Rawrrrrrrr Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 How is it going hit the OF in the pocket? Don't the home team get all the money anyway? The OF never had the 5% last year and don't make any money from selling away tickets so they aren't losing anything. As for Falkirk selling to local fans all that is happening is that there is a special match voucher in the Falkirk Herald which anyone can buy, that is the "local preference". They won't be going through adresses or anything to give priority and also won't be taking the money until a ticket is issued. You may do well to check the facts before posting as you sound just like one of the bigots you so despise. Its going to hit them in the pocket as they pass on charges for applying etc and being part of their balloting process, if clubs take this away from them they lose that money Not to mention they probably have factored this 5% into their budgets already expecting everyone to bend over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemicalJambo Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Maybe I am reading too much into it but I think they might be using this as a means of shirking responsibility for travelling fans. If Rangers/Celtic fans are banned from away grounds the clubs can then turn round and say "wasn't us that banned you, it was the club who sold you the tickets". Lets just ask them for a list of supporters they approve us to sell to. We can amend it as we see fit. Give it to Ticketmaster, get them to do the lot, registered mail delivery of tickets etc. All admin costs get charged to the weegies. Will probably cost an extra ?10 a ticket, feck 'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdog35 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Its going to hit them in the pocket as they pass on charges for applying etc and being part of their balloting process, if clubs take this away from them they lose that money Not to mention they probably have factored this 5% into their budgets already expecting everyone to bend over My Brother in law is a weegie *** ******* and he tells me they get charged ?1 per transaction already as a handling charge from Rangers on away tickets so whether or not that covers the admin or not i don't know as there is apparently a lot of man hours that go into running ballots etc. Seems strange that the OF would take this action as they must have known it was doomed to failure and even stranger that the OF are joining forces on this one considering what happened last season. I think poster who said that the OF were trying to shirk responsibility for their fans might have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 You can just about read the thoughts of the steward back right; "There is no fekin way i'm going near that!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Jings red letter day indeed a positive prancer posts and I find myself agreeing with him! Hope thta every club follows Falkirk's lead and starts a register of "AWAY BIGOT BROTHERS so called fans" it could be followed up with charges for dmages and , if rquired, banning orders. Maybe the gruesome twosome are trying to abdicate responsibilty for the pond life that supports them but how long till the more affluent, notwitstnading therapits' illogical yet predictable bias, of there away support start to moan to the clubs themselves re always missing out. Sell direct , keep a proper database and pass ALL costs onto those buying it is the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Good point. I'd think that if it ever did come to home clubs selling to of fans, certain criteria would be laid down, for example of fans may be asked to verify that they are official mebers of the of 'away' support as registered with the appropriate of club - alternatively they could be asked to verify their personal details with the selling club, and if there was any bothther, or damage then they could be barred by the home club. I'd also strictly enforce a one ticket only sale criteria, and ensure that only the minimum number required were made available. I think it's not too difficult, you get them to bring formal ID such as a passport. (hmmm might be a problem you don't need a passport to go to Blackpool) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ross Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Hate to give them any credit but fair play to Falkirk. These b******* think they are Scottish football. The pair off them are basically a partnership that no-one should fall for. **** is too nice a phrase for them. Remember where the name 'Old Firm' came from. As for any of the ****s that live in OUR city......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardJT Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Another example of how ****my the OF are!! Can I ask why we don't like falkirk very much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mundojambo Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 we should do the same as falkirk, sell them ourselves. We should make them go to one of the mobile ticket booth things, put it in a place with no parking for miles, put one person on to sell tickets and only open it for a few hours. After a few games with next to no away support we can justify cutting their allocation to one section. WE SHOULD TAKE EVRY POSSIBLE CHANCE TO SHAFT THESE ****S!!!! god know they deserve it. get the catering staff to sell their tickets, that would guarantee a small away support on the days that the ugly sisters come to visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Another example of how ****my the OF are!! Can I ask why we don't like falkirk very much? Do you need a reason? The fact that falkirk is in the middle of nowhere its too near to glasgow the fact that they have a dumbass hobo as a manager the crappy wee half finished stadium that they dont even own. their previous staduim was a dump i'd love grangemouth to blow up because that ****hole would be 1st to be blown away *** them & their fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I think the sfa.spl had allocated 5 or 10 % to away fans on matchday & %20 on a cup day? if falkirk are the 1st club to do it then IMO everyone should follow suit & shaft these greedy, weegie, dirty, unwashed, mhanky, smelly, creetin, giro loving, wear tops from 1970's, cant afoard a new one, glory hunting barstewards for everything we possibaly can the OF make my blood boil & their glory hunting fans are just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Rough figures here so bare with me 5% of a ?30 ticket = ?1.50 per ticket 3000 tickets x ?1.50 = ?4500 per game 20 games per season (away) = ?90,000 per annum How much do they pay their admin staff FFS Bye Bye NHS hello Ibrox admin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Rough figures here so bare with me5% of a ?30 ticket = ?1.50 per ticket 3000 tickets x ?1.50 = ?4500 per game 20 games per season (away) = ?90,000 per annum How much do they pay their admin staff FFS Bye Bye NHS hello Ibrox admin! Who in the SPL charges ?30 a ticket? o dont think the OF even charge that much. the most expensive ticket ive been charged for a League game was ?28 for Easter road. DO the OF charge us ?30 for the privlage of getting spat,****ed on & cups thrown at us at their stadia? if that is the case, utter respect to all that goes. feek that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werwolf Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Whilst applauding Falkirks stance on this issue, my concern is that the OF will do the same to visiting fans meaning us having to apply via them for tickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 This has nothing to do with costs. The OF are colluding to escape any punishment for the behaviour of their moron fans at away grounds. They will argue that they had no control over selling the tickets if other clubs AS THEY WANT take the same attitude as Falkirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Surely if clubs follow Falkirk's lead there will be a database collected of away OF fans names and addresses? This info can be passed between the other 10 clubs in the SPL so that any of the vermin thrown out a stadium NEVER gets another ticket for an SPL game ever again? Also, the OF allocation is to supporters groups is it not, so they have no way of knowing EXACTLY who gets a ticket, therefore they cannot truly identify anyone in an away ground who gets ejected for singing folk songs. With home clubs having names and addresses for every OF fan sitting in every seat in their stadium not only can the police do them while in the ground, but on reviewing CCTV footage after the game they can call round during the week and pay them a wee visit as well. Can't really see a downside to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 This has nothing to do with costs.The OF are colluding to escape any punishment for the behaviour of their moron fans at away grounds. They will argue that they had no control over selling the tickets if other clubs AS THEY WANT take the same attitude as Falkirk. Sorry, but you are wrong They already have no responsibility for thier away fans The home team gets hammered by the beaks for any misdemeanors in thier grounds- end of, even if perpetrated by away fans, so I cannot see how this would change anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Sorry, but you are wrongThey already have no responsibility for thier away fans The home team gets hammered by the beaks for any misdemeanors in thier grounds- end of, even if perpetrated by away fans, so I cannot see how this would change anything Exactly. All those mischievous types who dress up in their colours for an afternoon's neddishness are simply trying to tarnish their good name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Sorry, but you are wrongThey already have no responsibility for thier away fans The home team gets hammered by the beaks for any misdemeanors in thier grounds- end of, even if perpetrated by away fans, so I cannot see how this would change anything You are correct in terms of pitch invasions etc,however wrong in terms of bigotted chanting Hearts were almost in trouble at Motherwell ,and The Tims at Inverness for dodgy songs. The GFA do hold clubs responsible for the behaviour of their fans home or away,there were no actions last season because there was no definition of what was banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 You are correct in terms of pitch invasions etc,however wrong in terms of bigotted chantingHearts were almost in trouble at Motherwell ,and The Tims at Inverness for dodgy songs. The GFA do hold clubs responsible for the behaviour of their fans home or away,there were no actions last season because there was no definition of what was banned. Have there been any changes to these definitions though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Have there been any changes to these definitions though? I have said this before and I will say it again. The first club to be done over bigotted singing will be Hearts. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Just wanted to make one point. There is no such thing as an affluent sellik fhan. They are all vermin who survive on state hand outs, thievery and raking through bins. Fact. Rangers fans are also vermin. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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