Well Done Nicola Sturgeon

[felix]

Free Prescriptions and now.... Free Parking at NHS Hospitals.

Good to see the SNP focussing on some basic socialist principles.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7593400.stm

 

[Miller Jambo 60]

Free Prescriptions and now.... Free Parking at NHS Hospitals.

Good to see the SNP focussing on some basic socialist principles.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7593400.stm

 

 

Edinburgh Royal (no free parking)

[EIEIO]

Free Prescriptions and now.... Free Parking at NHS Hospitals.

Good to see the SNP focussing on some basic socialist principles.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7593400.stm

 

 

What date are prescriptions free from?

[felix]

What date are prescriptions free from?

 

Planned for 2011 I believe.

[felix]

Edinburgh Royal (no free parking)

 

Difficult to undo the PFI hospital agreements set-up by the champagne socialist Labour party Doug....I'm sure if they could have, the SNP would have abolished parking charges here too.

[Miller Jambo 60]

Difficult to undo the PFI hospital agreements set-up by the champagne socialist Labour party Doug....I'm sure if they could have, the SNP would have abolished parking charges here too.

 

At least the SNP are making an effort

[the voice from above]

well that's all well and good if you're sick or know someone who's sick or like to stalk nurses or live near a hospital but don't have a drive but it's of absolutely no help to me! VOTE TORIE!!! now where's that sacarsm thingy?

[i8hibsh]

Free Prescriptions and now.... Free Parking at NHS Hospitals.

Good to see the SNP focussing on some basic socialist principles.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7593400.stm

 

 

Socialism is the plague of this planet

secondly, don't be fooled by this.................where is this money coming from?

 

It is a cheap tactic to show Westminster and the Scottish electorate that SNP can do wonderful things.

 

It is a 'vote winner'.

 

I don't agree with free prescriptions. If you can afford it then pay for it. Obviously the elderly etc get it but why the feck should some tax payer pay for someone to get something for their kn*b rot?

 

Also from what I see this is indiscrimatory which is a joke!

[Boris]

Socialism is the plague of this planet

eh? how's that then?

secondly, don't be fooled by this.................where is this money coming from?

 

It is a cheap tactic to show Westminster and the Scottish electorate that SNP can do wonderful things.

 

It is a 'vote winner'.

 

I don't agree with free prescriptions. If you can afford it then pay for it. Obviously the elderly etc get it but why the feck should some tax payer pay for someone to get something for their kn*b rot?

 

Also from what I see this is indiscrimatory which is a joke!

 

If you have a graduated tax system then those who can afford pay via their taxes so that society as a whole benefits.

 

As soon as you start charging the inidvidual for these sort of things then they will not bother to get the prescription, as a result will be ill longer, as a result being a greater burden on society etc etc etc

[i8hibsh]

eh? how's that then?

 

 

It punishes those who are better than others

[Paul_C]

Free Prescriptions and now.... Free Parking at NHS Hospitals.Good to see the SNP focussing on some basic socialist principles.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7593400.stm

 

 

A nice gesture but is Nicola Sturgeon going to compensate each of the individual trusts on the 6 figure sums they will now lose per year for the loss of the parking charges?

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

It punishes those who are better than others

 

So if someone has more money than someone else, That means they are a better person?

 

[The Doctor]

Socialism is the plague of this planet

secondly, don't be fooled by this.................where is this money coming from?

 

It is a cheap tactic to show Westminster and the Scottish electorate that SNP can do wonderful things.

 

It is a 'vote winner'.

 

I don't agree with free prescriptions. If you can afford it then pay for it. Obviously the elderly etc get it but why the feck should some tax payer pay for someone to get something for their kn*b rot?

 

Also from what I see this is discriminatory which is a joke!

 

But parking fees at NHS hospitals are indiscriminate, they are imposed whether the person can afford it or not.

 

The only fair way to tax people is on their income. That was the problem with the Poll Tax (community charge) and remains the problem with VAT, duty etc.

 

Raise income tax, scrap the rest.

[i8hibsh]

So if someone has more money than someone else, That means they are a better person?

 

 

Did I say that?

 

Those who are harder working, more honest and with more drive are better

[i8hibsh]

But parking fees at NHS hospitals are indiscriminate, they are imposed whether the person can afford it or not.

 

The only fair way to tax people is on their income. That was the problem with the Poll Tax (community charge) and remains the problem with VAT, duty etc.

 

Raise income tax, scrap the rest.

 

Sorry i meant indiscriminate

[felix]

A nice gesture but is Nicola Sturgeon going to compensate each of the individual trusts on the 6 figure sums they will now lose per year for the loss of the parking charges?

 

The short answer appears to be yes.

Funding for NHS Boards is programmed to rise to 8 Billion in the coming year....6-figure sums are a mere drop in the ocean when talking about NHS funding.

If they really want to save the Health Boards money, governments should target improving public health

To be fair to the SNP - they're targetting substantial inevestment in Sport, Alcohol & Drug misuse, obesity and Housing as key improvement areas.

[Paul_C]

The short answer appears to be yes.

Funding for NHS Boards is programmed to rise to 8 Billion in the coming year....6-figure sums are a mere drop in the ocean when talking about NHS funding.

If they really want to save the Health Boards money, governments should target improving public health

To be fair to the SNP - they're targetting substantial inevestment in Sport, Alcohol & Drug misuse, obesity and Housing as key improvement areas.

 

If that's the case then all well and good. 6 figure sums may be a drop in the ocean when up against the figure you quoted but I know for a fact, one hospital on that list is losing around ?20k a year from suspended bays due to reconstruction work and they are pushing the contractors to finish the work early to get the bays back to making money.

 

For all the talk of the money the Executive is putting in to NHS, the individual trusts are struggling and need to maximise income from every way possible.

[Ray Winstone]

Knowing a couple of nurses and how much they spend on parking - this will save them around 8quid a day.

 

Over the course of a year its a big saving for already under paid staff.

[Boris]

It punishes those who are better than others

 

Does it?

 

Personally, I don't think that it does.

 

What it does do is engender a collective spirit of unity amongst the people, and helps breed an unselfish society capable of meeting all challenges head on.

 

Again, that's imho.

[i8hibsh]

Does it?

 

Personally, I don't think that it does.

 

What it does do is engender a collective spirit of unity amongst the people, and helps breed an unselfish society capable of meeting all challenges head on.

 

Again, that's imho.

 

Equality does not and should never exist!!!

 

Noone is equal. Some people are just better than others.

 

There are pure filth that deserve nothing more than to rot away, and there are the genuine, good, hard working folk that deserve all of the good things that life has to offer, whether life's simple comforts or luxuries

 

There are the people that take sickies when they can't be ersed going to work. There are the people who just can't be bothored working at all and there are the go getters, who want to better themselves, they work endless hours trying to get ahead

 

If you do not agree with this post then I despair

[i8hibsh]

I defy ANYONE to give me an example of where socialism works?

 

All socialism does is take all a countries wealth and concentrate it to about 2% of the polulation?

 

Boris please help me out.... name a country where socialism works?

[felix]

I defy ANYONE to give me an example of where socialism works?

 

The National Health Service

[i8hibsh]

 

The National Health Service

 

Behave!!!

 

I meant as in government

 

The NHS is fantastic but would not survive without the PRIVATE SECTOR - FACT

[Pants Shaton]

Both free prescriptions and free car-parking look like good ideas but scratch the surface...

 

Free prescriptions: already exist for pensioners, children , people on benefits and those with selected chronic illnesses. I can't envisage many 'poor' people benefitting from this policy.

 

Free hosptial parking: Nice gesture but hospital parking fees are generally minimal with the exception of PFIs. ?7 for 8 hours at Edinburgh Royal Infirmary and that isn't going to change.

 

When these revenue streams are closed the money needs to come from elsewhere. Where?

[i8hibsh]

The Welfare State is fantastic (albeit open for abuse)

 

 

The NHS is fantastic and state Schools are fantastic

 

However it is all about choice!!!

 

Someone should have the right to send their kids to a fee paying school if they desire, go to receive treatment from a better hospital should they see fit

 

That is what makes democracy fantastic

[i8hibsh]

Unemployment in Britain stands at 3 million people.

 

Now there are jobs available EVERYWHERE, but because of gov't hand outs etc it makes more sense for people to stay unemployed!!!

 

I don't want to scrap the welfare system, I am 100% pro welfare

 

BUT

 

only to the truly worthy. The real genuine cases should receive it with all my blessings, the scroungers should be shot and used for medical research

[i8hibsh]

Both free prescriptions and free car-parking look like good ideas but scratch the surface...

 

Free prescriptions: already exist for pensioners, children , people on benefits and those with selected chronic illnesses. I can't envisage many 'poor' people benefitting from this policy.

 

Free hosptial parking: Nice gesture but hospital parking fees are generally minimal with the exception of PFIs. ?7 for 8 hours at Edinburgh Royal Infirmary and that isn't going to change.

 

When these revenue streams are closed the money needs to come from elsewhere. Where?

 

The SNP have no sense of fiscal reality. They are blowing our bugdget at a staggering rate. They can't afford to kaap there manifesto promises on Policing as they are too busy giving the rich free prescriptions. These idiots need to learn that money is a finite resource.................and fast!

 

They will be going cap in hand to Westminster very shortly.

 

Anyone seen the Simpsons episode where Homer becomes sanitation commisionar? well that is the SNP!!

[Boris]

Equality does not and should never exist!!!

 

Noone is equal. Some people are just better than others.

 

There are pure filth that deserve nothing more than to rot away, and there are the genuine, good, hard working folk that deserve all of the good things that life has to offer, whether life's simple comforts or luxuries

 

There are the people that take sickies when they can't be ersed going to work. There are the people who just can't be bothored working at all and there are the go getters, who want to better themselves, they work endless hours trying to get ahead

 

If you do not agree with this post then I despair

 

One of the ten points of the communist manifesto is equal liability of work for all.

 

You seem to be making the schoolboy error of equating Daily Mail scarelines with socialism.

 

C'mon Chief! you're better than that!

 

Of course people are different - equality refers to treatment and quality of life. I would say that the general idea is for everyone to work in the interests of everyone thereby helping themselves as well as the community as a whole.

[Boris]

 

Behave!!!

 

I meant as in government

 

The NHS is fantastic but would not survive without the PRIVATE SECTOR - FACT

 

The Atlee Govt from 1945.

 

There is an arguement that eben Churchills War Cabinet was "socialist" in that it was "one for all and all for one".

[Boris]

The Welfare State is fantastic (albeit open for abuse)

 

 

The NHS is fantastic and state Schools are fantastic

 

However it is all about choice!!!

 

Someone should have the right to send their kids to a fee paying school if they desire, go to receive treatment from a better hospital should they see fit

 

That is what makes democracy fantastic

 

Indeed, however they should do so off their own backs and receive no state aid to do so.

[269miles]

The Welfare State is fantastic (albeit open for abuse)

 

 

The NHS is fantastic and state Schools are fantastic

 

However it is all about choice!!!

 

Someone should have the right to send their kids to a fee paying school if they desire, go to receive treatment from a better hospital should they see fit

 

That is what makes democracy fantastic

 

That isn't a human 'right' but I agree , if the option is available , let them use it. But since you are against scroungers etc does that mean you agree that private schools should lose their charity status ? After all , what charitable work do they actually do ?

 

You do come across as a very frustrated Daily Mail reader.

[Boris]

a very frustrated Daily Mail reader.

 

Aren't all DM readers?

[Denny Crane]

I defy ANYONE to give me an example of where socialism works?

 

All socialism does is take all a countries wealth and concentrate it to about 2% of the polulation?

 

Boris please help me out.... name a country where socialism works?

 

I believe you are flying out to one soon. The Socialists aren't in power in Sweden right now but have dominated the political landscape for quite some time resulting in a much-heralded welfare system.

[The Doctor]

That isn't a human 'right' but I agree , if the option is available , let them use it. But since you are against scroungers etc does that mean you agree that private schools should lose their charity status ? After all , what charitable work do they actually do ?

 

You do come across as a very frustrated Daily Mail reader.

 

I run a homeless charity and am very well supported by several Edinburgh public schools, financially and otherwise, including Heriots, Loretto, Fettes and Cargillfield.

 

I'm not saying that they're great charitable institutions, but it's not like they do nothing. They also have as many non fee paying pupils as they can afford, on bursaries etc. The fact that they are educators is a charitable aim.

[upthehill]

It should read "SNP implement yet another Conservative policy, further adding to Salmonds statement that he did not mind Thatchers fiscal policy"

 

Here is the Conservative take on it.

 

?Scottish Conservatives have consistently campaigned against the hated Lib/Lab hospital parking tax. We were told it would only be introduced as a last resort to prevent congestion problems but instead became a cynical stealth tax on dedicated staff, vulnerable patients and concerned visitors. I am therefore delighted that the Lib/Lab parking tax is to be abolished.

 

?No doubt Labour and the Lib Dems will welcome this announcement in yet another vain attempt to distance themselves from their own policies, but the public will not be fooled by such rank hypocrisy. People will not forget that this tax was introduced by the Lib/Lab Pact and abolished by the SNP under pressure from the Scottish Conservatives."

[felix]

It should read "SNP implement yet another Conservative policy, further adding to Salmonds statement that he did not mind Thatchers fiscal policy"

 

Here is the Conservative take on it.

 

?Scottish Conservatives have consistently campaigned against the hated Lib/Lab hospital parking tax. We were told it would only be introduced as a last resort to prevent congestion problems but instead became a cynical stealth tax on dedicated staff, vulnerable patients and concerned visitors. I am therefore delighted that the Lib/Lab parking tax is to be abolished.

 

?No doubt Labour and the Lib Dems will welcome this announcement in yet another vain attempt to distance themselves from their own policies, but the public will not be fooled by such rank hypocrisy. People will not forget that this tax was introduced by the Lib/Lab Pact and abolished by the SNP under pressure from the Scottish Conservatives."

 

Don't think the Tories can crow about anything when it comes to hospital parking charges.

It's because of their masterplan on PFI funded buildings, that parking charges are so high at hospitals such as ERI.

[i8hibsh]

I believe you are flying out to one soon. The Socialists aren't in power in Sweden right now but have dominated the political landscape for quite some time resulting in a much-heralded welfare system.

 

Sweden is VERY capitalist dude

[Denny Crane]

Sweden is VERY capitalist dude

 

With the exception of four general elections, since the end of World War One, the party deemed to represent the Swedish left, the Social Democrats, have been in government. One stretch lasted from the end of the Second World War until 1976.

[davemclaren]

With the exception of four general elections, since the end of World War One, the party deemed to represent the Swedish left, the Social Democrats, have been in government. One stretch lasted from the end of the Second World War until 1976.

 

Yes, but Sweden has failed in those years...

[upthehill]

Yes, but Sweden has failed in those years...

 

It has if you judge how civilised a society is by the price of it's beer!

[Boris]

With the exception of four general elections, since the end of World War One, the party deemed to represent the Swedish left, the Social Democrats, have been in government. One stretch lasted from the end of the Second World War until 1976.

 

The Scandanavian social model is one to be admired.

[Stewart MacD]

well that's all well and good if you're sick or know someone who's sick or like to stalk nurses or live near a hospital but don't have a drive but it's of absolutely no help to me! VOTE TORIE!!! now where's that sacarsm thingy?

 

Yes, quite right. Spend the money on literacy programs.