Gorgie ultras

[Boab]

42 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Do we even know if its them, or just folk attaching themselves to them?

 

Not difficult to stick on black jeans and a black hoodie and loiter near them. That doesn't make them part of the group, although almost certainly will tar them by association if these people are doing shit like bringing 1690 flags in. 

 

From my understanding, the group is a on a fairly tight leash with the board and I would be extremely, extremely surprised if any sectarianism is being push by any of them. 

 

They've been a positive within the ground, and I hope people don't just make lazy attacks on all of them because 1 or 2 people who we can't even be sure are associated with the group are being pricks. 

Hear hear !

They are a breath of fresh air. Football needs it more than at any time. If it’s organised and policed internally, it’s a good thing. Let’s not blacken, terrible pun, the whole movement.

[Ked]

6 minutes ago, Boab said:

Hear hear !

They are a breath of fresh air. Football needs it more than at any time. If it’s organised and policed internally, it’s a good thing. Let’s not blacken, terrible pun, the whole movement.

Also need young supporters to want to go.

Despite what I may think of the whole ultra thing they enjoy themselves.

And like me they will look back in fondness .

It's not only about the football or none of us would watch fekin Hearts .

😂

[Boab]

1 minute ago, Ked said:

Also need young supporters to want to go.

Despite what I may think of the whole ultra thing they enjoy themselves.

And like me they will look back in fondness .

It's not only about the football or none of us would watch fekin Hearts .

😂

Exactly. More youngsters going, and being involved in it, it’s a good thing for now, and in the future. 
 

[Paris 84]

39 minutes ago, Ked said:

Made a point of saying he's nothing to do with them?

 

Geese peace FFS 

Sorry, I’ve not aware of any statements saying he’s nothing to do with them. Where would they make a statement like that? Do they have a specific twitter account or something similar? 

[Pasquale for King]

2 minutes ago, Paris 84 said:

Sorry, I’ve not aware of any statements saying he’s nothing to do with them. Where would they make a statement like that? Do they have a specific twitter account or something similar? 

Yeah they have a twitter page, mostly for song lyrics.

[Pasquale for King]

50 minutes ago, Ked said:

It isn't.

And I haven't heard that from the ultras first hand.

I did witness men my age singing under a union flag and paedo songs directly at Celtic supporters .

It was cringe af mate and I hate Celtic and their support.

What I saw in and around the ground was mostly our age group indulging in this.

 

As for behaviour in general the ultras are nowhere in comparison to my youth.

And there's a few older posters who will gleefully post about those days that criticise the ultras.

 

 

I haven’t heard it either to be fair, but there has been enough anecdotal evidence from other fans. 
Of course it’s hypocritical of anyone over 40 to criticise them for singing these songs if they do, or for anything else when they sing these songs themselves. 
As long as they conduct themselves in a manner that separates them from other ultras they are to be encouraged. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

I remember the paggers in the middle 80s with Hearts and Hobbos / Aberdeen casuals . This isn’t the same really . Not keen on the songs sang but tend to forget it as usually concentrating on the match . Reminds me of the cringe of “ all the Hibbes are gay “ I heard it , but wasn’t screaming for people to stop singing it . It was just a cringe fest to me . 

[SectionN]

2 hours ago, Paris 84 said:

And has that hanger on been identified and the GU’s made a point of saying he’s nothing to do with them? If they have I missed that. The were certainly dozens of posters on here the day of the Hibs game pointing out he’s one of them.
 

Also for accuracy at no point did I say N or G were anything to do with the Ultras. I mearly pointed out that both sections were singing Hullo Hullo on Saturday night. Which I mentioned was denied as ever happening on the TIMS podcast. 

If the GU went over to the hanger on and said don’t sing a certain song and it results in a confrontation. You’d probably be the first on here to say hooligans/ban them etc.

 

GU can’t win with some fans. 

[Ked]

2 hours ago, Paris 84 said:

Sorry, I’ve not aware of any statements saying he’s nothing to do with them. Where would they make a statement like that? Do they have a specific twitter account or something similar? 

Why should they.

They're a bunch of daft Hearts supporting youngsters

[XB52]

3 hours ago, Sherbet said:

Nothing   but we can't have it both ways

What are you on about?? We are talking about sectarian behaviour at Hearts games. What the tartan army do has zero to do with the subject.

[TheGorgieMaroon]

6 hours ago, Taffin said:

Need to sort themselves out if the chat on here is true. Shame as I thought they've been a breath of fresh air at Tynecastle.

 

Their songs are pretty crap too in fairness, I assumed they'd get better ones in time but they're just the same one every year sings.

 

Well said. The songs are quite unimaginative and generally a bit crap.

 

6 hours ago, PapaShango said:

All for binning them they are a pain in the hole to be honest. Songs are cringe and last Saturday the song book was an embarrassment. Couple that with their crap flags that block the goals at the Gorgie stand and then emptying out the stadium when losing, they bring hee haw to the party and just a bunch of youths looking to look cool on social media. 

 

Nail on the head.

 

[The Gorgie]

Just now, TheGorgieMaroon said:

 

Well said. The songs are quite unimaginative and generally a bit crap.

 

 

 

And yet without them we would have about 3 songs to sing, as was the case for years. 

[Taffin]

3 minutes ago, The Gorgie said:

And yet without them we would have about 3 songs to sing, as was the case for years. 

 

Quality > quantity imo, particularly if it avoids just changing a generic Ultras chant you'd hear at Motherwell to include 'the Gorgie' somewhere in it.

 

Edit: just noticed your username, no offense meant by the above.

Edited November 30 by Taffin

[TheGorgieMaroon]

3 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Quality > quantity imo, particularly if it avoids just changing a generic Ultras chant you'd hear at Motherwell to include 'the Gorgie' somewhere in it.

 

Edit: just noticed your username, no offense meant by the above.

 

Agreed. 

[The Gorgie]

1 minute ago, Taffin said:

 

Quality > quantity imo, particularly if it avoids just changing a generic Ultras chant you'd hear at Motherwell to include 'the Gorgie' somewhere in it.

 

Edit: just noticed your username, no offense meant by the above.

I'll admit I don't know the words to every song they sing but there is some decent ones in there. The new song for Penrice is catchy.

[Thunder and Lightning]

I have just heard the Ultras started the Iraq war. 

 

Get out our club. 😂 

[The Real Maroonblood]

9 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

That was over 30 years ago, things have moved on.

Sadly some people still live in the past. 

[Gorgie_Rules]

9 hours ago, OTT said:

 

Do we even know if its them, or just folk attaching themselves to them?

 

Not difficult to stick on black jeans and a black hoodie and loiter near them. That doesn't make them part of the group, although almost certainly will tar them by association if these people are doing shit like bringing 1690 flags in. 

 

From my understanding, the group is a on a fairly tight leash with the board and I would be extremely, extremely surprised if any sectarianism is being push by any of them. 

 

They've been a positive within the ground, and I hope people don't just make lazy attacks on all of them because 1 or 2 people who we can't even be sure are associated with the group are being pricks. 

The guy with the 1690 flag is a prominent member of the group, his Twitter account suggests as much particularly after the news articles about it.

[gov]

20 minutes ago, Gorgie_Rules said:

The guy with the 1690 flag is a prominent member of the group, his Twitter account suggests as much particularly after the news articles about it.

And we can add them hitting a celtic fan in hospitality the other week and fighting with police when told to stop

[1874Jambo]

There times up, good experiment but it's starting to go wrong and it's better to wind it up now

[Chuck Berry]

10 hours ago, Sherbet said:

Re the 1690 flag   a bit like the tartan army with there remember Bannockburn and yes flags

 

😂

[ramrod]

1 minute ago, 1874Jambo said:

There times up, good experiment but it's starting to go wrong and it's better to wind it up now

Piss off 

They've been one of the only bright lights in an otherwise dreadful season.

 

[Nucky Thompson]

Leave the laddies alone FFS 

[Chuck Berry]

6 hours ago, XB52 said:

What are you on about?? We are talking about sectarian behaviour at Hearts games. What the tartan army do has zero to do with the subject.

 

That, and the fact that Remember Bannockburn flags died a death at Scotland games about the same time as the Home Internationals. Used to be hunners, now you rarely if ever see one.

Edited November 30 by Chuck Berry

[Walter Bishop]

The worst away support this season was at St Johnstone. Sectarian songs, abusing players etc Gorgie ultras weren’t there. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Hmfc1965]

10 hours ago, Star Lizard said:

The independence of the country that people are from is the same as a battle to replace a Catholic King with a Protestant one in a foreign country ? Uhm ………. Its not really likes 

Uhm.... it was part of the war of the three kingdoms that led to a Protestant king being secured for Scotland.

And there was no Catholic King at the time to replace.

[1874Jambo]

12 minutes ago, ramrod said:

Piss off 

They've been one of the only bright lights in an otherwise dreadful season.

 

Really?? I beg to differ 

[Star Lizard]

9 minutes ago, Hmfc1965 said:

Uhm.... it was part of the war of the three kingdoms that led to a Protestant king being secured for Scotland.

And there was no Catholic King at the time to replace.

Being secured . Protestantism is a total sham invented by a fat psychotic inbred with a god complex . Secured  

 

James the second was the last Catholic King of England and Ireland . Splitting heirs to concentrate on the replace part 

 

 

[redjambo]

10 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

Being secured . Protestantism is a total sham invented by a fat psychotic inbred with a god complex . Secured  

 

James the second was the last Catholic King of England and Ireland . Splitting heirs to concentrate on the replace part 

 

 

Very good.

[Star Lizard]

Just now, redjambo said:

 

Very good.

 

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Sadly some people still live in the past. 

Indeed

[Tazio]

2 hours ago, Star Lizard said:

Being secured . Protestantism is a total sham invented by a fat psychotic inbred with a god complex . Secured  

 

James the second was the last Catholic King of England and Ireland . Splitting heirs to concentrate on the replace part 

 

 

That will be the English version of Protestantism. Invented so fattie could get a divorce. The rest of the continent did it for more sound reasons. 

[Cameronstheman]

How many times can some go to the well with the same threads and posts, its changed nothing and unlikely will 

[Morgan]

2 hours ago, Star Lizard said:

Being secured . Protestantism is a total sham invented by a fat psychotic inbred with a god complex . Secured  

 

James the second was the last Catholic King of England and Ireland . Splitting heirs to concentrate on the replace part 

 

 

 

[Hmfc1965]

2 hours ago, Star Lizard said:

Being secured . Protestantism is a total sham invented by a fat psychotic inbred with a god complex . Secured  

 

James the second was the last Catholic King of England and Ireland . Splitting heirs to concentrate on the replace part 

 

 

It really isn't. You're talking about the English version exclusively which is a bit surprising.

I assume you regard yourself as Scottish.

[Gundermann]

Religion...

 

As the guid Proddies of Scotland prepare to celebrate the Catholic/ Pagan festival of Christmas.

 

[Hmfc1965]

1 minute ago, Gundermann said:

Religion...

 

As the guid Proddies of Scotland prepare to celebrate the Catholic/ Pagan festival of Christmas.

 

A modern phenomenon.

[Gundermann]

Just now, Hmfc1965 said:

A modern phenomenon.

 

Indeed. Xmas not a holiday in Scotland until 1958. Most Huns' grandparents wouldn't have a Xmas tree anywhere near the house. Maybe the Pope or the IRA forced them to do it?

[Star Lizard]

10 minutes ago, Hmfc1965 said:

It really isn't. You're talking about the English version exclusively which is a bit surprising.

I assume you regard yourself as Scottish.

its the biggest pile of absolute pish in an ocean of absolute pish . I mean all religion is laughably stupid anyway , but really ? Denominations of denomination  

[Hmfc1965]

1 minute ago, Star Lizard said:

its the biggest pile of absolute pish in an ocean of absolute pish . I mean all religion is laughably stupid anyway , but really ? Denominations of denomination  

Okay then. That's a point of view but it's not as you described it.

[Hmfc1965]

8 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

 

Indeed. Xmas not a holiday in Scotland until 1958. Most Huns' grandparents wouldn't have a Xmas tree anywhere near the house. Maybe the Pope or the IRA forced them to do it?

I think it's probably secularism and commercialism personally but you crack on.

[Ked]

Some of you want to have a word with yourselfs.

Huns this Protestant faiths a sham that .

 

Usual suspects who fekin love it as much as the ones they profess to hate.

Desperate and boring .

 

 

[Star Lizard]

What are the rules around making up ism denominations anyway ? Could I just start being a Catholic and then just completely make up a brand new denomination ? How many times can Judaism even be diluted anyway  

 

[luckyBatistuta]

21 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

its the biggest pile of absolute pish in an ocean of absolute pish . I mean all religion is laughably stupid anyway , but really ? Denominations of denomination  

[Ked]

25 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

What are the rules around making up ism denominations anyway ? Could I just start being a Catholic and then just completely make up a brand new denomination ? How many times can Judaism even be diluted anyway  

 

There are none.

Being able to spraff pish is open to all.

As is evident from your posts on this thread of late.

[Star Lizard]

19 minutes ago, Ked said:

There are none.

Being able to spraff pish is open to all.

As is evident from your posts on this thread of late.

 

[Smithian]

What a dog shit thread.

 

Some young lads trying to have some fun at a footie match and here this thread is talking about religious motivations behind Christmas. 
 

You’re all better than this. I am confident in that. 

[periodictabledancer]

10 minutes ago, Smithian said:

What a dog shit thread.

 

Some young lads trying to have some fun at a footie match and here this thread is talking about religious motivations behind Christmas. 
 

You’re all better than this. I am confident in that. 

This. I met a couple of groups on the way home today  who I assumed are ultras ( all dressed in black)  and they seemed like decent guys just looking to have a good time. 

[GinRummy]

6 hours ago, Smithian said:

What a dog shit thread.

 

Some young lads trying to have some fun at a footie match and here this thread is talking about religious motivations behind Christmas. 
 

You’re all better than this. I am confident in that. 

This. 

[Chuck Berry]

Very poor today, silent, arms folded for long periods. Even after the equaliser when they should be trying to keep the noise going they were doing hee haw. What's the point?

 

The sheep were noisy throughout.