Hallkett/ Boyce

[robbojambo]

Anybody else see half time warm ups, those 2 and Kingsley talking to, think it was GMS on half way line, hearts physio (not a fan by the way), shouted to get over to start warm up, Kingsley went over but they 2 dissed the physio, as if to say we will decide, waited until they were ready and when eventually went over had a wee laugh to thereselves, maybe not THE problem but certainly a part of it 

[jr ewing]

Maybe knew they wouldn't be playing. 

[Dsjambo]

GMS still making money from football is incredible, another expensive waste of space when he was with us.

[Pasquale for King]

53 minutes ago, Dsjambo said:

GMS still making money from football is incredible, another expensive waste of space when he was with us.

Cost less than Boyce and Halkett have.

[Dsjambo]

9 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Cost less than Boyce and Halkett have.

That’s true but at least they made a contribution until their injuries, GMS was less effective than McKay is now and that’s being kind.

[Gambo]

Allegedly they have had cross words with Critchley.

[The Maroon Jacket]

We can't even warm up properly, no wonder players get injured 

[tartofmidlothian]

3 minutes ago, Gambo said:

Allegedly they have had cross words with Critchley.

 

Why?

[Bad Religion]

12 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said:

 

Why?

Scared of hard work probably. 

[ToadKiller Dog]

To think Halkett was on the cusp of a Scotland career ,now just a lump taking up a space on the bench . 

Boyce is done .

The two are offering the square root of nothing at this time .

Need a good look at themselves .

 

 

 

[kingantti1874]

Not sure I believe the cross words with Critchley. But if so they shouldn’t be in the squad. I don’t believe they would be in the squad 

[kingantti1874]

1 minute ago, ToadKiller Dog said:

To think Halkett was on the cusp of a Scotland career ,now just a lump taking up a space on the bench . 

Boyce is done .

The two are offering the square root of nothing at this time .

Need a good look at themselves .

 

 

 

honestky, I’m surprised we haven’t seen more of him.  Probably one of our better player at st mirren away.  Was just starting to look like he was on the right path 

[DS98]

2 minutes ago, ToadKiller Dog said:

To think Halkett was on the cusp of a Scotland career ,now just a lump taking up a space on the bench . 

Boyce is done .

The two are offering the square root of nothing at this time .

Need a good look at themselves .

 

 

 

They’ve both had fairly recent ACL injuries. They need games to get fit, they’re not afforded any game time because of the predicament their shite team mates have put us in. And on the other hand the club have also failed to bring in replacements for them. 
 

So we have 2 fairly high paid unfit players, with no intention on getting them match fit and no one better. I fail to see how it’s the players at fault here. 

[ToadKiller Dog]

Just now, DS98 said:

They’ve both had fairly recent ACL injuries. They need games to get fit, they’re not afforded any game time because of the predicament their shite team mates have put us in. And on the other hand the club have also failed to bring in replacements for them. 
 

So we have 2 fairly high paid unfit players, with no intention on getting them match fit and no one better. I fail to see how it’s the players at fault here. 

You have to earn your place ,getting fit is the players own responsibility .

New manager you should be busting a gut to get picked,  are they ?

[Ricardo Quaresma]

13 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

honestky, I’m surprised we haven’t seen more of him.  Probably one of our better player at st mirren away.  Was just starting to look like he was on the right path 

 

I don't get it either; it's like someone has black-balled Halkett since SN, FM & GF left

 

 

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Edited October 31, 2024 by Ricardo Quaresma
bloody autocorrect, why would I write 'ballet'? lol

[We_are_the_Hearts]

Wankers the 2 of them. They know they are on borrowed time, fitness is an embarrassment for a pro footballer. The fans have been too good to some of these players for too long

[DS98]

3 minutes ago, ToadKiller Dog said:

You have to earn your place ,getting fit is the players own responsibility .

New manager you should be busting a gut to get picked,  are they ?

Commenting on their attitude is pure conjecture unless you are involved at the club. They will be fit. But as everyone should know there’s fit and match fit. 
 

Beni is an example of this. He came back from an identical injury and was pretty horseshit for a month or so. There were the usual shouts of he’s ‘finished’ from the moonhowlers on here. Given a run of games he’s back to his best. 
 

Players need games. 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

1 minute ago, We_are_the_Hearts said:

Wankers the 2 of them. They know they are on borrowed time, fitness is an embarrassment for a pro footballer. The fans have been too good to some of these players for too long

 

You saying Halkett's a fraud?

[kingantti1874]

3 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

I don't get it either; it's like someone has black-balled Halkett since SN, FM & GF left

 

 

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fox? 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

Just now, kingantti1874 said:

fox? 

 

Dunno, mate, seems sumbdy is, though

 

Like a few players, we'll need to wait and see what NC says, if anything

[Carter]

18 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

Not sure I believe the cross words with Critchley. But if so they shouldn’t be in the squad. I don’t believe they would be in the squad 

Surely not hard to believe that Critchley has observed some ****ing disgusting attitudes within the group. We've got 6 points from 33 for a reason. They seemed indifferent last night to yet another defeat. 

 

Place needs gutted.

[busbyfth]

39 minutes ago, Dsjambo said:

That’s true but at least they made a contribution until their injuries, GMS was less effective than McKay is now and that’s being kind.

Boyce hasnt really contributed for a good while, as even before his first main injury was off form and missing chance after chance/numerous penalties. 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

I thought Halkett was moving pretty fast in paisley, deffo fastest I have seen in a while

 

Wasn't the only one that commented on this

[Lovecraft]

A match fit Halkett is still the best defender we have at the club.

 

It's not his fault if he isn't getting enough games to get match fit FFS.

 

 

[We_are_the_Hearts]

Black balled himself as fat and slow. His arse is a disgrace for a pro footballer. Embarrassing

[kingantti1874]

3 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

I thought Halkett was moving pretty fast in paisley, deffo fastest I have seen in a while

 

Wasn't the only one that commented on this

nope you are right . 

[Australis]

12 hours ago, robbojambo said:

Anybody else see half time warm ups, those 2 and Kingsley talking to, think it was GMS on half way line, hearts physio (not a fan by the way), shouted to get over to start warm up, Kingsley went over but they 2 dissed the physio, as if to say we will decide, waited until they were ready and when eventually went over had a wee laugh to thereselves, maybe not THE problem but certainly a part of it 

Critchley made it clear he is learning about the players every game.

 

It won't have passed him or his coaches by. Boyce never coming off the bench.

 

Boyce has already been sussed by the looks of it.

 

Some will buy into Critchleys enthusiasm, others won't be here for long, so many need weeded out.

 

 

Edited October 31, 2024 by Australis

[Shooter McGavin]

Need to get both off the payroll asap.

 

Boyce is completely finished and wouldn’t even be picked up by a Championship team. Halkett might still have something to offer, but his body is shot to pieces, and you always feel like his knee or hamstring is going to go at any given moment.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

Just now, Lovecraft said:

A match fit Halkett is still the best defender we have at the club.

 

It's not his fault if he isn't getting enough games to get match fit FFS.

 

He's only 28, that's peak time, his leg's clearly healed

 

Frankie needs a rest and often has played with a knock, Rowles should swap him out next game after

 

We need to trust players such as Halkett and build the fitness and stamina

 

They've played too many, one or 2 have been well overplayed

[A_A wehatethehibs]

46 minutes ago, Dsjambo said:

That’s true but at least they made a contribution until their injuries, GMS was less effective than McKay is now and that’s being kind.

Walker, GMS, McKay don’t know what our obsession is with chicken hearted LWs 1 good game in 10 

[DS98]

1 minute ago, Lovecraft said:

A match fit Halkett is still the best defender we have at the club.

 

It's not his fault if he isn't getting enough games to get match fit FFS.

 

 

Correct. You’ve also got to say the same for Boyce. If the powers that be actually did their jobs in the summer Boyce would be 4th or 5th choice striker and only called upon if absolutely necessary. All whilst helping the likes of Wilson and Vargas develop. If that was the case no one would have a bad word to say about him.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

5 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said:

Black balled himself as fat and slow. His arse is a disgrace for a pro footballer. Embarrassing

 

I'm sure it was months ago you're referring to; last Season in fact

 

Rage fuelled agenda, hitting out at a guy that didn't even play

 

Aye, keep swinging

[A_A wehatethehibs]

1 minute ago, Australis said:

Critchley made it clear he is learning about the players every game.

 

It won't have passed him or his coaches by. Boyce never coming off the bench.

 

Boyce has already been sussed by the looks of it.

 

Some will buy into Crichleys enthusiasm, others won't be here for long, so many will be weeded out.

 

 

There’s probably a good chance neither of them will even get on the bench again. Just leave empty spots on the bench. 

[Lovecraft]

I think Halkett will start on Saturday.

 

Kent and Rowles just isn't working.

 

 

[We_are_the_Hearts]

1 minute ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

I'm sure it was months ago you're referring to; last Season in fact

 

Rage fuelled agenda, hitting out at a guy that didn't even play

 

Aye, keep swinging

So in our predicament you think it’s cool to be laughing and joking with oppo players at HT instead of doing the drills with the rest of your team incase your needed. Leading by example to our young subs?

[We_are_the_Hearts]

Just now, Lovecraft said:

I think Halkett will start on Saturday.

 

Kent and Rowles just isn't working.

 

 

What? Have you seen how quick the 2 Saints strikers are!!!

[Lovecraft]

1 minute ago, We_are_the_Hearts said:

What? Have you seen how quick the 2 Saints strikers are!!!

Doesn't matter.  We are losing goals from set pieces.

 

 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

Just now, We_are_the_Hearts said:

So in our predicament you think it’s cool to be laughing and joking with oppo players at HT instead of doing the drills with the rest of your team incase your needed. Leading by example to our young subs?

 

If that's true, he still never got on the pitch

 

If he was laughing, what do you think he was laughing about?

[Martin_T]

2 minutes ago, Lovecraft said:

I think Halkett will start on Saturday.

 

Kent and Rowles just isn't working.

 

 

 

I would be inclined to put Halkett in the middle of Kent and Rowles. He was brilliant in that position in 2021/22 with Souttar and Kingsley either side. 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

12 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Need to get both off the payroll asap.

 

Boyce is completely finished and wouldn’t even be picked up by a Championship team. Halkett might still have something to offer, but his body is shot to pieces, and you always feel like his knee or hamstring is going to go at any given moment.

 

Halkett has this Season and next; I agree about boyce, I think he has multiple issues and will certainly not be viable at this level again, he just wants to see his contract out and go

 

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Edited October 31, 2024 by Ricardo Quaresma

[We_are_the_Hearts]

3 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

If that's true, he still never got on the pitch

 

If he was laughing, what do you think he was laughing about?

So all our subs can just sit there and not be prepared if they don’t think they could have got on. Kent was almost off first half could easily have needed replaced after 46 mins. You know that’s not on but just arguing for the sake of it now

[Australis]

8 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

There’s probably a good chance neither of them will even get on the bench again. Just leave empty spots on the bench. 

Leave them training with the kids if that's their attitudes.

 

Let them rot due to lack of fitness so that nobody wants them.

 

They are both bad influences and

rancid, treat them like that.

 

Why should a coach be blanked while doing their job, because they don't care.

 

 

 

[Gordon Ramsay]

Stick Halkett upfront and play long ball. Might sound ridiculous but we'd probably create more chances doing that than our current sideways pass technique.

[Dsjambo]

17 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Walker, GMS, McKay don’t know what our obsession is with chicken hearted LWs 1 good game in 10 

Yep and usually on three year contracts as well 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

1 minute ago, We_are_the_Hearts said:

So all our subs can just sit there and not be prepared if they don’t think they could have got on. Kent was almost off first half could easily have needed replaced after 46 mins. You know that’s not on but just arguing for the sake of it now

 

I don't know anything, other than Halkett knew he wasn't coming on against Omonia, so he left before the end; he never stormed out, just left

 

I don't know what's going on exactly and neither do you

 

We'll just leave it there, bud, Ok? 👍

[gar jambo]

22 minutes ago, Lovecraft said:

A match fit Halkett is still the best defender we have at the club.

 

It's not his fault if he isn't getting enough games to get match fit FFS.

 

 

I have said that  to if Fit ! the year soutter went I would have been gutted if it was Halkett he had a tremendous season then ! He was never injured at live been unfortunate at hearts 

[soonbe110]

1 hour ago, Gambo said:

Allegedly they have had cross words with Critchley.

Probably been told they can find another club in January. 

[We_are_the_Hearts]

1 minute ago, soonbe110 said:

Probably been told they can find another club in January. 

Critchley is on record as watching every game this season. He will know they are not fit enough for top flight and European football. Hopefully this is the end of the old pals act. Some of these players are taking the piss and don’t deserve support.

 

[Chaps]

I’d drop Kent for Halkett right now.

 

Kent isn’t even half the player he was last season and the games Halkett has come in he’s done well.

[Hairybanjo]

Pre injury Halkett was a solid presence in that defence against balls in the air. Was also comfortable with the ball at his feet. Appeared to be vocal when things not going right. Exactly what we need now.