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colinmaroon
6 hours ago, Bull's-eye said:

 

So, back to the damned if they don't, damned if they do position.

 

It really is Shit how the current board have been treated by some supporters over the years.

 

It would be nice if everyone just let the board get on with running the football club and allowed the head coach to be the mouthpiece of the team.

 

Oh well ☹️

 

We can hope, although the interlopers on here will keep their filth going. 

 

 

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From the outside looking in, they’ve somehow managed to get Tony Bloom involved.

 

If nothing else your board deserve enormous credit for that. It’s not a given, and it sounds like Hibs for sure. And no doubt many clubs around Europe would kill to have a link up like this.

 

Seems like the next few windows are really important for Hearts and this partnership, let’s see what transpires.

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6 hours ago, Seagull said:

From the outside looking in, they’ve somehow managed to get Tony Bloom involved.

 

If nothing else your board deserve enormous credit for that. It’s not a given, and it sounds like Hibs for sure. And no doubt many clubs around Europe would kill to have a link up like this.

 

Seems like the next few windows are really important for Hearts and this partnership, let’s see what transpires.


From the inside looking out , we actually have some very successful members on our board . Our Chairwoman and previous owner , is a self made millionaire who coughed up the money to take us out of administration by means of a CVA where secured creditors received a pence in the pound deal for the debts that sunk us . She sold the club back to fans by means of our fan ownership vehicle - The Foundation of Hearts . We were very close to being liquidated . She then went on to complete our stadium by building the fourth replacement stand and upgrading the rest of the facilities massively 

 

Ann Budge then brought in benefactors to help really push our infrastructure in to the 21 st century with restaurants , bars and a hotel all on site , along with a great many hospitality options . One of those benefactors is James Anderson who was formerly one of the brightest stars at Baillie Gifford . He has made people billions in his career and raised a personal fortune of his own in the process , to the extent where he gifts us money each season with no personal return and he even donated close to a hundred million to a university a couple of years ago

 

Anderson made his fortune in the stock markets , rubbing shoulders with people as rich as Musk and others . He was interviewed a few years ago shortly after he became a non executive director and took a seat on our board . He is believed to have asked the question of the rest of the board “ are we thinking big enough “ or words to that effect . The mantra of our board after near extinction was to never risk the existence of the club ever again . A good one imo and they have more than tripled our turnover in ten years . This is where it gets interesting for me though …….

 

The Scottish League system is a cabal . It is set up to ensure the old firm finish first and second each season . This gives them access to European qualification money that keeps them well ahead of the rest . They already have more fans through sectarian and glory hunting mindsets amongst the majority of the West coast of Scotland . They reach far beyond Glasgow with tendrils sucking the life out of every town and city in the country . When our previous owner Romanov arrived and splashed the cash in the early days of his tenure , we finished second and won the Scottish (cup) . This sent alarm bells ringing in the west as at the early stages of that season we were beating the old firm and blowing everyone else away with players like Jankauskas and Scacel and Bednar and Hartley . Who knows where these players would feature nowadays on a system like Starlizard ? If the previous poster is correct about 1 - 8 ratings and our current best player being a 7 , then perhaps Gordon was a 2 and Skacel a 3 ? Pinilla maybe a 2 as well ? These players cost us an absolute fortune , and the club is rightly cautious about finding itself in such a situation ever again . That is perhaps why Anderson has been asked to rein in the ambition previously . However …….. with a fellow visionary like Tony Bloom coming to the table , with a proven system of winning on long odds , then perhaps the board will be more willing to let Anderson pour some money in to the playing side of things ? If the hit rate is going to be higher then his money and Blooms system could prove to be a game changer for us . If they give us access to better players who we get the benefit of on the pitch before selling for big profits , then we can eat in to the resources gap that the old firm enjoy currently . It used to be the case that the Champions League spots and thirty million each season was enough to keep the old firm relevant in European terms , but the money in other European domestic competitions has shot up , especially in England . Now that 30 million does not get Celtic close to even the parachute payments from the English Permier League . As for Rangers , they can not even compete for that 30 million any more and they have started to fall behind Celtic at an alarming rate 

 

Heart of Midlothian are the third biggest club in Scotland by a bit of a distance , but we have pretty much topped out with what we can do organically . We have tripled our turnover and we have completed most of our infrastructure . The only thing missing is the success on the pitch , and that is where this link up comes in . We can not get any closer to beating the old firm by maximising our turnover . We need something different , and I am really really hoping that this is it

 

Perhaps Bloom is getting something out of this too ? Perhaps James Anderson can offer him some investment opportunities and the two of them could make even more money for themselves ? Anderson remains the intriguing factor in this Jamestown link up for me . Depending on his level of involvement , we could really start to “ think big “ again  

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7 hours ago, Seagull said:

From the outside looking in, they’ve somehow managed to get Tony Bloom involved.

 

If nothing else your board deserve enormous credit for that. It’s not a given, and it sounds like Hibs for sure. And no doubt many clubs around Europe would kill to have a link up like this.

 

Seems like the next few windows are really important for Hearts and this partnership, let’s see what transpires.

Exactly. They've found a link up that plenty of clubs in European football wants. Look at hibs, got themselves stuck in a shite pyramid scheme - that's a bad board. Hearts board also rejected an approach from the clowns that bought Hibs, which made them head down the road to buy the shite.

 

The hotel takes a slagging on here because it cost money, short minded individuals that can't see how the profit from that now will go into Hearts. Those same people throwing wobblers every time we get beat off the Old Firm for not competing with them, whilst having a fraction of their revenue. The hotel is not a shitey wee thing on the side of the A1, it's a mile from the city centre in one of the best performing cities for hotels in the UK, with an award winning restaurant upstairs. 

 

Also the fact that the last 3 years have been our most consistent league finishes since something like the 50s. 

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7 hours ago, Seagull said:

From the outside looking in, they’ve somehow managed to get Tony Bloom involved.

 

If nothing else your board deserve enormous credit for that. It’s not a given, and it sounds like Hibs for sure. And no doubt many clubs around Europe would kill to have a link up like this.

 

Seems like the next few windows are really important for Hearts and this partnership, let’s see what transpires.


Since fan ownership some of our fans have taken entitled status to a whole new level. Unfortunately they will never give the board a shred of praise without caveats. Since administration this board have made it clear the future of this club will never be put in jeopardy again. Through good and bad they have not wavered from that. It seems despite nearly losing our club that is not good enough for some fans. Even in the middle of our best league finishes and European league participation 2 out of the last 3 years we have a sack the board thread and every other thread infested with negativity about the board. Our stadium and infrastructure has never been as good. We appear to be on the verge of doing a deal that clubs all over Europe want to be part of. Right now our league position is not acceptable. Our board are trying to address that, still not good enough. Seriously lack of bigger picture thought process is pretty ripe and hibs wallopers keeps the negativity flowing. 

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1 hour ago, Dazo said:


Since fan ownership some of our fans have taken entitled status to a whole new level. Unfortunately they will never give the board a shred of praise without caveats. Since administration this board have made it clear the future of this club will never be put in jeopardy again. Through good and bad they have not wavered from that. It seems despite nearly losing our club that is not good enough for some fans. Even in the middle of our best league finishes and European league participation 2 out of the last 3 years we have a sack the board thread and every other thread infested with negativity about the board. Our stadium and infrastructure has never been as good. We appear to be on the verge of doing a deal that clubs all over Europe want to be part of. Right now our league position is not acceptable. Our board are trying to address that, still not good enough. Seriously lack of bigger picture thought process is pretty ripe and hibs wallopers keeps the negativity flowing. 

 

The football side has been the problem,hopefully that is on the right projection now,looking very positive IMO.

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3 hours ago, Star Lizard said:


From the inside looking out , we actually have some very successful members on our board . Our Chairwoman and previous owner , is a self made millionaire who coughed up the money to take us out of administration by means of a CVA where secured creditors received a pence in the pound deal for the debts that sunk us . She sold the club back to fans by means of our fan ownership vehicle - The Foundation of Hearts . We were very close to being liquidated . She then went on to complete our stadium by building the fourth replacement stand and upgrading the rest of the facilities massively 

 

Ann Budge then brought in benefactors to help really push our infrastructure in to the 21 st century with restaurants , bars and a hotel all on site , along with a great many hospitality options . One of those benefactors is James Anderson who was formerly one of the brightest stars at Baillie Gifford . He has made people billions in his career and raised a personal fortune of his own in the process , to the extent where he gifts us money each season with no personal return and he even donated close to a hundred million to a university a couple of years ago

 

Anderson made his fortune in the stock markets , rubbing shoulders with people as rich as Musk and others . He was interviewed a few years ago shortly after he became a non executive director and took a seat on our board . He is believed to have asked the question of the rest of the board “ are we thinking big enough “ or words to that effect . The mantra of our board after near extinction was to never risk the existence of the club ever again . A good one imo and they have more than tripled our turnover in ten years . This is where it gets interesting for me though …….

 

The Scottish League system is a cabal . It is set up to ensure the old firm finish first and second each season . This gives them access to European qualification money that keeps them well ahead of the rest . They already have more fans through sectarian and glory hunting mindsets amongst the majority of the West coast of Scotland . They reach far beyond Glasgow with tendrils sucking the life out of every town and city in the country . When our previous owner Romanov arrived and splashed the cash in the early days of his tenure , we finished second and won the Scottish (cup) . This sent alarm bells ringing in the west as at the early stages of that season we were beating the old firm and blowing everyone else away with players like Jankauskas and Scacel and Bednar and Hartley . Who knows where these players would feature nowadays on a system like Starlizard ? If the previous poster is correct about 1 - 8 ratings and our current best player being a 7 , then perhaps Gordon was a 2 and Skacel a 3 ? Pinilla maybe a 2 as well ? These players cost us an absolute fortune , and the club is rightly cautious about finding itself in such a situation ever again . That is perhaps why Anderson has been asked to rein in the ambition previously . However …….. with a fellow visionary like Tony Bloom coming to the table , with a proven system of winning on long odds , then perhaps the board will be more willing to let Anderson pour some money in to the playing side of things ? If the hit rate is going to be higher then his money and Blooms system could prove to be a game changer for us . If they give us access to better players who we get the benefit of on the pitch before selling for big profits , then we can eat in to the resources gap that the old firm enjoy currently . It used to be the case that the Champions League spots and thirty million each season was enough to keep the old firm relevant in European terms , but the money in other European domestic competitions has shot up , especially in England . Now that 30 million does not get Celtic close to even the parachute payments from the English Permier League . As for Rangers , they can not even compete for that 30 million any more and they have started to fall behind Celtic at an alarming rate 

 

Heart of Midlothian are the third biggest club in Scotland by a bit of a distance , but we have pretty much topped out with what we can do organically . We have tripled our turnover and we have completed most of our infrastructure . The only thing missing is the success on the pitch , and that is where this link up comes in . We can not get any closer to beating the old firm by maximising our turnover . We need something different , and I am really really hoping that this is it

 

Perhaps Bloom is getting something out of this too ? Perhaps James Anderson can offer him some investment opportunities and the two of them could make even more money for themselves ? Anderson remains the intriguing factor in this Jamestown link up for me . Depending on his level of involvement , we could really start to “ think big “ again  

Good post very interesting read.

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4 hours ago, Star Lizard said:


From the inside looking out , we actually have some very successful members on our board . Our Chairwoman and previous owner , is a self made millionaire who coughed up the money to take us out of administration by means of a CVA where secured creditors received a pence in the pound deal for the debts that sunk us . She sold the club back to fans by means of our fan ownership vehicle - The Foundation of Hearts . We were very close to being liquidated . She then went on to complete our stadium by building the fourth replacement stand and upgrading the rest of the facilities massively 

 

Ann Budge then brought in benefactors to help really push our infrastructure in to the 21 st century with restaurants , bars and a hotel all on site , along with a great many hospitality options . One of those benefactors is James Anderson who was formerly one of the brightest stars at Baillie Gifford . He has made people billions in his career and raised a personal fortune of his own in the process , to the extent where he gifts us money each season with no personal return and he even donated close to a hundred million to a university a couple of years ago

 

Anderson made his fortune in the stock markets , rubbing shoulders with people as rich as Musk and others . He was interviewed a few years ago shortly after he became a non executive director and took a seat on our board . He is believed to have asked the question of the rest of the board “ are we thinking big enough “ or words to that effect . The mantra of our board after near extinction was to never risk the existence of the club ever again . A good one imo and they have more than tripled our turnover in ten years . This is where it gets interesting for me though …….

 

The Scottish League system is a cabal . It is set up to ensure the old firm finish first and second each season . This gives them access to European qualification money that keeps them well ahead of the rest . They already have more fans through sectarian and glory hunting mindsets amongst the majority of the West coast of Scotland . They reach far beyond Glasgow with tendrils sucking the life out of every town and city in the country . When our previous owner Romanov arrived and splashed the cash in the early days of his tenure , we finished second and won the Scottish (cup) . This sent alarm bells ringing in the west as at the early stages of that season we were beating the old firm and blowing everyone else away with players like Jankauskas and Scacel and Bednar and Hartley . Who knows where these players would feature nowadays on a system like Starlizard ? If the previous poster is correct about 1 - 8 ratings and our current best player being a 7 , then perhaps Gordon was a 2 and Skacel a 3 ? Pinilla maybe a 2 as well ? These players cost us an absolute fortune , and the club is rightly cautious about finding itself in such a situation ever again . That is perhaps why Anderson has been asked to rein in the ambition previously . However …….. with a fellow visionary like Tony Bloom coming to the table , with a proven system of winning on long odds , then perhaps the board will be more willing to let Anderson pour some money in to the playing side of things ? If the hit rate is going to be higher then his money and Blooms system could prove to be a game changer for us . If they give us access to better players who we get the benefit of on the pitch before selling for big profits , then we can eat in to the resources gap that the old firm enjoy currently . It used to be the case that the Champions League spots and thirty million each season was enough to keep the old firm relevant in European terms , but the money in other European domestic competitions has shot up , especially in England . Now that 30 million does not get Celtic close to even the parachute payments from the English Permier League . As for Rangers , they can not even compete for that 30 million any more and they have started to fall behind Celtic at an alarming rate 

 

Heart of Midlothian are the third biggest club in Scotland by a bit of a distance , but we have pretty much topped out with what we can do organically . We have tripled our turnover and we have completed most of our infrastructure . The only thing missing is the success on the pitch , and that is where this link up comes in . We can not get any closer to beating the old firm by maximising our turnover . We need something different , and I am really really hoping that this is it

 

Perhaps Bloom is getting something out of this too ? Perhaps James Anderson can offer him some investment opportunities and the two of them could make even more money for themselves ? Anderson remains the intriguing factor in this Jamestown link up for me . Depending on his level of involvement , we could really start to “ think big “ again  

Excellent post. 

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Nerja Jambo
11 hours ago, colinmaroon said:

 

We can hope, although the interlopers on here will keep their filth going. 

 

 

To be critical of the board you do not have to be an interloper or a Hibby. That's a very childish view. It may be different from yours but it is equally as valid. 

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3 hours ago, Dazo said:


Since fan ownership some of our fans have taken entitled status to a whole new level. Unfortunately they will never give the board a shred of praise without caveats. Since administration this board have made it clear the future of this club will never be put in jeopardy again. Through good and bad they have not wavered from that. It seems despite nearly losing our club that is not good enough for some fans. Even in the middle of our best league finishes and European league participation 2 out of the last 3 years we have a sack the board thread and every other thread infested with negativity about the board. Our stadium and infrastructure has never been as good. We appear to be on the verge of doing a deal that clubs all over Europe want to be part of. Right now our league position is not acceptable. Our board are trying to address that, still not good enough. Seriously lack of bigger picture thought process is pretty ripe and hibs wallopers keeps the negativity flowing. 

The only criticism I have with the Board has been a succession of poor and costly football decisions, which have cost the club money ( who knows how much ). They cannot be absolved from that. The non football side of the club, they have done a fantastic job and deserve all the credit for that, but being willing to accept the praise for the good stuff, they have to be prepared to take the flack for the bad stuff. Thankfully with the appointment of Critchley and Garrity plus possibly another from out with the club, they have finally learned from previous mistakes and they must take the credit for that.  

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4 hours ago, Star Lizard said:


From the inside looking out , we actually have some very successful members on our board . Our Chairwoman and previous owner , is a self made millionaire who coughed up the money to take us out of administration by means of a CVA where secured creditors received a pence in the pound deal for the debts that sunk us . She sold the club back to fans by means of our fan ownership vehicle - The Foundation of Hearts . We were very close to being liquidated . She then went on to complete our stadium by building the fourth replacement stand and upgrading the rest of the facilities massively 

 

Ann Budge then brought in benefactors to help really push our infrastructure in to the 21 st century with restaurants , bars and a hotel all on site , along with a great many hospitality options . One of those benefactors is James Anderson who was formerly one of the brightest stars at Baillie Gifford . He has made people billions in his career and raised a personal fortune of his own in the process , to the extent where he gifts us money each season with no personal return and he even donated close to a hundred million to a university a couple of years ago

 

Anderson made his fortune in the stock markets , rubbing shoulders with people as rich as Musk and others . He was interviewed a few years ago shortly after he became a non executive director and took a seat on our board . He is believed to have asked the question of the rest of the board “ are we thinking big enough “ or words to that effect . The mantra of our board after near extinction was to never risk the existence of the club ever again . A good one imo and they have more than tripled our turnover in ten years . This is where it gets interesting for me though …….

 

The Scottish League system is a cabal . It is set up to ensure the old firm finish first and second each season . This gives them access to European qualification money that keeps them well ahead of the rest . They already have more fans through sectarian and glory hunting mindsets amongst the majority of the West coast of Scotland . They reach far beyond Glasgow with tendrils sucking the life out of every town and city in the country . When our previous owner Romanov arrived and splashed the cash in the early days of his tenure , we finished second and won the Scottish (cup) . This sent alarm bells ringing in the west as at the early stages of that season we were beating the old firm and blowing everyone else away with players like Jankauskas and Scacel and Bednar and Hartley . Who knows where these players would feature nowadays on a system like Starlizard ? If the previous poster is correct about 1 - 8 ratings and our current best player being a 7 , then perhaps Gordon was a 2 and Skacel a 3 ? Pinilla maybe a 2 as well ? These players cost us an absolute fortune , and the club is rightly cautious about finding itself in such a situation ever again . That is perhaps why Anderson has been asked to rein in the ambition previously . However …….. with a fellow visionary like Tony Bloom coming to the table , with a proven system of winning on long odds , then perhaps the board will be more willing to let Anderson pour some money in to the playing side of things ? If the hit rate is going to be higher then his money and Blooms system could prove to be a game changer for us . If they give us access to better players who we get the benefit of on the pitch before selling for big profits , then we can eat in to the resources gap that the old firm enjoy currently . It used to be the case that the Champions League spots and thirty million each season was enough to keep the old firm relevant in European terms , but the money in other European domestic competitions has shot up , especially in England . Now that 30 million does not get Celtic close to even the parachute payments from the English Permier League . As for Rangers , they can not even compete for that 30 million any more and they have started to fall behind Celtic at an alarming rate 

 

Heart of Midlothian are the third biggest club in Scotland by a bit of a distance , but we have pretty much topped out with what we can do organically . We have tripled our turnover and we have completed most of our infrastructure . The only thing missing is the success on the pitch , and that is where this link up comes in . We can not get any closer to beating the old firm by maximising our turnover . We need something different , and I am really really hoping that this is it

 

Perhaps Bloom is getting something out of this too ? Perhaps James Anderson can offer him some investment opportunities and the two of them could make even more money for themselves ? Anderson remains the intriguing factor in this Jamestown link up for me . Depending on his level of involvement , we could really start to “ think big “ again  


 

Good post and good context for those who doubt the board. 
 

I am frustrated at the missteps by the club on the football front, but hopefully Bloom is the missing piece of the puzzle. 
 

The outrageously good work done off field by Budge, Anderson et al combined with the benefactor and FOH cash injections and the 3rd biggest support in Scottish football has all been somewhat stunted by poor recruitment. With Bloom and Jamestown Analytics involved, hopefully we can leverage the financial advantage and really pull away from Aberdeen and the rest in the next couple of seasons. 
 

Only then can we really start looking up at the Old Firm. 

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3 hours ago, Dazo said:


Since fan ownership some of our fans have taken entitled status to a whole new level. Unfortunately they will never give the board a shred of praise without caveats. Since administration this board have made it clear the future of this club will never be put in jeopardy again. Through good and bad they have not wavered from that. It seems despite nearly losing our club that is not good enough for some fans. Even in the middle of our best league finishes and European league participation 2 out of the last 3 years we have a sack the board thread and every other thread infested with negativity about the board. Our stadium and infrastructure has never been as good. We appear to be on the verge of doing a deal that clubs all over Europe want to be part of. Right now our league position is not acceptable. Our board are trying to address that, still not good enough. Seriously lack of bigger picture thought process is pretty ripe and hibs wallopers keeps the negativity flowing. 

All valid points.

 

There is no doubt that we have never been better run at board level.

 

However, I think the main issue is that for all our off field, stability, the frustration comes from the fact that our progression hasn't been linear and has often been a case of two steps forward one step back... Or 3 steps back in 2019/2020.

 

We've seen many tantalising glimpses of just how great HMFC could be, followed by inexplicable regression.

 

Whilst initially disappointed about the appointment of Neil Critchley, I'm starting to come around to the thought  that although he may not be the man we wanted, he might be the man we need... Basically an on field projection of our board, slightly dull, but knowledgable, consistent, effective and successful.

 

 

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1 minute ago, David McCaig said:

All valid points.

 

There is no doubt that we have never been better run at board level.

 

However, I think the main issue is that for all our off field, stability, the frustration comes from the fact that our progression hasn't been linear and has often been a case of two steps forward one step back... Or 3 steps back in 2019/2020.

 

We've seen many tantalising glimpses of just how great HMFC could be, followed by inexplicable regression.

 

Whilst initially disappointed about the appointment of Neil Critchley, I'm starting to come around to the thought  that although he may not be the man we wanted, he might be the man we need... Basically an on field projection of our board, slightly dull, but knowledgable, consistent, effective and successful.

 

 


Aye it’s probably a fair point but it’s tough getting everything right all the time. As fans we look at things through a very narrow lens, if we’re winning not a lot else matters. There has definitely been a misalignment between the on and off field progress. Looking back over our history though it really isn’t a million miles away and ****ing light years away from what people make out. Hopefully we can now really kick on and the football side starts to show faster progress. On the face of it the board seem to be trying to do this. 

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47 minutes ago, Nerja Jambo said:

To be critical of the board you do not have to be an interloper or a Hibby. That's a very childish view. It may be different from yours but it is equally as valid. 

Very true, however that said in some cases there’s a direct correlation between those who rant and rave about the Board and those who bang their drum  encouraging folk to stop their donations to the FoH. There’s no doubt there’s a whiff about them.

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4 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Aye it’s probably a fair point but it’s tough getting everything right all the time. As fans we look at things through a very narrow lens, if we’re winning not a lot else matters. There has definitely been a misalignment between the on and off field progress. Looking back over our history though it really isn’t a million miles away and ****ing light years away from what people make out. Hopefully we can now really kick on and the football side starts to show faster progress. On the face of it the board seem to be trying to do this. 

Whilst the League position clearly suggests otherwise, I genuinely believe we have the third best squad in the country, therefore quietly competent is probably exactly what we need to meet our minimum expectations... The challenge is then whether NC can grow into the role and shown the innovation in partnership with our analytical partners to close the gap on the OF.

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1 minute ago, Deevers said:

Very true, however that said in some cases there’s a direct correlation between those who rant and rave about the Board and those who bang their drum  encouraging folk to stop their donations to the FoH. There’s no doubt there’s a whiff about them.

Has anyone actually encouraged others to stop their donations. I stopped mine but did not need any encouragement to do so, only sheer frustration .

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5 hours ago, Star Lizard said:


From the inside looking out , we actually have some very successful members on our board . Our Chairwoman and previous owner , is a self made millionaire who coughed up the money to take us out of administration by means of a CVA where secured creditors received a pence in the pound deal for the debts that sunk us . She sold the club back to fans by means of our fan ownership vehicle - The Foundation of Hearts . We were very close to being liquidated . She then went on to complete our stadium by building the fourth replacement stand and upgrading the rest of the facilities massively 

 

Ann Budge then brought in benefactors to help really push our infrastructure in to the 21 st century with restaurants , bars and a hotel all on site , along with a great many hospitality options . One of those benefactors is James Anderson who was formerly one of the brightest stars at Baillie Gifford . He has made people billions in his career and raised a personal fortune of his own in the process , to the extent where he gifts us money each season with no personal return and he even donated close to a hundred million to a university a couple of years ago

 

Anderson made his fortune in the stock markets , rubbing shoulders with people as rich as Musk and others . He was interviewed a few years ago shortly after he became a non executive director and took a seat on our board . He is believed to have asked the question of the rest of the board “ are we thinking big enough “ or words to that effect . The mantra of our board after near extinction was to never risk the existence of the club ever again . A good one imo and they have more than tripled our turnover in ten years . This is where it gets interesting for me though …….

 

The Scottish League system is a cabal . It is set up to ensure the old firm finish first and second each season . This gives them access to European qualification money that keeps them well ahead of the rest . They already have more fans through sectarian and glory hunting mindsets amongst the majority of the West coast of Scotland . They reach far beyond Glasgow with tendrils sucking the life out of every town and city in the country . When our previous owner Romanov arrived and splashed the cash in the early days of his tenure , we finished second and won the Scottish (cup) . This sent alarm bells ringing in the west as at the early stages of that season we were beating the old firm and blowing everyone else away with players like Jankauskas and Scacel and Bednar and Hartley . Who knows where these players would feature nowadays on a system like Starlizard ? If the previous poster is correct about 1 - 8 ratings and our current best player being a 7 , then perhaps Gordon was a 2 and Skacel a 3 ? Pinilla maybe a 2 as well ? These players cost us an absolute fortune , and the club is rightly cautious about finding itself in such a situation ever again . That is perhaps why Anderson has been asked to rein in the ambition previously . However …….. with a fellow visionary like Tony Bloom coming to the table , with a proven system of winning on long odds , then perhaps the board will be more willing to let Anderson pour some money in to the playing side of things ? If the hit rate is going to be higher then his money and Blooms system could prove to be a game changer for us . If they give us access to better players who we get the benefit of on the pitch before selling for big profits , then we can eat in to the resources gap that the old firm enjoy currently . It used to be the case that the Champions League spots and thirty million each season was enough to keep the old firm relevant in European terms , but the money in other European domestic competitions has shot up , especially in England . Now that 30 million does not get Celtic close to even the parachute payments from the English Permier League . As for Rangers , they can not even compete for that 30 million any more and they have started to fall behind Celtic at an alarming rate 

 

Heart of Midlothian are the third biggest club in Scotland by a bit of a distance , but we have pretty much topped out with what we can do organically . We have tripled our turnover and we have completed most of our infrastructure . The only thing missing is the success on the pitch , and that is where this link up comes in . We can not get any closer to beating the old firm by maximising our turnover . We need something different , and I am really really hoping that this is it

 

Perhaps Bloom is getting something out of this too ? Perhaps James Anderson can offer him some investment opportunities and the two of them could make even more money for themselves ? Anderson remains the intriguing factor in this Jamestown link up for me . Depending on his level of involvement , we could really start to “ think big “ again  

This is excellent insightful speculation!

 

I’m increasingly beginning to believe that James Anderson is the ‘power behind the throne’ driven by his ambition, finance & connections!

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17 minutes ago, Nerja Jambo said:

Has anyone actually encouraged others to stop their donations. I stopped mine but did not need any encouragement to do so, only sheer frustration .

Yes, a few.

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colinmaroon
8 hours ago, Nerja Jambo said:

To be critical of the board you do not have to be an interloper or a Hibby. That's a very childish view. It may be different from yours but it is equally as valid. 

 

Where did I say if you make a critical statement of the board you are a hibby.  I made a simple statement of objective truth, there a are interlopers and hibbys on this board.  Fact!!!

 

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Sasha Shulgin

They’re playing a dangerous game.

 

Appointing a manager and signing players based on the analytics is all well

and good.

 

Should this approach have us facing relegation, then it’ll be the board in the firing line.

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kingantti1874
12 minutes ago, Sasha Shulgin said:

They’re playing a dangerous game.

 

Appointing a manager and signing players based on the analytics is all well

and good.

 

Should this approach have us facing relegation, then it’ll be the board in the firing line.


🤣 we’ve not really started using it yet. 

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Percival King
37 minutes ago, Sasha Shulgin said:

They’re playing a dangerous game.

 

Appointing a manager and signing players based on the analytics is all well

and good.

 

Should this approach have us facing relegation, then it’ll be the board in the firing line.

We're bottom of the league because of our pre-Critchley results and we probably won't have any analytics influenced signings until January, half way through the season. Arguably, because of our terrible start to the season, the club had to try something different and maybe using analytics is that something different. Regardless, if a club of our size got relegated over a 38 game season, the board should expect a lot of heat on them.

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No matter the outcome of this season there needs to be major changes at board level. 

 

The decision makers have shown they have little to no idea what they are doing regarding the footballing side of the club. 

 

Wrong or bad decision time after time.

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Sasha Shulgin
37 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:


🤣 we’ve not really started using it yet. 


As you well know, given your numerous tantrums on the matter, we used it to hire a manager sacked by Blackpool and QPR.

 

 

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Percival King
5 minutes ago, Mirror said:

No matter the outcome of this season there needs to be major changes at board level. 

 

The decision makers have shown they have little to no idea what they are doing regarding the footballing side of the club. 

 

Wrong or bad decision time after time.

So if the Critchley appointment turns out to be a success, most of the players signed in the summer deliver, we make good signings in January who also deliver then we need to make major changes to the board? Even if we win the Scottish Cup?

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2 minutes ago, Sasha Shulgin said:

As you well know, given your numerous tantrums on the matter, we used it to hire a manager sacked by Blackpool and QPR.

 

And now it is your turn to have tantrums? :laugh:

 

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RustyRightPeg
13 minutes ago, Sasha Shulgin said:


As you well know, given your numerous tantrums on the matter, we used it to hire a manager sacked by Blackpool and QPR.

 

 


You’re 3 weeks late with this pish mate. 

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Nucky Thompson
1 hour ago, Sasha Shulgin said:

They’re playing a dangerous game.

 

Appointing a manager and signing players based on the analytics is all well

and good.

 

Should this approach have us facing relegation, then it’ll be the board in the firing line.

We'll still finish miles above your mob.

We're the luckiest team in the World to have Hibs as our rivals :lol:

 

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Italian Lambretta
1 hour ago, Sasha Shulgin said:

They’re playing a dangerous game.

 

Appointing a manager and signing players based on the analytics is all well

and good.

 

Should this approach have us facing relegation, then it’ll be the board in the firing line.

Maybe it's time for the players to take some responsibility.

The charlatans are getting paid enough.

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Jim Panzee
12 minutes ago, Percival King said:

So if the Critchley appointment turns out to be a success, most of the players signed in the summer deliver, we make good signings in January who also deliver then we need to make major changes to the board? Even if we win the Scottish Cup?

I must've dreamt last season where we strolled to third at a canter and the resultant european games and wins must be in my imagination....... 

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RustyRightPeg
1 minute ago, Italian Lambretta said:

Maybe it's time for the players to take some responsibility.

The charlatans are getting paid enough.


Correct. Some of these players have outlasted 3 managers now. 
 

Similarities to Rangers are uncanny. Players thinking we’ll be here longer than you. 
 

Root the dressing room cancers out and start over. 

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HopeDiouf
4 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:


Correct. Some of these players have outlasted 3 managers now. 
 

Similarities to Rangers are uncanny. Players thinking we’ll be here longer than you. 
 

Root the dressing room cancers out and start over. 

Does seem pretty clear now there are real issues with the players.

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Bull's-eye

After every point dropped we really should have a new "board oot" thread.

 

Highlights the vermin filth exceptionally well.

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gar jambo
On 17/10/2024 at 12:37, Dazo said:


Aye it’s probably a fair point but it’s tough getting everything right all the time. As fans we look at things through a very narrow lens, if we’re winning not a lot else matters. There has definitely been a misalignment between the on and off field progress. Looking back over our history though it really isn’t a million miles away and ****ing light years away from what people make out. Hopefully we can now really kick on and the football side starts to show faster progress. On the face of it the board seem to be trying to do this. 

Yes but over 15 years the product on the park is up and down  Abysmal I would say ! Hearts seem to get  in a great position then boom here’s what you could have had and then regress it’s in our DNA 

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We keep hearing that anyone incoming has to work within our structure. Given we are bottom of the league maybe the structure is the problem

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5 hours ago, Sherbet said:

We keep hearing that anyone incoming has to work within our structure. Given we are bottom of the league maybe the structure is the problem

Yes, let's give the Board a round of applause for their exemplary footballing decisions. The Board wouldn't know what a decent football club structure looks like. All for bringing on Bloom, but the board simply can't be blameless for Hearts falling to the bottom time & again. There is a definite lacking there.

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14 minutes ago, hmfc1440 said:

Yes, let's give the Board a round of applause for their exemplary footballing decisions. The Board wouldn't know what a decent football club structure looks like. All for bringing on Bloom, but the board simply can't be blameless for Hearts falling to the bottom time & again. There is a definite lacking there.

At least they are consistent

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Jambo in Bathgate
On 17/10/2024 at 07:42, Dazo said:


Since fan ownership some of our fans have taken entitled status to a whole new level. Unfortunately they will never give the board a shred of praise without caveats. Since administration this board have made it clear the future of this club will never be put in jeopardy again. Through good and bad they have not wavered from that. It seems despite nearly losing our club that is not good enough for some fans. Even in the middle of our best league finishes and European league participation 2 out of the last 3 years we have a sack the board thread and every other thread infested with negativity about the board. Our stadium and infrastructure has never been as good. We appear to be on the verge of doing a deal that clubs all over Europe want to be part of. Right now our league position is not acceptable. Our board are trying to address that, still not good enough. Seriously lack of bigger picture thought process is pretty ripe and hibs wallopers keeps the negativity flowing. 

In lies the problem with fan ownership!  The danger of the FOH board being in conflict with the Club board. It’s important that people think carefully about the FOH election this year. We don’t want our dirty washing aired in full view of interlopers or the MSM. 
That would be disastrous for our club as there would be a breakdown in trust with our investors and benefactors. 

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Nerja Jambo

There would never be conflict between the FoH board and HMFC board if there was only one board. 

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Jambo in Bathgate
2 hours ago, Nerja Jambo said:

There would never be conflict between the FoH board and HMFC board if there was only one board. 

Yes but that won’t be the case unless we sold our majority share. Fans running a club has not gone well at other such fan owned ventures! 

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Nerja Jambo
3 hours ago, Jambo in Bathgate said:

Yes but that won’t be the case unless we sold our majority share. Fans running a club has not gone well at other such fan owned ventures! 

Tell that to the Germans and the Spanish. They seem to be doing ok. Also why would we have to sell our majority share? That just doesn't make sense.

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gordon simpson
1 hour ago, Nerja Jambo said:

Tell that to the Germans and the Spanish. They seem to be doing ok. Also why would we have to sell our majority share? That just doesn't make sense.

not much on kickback makes sense 

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15 hours ago, Sasha Shulgin said:

They’re playing a dangerous game.

 

Appointing a manager and signing players based on the analytics is all well

and good.

 

Should this approach have us facing relegation, then it’ll be the board in the firing line.

 

It's a pre analytic approach squad and coaching team that has us facing relegation.

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Pasquale for King
1 hour ago, Nerja Jambo said:

Tell that to the Germans and the Spanish. They seem to be doing ok. Also why would we have to sell our majority share? That just doesn't make sense.

Indeed 

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davemclaren
3 hours ago, Nerja Jambo said:

Tell that to the Germans and the Spanish. They seem to be doing ok. Also why would we have to sell our majority share? That just doesn't make sense.

German clubs have mute them one company and buses involved in running clubs as well. 

 

9 hours ago, Nerja Jambo said:

There would never be conflict between the FoH board and HMFC board if there was only one board. 

German football clubs have more than one entity and board involved in the ownership structure. 

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