Ryan Gosling Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Lopez-leaves-Hearts-with-stand.4643372.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Well seeing as he's apparently an arrogant tosspot who pishes off everyone he meets, this is a good thing, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Lopez-leaves-Hearts-with-stand.4643372.jp What does this mean? A year ago i would be celebrating.... but who is running Hearts now at boardroom level? More cost cutting? Romanov pulling out his men before he goes too? What's your view chris_? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Missing you already, Pedro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboMarc Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Well seeing as he's apparently an arrogant tosspot who pishes off everyone he meets, this is a good thing, no? Depends on who takes over I would guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssss! Massive step for Hearts. Korowhatshisname next please. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 His role at Hearts is expected to be filled by another UBIG employee, who will in turn assume direct responsibility for the stadium redevelopment scheme. Better the devil you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 It's interesting news. Neither devastating not earth-shatteringly brilliant. There's others I'd like to have seen go before Pedro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssss! Massive step for Hearts. Korowhatshisname next please. :) If we could swap 'Imatoly' for a coach that knows the scottish game or another one of Csaba's contacts then i would be celebrating too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Lopez is one of the major factors that players and agents hate HMFC. Good bloody riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny1874 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Role to be filled by another UBIG employee. Possibly Serjegus Fedotovas or Mindaugas Nikolicius ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP1874 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Well well well, didn't see that coming. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Role to be filled by another UBIG employee. Possibly Serjegus Fedotovas or Mindaugas Nikolicius ? to be fair, I would be very happy if Serji fills it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 Role to be filled by another UBIG employee. Possibly Serjegus Fedotovas or Mindaugas Nikolicius ? I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 There are two ways of looking at this. Lopez has generally been Hearts "Mr Fixit" behind the scenes and was given the task of pushing through the redevelopment plans. If he is deemed to have failed by Romanov and is being moved for this reason, then that would be good news - it would demonstrate that Romanov wants to progress matters on the redevelopment. On the negative side, if a "fixer" like Lopez has come up against a brick wall with the council, is there anyone else who can make progress? Maybe we need Peter Mandleson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssss! Massive step for Hearts. Korowhatshisname next please. :) My feelings exactly!!! :) Might go and have a lunchtime pint to celebrate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 There are two ways of looking at this. Lopez has generally been Hearts "Mr Fixit" behind the scenes and was given the task of pushing through the redevelopment plans. If he is deemed to have failed by Romanov and is being moved for this reason, then that would be good news - it would demonstrate that Romanov wants to progress matters on the redevelopment. On the negative side, if a "fixer" like Lopez has come up against a brick wall with the council, is there anyone else who can make progress? Maybe we need Peter Mandleson. Are you serious? The guy is an arrogant to$$pot who has done NOTHING at Tynecastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackaysCentreSpot Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Pedro Lopez seems to have become this hate figure amongst a section of Hearts fans and I really can not figure out why this is the case. The man is employed to do a job and more than likely his superiors expect him to do what they ask. If he does not do this he would then loose his job. If your employer asked you to do your job although it may make you unpopular in some quarters would you tell him to get lost? I have had the pleasure of chatting with him on a few occassions and he has always came across as a pretty sincere honest man. But that is neither here nor there. I think him leaving is not exactly a good thing for Hearts as I think he was an assett to the club but obviously those who employ him think that he is better needed else where. Has anyone else actually spoke to the man in person and if so what was your opinion of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Are you serious? The guy is an arrogant to$$pot who has done NOTHING at Tynecastle. Like I said, he has been involved in "fixing" many issues behind the scenes, it is for that reason he was put in charge of progressing the redevelopment. Being arrogant does not preclude an individual from being is such a position, indeed many would see it as a pre-requisite. It is obvious you don't know what you are talking about, so best you just keep it shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Pedro Lopez seems to have become this hate figure amongst a section of Hearts fans and I really can not figure out why this is the case. The man is employed to do a job and more than likely his superiors expect him to do what they ask. If he does not do this he would then loose his job. If your employer asked you to do your job although it may make you unpopular in some quarters would you tell him to get lost? I have had the pleasure of chatting with him on a few occassions and he has always came across as a pretty sincere honest man. But that is neither here nor there. I think him leaving is not exactly a good thing for Hearts as I think he was an assett to the club but obviously those who employ him think that he is better needed else where. Has anyone else actually spoke to the man in person and if so what was your opinion of him. I judge him on his record. He oversaw the Riccarton 3 fiasco and the denouement of that. He has been sitting on the stadium plans and dealing on and off with the council over that. Result: One planning application and no subsequent progress. He has negotiated player contracts and overpaid them, probably more than the players wildest dreams. In short, if any other CEO/Deputy CEO had this charge record, they would have been hounded out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Like I said, he has been involved in "fixing" many issues behind the scenes, it is for that reason he was put in charge of progressing the redevelopment. Being arrogant does not preclude an individual from being is such a position, indeed many would see it as a pre-requisite. It is obvious you don't know what you are talking about, so best you just keep it shut. Please see my response to Mackay's Centre Spot. Oh, and incidentally, in your first response you mentioned a brick wall within Edinburgh Council. Is this the same council that is estimated to have a 30 million black hole and will be desperate for any kind of deal to fill their coffers, or is it another one in a parallel universe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackaysCentreSpot Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I judge him on his record. He oversaw the Riccarton 3 fiasco and the denouement of that. He has been sitting on the stadium plans and dealing on and off with the council over that. Result: One planning application and no subsequent progress. He has negotiated player contracts and overpaid them, probably more than the players wildest dreams. In short, if any other CEO/Deputy CEO had this charge record, they would have been hounded out the door. I would agree with you so why has he not been. Maybe because he has been doing a good job and regarding the points you have brought up, do you have the actual facts from anyone in authority that he has done as you said or is it just paper talk you have listened to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I would agree with you so why has he not been. Maybe because he has been doing a good job and regarding the points you have brought up, do you have the actual facts from anyone in authority that he has done as you said or is it just paper talk you have listened to. On your first point, would you say Korobochka is doing a good job as well? Lopez is protected because he is in the 'circle of trust'. Secondly, no I wasn't party to the individual negotiations. I used my own judgement based on the available evidence and the outcomes. Should we have left Chris Robinson in situ as well because I'm sure you weren't privy to every event there either. He might have done a "good job" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 On your first point, would you say Korobochka is doing a good job as well? Lopez is protected because he is in the 'circle of trust'. Secondly, no I wasn't party to the individual negotiations. I used my own judgement based on the available evidence and the outcomes. Should we have left Chris Robinson in situ as well because I'm sure you weren't privy to every event there either. He might have done a "good job" too. The bottom line is as I stated previosly i.e. you obviously don't know what you are talking about! You made a silly comment because you thought it was funny to do so, but when challenged it transpires that you have no insight or information other that the gossip that is trudged out ad nauseum on this forum. Your lack of knowledge on the subject of Hearts really is high-lighted by your "should we have left Robinson in situ" comment. This really is the first time that I have heard that Robinson's position was at the behest of the fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackaysCentreSpot Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 On your first point, would you say Korobochka is doing a good job as well? Lopez is protected because he is in the 'circle of trust'. Secondly, no I wasn't party to the individual negotiations. I used my own judgement based on the available evidence and the outcomes. Should we have left Chris Robinson in situ as well because I'm sure you weren't privy to every event there either. He might have done a "good job" too. Korobochka is the Director Of Football at HMFC The job desciption is roughly this. "Director of Football" is a term describing a senior management figure at a football club, most commonly used in Europe. The exact nature of the role is often unclear and causes much debate in the sports media. Dave Bassett described the role as " ..... a buffer. The director of football is answerable to the board but there to assist the manager. He's experienced in football and there to help the board members who don't have that experience." In theory it means that the manager is left to concern himself with the day to day running of the club, the picking of the team, and the decisions about tactics and training. The director meanwhile looks after the budget, and allocates money for transfers and the youth academy. The director is often involved in the selection of the manager, so that the manager knows he has full support from his subordinates. The plus side is that there is an experienced football head watching the scouts, the budget and the academy, allowing the manager to get on with the team. So after reading the description I can not say he is or he is not doing his job as I have no evidence to back up my claim. I assume that you do not think he is and if this is the case do you have good evidence he is not doing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Sounds like a nice wee reshuffle to me. Lopez steps aside, folk can then assume it's because he's 'not getting the job done and Vlad obviously wants it done', new guy put in place, new guy then gets the usual amount of time (as we seem to give every bloody appointment) to bed in, nice wee delay into the new year and Romanov gets some breathing space for doing nothing again with the main stand redevelopment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 The bottom line is as I stated previosly i.e. you obviously don't know what you are talking about! You made a silly comment because you thought it was funny to do so, but when challenged it transpires that you have no insight or information other that the gossip that is trudged out ad nauseum on this forum. Your lack of knowledge on the subject of Hearts really is high-lighted by your "should we have left Robinson in situ" comment. This really is the first time that I have heard that Robinson's position was at the behest of the fans! No, my point is that the argument being made is the lack of "insight" into Lopez's role is reason enough not to criticise him. I'm basing the facts of the outcomes of his role during his time at Tynecastle, coupled with my opinion of him when I have "encountered" him, e.g. in the vicinity of the stadium, as my reasons for welcoming his departure. That I don't like the guy is a bonus on top of the reasons for his leaving. He is a lickspittle placed into a job because he is in a "circle of trust" of Vlad's creation and I welcome his departure. Oh, and you say "gossip" on this forum is my "insight". There is a difference between gossip from "informed sources" and gossip from other people. Critically evaluating the information available allows a more informed opinion to be reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Korobochka is the Director Of Football at HMFC The job desciption is roughly this. "Director of Football" is a term describing a senior management figure at a football club, most commonly used in Europe. The exact nature of the role is often unclear and causes much debate in the sports media. Dave Bassett described the role as " ..... a buffer. The director of football is answerable to the board but there to assist the manager. He's experienced in football and there to help the board members who don't have that experience." In theory it means that the manager is left to concern himself with the day to day running of the club, the picking of the team, and the decisions about tactics and training. The director meanwhile looks after the budget, and allocates money for transfers and the youth academy. The director is often involved in the selection of the manager, so that the manager knows he has full support from his subordinates. The plus side is that there is an experienced football head watching the scouts, the budget and the academy, allowing the manager to get on with the team. So after reading the description I can not say he is or he is not doing his job as I have no evidence to back up my claim. I assume that you do not think he is and if this is the case do you have good evidence he is not doing his job. The part in bold is reason enough (amongst others) to form an opinion as to whether Korobochka is doing a good job. Look at our transfer record since he has occupied this role! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Lopez-leaves-Hearts-with-stand.4643372.jp Lopez? He is away? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Well seeing as he's apparently an arrogant tosspot who pishes off everyone he meets, this is a good thing, no? It may well be a good thing still, but he seemed OK when I briefly met him, though not in a business capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbster Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Lopez-leaves-Hearts-with-stand.4643372.jp Everyone seems to have missed this... "Meanwhile, head coach Csaba Laszlo was warned Hearts' misfiring strikers they risk being sold if they do not start scoring soon. The Hungarian is losing patience with his forwards, who have found the net just four times between them this season." It is worth noting the lack of source and that this is robably journalistic supposition however, how does it work as a concept? If your car wasn't working who would want to buy it? Therefore who would want to buy one of our strikers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Everyone seems to have missed this... "Meanwhile, head coach Csaba Laszlo was warned Hearts' misfiring strikers they risk being sold if they do not start scoring soon. The Hungarian is losing patience with his forwards, who have found the net just four times between them this season." It is worth noting the lack of source and that this is robably journalistic supposition however, how does it work as a concept? If your car wasn't working who would want to buy it? Therefore who would want to buy one of our strikers? Crystal Palace wanted to buy Nade according to reports but couldn't agree a fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 The cull continues : Valdas Ivanuaskas Eduard Malofeev Alex Koslovski Pedro Lopez Who's left ? Anatoli Korobotchup The clock is ticking Anatoli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Has anyone else actually spoke to the man in person and if so what was your opinion of him. Yes. Arrogant tosspot who thinks he's clever enough to pull the wool over peoples eyes would be my description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Is he making way for Russel Brand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 He wont be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 On your first point, would you say Korobochka is doing a good job as well? Lopez is protected because he is in the 'circle of trust'. We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. Repeat after me: We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. Repeat after me: We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Sounds like a nice wee reshuffle to me. Lopez steps aside, folk can then assume it's because he's 'not getting the job done and Vlad obviously wants it done', new guy put in place, new guy then gets the usual amount of time (as we seem to give every bloody appointment) to bed in, nice wee delay into the new year and Romanov gets some breathing space for doing nothing again with the main stand redevelopment. You're being a bit optimistic if you think the new stand is going up antime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 We must all hate Lopez because Romanov likes him. Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 You're being a bit optimistic if you think the new stand is going up antime soon. Stop being so negative. building starts in the summer, and the Tynecastle 2010 project will be be complete by summer of 2011. http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Tynecastle2010Detail/0,,10289~1091729,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpto Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Adios mutha ****a! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Like I said, he has been involved in "fixing" many issues behind the scenes. What precisely did he fix in his time here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 What precisely did he fix in his time here? he fixed the problem with those traitors Hartley, Pressley and Gordon. He got that problem sorted good and proper. And he helped us secure the big money signings of stars like Zaliuakas, Kurskis and Beniuseless. And unlike that failure Anderton, who had a whole 6 months to get the stand built and didn't manage it, Pedro got the stand built during his years at HMFC. You just need to close your eyes and use your imagination a wee bit to see it. oh, and don't forget, he also doubled as a scout. This is the man who brought us Tiago Costa, Fernando Screpis and Mauricio Pinilla. All for the small cost of only a million or two in wages. The more I think about it, the more I think we should erect a statue of this man to thank him for the excellent work he did for HMFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 he fixed the problem with those traitors Hartley, Pressley and Gordon. He got them good and proper. And unlike that failure Anderton, who had a whole 6 months to get the stand built and didn't manage it, Pedro got the stand built. You just need to close your eyes and use your imagination a wee bit to see it. Nah, you don't know what you're talking about. Only Jam Tarts 1874 knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Stop being so negative. building starts in the summer, and the Tynecastle 2010 project will be be complete by summer of 2011. http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Tynecastle2010Detail/0,,10289~1091729,00.html Think you missed out the sarccy smilie. There is no danger this new stand will be getting built any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Never knew so many people on here had dealings with the guy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilenin Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Like I said, he has been involved in "fixing" many issues behind the scenes, it is for that reason he was put in charge of progressing the redevelopment. Being arrogant does not preclude an individual from being is such a position, indeed many would see it as a pre-requisite. It is obvious you don't know what you are talking about, so best you just keep it shut. Aye - like the shambles of his behaviour towards the Riccarton 3, his giving 5 year contracts to total clowns, his scouting of Screpsis and Pinalla, and the fact that he's totally failed to progress the building of the stand? I have to ask - does Romanov work you by strings or by remote control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbster Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Crystal Palace wanted to buy Nade according to reports but couldn't agree a fee? And of the 4 we've got he's the one I would want to keep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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