djg001 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 and Kingston back... could we have the first Lith free XI for 4 years? ...or will a good player have to be shunted after the fax comes in? Personally I think Miko should go up front with Nade - sacrificing a holding midfield player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Balogh Neilson-Karipidis-Berra-Wallace Kingston-Jonsson-Mrowiec-Aguiar-Driver Nade Stewart chucked it yesterday and should be dropped. But we are so short of decent midfield/front options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 and Kingston back... could we have the first Lith free XI for 4 years? ...or will a good player have to be shunted after the fax comes in? Personally I think Miko should go up front with Nade - sacrificing a holding midfield player For me what will be interesting is if Larry gets back in, there's no question he should be but as you point out will Vlad send out a team without any of his countrymen?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I couldn't care less. I would like a team that was rubbish-free, ie, our best possible XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footieman Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 could we have the first Lith free XI for 4 years? 4 Years? I think you might have your facts wrong there.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 BaloghNeilson-Karipidis-Berra-Wallace Kingston-Jonsson-Mrowiec-Aguiar-Driver Nade Stewart chucked it yesterday and should be dropped. But we are so short of decent midfield/front options. Two of them are still out injured / recovering mate ------------Balogh-------------- Jonsson Karipidis Berra Wallace Miko Stewart Ruben Bruno Driver -------------Nade-------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Two of them are still out injured / recovering mate ------------Balogh-------------- Jonsson Karipidis Berra Wallace Miko Stewart Ruben Bruno Driver -------------Nade-------------- I'd play that team but with Larry instead of Miko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Main thing is we'll get a Zaliuklueless free team. About bloody time. Lets hope they the SFA throw the book at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Main thing is we'll get a Zaliuklueless free team. About bloody time. Lets hope they the SFA throw the book at him. We can only hope JR. More worryingly for me is I am starting to doubt Shabba, he keeps playing Bombscare, claims Karapidis as "find of the season", Mole still in the squad and appears to be unable to change his system where required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Personally I think Miko should just go .................. out of the club for good. and Kingston back... could we have the first Lith free XI for 4 years? ...or will a good player have to be shunted after the fax comes in? Personally I think Miko should go up front with Nade - sacrificing a holding midfield player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Personally I think Miko should just go .................. out of the club for good. Not until we get someone better, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 A 12 year old girl would make more impact than that fairy. Not until we get someone better, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 A 12 year old girl would make more impact than that fairy. So what about his winning goals v Motherwell and ICT? I take it you never cheered them? Has Chesney contributed even 1% of what Miko has this season yet you seem to pick on Miko. What's that all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Personally I think Miko should just go .................. out of the club for good. Not until we get someone better, no way. A winger who doesn't hit the first defender with the majority of his crosses would be great. Miko will have been here 4 years in January and I find that amazing. Miko/Chesney/No.29/Zaliukas and No.16 all need to GTF. VR's boys just ain't doing the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 and Kingston back... could we have the first Lith free XI for 4 years? ...or will a good player have to be shunted after the fax comes in? Personally I think Miko should go up front with Nade - sacrificing a holding midfield player The club will appeal the automatic suspension dished out to Zali and when the GFA look at the incident they will rescind the red card therefore allowing Zali to play in the coming games. Persecuting and hindering our progress again. Zali is an accident that frequently happens iam afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 A winger who doesn't hit the first defender with the majority of his crosses would be great. Miko will have been here 4 years in January and I find that amazing. Miko/Chesney/No.29/Zaliukas and No.16 all need to GTF. VR's boys just ain't doing the business. Right, not disagreeing with you, just making the point that getting rid of Miko before we have someone better would be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanov Stole My Pension Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Two of them are still out injured / recovering mate ------------Balogh-------------- Jonsson Karipidis Berra Wallace Miko Stewart Ruben Bruno Driver -------------Nade-------------- That would be exactly my team as well. A team like that should be capable of destroying St Midden at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Spot on. The damning fact is the lack of passion the 5 players you've mentioned show, thay make no effort to compensate for their complete lack of footballing ability. A winger who doesn't hit the first defender with the majority of his crosses would be great. Miko will have been here 4 years in January and I find that amazing. Miko/Chesney/No.29/Zaliukas and No.16 all need to GTF. VR's boys just ain't doing the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Right, not disagreeing with you, just making the point that getting rid of Miko before we have someone better would be stupid. The Moles, Mikos, Chesnies, Shammies and Bombscares of our squad are hindering the progress of any decent lads coming through our youth teams. The aforementioned have had more than enough chances and are simply not good enough and would struggle to make any other spl side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Spot on. The damning fact is the lack of passion the 5 players you've mentioned show, thay make no effort to compensate for their complete lack of footballing ability. How can you say that Miko has no passion for Hearts? Apart from Stewart, he's about our most passionate player. The other 3 Lithuanians are poor and i'd probably show them the door but I have no idea who no.16 is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 How can you say that Miko has no passion for Hearts? Apart from Stewart, he's about our most passionate player. Whilst I agree with you, the fact that Miko and Stewart are 2 of our most passionate players is a damning indictment of the state of our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Whilst I agree with you, the fact that Miko and Stewart are our most passionate players, is a damning indictment of the state of our squad. We have a ****-poor squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Because he hides in most games, you get the odd flash of genius but he always flatters to decieve & after 4 years that just isnt enough. No 16 is the Polish nonentity from Kaunas. How can you say that Miko has no passion for Hearts? Apart from Stewart, he's about our most passionate player. The other 3 Lithuanians are poor and i'd probably show them the door but I have no idea who no.16 is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Two of them are still out injured / recovering mate ------------Balogh-------------- Jonsson Karipidis Berra Wallace Miko Stewart Ruben Bruno Driver -------------Nade-------------- Agree with the defence but i would go for: Balogh Jonsson Karipidis Berra Wallace Kingston Ruben Bruno Driver Nade Glen Would drop Stewart for yesterdays performance. Basic 4-4-2 needs to be adopted NOW. Glen deserves a chance, thought he looked an excellent prospect last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupar Jambo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Agree with the defence but i would go for: Balogh Jonsson Karipidis Berra Wallace Kingston Ruben Bruno Driver Nade Glen Would drop Stewart for yesterdays performance. Basic 4-4-2 needs to be adopted NOW. Glen deserves a chance, thought he looked an excellent prospect last season. If you believe Stewart should be dropped for his performance yesterday then every one you mention should be dropped for their recent efforts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Because he hides in most games, you get the odd flash of genius but he always flatters to decieve & after 4 years that just isnt enough.No 16 is the Polish nonentity from Kaunas. Did you see the game yesterday? Miko was by far our best player when he came on. He went into tackles, he was up for headers and he took ownership of the ball and had a go at them - if only he wasnt having to link up with Moley!! (sorry, dont like to have a go at players and the young guy looked so short of confidence i actually felt sorry for him) Opposition managers wee Miko cos they know he's dangerous. I know this for a fact cos i was with some yesterday. I dream of a team full of players with the commitment of Saulius As for Mrowiec. How dare he be injured! Back to Krakow with you, Johnny Foreigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Right, not disagreeing with you, just making the point that getting rid of Miko before we have someone better would be stupid. If we don't have a RW/RM ready to step up to the First Team from the Youth Team John Murray, the Youth Coaches and any local Scouts we have should be sacked. IIRC, I think we'd have to go back as far Robert Sloan to find a player who plays in that position who was promoted from within. That is a disgrace. 4 years with no Youth Player challenging for a certain position is not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 How about this.... _________Balogh_________ Johnsson Kari Berra Wallace Larry Aguiar Stewart Miko _______Nade Driver______ Back to 442. I still think the 451/433 can be very attacking and effective especially if we control the game like against Hibs, but having seen my first live game of the season yesterday, it doesnt suit big Nade up there alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Did you see the game yesterday? Miko was by far our best player when he came on. He went into tackles, he was up for headers and he took ownership of the ball and had a go at them - if only he wasnt having to link up with Moley!! (sorry, dont like to have a go at players and the young guy looked so short of confidence i actually felt sorry for him) Opposition managers wee Miko cos they know he's dangerous. I know this for a fact cos i was with some yesterday. I dream of a team full of players with the commitment of Saulius As for Mrowiec. How dare he be injured! Back to Krakow with you, Johnny Foreigner Vladimir is that you ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 If we don't have a RW/RM ready to step up to the First Team from the Youth Team John Murray, the Youth Coaches and any local Scouts we have should be sacked. IIRC, I think we'd have to go back as far Robert Sloan to find a player who plays in that position who was promoted from within. That is a disgrace. 4 years with no Youth Player challenging for a certain position is not good enough. I think we do have a bit of promise there but someone else will tell you more than i can. I dont see Csaba promoting anyone from youth at the momentthough and i kinda agree with him. Our team lacks so much experience at the moment. We have Larry and Miko at RM, Im happy with that. Arguably our 2 best players so i think RM is a non-issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 . Miko/Chesney/No.29/Zaliukas and No.16 all need to GTF. . Just them? In another thread you said we need a whole new team so why highlight only them in this thread? What about Mole/Berra/Driver/Stewart/Kingston/Ruben etc etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Did you see the game yesterday? Miko was by far our best player when he came on. He went into tackles, he was up for headers and he took ownership of the ball and had a go at them - if only he wasnt having to link up with Moley!! (sorry, dont like to have a go at players and the young guy looked so short of confidence i actually felt sorry for him) Opposition managers wee Miko cos they know he's dangerous. I know this for a fact cos i was with some yesterday. I dream of a team full of players with the commitment of Saulius As for Mrowiec. How dare he be injured! Back to Krakow with you, Johnny Foreigner Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you sir " R AVIN A LAFF " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Vladimir is that you ?? Genuinely mate (loose term), i thought Miko was good yesterday and his problem was he had noone to link with. Blinkers off please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vanderlay Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 and Kingston back... could we have the first Lith free XI for 4 years? ...or will a good player have to be shunted after the fax comes in? Personally I think Miko should go up front with Nade - sacrificing a holding midfield player What will the "Liths" do when they're not in the team, presumably having gotten to "F"? All day poker round at big Zal's place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Just them? In another thread you said we need a whole new team so why highlight only them in this thread? What about Mole/Berra/Driver/Stewart/Kingston/Ruben etc etc? I picked them on this thread because of the horrible FBK Kaunas link. And I stick by what I said during the summer and what I said earlier : We need a whole new team. VR and his cronies have built a squad full of some real dung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Genuinely mate (loose term), i thought Miko was good yesterday and his problem was he had noone to link with. Blinkers off please Listen I was at the game with some SPL managers yesterday and all were saying Miko is a very dangerous player and he did very well yesterday which I had already been thinking. Driver was poor yesterday - didnt look fit for me - be back to form next week. But if he had come on and made the positive impact Miko atleast tried to create, people would be saying how important he is to us dont want that to sound anti-Driver, cos we do need him and i think he's a great wee player. Just using him as a comparison just quoted myself there - hungover mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Genuinely mate (loose term), i thought Miko was good yesterday and his problem was he had noone to link with. Blinkers off please It wouldn't have mattered if Torres was up front for us yesterday..... Miko cannot cross a ball, infact none of our wingers can cross a ball. Miko must have hit Mark Wilson a dozen times yesterday when attempting to put a ball in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Listen I was at the game with some SPL managers yesterday and all were saying Miko is a very dangerous player and he did very well yesterday which I had already been thinking. Driver was poor yesterday - didnt look fit for me - be back to form next week. But if he had come on and made the positive impact Miko atleast tried to create, people would be saying how important he is to us dont want that to sound anti-Driver, cos we do need him and i think he's a great wee player. Just using him as a comparison just quoted myself there - hungover mistake! Then tell them to make us an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabyarsebiscuit Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 and Kingston back... could we have the first Lith free XI for 4 years? ...or will a good player have to be shunted after the fax comes in? Personally I think Miko should go up front with Nade - sacrificing a holding midfield player Karipidis will move back to partner Berra. Aguiar will be played in a more withdrawn role in midfield. Ksanavicius in the hole. Courtesy of the fax machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 You are either a user of hard drugs or a 12 year old girl. Did you see the game yesterday? Miko was by far our best player when he came on. He went into tackles, he was up for headers and he took ownership of the ball and had a go at them - if only he wasnt having to link up with Moley!! (sorry, dont like to have a go at players and the young guy looked so short of confidence i actually felt sorry for him) Opposition managers wee Miko cos they know he's dangerous. I know this for a fact cos i was with some yesterday. I dream of a team full of players with the commitment of Saulius As for Mrowiec. How dare he be injured! Back to Krakow with you, Johnny Foreigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Genuinely mate (loose term), i thought Miko was good yesterday and his problem was he had noone to link with. Blinkers off please That was the general feeling in the boozer I was in. Hearts, Rangers and Celtic fans with that opinion. He was the only one showing the desired sharpness and hunger to get on the ball, albeit his crossing was not the best. Some Hearts fans are blinkered when it comes to Miko........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 You are either a user of hard drugs or a 12 year old girl. why does it have to be 'or'..?? I think Miko rocks. Some people dont like him cos he's Lithuanian. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I dont like him because he is bereft of any footballing talent & is a gutless little scrote. why does it have to be 'or'..?? I think Miko rocks. Some people dont like him cos he's Lithuanian. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I dont like him because he is bereft of any footballing talent & is a gutless little scrote. sure he speaks highly of you! He came to the club as a young guy, has been through a lot with us and has come out the other end a good player. Good on him. If you are that blinkered, there's no point debating None of our wingers can cross a ball, but i'd be willing to bet that will improve if and when Tullberg plays. It's so much easier to cross a ball to a target cos if you've nothing to aim for there's less commitment to it and thats when you hit the first man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 How has he "come out the other end a good player" if anything he played his best football at the start of his Hearts career, its been downhill at an alarming rate ever since. You've just admited that he cant cross a ball !! A winger that cant cross a ball!!! In other words he's p1sh. sure he speaks highly of you! He came to the club as a young guy, has been through a lot with us and has come out the other end a good player. Good on him. If you are that blinkered, there's no point debating None of our wingers can cross a ball, but i'd be willing to bet that will improve if and when Tullberg plays. It's so much easier to cross a ball to a target cos if you've nothing to aim for there's less commitment to it and thats when you hit the first man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 How has he "come out the other end a good player" if anything he played his best football at the start of his Hearts career, its been downhill at an alarming rate ever since.You've just admited that he cant cross a ball !! A winger that cant cross a ball!!! In other words he's p1sh. I admitted he cant cross a ball? Can you read? I said, with a centre forward to aim at, the crossing will improve. Ask any pro coach. Did Neil McCann always produce a killer ball? Did Allan Johnstone? Did wee JC? Naw, cos they are wingers and to be honest, crossing a good ball on the run is one of the toughest skills in football, which is why it is an inconsistent art. Miko has won us 2 games this season and injected a bit of life into us yesterday. Discussion over, you dont like him, i do. I like black, you like white, i like hot, you like cold, i like girls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 None of our wingers can cross a ball, but i'd be willing to bet that will improve if and when Tullberg plays. It's so much easier to cross a ball to a target cos if you've nothing to aim for there's less commitment to it and thats when you hit the first man I admitted he cant cross a ball? Can you read? I said, with a centre forward to aim at, the crossing will improve. Ask any pro coach. If a winger cannot cross a ball ie. Miko it doesn't matter who is at CF as the cross will not get near him regardless. More often than not it will hit the fullbacks legs. We've played with Jankauskas, Bednar, Pospisil and Velicka and Miko still couldn't reach them with a cross ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 It wouldn't have mattered if Torres was up front for us yesterday.....Miko cannot cross a ball, infact none of our wingers can cross a ball. Miko must have hit Mark Wilson a dozen times yesterday when attempting to put a ball in the box. Thats scary DH - I was saying the same thing to my brother at the game but replace Torres with Berbatov:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I admitted he cant cross a ball? Can you read? I said, with a centre forward to aim at, the crossing will improve. Ask any pro coach. Did Neil McCann always produce a killer ball? Did Allan Johnstone? Did wee JC? Naw, cos they are wingers and to be honest, crossing a good ball on the run is one of the toughest skills in football, which is why it is an inconsistent art. Miko has won us 2 games this season and injected a bit of life into us yesterday. Discussion over, you dont like him, i do. I like black, you like white, i like hot, you like cold, i like girls... Pretty much agreed with every word you have spoken (typed?) on this thread dude. He gives 100% in every game he plays and loves the Heart of Midlothian. His final ball is, shall we say, inconsistent. However, he injects pace, urgency, and passion into the side. I actually feel he plays better cutting inside anyway. 'Mon the Mikoliunas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Thats scary DH - I was saying the same thing to my brother at the game but replace Torres with Berbatov:p Apparantly though I would matter..... It seems the better the CF is - the better a winger can cross a ball. Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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