alwaysthereinspirit Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 McGregor plays for Rangers. simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Goram in Hun bias shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Goram's a wino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSWH Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Has the fat clown ever seen them both play sober or was he too busy beating his wife.typical Hun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 The sad fact is that Goram has become so tied up in his loyalist Rangers persona he developed after he left Hibs that he can't help himself. He should stick to being in caravans in womens undies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Isn't Goram an alcoholic? Just typical. McCant has nearly 1 good half a season (let's forget all the flaps at crosses) and he should be number 1. Typical OF arrogance. On a completely different tangent, what exactly did Clyde gain from playing 3 old crocks in a pre-season friendly last night when they should be trying to get a team together to not get relegated this season? I despise the OF and their arrogant associates with a passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 The sad fact is that Goram has become so tied up in his loyalist Rangers persona he developed after he left Hibs that he can't help himself. He should stick to being in caravans in womens undies. Now there's a line you don't see every day... Two Andy Gorams! There's only two Andy Gorams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 The sooner Goram does "a gazza" the better. Fat loyalist pwick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Why? He is another one of these muppets who have a lobotomy when they play for the Ibrox low life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallschunkychicken Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 This is from the guy that made an official complaint at Ibrox, because when you press the button to call the lift, the button lit up, and the backlighting was green. Not to mention the caravan incident, and the paramilitary flag incident. And the Billy Wright black armband.... To say that his attitude is coloured by all things Rangers is putting it mildly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 There does seem to be something of a bandwagon though for McGregor over Gordon. It is unbelievable when you consider their relative qualities though. Would always choose Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I think the more pertinent question is why are the media asking a) him and now. Bit of time since either have played competitive football and a chance to colour the imagination somewhat? Bandwagon is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 The sad fact is that Goram has become so tied up in his loyalist Rangers persona he developed after he left Hibs that he can't help himself. In a nutshell. His (paid) attendance at Supporters Functions as a speaker etc. is a nice earner and aids him in his fight to drink as much alcohol as possible. A horrible human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 In a nutshell. His (paid) attendance at Supporters Functions as a speaker etc. is a nice earner and aids him in his fight to drink as much alcohol as possible. A horrible humen being. I would be interested to know that with him being an outsider what is his opinion on the human race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Jambo Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I think Goram is right Mcgregor is NOW a better keeper than Gordon .Gordon doesn,t play for Hearts anymore so why are most people on this thread getting their knickers in a twist about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Which one was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbank2 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'll keep saying it. Another example of the carrion (and I mean the press) picking at the diseased torso of the bloated beast that is the old firm. They use the resulting scraps to fill their column inches, further poisoning the empty, deluded minds of their followers. Andy Goram is but a dumb patsy in this episode, a mere morsel used to feed the unquenchable greed of the OF and their hack parasites. For what it's worth, AM is a very good goalkeeper and Scotland is lucky to have them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashishere Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I think Goram is right Mcgregor is NOW a better keeper than Gordon .Gordon doesn,t play for Hearts anymore so why are most people on this thread getting their knickers in a twist about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I think Goram is right Mcgregor is NOW a better keeper than Gordon .Gordon doesn,t play for Hearts anymore so why are most people on this thread getting their knickers in a twist about it In which area I still give consistency, shot stopping, experience, kicking, size and attitude to Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Goram is a drunken oaf. I wouldn't trust his opinion on whether it was day or night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I think Goram is right Mcgregor is NOW a better keeper than Gordon .Gordon doesn,t play for Hearts anymore so why are most people on this thread getting their knickers in a twist about it Utter tripe!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 In which area I still give consistency, shot stopping, experience, kicking, size and attitude to Gordon. McGregor is far better at kicking than Gordon, but out of what you have listed, that is about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 So he's still hitting the booze pretty hard then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallschunkychicken Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I think Goram is right Mcgregor is NOW a better keeper than Gordon .Gordon doesn,t play for Hearts anymore so why are most people on this thread getting their knickers in a twist about it You are joking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 A horrible human being. True.... Which is a shame - cos in his day, he was a damned good keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondejamtart Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I especially liked Goram's argument that McGregor "doesn't make mistakes"...hmm, should've gone to Specsavers, I reckon, Andy, because I've seen him make more than a few! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I especially liked Goram's argument that McGregor "doesn't make mistakes"...hmm, should've gone to Specsavers, I reckon, Andy, because I've seen him make more than a few! Yup, he made more than a few when we pumped them 4-2. Er, good effort at saving from Ivaskevicus...NOT! I thought McGregor when he was under pressure at Dunfermline was truly awful (he threw in at least one a game against us). It remains to be seen if this lad is going to be a one season wonder in the mould of Paul Gallacher, Jamie Langfield etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffundo Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I have watched Mcgregor over that last year os so and he has vastly improved. I think right now he probably sheds it for me. I think he is marginaly a safer keeper than Gordon. not much between them but you can see mcregor has improved imenssley while craig has been steady over a number of years. it's all good for Scotland though to have two top keepers and there is no doubt that they are top keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassy Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I think Mcgregor is a decent keeper but would rather have Gordon as no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 As Gordon is no longer an Hearts player I don't really care. However it has to be said that Goram is not noted for his good judgement and as long as Burley is in charge at Scotland I don't think Gordon will lose his place. I'm sure that as soon as Burley goes and is replaced by one of the "Largs mafia", then Gordon will be papped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I think Goram is right Mcgregor is NOW a better keeper than Gordon .Gordon doesn,t play for Hearts anymore so why are most people on this thread getting their knickers in a twist about it I see you are one of these people with an IQ the same as their shoe size. Gordon could play for East Stirling and he would still be a better goalkeeper than Alan MacGregor. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flogel98 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Lets have it right. AM plays for a big team, rarley under pressure in a pub league. CG plays for a smaller club (no disrespect to the mackims) in one of the toughtest leagues in the world. When AM can play at the same level as CG week in week out against the level of opposition, you can compare them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 McGregor is not anywhere near the level of Gordon. McGregor is a disaster waiting to happen with any kind of ball across his box - Lyons first goal at Ibrox is a prime example. Most of his so called great saves, such as the one from a Ronaldinho free kick at Ibrox, are comfortable saves but he arches his back and flicks up his legs to make them look good for the camera. Gordon had a bit of a dip in form at Sunderland but he is playing in a league where the efforts at goal are much more accurate and hit a lot firmer. He was also behind an absolute shambles of a defense. However, he grew in confidence and by the end of season he was back to his brilliant best, for example the when he kept Wigan out single handedly - did Andy Gray not even say he was the best keeper in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop1874 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'd imagine goram was drunk at the time (probably is drunk just now as well) daft comment to make as Mcgregor has only really been on form this season where as Gordon has beeen consistent for years now. Mcgregor is better at coming out for crosses but Gordon doesn't really have to bother as he will most likely save any shot that comes as a result of the cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arron69jay Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Goram is full of it "Who can remember the last time chucked one into the net? He just doesn't make mistakes" So his sign of a good keeper is not throwing it into his own net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samster Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Why? Because he's a fat, hun boozebag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gorgie kev Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Goram is a toothless fat alky who wallows in his own pesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markletissier Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 goram likes watchin folk have sex in cars, nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudiskacel06 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Mcgregor is a thug, we seen the evidence in the game we humped rangers 4-2 when he tried to kung foo kick elliot,where was mcgregor and his fantastic saves that day??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'd sooner listen to Malofeeve talk about training methods than Goram talk about, well anything!!! Dirty, Hun, Alcoholic, Wife-beating, Loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'd imagine goram was drunk at the time (probably is drunk just now as well) daft comment to make as Mcgregor has only really been on form this season where as Gordon has beeen consistent for years now. Mcgregor is better at coming out for crosses but Gordon doesn't really have to bother as he will most likely save any shot that comes as a result of the cross. Just because you come out for crosses, doesn't necessarily you are a good cross taker. Someone mentioned Lyon in another thread. I can also recall Murphy scoring one off the back of his head at Ibrox with McGregor in no man's land. Even in probably his finest hour (Bremen away) he was very lucky on at least 2 occassions that Bremen didn't take advantage of extremely poor judgement, and ability at crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Lets have it right. AM plays for a big team, rarley under pressure in a pub league. CG plays for a smaller club (no disrespect to the mackims) in one of the toughtest leagues in the world. When AM can play at the same level as CG week in week out against the level of opposition, you can compare them. MacGregor played in the CL last season and also UEFA cup. Sorry but surely that is a higher standard than playing v Wigan, Fulham, Derby and Birmingham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 MacGregor played in the CL last season and also UEFA cup. Sorry but surely that is a higher standard than playing v Wigan, Fulham, Derby and Birmingham? True. But McGregor had a 9-man defence in front of him, and the Sunderland defence is the poorest part of their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 MacGregor played in the CL last season and also UEFA cup. Sorry but surely that is a higher standard than playing v Wigan, Fulham, Derby and Birmingham? There's lots of other crap goalies played in European games. Brian Wilson is one that jumps out at me for some nightmarish reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five to One Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Might turn into a difficult choice this which is good for Scotland especially if one or the other gets injured. I think CG's a better shot stopper, but AM shades him on presence in the box and on crosses. Right now though I'd stick with CG until/if he has a howler or his confidence dips. It's a shame the press in Scotland takes a negative view on anything positive to do with the national team. Rather than have an idiot like Andy Goram spouting off, it could have been an article on how Scotland continues to produce world class goalkeepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacBaker Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 MacGregor played in the CL last season and also UEFA cup. Sorry but surely that is a higher standard than playing v Wigan, Fulham, Derby and Birmingham? And what about Arsenal, Man united, Chelsea, Tottenham, Everton, Portsmouth, Liverpool etc? Are they not better than the strikers who couldnt score past rangers defenders, all 8 of them. The premier league is a 38 game competition, and teams go for it gung-ho. In the uefa cup teams are more concerned with sitting back so as not to concede. Rangers had very little to deal with throughout the UEFA until the final. Gordon had 10+ shots to deal with every week, without much protection from a hopeless defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 And what about Arsenal, Man united, Chelsea, Tottenham, Everton, Portsmouth, Liverpool etc? Are they not better than the strikers who couldnt score past rangers defenders, all 8 of them. The premier league is a 38 game competition, and teams go for it gung-ho. In the uefa cup teams are more concerned with sitting back so as not to concede. Rangers had very little to deal with throughout the UEFA until the final. Gordon had 10+ shots to deal with every week, without much protection from a hopeless defence. That would suggest then European football is better experience for international football than the helter skelter of the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk and Chance Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 That would suggest then European football is better experience for international football than the helter skelter of the premiership. straight from the horse's mouth;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallan Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 MacGregor played in the CL last season and also UEFA cup. Sorry but surely that is a higher standard than playing v Wigan, Fulham, Derby and Birmingham? Out of the last four teams in the CL, 3 were from the EPL, so how can you say the CL is a higher standard, stick to munchin grass.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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