Ryan Gosling Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 http://sport.scotsman.com/football/34A-lot-of-these-players.4328833.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Any idea who wrote that piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Ewan Smith I think. Same article is in the Herald. http://www.sundayherald.com/sport/shfootball/display.var.2410474.0.laszlo_lays_into_lazy_players.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 http://sport.scotsman.com/football/34A-lot-of-these-players.4328833.jp Wonder who he might be talking about. I have one player in mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mact Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Good article but he will probably be sacked for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 "But if you don't have success you can't cry out all of the time for money. A lot of people say bad things about Mr Romanov but maybe the biggest mistake he has made is putting a lot of money in the club and he hasn't got anything back. "He must change his attitude and we must look right now at which characters deserve the money. We can give players a good salary but for the bonuses and success they must work very hard. This is a professional way of working and we must take this direction for everyone at the club. I know it's the same for me, if we don't have success I know what happens ? I must look for a new job. Oh no he di'int! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicker Man Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Iva?kevičius - no more K?anavičius - no more...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Wonder who he might be talking about. I have one player in mind... Methinks Kingston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Ewan Smith I think. Same article is in the Herald. http://www.sundayherald.com/sport/shfootball/display.var.2410474.0.laszlo_lays_into_lazy_players.php It's just that quite a lot of what Csaba is quoted as saying reminds me of a conversation I had with a Romanian civil servant many years ago - and because of this the article has an almost eerie sense of authenticity about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Methinks Kingston. Possibly, but not he ne I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Iva?kevičius - no moreK?anavičius - no more...... Not sure they're lazy. Just Scheidt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sconnie Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Possibly, but not he ne I was thinking of. I'll go for Christian Nade. I'd say he's talking about Michael Stewart aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Not sure they're lazy. Just Scheidt. Itchy's lazy. Scratchy's pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I'll go for Christian Nade. I'd say he's talking about Michael Stewart aswell. That's the one that sprung to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Rock Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Up 'til now the Sgt. Rock Jury on Csaba was yet to reach a verdict. It still is, of course, from a playing/results perspective, but by 'eck the boy appears to have well and truly nailed one of the fundamental problems at the club in a very short space of time. If allowed to follow this through (and that's a big 'if', obviously....) Csaba may yet provide the root and branch upheaval that the club so desperately needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Remember that he has said "And a lot of these people ? not all ? are lazy" before claiming that he is only talking about Nade or any other player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 He doesn't sound ****edd off to me, more enthused about equating his upbringing and experiences with his philosophy which is a strangely capitalist one given his roots. He'll have been savvy enough to have VR agreeing with him before coming out with this, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Remember Romanov's at the camp with them. He was probably at the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Ewing Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I like what he says. Possibly enough to kiss him. Not on the lips, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 the good thing is that Csaba is sensible in what he says i.e. about romanov. He puts it that romanov has put so much money into these players yet they have given very little in return. It is almost Csaba saying to Vlad, in the past you choose players and they gave very little for the money you paid them, give me the chance to pick the players and I will give you players who will perform for the money you give them, prehaps more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paws (FTH) Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I'll go for Christian Nade. I'd say he's talking about Michael Stewart aswell. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 the good thing is that Csaba is sensible in what he says i.e. about romanov. He puts it that romanov has put so much money into these players yet they have given very little in return. It is almost Csaba saying to Vlad, in the past you choose players and they gave very little for the money you paid them, give me the chance to pick the players and I will give you players who will perform for the money you give them, prehaps more. I agree. Everything we've heard from Csaba has been very encouraging so far. I'll still always be cautious given Romanov's track record with managers but this is the most optimistic I've been about Hearts for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjc2006 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 You have to admit he is totally right there was far too many quotes last season about how all the players are really nice guys, especially from and about Frail. I would rather have a bunch of players who were all arseholes but won thing than a bunch of players who are toothless and aren't willing to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Very different attitude from Branny + Copil when they were greetin about having to clean a few boots now and then. That still pi*ses me off just thinking about there wee moany faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamcow1 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 i am yet to read or hear one thing from csaba that isnt 100% correct. ok results are yet to happen so to early to say but he isnt striking me as the type of man who will...well allow failure to happen. mon the csaba!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Pretty strong words. I think he means one of the big earners at the club. Maybe Kingston or Nade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Up 'til now the Sgt. Rock Jury on Csaba was yet to reach a verdict. It still is, of course, from a playing/results perspective, but by 'eck the boy appears to have well and truly nailed one of the fundamental problems at the club in a very short space of time. If allowed to follow this through (and that's a big 'if', obviously....) Csaba may yet provide the root and branch upheaval that the club so desperately needs. My jury is still out as the job of football manager is all about results, Frail was also a nice guy after all. He has said everything right so far and IMO the above piece is the best and most important thing I have heard from him so far. We are now reading that the imposters that ruined last season, didn't care and didn't try will not be tolerated. Laszlo may not be the best tactician in the world, he may not have the most experience in the world but he MIGHT just turn out to be a masterstroke by VR. I will whisper it though, he hasn't done anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Ewan Smith I think. Same article is in the Herald. http://www.sundayherald.com/sport/shfootball/display.var.2410474.0.laszlo_lays_into_lazy_players.php And in the Sunday Mail http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/opinion/...8057-20672876/ http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22545 As I posted there: "Having worked in churches in Romania in the immediate aftermath of Ceausescu, he's not exaggerating in any way the misery in that country then. The more I hear from this man, the more I like him!!!" ............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Big fan of Shabba but the proof will be in the pudding! I have no doubt a cull is coming but lets wait and see if it's the right people who are booted and not the ones we'd rather see stay. Sounding good though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Lets be honest, he could be talking about any one of a multitude of players at our club. What he says about the money Romanov has paid them is also in part true. We have been paying huge salaries for very little in return. That for me is one of the problems. Give them a massive basic and where is the incentive. The money the club paid in wages in the likes of 86 was massive but only because the players performed. They earned the right to earn big. The current crop are paid handsomely and the vast majority have failed to deliver anything. That said its as much Romanov's fault as that of the players. We should be able to pay the right people a good wage with big incentives to perform. I like Csaba's words and way of thinking, I just hope he is allowed sufficient autonomy to try and rid the club of those who see us as a comfortable meal ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ilvery_Moon Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 He is absolutely bang on and it is something that is ingrained in modern British/Western culture. A lot of people think that life owes them a living and a good life. It has been very refreshing hearing the things Csaba has had to say so far. He certainly talks the talk, lets hope he can walk the walk too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Importantly in IMO, Czaba's giving Romanov a chance to reinvent himself in the eyes of the fans. The statements from our manager criticising VR are really a disguised compliment. For a long time the press and the majority of the fans assumed that VR was the main cause of the problem. It now appears it's a bit more complex than that. I hope CL can use the developing bond with VR to gain his trust to make the necessary changes. Things are definitely looking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Csaba Laszlo: I salute you. Buffalo Bill . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Good article but he will probably be sacked for this i,m thinking the same thing , i dont think it will have earned him brownie points even though he is spot on . I am liking this guys attitude more and more each day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 My jury is still out as the job of football manager is all about results, Frail was also a nice guy after all. He has said everything right so far and IMO the above piece is the best and most important thing I have heard from him so far. We are now reading that the imposters that ruined last season, didn't care and didn't try will not be tolerated. Laszlo may not be the best tactician in the world, he may not have the most experience in the world but he MIGHT just turn out to be a masterstroke by VR. I will whisper it though, he hasn't done anything yet. Agree totally Alan. When he speaks he always sounds very positive, logical and accurate, but unfortunately HMFC are not competing in the Scottish Debating Society, we compete in the Scottish Premier League, and all the speaking in the world will be a waste of time if we fail to convert it into actions on the park. On this occasion it could well be a super ploy by him to say, without openly appearing to be critical, that in his opinion he would make a better job of bringing in players than Romanov has done, but again only time will tell. I do like the fact that he rates Ronaldinho, although suspect if he had tabs on him we may have lost out to AC Milan in that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Let's be honest folks it's not just one player it's several players all of the above probably and a few more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Jambo Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 "I don't need a Porsche to show off to people that I am rich. I feel rich in my knowledge, in my soul and in my heart. These are things that no one can ever take from me." Loved this bit! Nade take note... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton 3 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Although I agree with what Csaba is saying but I wonder about the wisdom of berating players in the press. If they need a boot up the backside then fine, but do it behind closed doors. He started off when he arrived rightly saying that players will be working hard and have a higher work ethic installed. That should have been enough said on that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Deeds Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Although I agree with what Csaba is saying but I wonder about the wisdom of berating players in the press. If they need a boot up the backside then fine, but do it behind closed doors. He started off when he arrived rightly saying that players will be working hard and have a higher work ethic installed. That should have been enough said on that matter. Normally I would agree, but we really do have a load of worthless workshy crap in the squad & someone needed to tell them. At least he seems to have the same opinion as most of us, hopefully he can add a couple of decent players & make the team competitive again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Although I agree with what Csaba is saying but I wonder about the wisdom of berating players in the press. If they need a boot up the backside then fine, but do it behind closed doors. He started off when he arrived rightly saying that players will be working hard and have a higher work ethic installed. That should have been enough said on that matter. So saying nothing and allowing things to fester to the point of your user name is the way to go? I have to disagree I believe he will also being saying to their faces and this way he is keeping us informed. He saying what we all think is he not? Obviously we'll have to wait and see how he pans out as our manager but he certainly has said a lot of good things so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Normally I would agree, but we really do have a load of worthless workshy crap in the squad & someone needed to tell them. At least he seems to have the same opinion as most of us, hopefully he can add a couple of decent players & make the team competitive again. I agree. We'll see how this pans out but it's an encouraging start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Perhaps he realised that the problem was deeper than he initially thought, or that his words and actions weren't having the desired effect. Whatever the reason may be, Csaba's nailed his colours to the mast in a mightily impressive way, and we've been crying out for that for a long time. All power to his boot. Although I agree with what Csaba is saying but I wonder about the wisdom of berating players in the press. If they need a boot up the backside then fine, but do it behind closed doors. He started off when he arrived rightly saying that players will be working hard and have a higher work ethic installed. That should have been enough said on that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 This man just gets more positive every time i read about him.He talks so much sense and has lots of credible experience,you just get the feeling we can only go up the way with him in charge as long as everyones supports him. Great to see his statement about players being very well paid and not having to work to hard,to many of them at tynecastle! the guilty ones will be sorted sooner rather than later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upthehill Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 He doesn't sound ****edd off to me, more enthused about equating his upbringing and experiences with his philosophy which is a strangely capitalist one given his roots. Nothing strange about him being capitalist despite his roots. Folks who grew up under socialist/communist regimes see the evil of left wing appression and naturally embrace capitalism. Even in his article that comes across, realising the small differences between between left & right such as streetlights 24/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Csaba so far seems to know where problems on the footballing side are. Does not come across as ****ed off to me, more passionate about wanting the best for the club and the squad of players he has to work with. I get the impression that Csaba will be a loyal guy to a player if he rates him and the players gives Csaba an honest days graft. Romanov should be purring at this new found attitutde at the club. Who knows how Romanov takes these words, thats a hard one to call. As for who the playerhe is talking about, IMO he was talking about several and the attitude they have to their trade. Its very early days, and he has a hell of a lot of hard work in front of him - but so far so good from me on Csaba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobbo Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I keep waiting for something terrible to happen, such has been the way of the last couple of years, but every time I read another interview from Csaba I feel more optimistic that, finally, we might have a manager who is able to coach the playing squad and interact with Romanov in a manner that both pleases and educates. Whilst I've not let my guard down yet, and probably won't until he's served a full year in charge, should that event occur, I do feel like the club is emerging from a few rounds of being battered, after a storming first round when the opponents were floored a couple of times, refreshed and ready to take up the fight once more. I'd like to see words backed up with action, and these 'lazy' players contracts cancelled and their places in the squad filled by hungry, quality, youngsters or experienced players looking for a chance to better themselves without commanding top bracket wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Nothing strange about him being capitalist despite his roots. Folks who grew up under socialist/communist regimes see the evil of left wing appression and naturally embrace capitalism. Even in his article that comes across, realising the small differences between between left & right such as streetlights 24/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 For all we slag Romanov for meddling in team affairs i don`t think for one minute he`d accept players sponging off him. Ha, you may be laughing at that because we know fine well it`s been going on for two seasons now, but maybe Csaba is someone he`ll listen too and take heed? If Romanov is a driven guy then he should act on the advice of Csaba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton 3 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 So saying nothing and allowing things to fester to the point of your user name is the way to go? I didnt say that. If players need to be sorted out then sort them out, but not in the public domain. Csaba himself has said that everyone at Hearts should be "Together". So blabbing to the papers on this issue makes a bit of a mockery of that stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 he could be talking about 5-6 players here Larry,Nade,Audrey,the Bullet,Miko(at times). Cant honestly say the I would put Stewart in the lazy catagory,he did put in some great shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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