whole person, history and culture by some wee book ,In the time before officialdom invented the need for passports how did people define themselves ?

Nations states and borders have a habit of changing over time, who knows maybe Ron Davisis plan will start a movement and 200 years down the road our ancestors will all be citizens of Ron?.

 

Yip and Edinburgh was part of Northumbria and not scottish until 954 ad

[Makween]

This makes me very, very angry He is a bigot.

[Victorian]

I suspect more English people consider themselves "English only" than Unionists are comfortable with.

 

The Union's terminal and should be put down.

think that's true. possibly because of an awful lot of misconceptions about how the scottish budget is funded, not helped by a lot of misinformation that is bandied about.

 

some of them think we don't pay the same income tax and vat as them.

[Patrick Bateman]

This makes me very, very angry He is a bigot.

 

What about those rhabid English nationalists? Are they bhigots too?

[Bindy Badgy]

davies is badly wrong. it isn't the term british that upsets folk, it's the ever-increasing americanisation of english people referring to britian / british things as england / english.

 

that really burns me at least.

 

I'm over in Oz backpacking at the moment.

 

I was wandering around Sydney with a few people from the hostel I was staying in. As we walked past a shop that specialised in selling British food I said "I wonder if they have Irn-Bru". One of the English people in the group said "it's a British shop not a Scottish shop". He wasn't joking and yes they did have Irn-Bru.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

Surely you dont define your whole person, history and culture by some wee book ,In the time before officialdom invented the need for passports how did people define themselves ?

Nations states and borders have a habit of changing over time, who knows maybe Ron Davisis plan will start a movement and 200 years down the road our ancestors will all be citizens of Ron?.

 

So, British then.

 

Thanks

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

I suspect more English people consider themselves "English only" than Unionists are comfortable with.

 

The Union's terminal and should be put down.

 

I suspect everyone in Ireland eats only Lucky Charms, doenst make it so.

[JamboBen]

I wonder what all those Scottish Regimental soldiers fighting for their lives in Iraq and Afghanastan think of their nationalty.

 

Plum

[grumpyjambo]

What does it say on your passport?

 

My passport says that I am a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland.

 

What people forget is that there is no such country as "Great Britian" as it is a collective word for three country's that are "united". We therefore live in the collection of country's called Great Britian and governed by the UK Government but our nationality is either English, Scottish or Welsh depending on various factors.

[IronJambo]

davies is badly wrong. it isn't the term british that upsets folk, it's the ever-increasing americanisation of english people referring to britian / british things as england / english.

 

that really burns me at least.

 

i agree completely. its more a misunderstanding of the union thats to blame though than "americanisation" i'd say. the japanese really don't understand it either. no matter how its put to them, britain is england.

 

maybe if Scot's embraced the term more britain could be britain instead of england?

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

My passport says that I am a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland.

 

What people forget is that there is no such country as "Great Britian" as it is a collective word for three country's that are "united". We therefore live in the collection of country's called Great Britian and governed by the UK Government but our nationality is either English, Scottish or Welsh depending on various factors.

 

 

What does it state as your Nationality? British?

[alwaysthereinspirit]

do they have a casting couch in politics?

 

 

Yeahhh baby. Shagadelic.

[Makween]

What about those rhabid English nationalists? Are they bhigots too?

 

Not sure why you're using the letter h in places where it shouldn't be, maybe you could explain.

 

If they find the word "British" offensive, then yes. They are. Does that answer your question, kiddo? By the way, I find the sneering contempt for "office workers" in your signature quite distasteful. We don't all live in your little Dickensian bubble of charm, you know.

[Patrick Bateman]

Not sure why you're using the letter h in places where it shouldn't be, maybe you could explain.

 

I have a chronic learning difficulty where I unnecessarily add the letter h at inappropriate times. It's something I'm a little sensitive about and I'd rather you didn't mock me for it

 

If they find the word "British" offensive, then yes. They are. Does that answer your question, kiddo? By the way,

 

How does a distaste for the word British equate to bigotry? Is it a form of distaste that manifests itself in prejudice? Seems like a rather misplaced understanding of the word.

 

By the way, I find the sneering contempt for "office workers" in your signature quite distasteful. We don't all live in your little Dickensian bubble of charm, you know.

 

I'm not really sure you understand my signature.

[Guest juvehearts]

What does it state as your Nationality? British?

 

 

On any passoprt of the United Kindom & Nothern Ireland.

[The Brow]

I'm not really sure you understand my signature.

 

I like your sig, makes me chuckle.

 

British, scottish, whatever. Cant believe people get so worked up about it. Does it make ANY difference in peoples lives? Nope. Its petty.

[Victorian]

i agree completely. its more a misunderstanding of the union thats to blame though than "americanisation" i'd say. the japanese really don't understand it either. no matter how its put to them, britain is england.

 

maybe if Scot's embraced the term more britain could be britain instead of england?

when americans, japanese or any other nationalities confuse england for britian, there's no real problem because as you say, they either don't understand the difference or it's something they are simply conditioned to say.

 

i think i have noticed a significant increase of english people using americanisations in the english language. i truly believe a lot of them now deliberately refer to britian or britishness as england or english. these are people who should really know the difference and therefore i am forced to assume that there is another reason for it.

 

a rise in english nationalism?

a misconception that scotland is no longer in the UK?

they just like the sound of it?

 

who knows?

[Dunks]

Yip and Edinburgh was part of Northumbria and not scottish until 954 ad

 

That's because Scotland never existed at that time. It does now.

[bigwull22]

That's because Scotland never existed at that time. It does now.

 

I'm sure it was there, you mean scotland rose out of the water just over 1000years ago? England didn't exist at that time either going by your logic

[Makween]

I have a chronic learning difficulty where I unnecessarily add the letter h at inappropriate times. It's something I'm a little sensitive about and I'd rather you didn't mock me for it

 

Okay, sorry.

 

How does a distaste for the word British equate to bigotry? Is it a form of distaste that manifests itself in prejudice? Seems like a rather misplaced understanding of the word.

 

There's nothing intrinsically offensive in the word. If people have such a distaste for the concept of Britishness (quite a bigoted way to feel in itself, in my opinion) that the very word offends them, I find that worryingly narrow minded.

 

I'm not really sure you understand my signature.

 

Unless you can explain otherwise (and let's face it, you're a regular Stephen Fry), it seems to be suggesting that office workers can't have any sense of self fulfillment or identity?

[davemclaren]

Eh, who cares?

 

Surely, in a liberal democracy, you can consider yourself to be what you like?

 

Or is that difficult?

[southlondonjambo]

English - not British - thank you very much.

 

mod delete

[Sherlock]

English - not British - thank you very much.

 

mod delete

 

Are you really still trying to get folk to bite with your racist pish?

 

Can you not just go back to St George is very, very cross and whinge and moan about us there.

 

No-one is interested in your trolling here.

[MacDonald Jardine]

Eh, who cares?

 

Surely, in a liberal democracy, you can consider yourself to be what you like?

 

Or is that difficult?

 

Where's the democracy in an organisation banning a term?

[EIEIO]

British Nationalists living in Scotland used to call it North Britain as in the hotel at the top of the Waverley Steps. Perhaps those who feel more British than Scottish should re-adopt the term? I am Scottish.