Therapist Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The great John Terry, captain of Chelsea FC, gets an unwarranted red card on Saturday. The decision is appealed and the authorities reverse the decision. Quite right too. It seems a perfectly straight forward and reasonable process to me, so why won't the SFA/GFA ever take similar action? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7614903.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I wonder if it was a Wigan player, and not the England captain whether we'd get the same descision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 They did, for Takis Fyssas's red against Celtic in New Year 2006. Pity the damage had been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The great John Terry, captain of Chelsea FC, gets an unwarranted red card on Saturday. The decision is appealed and the authorities reverse the decision. Quite right too. It seems a perfectly straight forward and reasonable process to me, so why won't the SFA/GFA ever take similar action? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7614903.stm i thought the refs decision was one of the best i've seen in years from a ref! Terry knows excatly what he is doing and knows he will get away with it ! The FA have bottled it and have shown people that it is ok to cheat as long as you play for England ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Dassler Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Must you call them FC every time you refer to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 They did, for Takis Fyssas's red against Celtic in New Year 2006. I appreciate that, but how many times does it happen relative to the number of serious incidents? Hardly ever. The EPL on the other hand seems to have a robust system that functions frequently and well. Incidentally, John Terry is a model professional. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Shouldn't have been rescinded. They can't change it to a yellow card so Chelsea would have to prove it wasn't worth a yellow either. It was a deliberate foul. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Must you call them FC every time you refer to them? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The FA have a history of bowing down to the captain of England. Remember when Shearer stamped on Lhennon. Basicaly if Shearer was gonna get charged he wasn't gonna play for England again, the result no charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 In other news, Chelsea looked very handy at the weekend i thought. Joe Cole was especially sharp. Yes, we're looking good and I suspect Bordeaux will feel the full force of the Chelsea FC hurricane tonight. Sadly, I won't be there to see it as my work has implemented an emergency-only travel policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Remember when Shearer stamped on Lhennon. I do. Nothing wrong with that. He was doing a good deed on behalf of the populace. Never thought I'd see the day when you were sticking up for Lhennon. You ok mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Nothing against Chelsea and I think Terry is a good player. But I loathe him as a person and I think he is a bit of w*nk stain if I am being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Must you call them FC every time you refer to them? The FC stands for f*****g ^^^^s!! Plastic cockneys, laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Yes, we're looking good and I suspect Bordeaux will feel the full force of the Chelsea FC hurricane tonight. Sadly, I won't be there to see it as my work has implemented an emergency-only travel policy. Who'll be laying out the biscuits at the next Managers meeting then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Who'll be laying out the biscuits at the next Managers meeting then? No idea. The biscuits have gone the same way as our travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I appreciate that, but how many times does it happen relative to the number of serious incidents? Hardly ever. The EPL on the other hand seems to have a robust system that functions frequently and well. Incidentally, John Terry is a model professional. Fact. Now thats just fishing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaka_22 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Shouldn't have been rescinded. They can't change it to a yellow card so Chelsea would have to prove it wasn't worth a yellow either. It was a deliberate foul. Pathetic. Never a truer word said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejpee Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I was hoping he would get an extra couple of games added on.. But thats purely through red tinted glasses. It was a harsh red card IMO. He knew what he was doing but was in no way the last man and just did enough to take the player out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I do. Nothing wrong with that. He was doing a good deed on behalf of the populace. Never thought I'd see the day when you were sticking up for Lhennon. You ok mate? I wasn't sticking up for that *****, mealry pointing out that the FA are bottle merchants when it come to their captains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 John Terry is a crybaby southern batty boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Chelsea are killing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wattie Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Shouldn't have been rescinded. They can't change it to a yellow card so Chelsea would have to prove it wasn't worth a yellow either. It was a deliberate foul. Pathetic. Really? I've learned something new then. Two things in fact - apparently rugby tackles don't warrant even a yellow card.....if your name is John Terry. FWIW I thought a yellow card would have sufficed at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Chelsea are killing football. Do you not mean Manchester City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 John Terry is a crybaby southern batty boy. You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how homophobic it may be. However, he's also a world-class footballer who plays for one of the world's greatest clubs, rather than a hoofballing cart horse who plays for a division three side who have lurched from one financial crisis to another and who once thought they were "good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The great John Terry, captain of Chelsea FC, gets an unwarranted red card on Saturday. The decision is appealed and the authorities reverse the decision. Quite right too. It seems a perfectly straight forward and reasonable process to me, so why won't the SFA/GFA ever take similar action? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7614903.stm I was puzzled when they said on the telly that the 4th official had said it was for "serious foul play"...seems to me the ref quickly decided he'd made a mistake and decided to call it that, knowing an appeal would be successful. Had it been deemed "preventing a goal scoring opportunity", which one could argue it was, then Chelsea's case would have been pretty flimsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how homophobic it may be. However, he's also a world-class footballer who plays for one of the world's greatest clubs, rather than a hoofballing cart horse who plays for a division three side who have lurched from one financial crisis to another and who once thought they were "good". If only he could keep his feet and stroke that penalty home. Once in a lifetime chance as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 If only he could keep his feet and stroke that penalty home. Once in a lifetime chance as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeBarclay94 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 John Terry sucks kn0bs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Once in a lifetime chance as well. We shall see. He might not get to take another penalty in the final but I'm confident Chelsea FC and John Terry will get there again - and win. The adventure starts tonight - blue is the colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Head over the ball son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEILY1874 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 We shall see. He might not get to take another penalty in the final but I'm confident Chelsea FC and John Terry will get there again - and win. The adventure starts tonight - blue is the colour If Heart of Midlothian FC ever meet chelski in european competition (unlikely i know) who would you be cheering on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 We shall see. He might not get to take another penalty in the final but I'm confident Chelsea FC and John Terry will get there again - and win. The adventure starts tonight - blue is the colour That's the the kind of bulldog spirit that won the Punjab Therapist. I actually think you'll do well in the CL and EPL under big Phil. You're certainly easier on the eye football wise I'll certainly be watching your game tonight rather than human sleeping pills Liverpool FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 We shall see. He might not get to take another penalty in the final but I'm confident Chelsea FC and John Terry will get there again - and win. The adventure starts tonight - blue is the colour We shall see Therpaist. Lets just hope you play some decent stuff this year (the signs are better) -last year was a bore fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Dassler Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 It's just been on Sky Sports again, i must admit to feeling a bit sorry for JT. One of the worlds greatest clubs though? AC Milan Ajax Manchester United Barcelona Juventus Real Madrid Bayern Munich Liverpool Chelsea are nowhere near there i'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Chelsea looked very good on saturday. Interesting point from Lee Dixon on MOTD, in that big Phil is releasing the full backs as per the Brazilian national side. It looked like Ashley Cole was back to his form when he was with Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gorgie kev Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Yes, we're looking good and I suspect Bordeaux will feel the full force of the Chelsea FC hurricane tonight. Sadly, I won't be there to see it as my work has implemented an emergency-only travel policy. Still detained at Her Majestys pleasure then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Incidentally, John Terry is a model professional. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 It was a terrible decision. John Terry is the biggest bottle merchant in world football though. He was responsible for Chelsea FC losing the UEFA Champions League final to Manchester United FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
always a jambo Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 JT should've only got a yellow for that challenge anyway. I think that if a red card is taken back then a yellow should take its place instead of the player getting off scot free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The great John Terry, captain of Chelsea FC, gets an unwarranted red card on Saturday. The decision is appealed and the authorities reverse the decision. Quite right too. It seems a perfectly straight forward and reasonable process to me, so why won't the SFA/GFA ever take similar action? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7614903.stm for once i agree with you 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Personally I'd like to have seen the Red card stand. exactly the kind of cynical foul that the term 'Professional' foul should be referring to. No attempt to win the ball and arguably violent conduct after throwing a payer to the floor. This is where football is all wrong in my opinion. A player making a genuine attempt to play the ball and clipping a player in the box when the last man gets a penalty aainst him and a red card. Big bawface Terry rugby tackles a player when Man City have a 2 on 1 break and gets it rescinded. See also Red cards for violent conduct like Jeremie Aliadiere's at Liverpool last season compared to players who'll boot someone up in the air with the ball long gone and get a booking. Spirirt of the game, that's what they should be looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Personally I'd like to have seen the Red card stand. exactly the kind of cynical foul that the term 'Professional' foul should be referring to. No attempt to win the ball and arguably violent conduct after throwing a payer to the floor. This is where football is all wrong in my opinion. A player making a genuine attempt to play the ball and clipping a player in the box when the last man gets a penalty aainst him and a red card. Big bawface Terry rugby tackles a player when Man City have a 2 on 1 break and gets it rescinded. See also Red cards for violent conduct like Jeremie Aliadiere's at Liverpool last season compared to players who'll boot someone up in the air with the ball long gone and get a booking. Spirirt of the game, that's what they should be looking for. That's how it should be ........cos JT was taking out his opponent one way or the other, end of ! I don't understand how the ref called it serious foul play though ( as it never came into that category surely ) and one can only guess he's made that claim, in light of Carvalho's covering run, to give himself an 'out' when it's re-examined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 i thought the refs decision was one of the best i've seen in years from a ref! Terry knows excatly what he is doing and knows he will get away with it ! The FA have bottled it and have shown people that it is ok to cheat as long as you play for England ! I agree with you. It was done deliberatly and it defo stopped a goal scoring attack even if it's not the "last man" (made up commentators phrase anyway) or there was one guy covering. so the red card is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 On first viewing, I thought it was a red card and after watching the replay I thought it was a red card. It was utterly cynical and I do not think that Carvalho etc would have prevented that Man City player getting through on goal. Just because there is a player within ten yards does not mean there is cover and they can stop a goalscoring opportunity. Vidic's one against Liverpool was a clear red care - no way any Man United player was stopping a goal scoring opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Never a red card. Now he'll be fit and fresh for the Mancs. In fact, Scolari should take him, Lampard and Cole off now for the Man U game, the game is finished. Feet up boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S.U.S.S. Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Wasnt a red and while i have no love of Chelsea, i think it was the right action to take. It was a yellow at worst as cover was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 i thought the refs decision was one of the best i've seen in years from a ref! Terry knows excatly what he is doing and knows he will get away with it ! The FA have bottled it and have shown people that it is ok to cheat as long as you play for England ! What a complete load of pish! I don't like Chelsea as much as the next person but I saw the sending off and it was the wrong decision by the ref, nothing else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 That was a tremendous win by Chelsea FC last night and bodes well for our Champions League campaign. Blue is the colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 What a complete load of pish! I don't like Chelsea as much as the next person but I saw the sending off and it was the wrong decision by the ref, nothing else! Not seen it John and perhaps it should never have been a straight red. Bottom line it was and the FA have made a James Hunt of things by rescinding it. The rule is, as far as I'm aware though it may have changed, that you can rescind one yellow if a player is sent off via 2 yellow cards. You cannot downgrade a straight red to a yellow the same way as you cannot (after the fact) upgrade a yellow to a red. So from that point of view Demento has a fair gripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I think some people might be reading the rules wrong. It has nothing to do with being the last man, Jo was denied a clear goalscoring opportunity by John Terry taking him out. Thats a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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