smike1874 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 nice to see aberdeen standing there ground when it comes to 5% levy for old firm. "it's not about money it's about security" MY ERSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Unlike Hearts, who only sell the animals 2000 tickets, Dundee Utd and Aberdeen genuinely rely on Old Firm fans to inflate their average attendances and give them 6000 - 7000 tickets. Diddy clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 nice to see aberdeen standing there ground when it comes to 5% levy for old firm. "it's not about money it's about security" MY ERSE So true Smike At least they could have called their bluff but no That's the reason the OF swagger about bullying in their unique arrogant style when you have gutless clubs like Aberdeen I think the OF were just testing the water and cant believe their luck that two of the bigger teams buckled so quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 It annoys me so much the bad press we got for uppin our prices and these extorsion merchants havent so much as had a sniff of a ragin headline. They only place Ive seen it mentioned negativley towards these pimps is on Tam Cowans coloum. Fair play to the fat Motherwell d**k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 So much for coddy claims that they "stand free". Spineless, bottling bar stewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 This is why we should say stuff them and why Rangers/Celtic fans are even more stupid than we think if they allow this to happen. As stated below the architect of the whole business had the cheek to phone Falkirk so the 'FRIENDS' of the club ie the corporate hangers on and those in favour with the ticket office could have a chance of getting tickets -- are they being charged a premium ? Their own club is cutting down the chances of the ordinary fan getting a ticket even more to look after their own self interests. 'PS. Brazen Bain still phoned Falkirk to ask for 500 tickets for his, ahem, special fans.' AS REPORTED IN TODAYS SUNDAY MAIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie1874 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 They money that is important to the sheep and DU must be equally important to Falkirk - however they at least have the balls to stand up. The OF fans are like rats who follow the pied piper so they could easily have come up with a system to sell the tickets directly using travel clubs etc and not lost revenue. Unless both of them have put a tenner on to the price of a ticket to screw the pair of them they are spinless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 To be honest, the OF should be carpeted for this, but they won't. The current system means that thay can have a handle on who gets hands on their tickets. Now if we, and the other teams who stand up to them, sell them ourselves, then any of their bams can get hold of tickets. You watch, the minute any trouble happens, they'll claim it was because we did not let them sell their tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 They money that is important to the sheep and DU must be equally important to Falkirk - however they at least have the balls to stand up. The OF fans are like rats who follow the pied piper so they could easily have come up with a system to sell the tickets directly using travel clubs etc and not lost revenue. Unless both of them have put a tenner on to the price of a ticket to screw the pair of them they are spinless thats what i was about to say. if falkirk can manage without paying the extra 5% then why the hell cant aberdeen and dundee utd? altho to be fair to utd celtic more or less threatened them, which IMO was bang out of order although not surprising. the OF are completely out of order with this request but as usual the spl cave in and give them what they want. i think falkirk have proven that it is easy enough to sell the tickets themselves and make the money without giving them their extra money. hopefully falkirk will show the likes of hamilton, killie and ICT that it is very much achievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 How typical of the Dollies and the Dundonian tramps.. They should be ashamed of themselves for selling everyone down the river. Sheeitebags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 How typical of the Dollies and the Dundonian tramps.. They should be ashamed of themselves for selling everyone down the river. Sheeitebags. Well the DUFC spokesman reckoned there was going to be a meeting of at least a half dozen other SPL clubs so I hope this isn't the best they could come up with ? As I keep on saying, I reckon they're up to something more sinister here than just clawing back a few grand over a season ? IMO though, it would have been a great opportunity to take them all the way and see what the OFs own fans would make of it ! If they had refused to take any tickets for Tannadice then that to me alters the status quo on allocations full stop. United would then have been fully entitled to assume Celtic no longer wished to receive any tickets .........and simply offer them diddly squat for future matches ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smike1874 Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 Unlike Hearts, who only sell the animals 2000 tickets, Dundee Utd and Aberdeen genuinely rely on Old Firm fans to inflate their average attendances and give them 6000 - 7000 tickets. Diddy clubs. maybe united give them 4k-5k but the sheep certainly don't so why defend them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 maybe united give them 4k-5k but the sheep certainly don't so why defend them! I wasn't defending them - merely pointing out they're diddy clubs who are reliant on the OF to inflate their crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 So both the Dundonian Manks and the Codheids have caved in now. Who's still, ahem, 'Standing free' ? Hearts, Kilmarnock & Falkirk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I know there is a rule against charging visiting fans more than home fans as the Pars got done for it, but surely there is the possibility of charging the OF fans an extra 5% and calling it an "Administration fee" then telling the dirty so and so's to take any gripes up with their own club as that is who is levying it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 dont let the manky ***ers in the ground in the 1st place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 nice to see aberdeen standing there ground when it comes to 5% levy for old firm. "it's not about money it's about security" MY ERSE i was also Shocked to see Aberdeen bend over for the OF....pure sh...ite. What are they playing at? ....tell them to FO....when clubs like Aberdeen and Drugs Utd cant stand up ....(the NEW FIRM??????) the whole league is in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I could see the sheeps point if they wanted to give a much larger allocation to them to make more from it seeing as they have a pethetic home support, however they herd them into that little corner and give them the same amount of tickets as ourselves, or Hibs, and stand to actually lose from it. Spinless bassas!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I could see the sheeps point if they wanted to give a much larger allocation to them to make more from it seeing as they have a pethetic home support, however they herd them into that little corner and give them the same amount of tickets as ourselves, or Hibs, and stand to actually lose from it. Spinless bassas!! i think your right in the sense that the so called new firm totally struggle to gather home fans....so have to make other plans....what has Hibs response been to this situ? have they said wot they are doing? WP Falkirk btw....taking no sh.it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 i think your right in the sense that the so called new firm totally struggle to gather home fans....so have to make other plans....what has Hibs response been to this situ? have they said wot they are doing? WP Falkirk btw....taking no sh.it. As far as I know Hibs are taking the same stance as ourselves and Falkirk and going to sell tickets direct from their own ground to old firm fans. To be honest, Hearts, Hibs and Falkirk don't need to bow to them as they know that they will most likely be sell outs anyway, Hearts and Hibs because we have big enough supports to gain enough interest to sell out old firm visits these days, and Falkirk because they only have 2 stands. It would be interesting to see what stance Falkirk would take if they had 4 stands surrounding their pitch that they needed to fill, something tells me they wouldn't be so quick to tell the OF where to stick it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 As far as I know Hibs are taking the same stance as ourselves and Falkirk and going to sell tickets direct from their own ground to old firm fans. To be honest, Hearts, Hibs and Falkirk don't need to bow to them as they know that they will most likely be sell outs anyway, Hearts and Hibs because we have big enough supports to gain enough interest to sell out old firm visits these days, and Falkirk because they only have 2 stands. It would be interesting to see what stance Falkirk would take if they had 4 stands surrounding their pitch that they needed to fill, something tells me they wouldn't be so quick to tell the OF where to stick it. I can mib excuse D Utd as short notice (and theyve said they will review things after 1st game v tic tacs) However the rest....that have been relying on OF support to survive need to take a good close look at themselves. I am convinced a good Drugs Utd team would sell out against Hobos A good Aberdeen team would sell out against Hearts and others....us ..the football fans...arent all waiting for wej teams to come along. tell them to beat it...give them no tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Mugabe Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 This is why it's up to us to challenge the OF. The thing is, it's in the other clubs' interest to have as many OF fans as possible to keep them afloat. Therefore, they need a successful OF. The diddy clubs are every bit as responsible for the crooked game we have up here. They may moan from time to time about it, but the fact is that they secretly like the status quo as it takes away the burden of needing to be ambitious and successful. It also goes along way to explaining the unbelievable hatred we received from them all during the 05/06 season for the terrible crime of showing some ambition. Bunch of glorified satellite OF supporters' clubs is what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney from Sydney Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 nice to see aberdeen standing there ground when it comes to 5% levy for old firm. "it's not about money it's about security" MY ERSE If the OF can guarantee security by charginh 5% for the sale of tickets then we should simply add 5% to the ticket price and tell them to get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 This is why it's up to us to challenge the OF. The thing is, it's in the other clubs' interest to have as many OF fans as possible to keep them afloat. Therefore, they need a successful OF. The diddy clubs are every bit as responsible for the crooked game we have up here. They may moan from time to time about it, but the fact is that they secretly like the status quo as it takes away the burden of needing to be ambitious and successful. It also goes along way to explaining the unbelievable hatred we received from them all during the 05/06 season for the terrible crime of showing some ambition. Bunch of glorified satellite OF supporters' clubs is what they are. Correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 The old firm would have had to back down if the spinless halfwits had stood together.If they cant decide who gets the tickets there is a greater chance that more of their ****my bigots will be at the games singing song they shouldnt thus getting the both of them into bother(allegedly). If more of the spl teams cave in how long before they charge 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 The Dollies and the Dungdee Tramps are the Uglies gimps. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 The old firm would have had to back down if the spinless halfwits had stood together.If they cant decide who gets the tickets there is a greater chance that more of their ****my bigots will be at the games singing song they shouldnt thus getting the both of them into bother(allegedly).If more of the spl teams cave in how long before they charge 10%. That's the real problem too many complete bottlers in boardrooms all over Scotland when it comes to dealing with the Old Firm. As far as we are concerned I hope that we reduce the number of tickets made available to their support and insist that we sell the tickets to their supporters from our ticket office on a predetermined day - and they can only purchase one if they produce a season ticket for their club (full details noted by our staff before the sale is made) - only one ticket sold per person. That way we would control who gets these tickets and mightily heave off their supporters for having come through to Edinburgh to get tickets. I'm sure that as this would affect the ticketing pecking order inside these clubs, those that miss out on these games would start to give Celtic/Rangers boards a real ear bashing and normal service would be resumed quickly. If every club did this the Old firm would get the mseesage very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Again a chance for SPL clubs to stick together and show unity against the OF. Just out of interest.... Is this a fixed term for x amount of seasons, or can the OF raise the % (for example) next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its been a long time baby Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Is it true that celtic wouldnt take any tickets at all if DU didnt cave in? DU really should have stood up for theirselves just this once as I would think the celtic fans (any fans) would be raging that they cant go to a game because of their own clubs greed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Is it true that celtic wouldnt take any tickets at all if DU didnt cave in? DU really should have stood up for theirselves just this once as I would think the celtic fans (any fans) would be raging that they cant go to a game because of their own clubs greed! They refused to take any if DU didnt agree . DU gave a % to the **** and also sold a % of away ticks themselves via phone sales.The vermin got upset as they had pay a ?1.50 admin charge and give full name and address details to DU. DU is one the grounds the **** enjoy going to as they get no problems from sitting in home end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 maybe united give them 4k-5k but the sheep certainly don't so why defend them! The sheep DO give the OF about 4k tickets. They give them more of the South stand than when they play any other team. Anyway, they're a bunch of spineless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecosse Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Aberdeen FC have denied agreeing to the fee , but admit to a meeting in the future with Rangers..... in other words the contracts arnt signed yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe.gausden Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 surely it would be easy to obtain contact details for both the bigot brothers supporters clubs and contact them direct via letter, email etc and take block bookings from them. i fear ourselves and Flakirk will be the only ones to stick two fingers up at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 You watch, the minute any trouble happens, they'll claim it was because we did not let them sell their tickets. They'll probably blame it on Chelsea casuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Aberdeen talked a good game a few years ago when the rest of the SPL could have held a dagger to the throat of the OF about gate money by telling them to go Foxtrot Oscar and play in a league of their own. Yet as soon as the OF fed them a few more scraps from the table, they surrendered quicker than the Italian army. They are full of bs and are living in the 80s still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Apparently they have grown a set now, as on their website they have denied caving in, instead they are only holding discussions? Tell them where to go wiggy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Why can't someone put forward a motion to the SPL that a floating fund is available where clubs can make claims where they are being directly 'fleeced' by fellow member clubs and outwith the spirit of fair play. So if you pay the levy, you get compensated, if you don't then you pass your own costs (inc actual reduction in income if you don't get an anticipated sell out.) The OF are using bully boy tactics. The best I'm hoping for is that while some of the teams appear to be caving in, there is a lot of negotiating going on in the background among the other ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eck1874 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 We really should just be telling this disgusting pair of buckfast swirling smelly bassas that if they don't want to sell the tickets there will be none allocated to either of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammyheart Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 If tthey dont want the tickets I would give them away free to school kids and encourage them to support other teams rather than the OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrey Jambo Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Looks like Aberdeen have got round the problem by giving them all of the South Stand and charging ?1 extra per seat. Of course, that only works if they get the whole stand. And they want 5% of sales of their away games in Glasgow. http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/775733?UserKey=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Looks like Aberdeen have got round the problem by giving them all of the South Stand and charging ?1 extra per seat. Of course, that only works if they get the whole stand. And they want 5% of sales of their away games in Glasgow.http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/775733?UserKey=0 Let me get this right, in an effort to safeguard the club, they are charging Aberdeen fans more for tickets? And ensuring that Aberdeen fans pay more when they go to Glasgow for games? Am I reading that correctly? If so then Aberdeen have fecked over their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONis Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 The deal is, that the South Stand tickets will be ?1 more expensive for Category A games (Rangers and Celtic only). The ?1 can then be redeemed against a category B game. Effectively Hun and Whore FC fans will have to pay the 5%. Everyones a winner except the OF fans and some AFC fans that can only be ersed to go to the "big" games. AFC was quite explicit that it would charge the OF 5% but no-one else for distribution of tickets to our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrey Jambo Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Let me get this right, in an effort to safeguard the club, they are charging Aberdeen fans more for tickets? And ensuring that Aberdeen fans pay more when they go to Glasgow for games? Am I reading that correctly? If so then Aberdeen have fecked over their own. The way I read it is different. SPL rules forbid charging away fans more than home fans for the same seats. BUT if Aberdeen put all the OF fans in one stand then they can price differentiate to their heart's content. So the OF fans pay extra for their tickets and Aberdeen get the same money as before. Therefore OF fans pay their clubs for the admin charge. When Aberdeen play in Glasgow, the OF can't charge them more unless they give them a whole stand. So the only people who lose out are the OF fans. Their clubs are charging them more for the pleasure of watching their teams play away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 The deal is, that the South Stand tickets will be ?1 more expensive for Category A games (Rangers and Celtic only). The ?1 can then be redeemed against a category B game. Effectively Hun and Whore FC fans will have to pay the 5%. Everyones a winner except the OF fans and some AFC fans that can only be ersed to go to the "big" games. AFC was quite explicit that it would charge the OF 5% but no-one else for distribution of tickets to our fans. That's shocking! Bain will be "incredulous"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONis Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Aberdeen have played a blinder on this. Not only have they pushed the 5% back onto the OF fans, they've also added a small incitement to "glory hunters" to go to a category B game. The bit I've liked best is, that they've made it clear to the bigot brothers that they want a reciprocal 5% from them (and explicitly only them) in order to handle distribution of tickets to AFC fans for games at the Tattiedome and the Govan Shytyard. Hun and Whore FC's will now have to either swallow the 5% or change the pricing for their much larger stands Well done to the gruesome twosome, I say. Yours aDONis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordie1968 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 knock a couple of quid of the tickets and maybe utd and dons would sell out against hearts and hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrey Jambo Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 It's on the BBC site now and in much plainer English - easier for me to understand, anyway. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aberdeen/7547330.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 It has to be said, well done Aberdeen FC. Genius on their part, and if the rest of the SPL follow suit then we can consider this a victory for the decent small clubs fighting for their living. GIRUYOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 It has to be said, well done Aberdeen FC. Genius on their part, and if the rest of the SPL follow suit then we can consider this a victory for the decent small clubs fighting for their living. GIRUYOF i agree,well done Aberdeen. This was never about money but about the OF wanting to abdicate any responsibility for their fans when they indulge in a bigotfest/IRAfest ate away grounds. Dundee Utd should have done the same,and so should we and out manouvre them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Done them up like a kipper there I was disappointed in this pair of 'cavers' at first but that's a stonking reposte Not sure why United didnt try it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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