Rab Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 But you guided Jen as to how she should vote.....right? You know as well as I do that what I say means hee-haw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatfield to sheffield Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Like a lot of people on here, I'm desparate for Obama to win but worried by what the opinion polls say. The Democratic vote always gets overestimated, as this article says http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2008/11/04/danger-exit-polls-ahead/ and if McCain does come sneaking through - it doesn't have to be a real swing for the right to steal the election. If the election is stolen this time - like it was in 2000 - there will be so much despair and anger that I think the Rodney King riots and even the rioting after Martin Luther King was murdered will look like mere sideshows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 what's the deal with ex-pats? do you american based folk get to vote? Just resident. So no vote but they very kindly allow us to pay tax! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Just resident. So no vote but they very kindly allow us to pay tax! Taxation without representation. I believe someone once fought a war over that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Taxation without representation. I believe someone once fought a war over that I was just thinking that after I wrote it. Right, where's me pitchfork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 I was just thinking that after I wrote it. Right, where's me pitchfork? You start on the West Coast, me and Bill Duff will start on the east and we'll meet you in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Jambo Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Obama got my vote first, we were first in line this morning. Quite an historic day, voting for a black man running for president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Watching CNN off and on, lots of people out to vote, problems in New York have been fixed. Watched Obama vote in Chicago, took him ages. Changed days from when I was at the polling stations in Edinburgh for the elections. You went in a box made your X and got out. No talking to anyone and definitely no giving advice to another or looking in their wee box area. Obama is leaning over talking to his wife, their daughters are looking over their shoulders, quite a social outing. I just don't know how I feel. It's not my Country but anyone in another Country that feels the result doesn't affect them is sadly out of the real world. I am not sold on Obama, but then I am not really sold on McCain. He and I are similar ages, I don't think I have hit senility yet, but do know I don't think or react as fast as I did. Memories of old Ronnie falling asleep at Cabinet meetings still haunt me. I don't have any dislike for Sarah Palin but dread something happening to McCain and her falling into the job, but again Biden does not inspire me either. I take Obama to win quite handily, and I am quite satisfied he will finish his first term for sure, no assassination. What happens in 2012 is another question. However the activity towards that should start sometime after Christmas this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 It looks like Obama should win comfortably. A mixed race president would be a bit of a change but nothing else will change. In fact has the U.S not seen something like this before? The 1920's. A Republican government voted in at the start of the decade and re-elected despite various criticisms and scandals because the nation and the world was experiencing very good times. However towards the end of the decade there is a massive economic crash and the government try to solve it by throwing money at the problem. The end result was that the Republicans got bombed out for causing all the world's ills. The fall out from this was world war 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 A Republican government voted in at the start of the decade and re-elected despite various criticisms and scandals because the nation and the world was experiencing very good times. However towards the end of the decade there is a massive economic crash. The end result was that the Republicans got bombed out for causing all the world's ills. The fall out from this was world war 2. Erm, I'm no history expert, but I think some Austrian dude might have had more to do with WW2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Erm, I'm no history expert, but I think some Austrian dude might have had more to do with WW2 Not if you look at the bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Virginia polls close in 5 mins!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 What site are folk watching the results come in? I'm on the BBC at the mo but reckon there will be a better alternative. And can someone explain how the electoral college works in laymans terms. The voters vote for the electors who then vote for their candidates? And the more heavily populated the state the more electors they have? Is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Problems in Virginia. Military ballots arriving late, lack of voting machines and unusable paper ballots. Mainly in poor black neighborhoods in Richmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Problems in Virginia. Military ballots arriving late, lack of voting machines and unusable paper ballots. Mainly in poor black neighborhoods in Richmond Which means...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 What site are folk watching the results come in? I'm on the BBC at the mo but reckon there will be a better alternative. And can someone explain how the electoral college works in laymans terms. The voters vote for the electors who then vote for their candidates? And the more heavily populated the state the more electors they have? Is that right? Each state has x number of electoral college votes, based on their population. In theory, whomever wins a state gets that states x votes. First to 270 (1 more than 50% of the total) electoral college votes wins. However, Maine(4 votes) and Nebraska (5 votes) use a form of proportional representation to allocate their votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 john simpson is a legend..fact!! and he looks like attenborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Which means...? 1) Possible legal challenge to the result in Virginia if it's very close (eg Florida 8 years ago) 2) Large numbers of black people unable to cast ballots - most would presumably vote for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 1) Possible legal challenge to the result in Virginia if it's very close (eg Florida 8 years ago)2) Large numbers of black people unable to cast ballots - most would presumably vote for Obama. Ok, kinda what I thought. Conspiracy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 djf http://www.msnbc.com is pretty cool if you're one us pinko commie socialist types that will be the ruin of this great nation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Here in Virginia, someone has been nabbed distributing thousands of leaflets purportedly from the State government saying Democrats shouldn't vote until tomorrow: http://www.wusa9.com/rss/local_article.aspx?storyid=77855 Wonder if it was one of my cousins, they are based in Hampton, when not off serving their country somewhere around the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 1) Possible legal challenge to the result in Virginia if it's very close (eg Florida 8 years ago)2) Large numbers of black people unable to cast ballots - most would presumably vote for Obama. See the news talk about race issue and how people will vote for mccain because obama is black...but there will be alot more people voting for obama because he IS black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 if you're one us pinko commie socialist types that will be the ruin of this great nation! I knew it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 See the news talk about race issue and how people will vote for mccain because obama is black...but there will be alot more people voting for obama because he IS black. Blacks only make up about 12% of the US population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Blacks only make up about 12% of the US population. So theres only 88percent left up for grabs then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I knew it!!! See I'm thinking it wasn't the greatest stretch of the imagination for you there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Blacks only make up about 12% of the US population. So the other 88% won't vote for him? The almost universal level of black support for Obama surely cancels out the intentions of a sizeable number of bubbas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Indiana apparently won by Obama ... 55 - 44 EDIT: To close to call now apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 McCain takes 8 votes from Kentucky. Obama projected to take 3 votes from Vermont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 8-3, 8-3, 8-3, 8-3:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Indiana apparently won by Obama ... 55 - 44 Indiana is one of the States that is in a split timezone, so not all its polling stations have closed yet, only around 50% of the votes have been taken into account so far, suspect it is possibly an early "prediction" only. Kentucky has apparently forecast it will vote McCain, in fact it looks like he has got it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 is it a black college? just look at those in the background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 8-3, 8-3, 8-3, 8-3:rolleyes: GTF MCCAIN SHEEP. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 So the other 88% won't vote for him? The almost universal level of black support for Obama surely cancels out the intentions of a sizeable number of bubbas. I mentioned a segment from the Howard Stern show in another thread where a guy lists McCain's polices as Obama's in Harlem and finds like the majority of the correspondents agree with them when they are presented as Obama's. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg Cringe worthy stuff. He asks some of the interviewees if they have a problem with Sarah Palin being Vice-President if Obama wins No, it seems they do not. Then again the sole McCain supporter proves equally stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 McCain takes 8 votes from Kentucky. Obama projected to take 3 votes from Vermont. And they all fall off their seats in surprise....breaking news...a staggering turnout of 94.3% from all the xtras from the "Hills have Eyes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 How do they get the numbers? Surely theres not only 99 people in Indiana...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 GTF MCCAIN SHEEP. :mad: we shall not, we shall not be moved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 How do they get the numbers? Surely theres not only 99 people in Indiana...? percent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 percent? So whats the 8-3 crack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I think Alastair Stewart is brilliant. Would like a pint with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC-Hearts Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Problems in Virginia. Military ballots arriving late, lack of voting machines and unusable paper ballots. Mainly in poor black neighborhoods in Richmond Great to see nothing ever changes. In 2004, Erin and I were living in Columbus, Ohio for school and we voted near our apartement, which was by the university/student housing/student slums/'arty' areas. And who'd have thunk it? There were hardly any voting machines. Erin stood on line for about three hours. (I gave up after about 25 minutes. I'm a terrible citizen, I know...) It goes without saying that the upscale suburbs, or rural areas around Columbus, had more machines than they could ever need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 So whats the 8-3 crack? each state has a certain amount of "seats" which is based on the population of the state..so california has something like 47 seats because it has a large population and small states only have 3 or 8 etc..so whoever gets the percentage of the vote in that state wins those seats....i think, probably wrong..lol And whoever gets to 270 is the new daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 each state has a certain amount of "seats" which is based on the population of the state..so california has something like 47 seats because it has a large population and small states only have 3 or 8 etc..so whoever gets the percentage of the vote in that state wins those seats....i think, probably wrong..lol And whoever gets to 270 is the new daddy 55! We've got 1 in 7 of the population. Not exactly a swing state this one. Wouldn't be surprised to see Obi win by 20 points....which is round about the same points total we'll have half way through the league program, is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Indiana showing a 5-point lead for McCain with 13% counted. CNN reporting significant shifts to Dems in several Rep districts. Bush won Indiana by 20 points last time out. Virginia showing a comfortable McCain lead, but less than 3% counted and no indication of how many of the votes are from the more D-leaning north of the state. Bush won by 8 points in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 (I gave up after about 25 minutes. I'm a terrible citizen, I know...) Typical "I'm alright Jack" lawyer mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Indiana showing a 5-point lead for McCain with 13% counted. CNN reporting significant shifts to Dems in several Rep districts. Bush won Indiana by 20 points last time out. Virginia showing a comfortable McCain lead, but less than 3% counted and no indication of how many of the votes are from the more D-leaning north of the state. Bush won by 8 points in 2004. North Carolina looks pretty close, but McCain is running away with both South Carolina and Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Thatcher would've romped this election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Is it just me but do early indications not make it look like Obama is nowere near as comfortable to win as people seem to have thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I just laugh at this "hope" that Obama is what the world needs. He's a politician FFS! Yes, it will be significant for a man of mixed race to become President in a country that two generations before was riven by racial strife but if anyone thinks that things will radically alter, just be prepared for the same let-down that Tony Blair engendered in the UK. So, for pure comedy value, I want McCain to win just to see Palin in the White House! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Is it just me but do early indications not make it look like Obama is nowere near as comfortable to win as people seem to have thought? It is just you. What early indications are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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