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But you guided Jen as to how she should vote.....right? ;)

 

You know as well as I do that what I say means hee-haw! :P

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Like a lot of people on here, I'm desparate for Obama to win but worried by what the opinion polls say. The Democratic vote always gets overestimated, as this article says

 

http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2008/11/04/danger-exit-polls-ahead/

 

and if McCain does come sneaking through - it doesn't have to be a real swing for the right to steal the election.

 

If the election is stolen this time - like it was in 2000 - there will be so much despair and anger that I think the Rodney King riots and even the rioting after Martin Luther King was murdered will look like mere sideshows.

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what's the deal with ex-pats? do you american based folk get to vote?

 

Just resident. So no vote but they very kindly allow us to pay tax! :eek:

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Just resident. So no vote but they very kindly allow us to pay tax! :eek:

 

Taxation without representation. I believe someone once fought a war over that :eek:

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Taxation without representation. I believe someone once fought a war over that :eek:

 

I was just thinking that after I wrote it. Right, where's me pitchfork?

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I was just thinking that after I wrote it. Right, where's me pitchfork?

 

You start on the West Coast, me and Bill Duff will start on the east and we'll meet you in the middle :thumb:

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Obama got my vote first, we were first in line this morning.

 

Quite an historic day, voting for a black man running for president.

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Watching CNN off and on, lots of people out to vote, problems in New York have been fixed. Watched Obama vote in Chicago, took him ages. Changed days from when I was at the polling stations in Edinburgh for the elections. You went in a box made your X and got out. No talking to anyone and definitely no giving advice to another or looking in their wee box area. Obama is leaning over talking to his wife, their daughters are looking over their shoulders, quite a social outing.

 

I just don't know how I feel. It's not my Country but anyone in another Country that feels the result doesn't affect them is sadly out of the real world. I am not sold on Obama, but then I am not really sold on McCain. He and I are similar ages, I don't think I have hit senility yet, but do know I don't think or react as fast as I did. Memories of old Ronnie falling asleep at Cabinet meetings still haunt me. I don't have any dislike for Sarah Palin but dread something happening to McCain and her falling into the job, but again Biden does not inspire me either.

 

I take Obama to win quite handily, and I am quite satisfied he will finish his first term for sure, no assassination. What happens in 2012 is another question. However the activity towards that should start sometime after Christmas this year.;)

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It looks like Obama should win comfortably. A mixed race president would be a bit of a change but nothing else will change. In fact has the U.S not seen something like this before? The 1920's.

 

A Republican government voted in at the start of the decade and re-elected despite various criticisms and scandals because the nation and the world was experiencing very good times. However towards the end of the decade there is a massive economic crash and the government try to solve it by throwing money at the problem. The end result was that the Republicans got bombed out for causing all the world's ills.

 

The fall out from this was world war 2.

 

:laugh:

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A Republican government voted in at the start of the decade and re-elected despite various criticisms and scandals because the nation and the world was experiencing very good times. However towards the end of the decade there is a massive economic crash. The end result was that the Republicans got bombed out for causing all the world's ills.

 

The fall out from this was world war 2.

 

:laugh:

 

Erm, I'm no history expert, but I think some Austrian dude might have had more to do with WW2 :cool:

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Erm, I'm no history expert, but I think some Austrian dude might have had more to do with WW2 :cool:
Not if you look at the bigger picture.;)
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What site are folk watching the results come in? I'm on the BBC at the mo but reckon there will be a better alternative.

 

And can someone explain how the electoral college works in laymans terms. The voters vote for the electors who then vote for their candidates? And the more heavily populated the state the more electors they have? Is that right?

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Problems in Virginia. Military ballots arriving late, lack of voting machines and unusable paper ballots.

 

Mainly in poor black neighborhoods in Richmond :(

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Problems in Virginia. Military ballots arriving late, lack of voting machines and unusable paper ballots.

 

Mainly in poor black neighborhoods in Richmond :(

Which means...?

 

:confused:

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What site are folk watching the results come in? I'm on the BBC at the mo but reckon there will be a better alternative.

 

And can someone explain how the electoral college works in laymans terms. The voters vote for the electors who then vote for their candidates? And the more heavily populated the state the more electors they have? Is that right?

 

Each state has x number of electoral college votes, based on their population. In theory, whomever wins a state gets that states x votes.

 

First to 270 (1 more than 50% of the total) electoral college votes wins. However, Maine(4 votes) and Nebraska (5 votes) use a form of proportional representation to allocate their votes.

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Which means...?

 

:confused:

 

1) Possible legal challenge to the result in Virginia if it's very close (eg Florida 8 years ago)

2) Large numbers of black people unable to cast ballots - most would presumably vote for Obama.

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1) Possible legal challenge to the result in Virginia if it's very close (eg Florida 8 years ago)

2) Large numbers of black people unable to cast ballots - most would presumably vote for Obama.

Ok, kinda what I thought.

 

Conspiracy..;)

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portobellojambo1
Here in Virginia, someone has been nabbed distributing thousands of leaflets purportedly from the State government saying Democrats shouldn't vote until tomorrow:

 

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http://www.wusa9.com/rss/local_article.aspx?storyid=77855

 

 

Wonder if it was one of my cousins, they are based in Hampton, when not off serving their country somewhere around the World.

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1) Possible legal challenge to the result in Virginia if it's very close (eg Florida 8 years ago)

2) Large numbers of black people unable to cast ballots - most would presumably vote for Obama.

 

 

See the news talk about race issue and how people will vote for mccain because obama is black...but there will be alot more people voting for obama because he IS black.

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if you're one us pinko commie socialist types that will be the ruin of this great nation!

 

I knew it!!!

 

:P

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See the news talk about race issue and how people will vote for mccain because obama is black...but there will be alot more people voting for obama because he IS black.

 

Blacks only make up about 12% of the US population.

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Snake Plissken
Blacks only make up about 12% of the US population.

 

So the other 88% won't vote for him?

 

The almost universal level of black support for Obama surely cancels out the intentions of a sizeable number of bubbas.

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Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC

Indiana apparently won by Obama ... 55 - 44

 

EDIT: To close to call now apparently.

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Indiana apparently won by Obama ... 55 - 44

 

Indiana is one of the States that is in a split timezone, so not all its polling stations have closed yet, only around 50% of the votes have been taken into account so far, suspect it is possibly an early "prediction" only.

 

Kentucky has apparently forecast it will vote McCain, in fact it looks like he has got it already.

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Snake Plissken
So the other 88% won't vote for him?

 

The almost universal level of black support for Obama surely cancels out the intentions of a sizeable number of bubbas.

 

I mentioned a segment from the Howard Stern show in another thread where a guy lists McCain's polices as Obama's in Harlem and finds like the majority of the correspondents agree with them when they are presented as Obama's.

 

Here it is:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg

 

Cringe worthy stuff.

 

He asks some of the interviewees if they have a problem with Sarah Palin being Vice-President if Obama wins

 

No, it seems they do not.

 

Then again the sole McCain supporter proves equally stupid.

 

;)

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McCain takes 8 votes from Kentucky.

 

Obama projected to take 3 votes from Vermont.

 

And they all fall off their seats in surprise....breaking news...a staggering turnout of 94.3% from all the xtras from the "Hills have Eyes."

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Problems in Virginia. Military ballots arriving late, lack of voting machines and unusable paper ballots.

 

Mainly in poor black neighborhoods in Richmond :(

 

Great to see nothing ever changes. In 2004, Erin and I were living in Columbus, Ohio for school and we voted near our apartement, which was by the university/student housing/student slums/'arty' areas. And who'd have thunk it? There were hardly any voting machines. Erin stood on line for about three hours. (I gave up after about 25 minutes. I'm a terrible citizen, I know...)

 

It goes without saying that the upscale suburbs, or rural areas around Columbus, had more machines than they could ever need.

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So whats the 8-3 crack?

 

each state has a certain amount of "seats" which is based on the population of the state..so california has something like 47 seats because it has a large population and small states only have 3 or 8 etc..so whoever gets the percentage of the vote in that state wins those seats....i think, probably wrong..lol

 

And whoever gets to 270 is the new daddy

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each state has a certain amount of "seats" which is based on the population of the state..so california has something like 47 seats because it has a large population and small states only have 3 or 8 etc..so whoever gets the percentage of the vote in that state wins those seats....i think, probably wrong..lol

 

And whoever gets to 270 is the new daddy

 

55! We've got 1 in 7 of the population. Not exactly a swing state this one.

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see Obi win by 20 points....which is round about the same points total we'll have half way through the league program, is it not? :sad:

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Indiana showing a 5-point lead for McCain with 13% counted. CNN reporting significant shifts to Dems in several Rep districts. Bush won Indiana by 20 points last time out.

 

Virginia showing a comfortable McCain lead, but less than 3% counted and no indication of how many of the votes are from the more D-leaning north of the state. Bush won by 8 points in 2004.

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portobellojambo1
Indiana showing a 5-point lead for McCain with 13% counted. CNN reporting significant shifts to Dems in several Rep districts. Bush won Indiana by 20 points last time out.

 

Virginia showing a comfortable McCain lead, but less than 3% counted and no indication of how many of the votes are from the more D-leaning north of the state. Bush won by 8 points in 2004.

 

North Carolina looks pretty close, but McCain is running away with both South Carolina and Georgia.

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Is it just me but do early indications not make it look like Obama is nowere near as comfortable to win as people seem to have thought?

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Geoff Kilpatrick

I just laugh at this "hope" that Obama is what the world needs. He's a politician FFS! Yes, it will be significant for a man of mixed race to become President in a country that two generations before was riven by racial strife but if anyone thinks that things will radically alter, just be prepared for the same let-down that Tony Blair engendered in the UK.

 

So, for pure comedy value, I want McCain to win just to see Palin in the White House! :)

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Is it just me but do early indications not make it look like Obama is nowere near as comfortable to win as people seem to have thought?

 

It is just you. What early indications are you referring to?

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