Gambo Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HospitalityDetail/0,,10289~1400777,00.html Good idea imo. More clubs should offer this for visiting support. (i've had a few dodgy moments in hospitality at Ibrox and Falkirk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 A far better idea than sticking them in with the home fans, although it cuts down on the chance of lamping 1 of them in the gub:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 A complimentary bar, the buckfast flowing and sellick fans being sneaked past the jambo's, potential recipe for disaster... The poor sales in the Gorgie Suite have brought this on, Rangers fans are also being invited to 'cough' their ?99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 We'll be giving them back the full Roseburn Stand next. We obviously aren't selling the corporate packages to our own fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HospitalityDetail/0,,10289~1400777,00.html Good idea imo. More clubs should offer this for visiting support. (i've had a few dodgy moments in hospitality at Ibrox and Falkirk) Aw no,Im going for my Birthday. If Id wanted to be surrounded by them stuffing their fat faces with chips whilst signing about a tatty famine id have went to The International Bar. Half their support will refuse to take the soup anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 We'll be giving them back the full Roseburn Stand next. We obviously aren't selling the corporate packages to our own fans. Yep, the glory hunters of three years ago have well and truely vanished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Aw no,Im going for my Birthday.If Id wanted to be surrounded by them stuffing their fat faces with chips whilst signing about a tatty famine id have went to The International Bar. Half their support will refuse to take the soup anyway You are one sad individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Yep, the glory hunters of three years ago have well and truely vanished. Yep. And not at all unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Yep, the glory hunters of three years ago have well and truely vanished. More to do with the current climate and freezes on corporate entertainment budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 You are one sad individual. He is also good at fishing....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 More to do with the current climate and freezes on corporate entertainment budget Certainly explains some of this - but the empty seats in the stands speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 He is also good at fishing....... Stop spoiling my fun. Half My guest list reads like Timsdens guide to Edinburgh society,Ive even got somebody from their head office in York Place coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dookychook Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 It's a smart move by hearts, now that we are selling away tickets to OF fans why not cash in on hospitality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 He is also good at fishing....... Friday fishing? Doubt it...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Friday fishing? Doubt it...................... Apparantly Hearts have contacted Celtic to advise that on the fish course menu,The Scottish migratory fish will be replaced by Sole Prompting a chorus of "The Salmons now Dover why dont you go home"l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makateer Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 We'll be giving them back the full Roseburn Stand next. We obviously aren't selling the corporate packages to our own fans. Have you seen section A this season? A massive gap where the hospitality suits used to be. The credit crunch/poor performances have hit that side of the business badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 We'll be giving them back the full Roseburn Stand next. We obviously aren't selling the corporate packages to our own fans. I was wondering how long it would take for one of the usual suspects to put a negative slant on it. Based on supposition of course. But don't let that get in the way of creating something negative out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Have you seen section A this season? A massive gap where the hospitality suits used to be. The credit crunch/poor performances have hit that side of the business badly. IIRC the Gorgie Suite was struggling last season also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I was wondering how long it would take for one of the usual suspects to put a negative slant on it. Based on supposition of course. But don't let that get in the way of creating something negative out of it. Is there a positive slant on us having to sell these corporate packages to Celtic fans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 ...Hearts will pocket the profits, so I don't see why this is a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 :rofl::rofl: Apparantly Hearts have contacted Celtic to advise that on the fish course menu,The Scottish migratory fish will be replaced by SolePrompting a chorus of "The Salmons now Dover why dont you go home"l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Is there a positive slant on us having to sell these corporate packages to Celtic fans ? The club trying to make some cash? Sounds positive to me. By your logic trying to make cash out of the opposition means we are struggling (with no real proof). Therefore ideally, we should NOT be trying to make money out of the opposition, to prove we are financially well off? No club will EVER be in this position where it decides to stop trying to make money. Therefore this is not a negative story, its just the club announcing a new move to try and make MORE money. Thats a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe.gausden Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Apparantly Hearts have contacted Celtic to advise that on the fish course menu,The Scottish migratory fish will be replaced by SolePrompting a chorus of "The Salmons now Dover why dont you go home"l :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 The only problem that I can see is keeping these people separated from our own supporters. I had the "privilege" of attending Celtic Park (incognito) a few seasons ago on a Corporate package arranged by a business contact of mine and I would have to say that a fair few of the people I saw that day were simply vermin in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Is there a positive slant on us having to sell these corporate packages to Celtic fans ? This is market driven and little to do with Hearts. However I would have tried to sell reduced packages to Hearts fans first. Bear in mind the game will most likely be moved to a Sunday which makes it les attractive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 This is market driven and little to do with Hearts.However I would have tried to sell reduced packages to Hearts fans first. Bear in mind the game will most likely be moved to a Sunday which makes it les attractive The game is being played on Sunday 2 November CK. I tend to agree with you, I would have preferred if reduced cost packages had been offered to try and attract Hearts fans. However I understand the business aspect of it, money is money, no matter whose pocket it is coming out of. What irks me is the use of the words Celtic and hospitality in the same sentence, it sticks in the throat having to be hospitable to that bunch of low life s h y t e bags. If it had been advertised as a "soup kitchen for the Plastic Paddys" it would have been much more acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Apparantly Hearts have contacted Celtic to advise that on the fish course menu,The Scottish migratory fish will be replaced by SolePrompting a chorus of "The Salmons now Dover why dont you go home"l I'll give you that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 The club trying to make some cash? Sounds positive to me. By your logic trying to make cash out of the opposition means we are struggling (with no real proof). Therefore ideally, we should NOT be trying to make money out of the opposition, to prove we are financially well off? No club will EVER be in this position where it decides to stop trying to make money. Therefore this is not a negative story, its just the club announcing a new move to try and make MORE money. Thats a good thing. If we weren't struggling to sell the packages to Hearts fans then it's safe to assume this deal would never have been offered. Having to sell corporate packages, normally aimed at Hearts fans, to oppostition fans is not a good thing. No matter how you try and dress it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 This is market driven and little to do with Hearts.However I would have tried to sell reduced packages to Hearts fans first. Bear in mind the game will most likely be moved to a Sunday which makes it les attractive As I said earlier I'm pretty sure the Gorgie Suite struggled on many occassions last Season to sell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 If we weren't struggling to sell the packages to Hearts fans then it's safe to assume this deal would never have been offered. Having to sell corporate packages, normally aimed at Hearts fans, to oppostition fans is not a good thing. No matter how you try and dress it up. If the opposition fans were getting offered something at the expense of Hearts fans, i might agree with you. Once again it seems the club is suggesting something low cost that might make the club some cash, a cheap added extra, nothing more, but a few people can only see it as a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 If the opposition fans were getting offered something at the expense of Hearts fans, i might agree with you. Once again it seems the club is suggesting something low cost that might make the club some cash, a cheap added extra, nothing more, but a few people can only see it as a bad thing. It's not a bad thing them trying to make money. But it's certainly a bad thing that we cannot sell these packages to our own. It coincides with a drop in attendences also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 we should be putting our prices up full stop to 99 quid Let this filth come to our wonderful city A Bigot Tax so to speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairdin Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 The club are going to struggle to sell hospitality packages to the 'hardcore' home support though. Some hardcore fans maybe treat themselves to a corporate day once in a while, maybe once a season at the most. We don't have a huge hardcore support to match the old firm and on that basis it won't take long to exhaust that market. Surely the more successful Hearts are on the pitch, the more corporate hospitality will sell. These customers are not necessairly Hearts fans, but people wishing to entertain clients. When was Tynecastle last a consistently entertaining afternoon out? Hence, no sale just now. I'm therefore all for sharing hospitality with visiting supporters. Pre-vlad, 12,000ish is what we would have expected for an Inverness match. In many ways I would rather share my Saturdays with 12,000 like minded Jambo's, as opposed to full house where 3,000ish additional glory hunters turn up expecting us to win by 3, then berrate the team when we don't. Saying that though, if we are serious about moving up to the next level than our marketing guys need to get creative to get bums-on-seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Apparantly Hearts have contacted Celtic to advise that on the fish course menu,The Scottish migratory fish will be replaced by SolePrompting a chorus of "The Salmons now Dover why dont you go home"l Quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HospitalityDetail/0,,10289~1400777,00.html Good idea imo. More clubs should offer this for visiting support. (i've had a few dodgy moments in hospitality at Ibrox and Falkirk) WTF is good about having those vile terrorist supporting vagrants inside our ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Whilst on the subject of Hospitality, im looking at going for it for the dons game on the 25th. ?140 + vat for the whole shin dig. Is it worth this? Or iv been told i can skip HT refreshments and sit in my own seat in the main stand and pay ?99+ vat. Is it worht taking in the whole day ? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Its simpy supply and demand. If Hearts are selling tickets direct to sellick /rankgers fans then I see no reason to not try to cash in and offer hospitality packages too. Good move on the corporate front by Hearts,well done. Just mind and wash the glasses properly after they have been used by the great unwashed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badly drawn boy Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 The club trying to make some cash? Sounds positive to me. By your logic trying to make cash out of the opposition means we are struggling (with no real proof). Therefore ideally, we should NOT be trying to make money out of the opposition, to prove we are financially well off? No club will EVER be in this position where it decides to stop trying to make money. Therefore this is not a negative story, its just the club announcing a new move to try and make MORE money. Thats a good thing. We are struggling , its not rocket science .Look at the empty seats in section A , we have increased the costs , removed any concessions like 2 for 1 etc at a time when corporate entertainemnt is being cut across the business market Understand the need to make money but its dissapointing that the place will be infested with that mob , its a gaurantee there will be problems -a couple of hundred of them full of drink , wait untill the chants go up and the friendly banter begins , with the Hearts fans right next to them in the suite and then they are to make there way to the roseburn You would trust that lot to show some respect ? , it will end in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 We are struggling , its not rocket science .Look at the empty seats in section A , we have increased the costs , removed any concessions like 2 for 1 etc at a time when corporate entertainemnt is being cut across the business market Understand the need to make money but its dissapointing that the place will be infested with that mob , its a gaurantee there will be problems -a couple of hundred of them full of drink , wait untill the chants go up and the friendly banter begins , with the Hearts fans right next to them in the suite and then they are to make there way to the roseburn You would trust that lot to show some respect ? , it will end in trouble Surely Hearts head of security would have been involved in discussions regarding the policing of this,and if he is happy that it can be done then there really is no problem taking money off the unwashed and spending it on the glorious Heart of Midlothian!!!(or buying another submarine!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djg001 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 it's not glory hunting when fans turn away - they are sick of the crap we have had to put up with for 2.5 seasons. Crap signings, Crap management etc etc there's no such things as a Hearts fan glory hunter, not until we start winning the league every year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Pre-vlad, 12,000ish is what we would have expected for an Inverness match. In many ways I would rather share my Saturdays with 12,000 like minded Jambo's, as opposed to full house where 3,000ish additional glory hunters turn up expecting us to win by 3, then berrate the team when we don't. Home League Attendances against Inverness Caledonian Thistle 25 sep 04: 10,340 12 Mar 05: 9,822 10 dec 05: 16,373 26 Aug 06: 15,912 10 Feb 07: 16,631 22 Dec 07: 16,202 26 Apr 08: 15,432 20 Sep 08 12,890 On this evidence (and the St. Mirren numbers are similar) the sudden upsurge in the teams performance increased gates by about a half Half of that increase has evaporated and half has stuck it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 This is market driven and little to do with Hearts.However I would have tried to sell reduced packages to Hearts fans first. Bear in mind the game will most likely be moved to a Sunday which makes it les attractive To me the packages like the curry club are a decent idea; hospitality is a quality day/night out, but it can be expensive if you're not going through a company. Some mid range packages to try to sell to groups of mates might be another thing they should look at doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Pre-vlad, 12,000ish is what we would have expected for an Inverness match. In many ways I would rather share my Saturdays with 12,000 like minded Jambo's, as opposed to full house where 3,000ish additional glory hunters turn up expecting us to win by 3, then berrate the team when we don't. Sorry bud never went along with that theory. Bottom line is if the team are doing well more punters come along. Nothing better than seeing a full Tynie - hate seeing thousands of empty seats and I'm sure the players would like to see the full houses come back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 The bit I like is "escorted to The Roseburn Stand". Is that going to be along the pitch side ? Could be fun and games ! Does anyone remember which games fans were moved at back in the 80's ? I can vaguely remember people being moved along the track to other areas of Tynie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Put some troughs out for them under the Roseburn stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Buaben Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Just to say that Celtic at least aint bringing the support they have done this seaon either massive gaps at both Fir park and rugby park! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 We'll be giving them back the full Roseburn Stand next.We obviously aren't selling the corporate packages to our own fans. After recruitment Corporate hospitality is always the next casualty of an economic downturn for most companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 [/b] After recruitment Corporate hospitality is always the next casualty of an economic downturn for most companies. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Seeger Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 it's not glory hunting when fans turn away - they are sick of the crap we have had to put up with for 2.5 seasons. Crap signings, Crap management etc etcthere's no such things as a Hearts fan glory hunter, not until we start winning the league every year anyway. So what your saying is you'll only go to the games when we're winning and making big signings? Glory hunting my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 So what your saying is you'll only go to the games when we're winning and making big signings? Glory hunting my friend. I think there is a difference between a glory hunter and a footbal fan ( albeit with a hearts slant ) who has decided he / she will no longer pay to watch utter p*sh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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